lamao hl2 runs at 30fps on the 360

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#1 machitocaliente
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from neogaf

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177407

what a disgrace... even with HDR and shadows is just a 2004 game... and the xboxis strugling to run it

btw. i played episode 1 with a ocd 6600GT + amd 64 3000 + 1gb

1024 x 768 All detail settings set to the highest ( HDR, Reflect all, 4xAA)

constant 65 / 85 FPS

lol 360 lol

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#2 Hani_Essa
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I have lost faith in all humanity due to your post.
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#3 smokeydabear076
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LOl it runs at 200-300 fps on my PC.
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#4 Dreams-Visions
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LOl it runs at 200-300 fps on my PC.smokeydabear076
same.
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#5 solidsnakeEx3
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I'm pretty sure 4x AA isn't the highest setting you can go to :o
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#6 Hoobinator
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Port from the PC to simultaneous PS3 and 360 platforms. Though I did expect a constant 60fps.
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#7 wolverine4262
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Doesnt the 360 version get all of the enhacements that ep 2 brings in graphics department? I mean Hl2, and ep1 will look better than their original release.... IDK
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#8 skixwolf
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im confused, where's the link to a reliable source?
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#9 Dreams-Visions
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Port from the PC to simultaneous PS3 and 360 platforms. Though I did expect a constant 60fps.Hoobinator
I think 60fps is a pretty low expectation for a 3 year-old game. 60fps is the bare minimum.
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from neogaf

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177407

what a disgrace... even with HDR and shadows is just a 2004 game... and the xboxis strugling to run it

btw. i played episode 1 with a ocd 6600GT + amd 64 3000 + 1gb

1024 x 768 All detail settings set to the highest ( HDR, Reflect all, 4xAA)

constant 65 / 85 FPS

lol 360 lol

machitocaliente

Id say thats the developers fault not the 360's. The 360 can obviously run stuff better than HL2 so it shouldnt have a problem running it at all.

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#11 ginglejangle
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I guess ill get this for ps3 then.
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#12 beardtm
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im confused, where's the link to a reliable source?skixwolf
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#13 MikeE21286
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]LOl it runs at 200-300 fps on my PC.Dreams-Visions
same.

That's pretty freakin bad for the consoles :? BTW, how do you check how many FPS you are currently running the game at?

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[QUOTE="Hoobinator"]Port from the PC to simultaneous PS3 and 360 platforms. Though I did expect a constant 60fps.Dreams-Visions
I think 60fps is a pretty low expectation for a 3 year-old game. 60fps is the bare minimum.

Especially for a FPS game.
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#15 topgunmv
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Sounds like a horrific port like quake4to me. Didn't they already port hl2 to the original xbox?
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#16 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]LOl it runs at 200-300 fps on my PC.MikeE21286

same.

That's pretty freakin bad for the consoles :? BTW, how do you check how many FPS you are currently running the game at?

~ net_graph 3 that is one way.
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#17 dd99
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I think 60fps is a pretty low expectation for a 3 year-old game. 60fps is the bare minimum.
Dreams-Visions

actually 60fps is max, as a tv (HD lcd crt whatever u want) only refreshes 60times a second, so any more fps will not actually be visible

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#18 Verge_6
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Of course there is NO chance that it's the devs fault and that they merely didn't port it the best they could. :roll:
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#19 MikeE21286
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Of course there is NO chance that it's the devs fault and that they merely didn't port it the best they could. :roll:Verge_6

They probably didn't your right, just sucks for those who can only play it on consoles. It'll be the same deal for PS3 users also.

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#20 JiveT
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Wow after wasting precious minutes of my life reading through the neogaf posts looking for what the TC is babbling about I still have no clue. There is no confirmation either way what the frame rate is but if its locked at 30FPS with nifty new effects the original game did not have then that's good enough for a single player FPS experience. 60FPS is always nice but its not crucial unless you are serious about multiplayer.
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#21 Sooshy
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As long as it's rock solid and doesn't dip, then I'm happy.
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#22 Verge_6
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What's so bad about 30fps anyways? Wasn't that the norm last-gen?
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#23 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]I think 60fps is a pretty low expectation for a 3 year-old game. 60fps is the bare minimum.
dd99

actually 60fps is max, as a tv (HD lcd crt whatever u want) only refreshes 60times a second, so any more fps will not actually be visible

that's fine, but that's not the max the hardware should be able to generate. maybe that's the max you'll be able to see, but there's no reason in hell the hardware should not be able to pump out 60fps MINIMUM.

