lamao hl2 runs at 30fps on the 360

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#151 killtactics
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Funny all the lemmings using cow excuses for the 30 fps.

"Blame the developers."

"I'm fine with 30 fps"

And to the person who said 30 fps is fine for FPS, you got it backwards. Frames per second are much more important for first person shooters than racing or sports IMO. But, the lack of frames on PC will get you killed, if you are playing someone with faster frames. On consoles, if everyone is limited, then I think it's fine.

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so your saying Hlf2 is the limit of what 360 can do even tho gears and ME look way better.... also COD4...
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#152 jdang307
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[QUOTE="jdang307"]

Funny all the lemmings using cow excuses for the 30 fps.

"Blame the developers."

"I'm fine with 30 fps"

And to the person who said 30 fps is fine for FPS, you got it backwards. Frames per second are much more important for first person shooters than racing or sports IMO. But, the lack of frames on PC will get you killed, if you are playing someone with faster frames. On consoles, if everyone is limited, then I think it's fine.

killtactics

so your saying Hlf2 is the limit of what 360 can do even tho gears and ME look way better.... also COD4...

Where in the hell did you get that from? Lol, I know the logic in System Wars is deranged but what you said in response to what I said is akin to:

Me, "The Sky is Blue"
You, "So you're saying it's going to rain."

I saidit is funny that's all, that it's the exact identical responses used by Sony fans.

hazuki87, no, the OP and others in this thread has stated PC's, with parts that are "weaker" than the parts in a 360, can run the game and its variants better than 30fps. You see the nvidia 6600GT/6800GT mentioned. Lemmings call the RSX a glorified 7800GT, and therefore the 360's gpu faster than a 7800GT, and therefore much faster than a 6600/6800.

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#153 leejohnson7
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]I think 60fps is a pretty low expectation for a 3 year-old game. 60fps is the bare minimum.
dd99

actually 60fps is max, as a tv (HD lcd crt whatever u want) only refreshes 60times a second, so any more fps will not actually be visible

as long as they are continuous, yes they are visible. I don't know where people get off thinking that 60fps (exactly 60 as well, like a milestone) is the maximum speed "teh human eye" can see at.

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#154 DA_B0MB
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]LOl it runs at 200-300 fps on my PC.Dreams-Visions
same.

That's ridiculous. On my PC I DLed the demo and it had to be running at 20 fps tops... :(

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#155 Raidea
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Ok. I saw the reference..... but the referece is that "Looks like the 360 version has a 30fps cap

"Looks like" is hardly confirmation. Speculation maybe. Observations that may or may not be right.VoodooHak

I doubt when using 'looks like' he meant it literally!

Your reliable source says:VoodooHak

Yes yes, great example of nit picking there. With regards to me calling him reliable, I meant that he would have no reason to lie, not that what he says is 100% accurate.

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#156 VoodooHak
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[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]Ok. I saw the reference..... but the referece is that "Looks like the 360 version has a 30fps cap

"Looks like" is hardly confirmation. Speculation maybe. Observations that may or may not be right.Raidea

I doubt when using 'looks like' he meant it literally!

Your reliable source says:VoodooHak

Yes yes, great example of nit picking there. With regards to me calling him reliable, I meant that he would have no reason to lie, not that what he says is 100% accurate.

I never thought he was lying, but the TC shoiuldn't quote Nav as a source of fact... that's what I take issue with.

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#157 djxaquaxblue
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Doesnt the 360 version get all of the enhacements that ep 2 brings in graphics department? I mean Hl2, and ep1 will look better than their original release.... IDKwolverine4262

I thought they added motion blur to it also like how they are doing it in the game Crysis.

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#158 ProductNumber49
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My 1.8 ghz computer can run it at 60 fps :|
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#159 BatmanBegins24
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They are making graphical enhancements to it.Kind of like Lost Coast or Episode 1.It's not a direct port of the PC version.

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#161 BatmanBegins24
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[QUOTE="JiveT"]Wow after wasting precious minutes of my life reading through the neogaf posts looking for what the TC is babbling about I still have no clue. There is no confirmation either way what the frame rate is but if its locked at 30FPS with nifty new effects the original game did not have then that's good enough for a single player FPS experience. 60FPS is always nice but its not crucial unless you are serious about multiplayer.R-Dot-Yung

30 FPS for a FPS with an engine made in 2004 is NOT acceptable

dont spin spin spin

Any news on PS3 development?

There have been many modifications to the engine.It's very versatile.Enemy Territory:Quake Wars is running on the Doom 3 engine which was before the Steam engine and yet the PS3 or 360 cannot run that game.