...and lets not forget many people play on PC monitors. bottom line: for this hardware, anything less than 60fps for a 3 year old game is simply unacceptable.

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#24 Dreams-Visions
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What's so bad about 30fps anyways? Wasn't that the norm last-gen?Verge_6
we must expect more from a 2004 game on superior hardware. simple as that.
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#25 joe_g_patton
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wtf Is "lamao"? I recommend acronym 101 for TC.
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]What's so bad about 30fps anyways? Wasn't that the norm last-gen?Dreams-Visions
we must expect more from a 2004 game on superior hardware. simple as that.

True, but if it doesn't run at a constant 60fps, does that really kill the game?

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#27 Hoobinator
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I reckon they probably concentrated more on HL: Episode 3, Portal and Team Fortress and thought they'll do a port job at the last minute, with the power they've got they'll just do a rush job. :(
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#28 machitocaliente
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LOl it runs at 200-300 fps on my PC.smokeydabear076

my current pc run it faster. e6600 / 2GB/ 8800GTS btw

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#29 killermoe_617
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When is the Orange Box coming out for the Xbox 360?
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#30 MIYAMOTOnext007
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:lol: Even with Fakefatory's graphical mod at 1600x1200 with 4xAA I pull of an average of about 60fps. And fakefactorys looks better than the360 version of HL2.
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#31 BioShockOwnz
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I'm fine with 30fps. :|
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#32 hazuki87
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Yeah well, its to bad it wont play smoothly, but its also not a big deal considering the game will be playing ocmparable to the highest PC settings. also for Dreams-Visions 60fps being a bare minimum is a kind of strange thing to say considering you cant even nnotice a difference in fps after a certain point, and that certain point is less than 60 fps.

its like when Sony talked about 180 fps... it sounds cool but means nothing.

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#33 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]LOl it runs at 200-300 fps on my PC.machitocaliente

my current pc run it faster. e6600 / 2GB/ 8800GTS btw

I have the same general specs, I am just stating a general range.
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]What's so bad about 30fps anyways? Wasn't that the norm last-gen?Verge_6

we must expect more from a 2004 game on superior hardware. simple as that.

True, but if it doesn't run at a constant 60fps, does that really kill the game?

No. But it's the principle. if my 1.5 year old laptop with a 256MB graphics card in it can push 100+fps, why should we not expect 60+fps from a 512MB system designed for and asked to do nothing but run games?

It's the principle.

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#35 CJL13
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Will this affect the PS3 version as well?
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#36 Dreams-Visions
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I'm fine with 30fps. :|BioShockOwnz
Yes, but for a 2004 title, you shouldn't be.
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#37 Heil68
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ok, now what?
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#38 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]What's so bad about 30fps anyways? Wasn't that the norm last-gen?Dreams-Visions

we must expect more from a 2004 game on superior hardware. simple as that.

True, but if it doesn't run at a constant 60fps, does that really kill the game?

No. But it's the principle. if my 1.5 year old laptop with a 256MB graphics card in it can push 100+fps, why should we not expect 60+fps from a 512MB system designed for and asked to do nothing but run games?

It's the principle.

It's not the hardware's fault that the devs weren't able to pull off a perfect port...

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Yeah well, its to bad it wont play smoothly, but its also not a big deal considering the game will be playing ocmparable to the highest PC settings. also for Dreams-Visions 60fps being a bare minimum is a kind of strange thing to say considering you cant even nnotice a difference in fps after a certain point, and that certain point is less than 60 fps.

its like when Sony talked about 180 fps... it sounds cool but means nothing.

hazuki87

You people keep missing the point. You're fine with 30fps, that's great and dandy. But PC's with much lesser hardware than that of the 360 are maxxing the game out with a higher framerate. That's the point, which is quite sad actually.

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ok, now what?Heil68
good question. point and laugh? in the end, we know superior looking games like CoD4, Mass Effect, Halo 3, Bioshock and others are on their way...so it's not like people can suppose that it's a hardware problem. It's lazy development.
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]I'm fine with 30fps. :|Dreams-Visions
Yes, but for a 2004 title, you shouldn't be.

I'm a PC gamer, and even I don't care. I have come to expect console games to run at 30-60fps, and I'm completely fine with that.

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]What's so bad about 30fps anyways? Wasn't that the norm last-gen?Verge_6

we must expect more from a 2004 game on superior hardware. simple as that.

True, but if it doesn't run at a constant 60fps, does that really kill the game?

No. But it's the principle. if my 1.5 year old laptop with a 256MB graphics card in it can push 100+fps, why should we not expect 60+fps from a 512MB system designed for and asked to do nothing but run games?

It's the principle.

It's not the hardware's fault that the devs weren't able to pull off a perfect port...

agreed. shoot the devs. or better yet: send a message by NOT buying the game.

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[QUOTE="machitocaliente"]

from neogaf

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177407

what a disgrace... even with HDR and shadows is just a 2004 game... and the xboxis strugling to run it

btw. i played episode 1 with a ocd 6600GT + amd 64 3000 + 1gb

1024 x 768 All detail settings set to the highest ( HDR, Reflect all, 4xAA)

constant 65 / 85 FPS

lol 360 lol

justforlotr2004

Id say thats the developers fault not the 360's. The 360 can obviously run stuff better than HL2 so it shouldnt have a problem running it at all.

denial. what is mor plausible? all the devs are incompetent / teir fault or the 360 is just not that good?

i think the 360 is and unbalanced console. capable of good graphics if the world has the size of a peanut, and the enemy's have the ai of hl1.

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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="machitocaliente"]

from neogaf

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177407

what a disgrace... even with HDR and shadows is just a 2004 game... and the xboxis strugling to run it

btw. i played episode 1 with a ocd 6600GT + amd 64 3000 + 1gb

1024 x 768 All detail settings set to the highest ( HDR, Reflect all, 4xAA)

constant 65 / 85 FPS

lol 360 lol

machitocaliente

Id say thats the developers fault not the 360's. The 360 can obviously run stuff better than HL2 so it shouldnt have a problem running it at all.

denial. what is mor plausible? all the devs are incompetent / teir fault or the 360 is just not that good?

i think the 360 is and unbalanced console. capable of good graphics if the world has the size of a peanut, and the enemy's have the ai of hl1.

...You know absolutely NOTHING about what you're spouting, do you?

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Hi,

Orange Box is scheduled to DROP on 10/9/2k7 for the 360. It will probably get delayed eleventy-billion times....or not. I'm guessing that this 30FPS stuff is a bunch of CRAP!!!! Why are we discussing this nonsense? Also, if you have a decent pc, then do not buy Orange Box for a console. Buy it on STEAM, GOSH!!!!

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[QUOTE="machitocaliente"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="machitocaliente"]

from neogaf

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177407

what a disgrace... even with HDR and shadows is just a 2004 game... and the xboxis strugling to run it

btw. i played episode 1 with a ocd 6600GT + amd 64 3000 + 1gb

1024 x 768 All detail settings set to the highest ( HDR, Reflect all, 4xAA)

constant 65 / 85 FPS

lol 360 lol

Verge_6

Id say thats the developers fault not the 360's. The 360 can obviously run stuff better than HL2 so it shouldnt have a problem running it at all.

denial. what is mor plausible? all the devs are incompetent / teir fault or the 360 is just not that good?

i think the 360 is and unbalanced console. capable of good graphics if the world has the size of a peanut, and the enemy's have the ai of hl1.

...You know absolutely NOTHING about what you're spouting, do you?

It's obviously a bad port job.

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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="machitocaliente"]

from neogaf

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177407

what a disgrace... even with HDR and shadows is just a 2004 game... and the xboxis strugling to run it

btw. i played episode 1 with a ocd 6600GT + amd 64 3000 + 1gb

1024 x 768 All detail settings set to the highest ( HDR, Reflect all, 4xAA)

constant 65 / 85 FPS

lol 360 lol

machitocaliente

Id say thats the developers fault not the 360's. The 360 can obviously run stuff better than HL2 so it shouldnt have a problem running it at all.

denial. what is mor plausible? all the devs are incompetent / teir fault or the 360 is just not that good?

i think the 360 is and unbalanced console. capable of good graphics if the world has the size of a peanut, and the enemy's have the ai of hl1.

Will that be the case when it runs at 30fps on PS3? Most PS3 games run at 30fps. Is that because it's an unbalanced console?

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#48 D00nut
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HL2 was on the original Xbox and was at 30 FPS. Now 3 years later it's still at 30 FPS on the 360? It can't be the hardware, it has to be the developer.

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#49 Verge_6
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agreed. shoot the devs. or better yet: send a message by NOT buying the game.Dreams-Visions

Seeing as I've had the game installed on my PC for the past 3 years, I had no intentions of buying it in the first place.

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#50 AdolescentDon
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It's annoyingly obvious that it's going to have all the graphical upgrades that are in Ep 2 so it's not really the same game that came out 3 years ago.

But still.. I think it should run faster.