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#162 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="JiveT"]Wow after wasting precious minutes of my life reading through the neogaf posts looking for what the TC is babbling about I still have no clue. There is no confirmation either way what the frame rate is but if its locked at 30FPS with nifty new effects the original game did not have then that's good enough for a single player FPS experience. 60FPS is always nice but its not crucial unless you are serious about multiplayer.R-Dot-Yung

30 FPS for a FPS with an engine made in 2004 is NOT acceptable

dont spin spin spin

Any news on PS3 development?

This game has a lot of graphical improvements and should not be compared to the Half-Life 2 that released in 2004. This is perfectly acceptable on consoles imo. I have games that run at 30fps and look worse on 360. Maybe I just don't feel the need to knitpick every little thing to death like some people here.

Remember, PS3 development was being passed off to EA after what Gabe Newell said about PS3, so don't expect any wonders on the PS3 either.

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#163 LegendofYaslint
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from neogaf

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177407

what a disgrace... even with HDR and shadows is just a 2004 game... and the xboxis strugling to run it

btw. i played episode 1 with a ocd 6600GT + amd 64 3000 + 1gb

1024 x 768 All detail settings set to the highest ( HDR, Reflect all, 4xAA)

constant 65 / 85 FPS

lol 360 lol

machitocaliente

Call of Duty 4 looks WAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better than Half life 2 and it runs at a locked 60fps on the 360.

So you just made a complete fool out of yourself.

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#164 FrozenLiquid
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So....

Any of you guys with HL2 vanilla got the effects the 360 is running?

Didn't think so.

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#166 HPPL3
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Please the 360 has tons of games at 60 FPS.

Its the dev.

Gabe and his crewjust want to throw the game out there and they don't want to spend the time or money to optimize it.

Again the 360 30 fps games, so topic should be "valve sucks at developing"

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#167 PacBoy23
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LMAO you spelled " lmao " wrong no but seriously i was laughing pretty hard that you were so excited to make this topic you spelled lmao wrong how much did your computer cost that runs it in 60fps or more and so what other games that look good run in 60 fps and i dont really notice that much of a difference personally most of the time
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#168 ferrarimanf355
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from neogaf

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177407

what a disgrace... even with HDR and shadows is just a 2004 game... and the xboxis strugling to run it

btw. i played episode 1 with a ocd 6600GT + amd 64 3000 + 1gb

1024 x 768 All detail settings set to the highest ( HDR, Reflect all, 4xAA)

constant 65 / 85 FPS

lol 360 lol

machitocaliente

Come back with a reliable source next time. :|

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#169 coolmonkeykid
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[QUOTE="coolmonkeykid"]btw 30 fps is unplayable for any fps game. but i guess console kids are used to having low fps.krp008

And PC nerds will spend their life savings just to get 30 FPS higher in a video game

Wrong yet again..just shows your stupidity. BTW not all of us are poor.

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#170 blues3531
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]LOl it runs at 200-300 fps on my PC.Dreams-Visions
same.

yea i hit like around 60-120 depending on indoor/outdoors with game maxed, thats crap that its 30fps on 360

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#171 blues3531
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LMAO you spelled " lmao " wrong no but seriously i was laughing pretty hard that you were so excited to make this topic you spelled lmao wrong how much did your computer cost that runs it in 60fps or more and so what other games that look good run in 60 fps and i dont really notice that much of a difference personally most of the timePacBoy23

with the specs he posted u can make that comp for around $500 today maybe even less

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#172 3picuri3
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man apparently none of you read -- so from now on credibility = just a link? do any of you read the freaking links? if you did you'd all be asking this:

WHERE THE HELL IS THE REFERENCE IN THE LINKED THREAD TO 30FPS ON 360 - I CAN'T SEE IT, IF IT'S THERE IT'S NOT IN THE OFFICIAL QUOTE.

and somehow this thread hits 9 pages *shakes head*

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#173 mentzer
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http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/68676.html

Is this gameplay from the PC version or 360/PS3 version.....

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#174 mismajor99
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http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/68676.html

Is this gameplay from the PC version or 360/PS3 version.....

mentzer

That's an easy one, it's the PC version, look to the right of the screen, it says "shift" and "space".

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#175 mentzer
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[QUOTE="mentzer"]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/68676.html

Is this gameplay from the PC version or 360/PS3 version.....

mismajor99

That's an easy one, it's the PC version, look to the right of the screen, it says "shift" and "space".

IGN recently played Portal on PS3 and Episode 2 on 360, but unfortunately didn't mention anything about whether the framerate was 30 or 60 FPS.

There was no mention of any framerate problems however. Would be nice if someone at IGN could clear this up.

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#176 ganon42
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hey its still not comming to the wii
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#177 Harbadakus
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So....

Any of you guys with HL2 vanilla got the effects the 360 is running?

Didn't think so.

FrozenLiquid

Exactly. 360 version has full dynamic lighting(self-shadowing too iirc), improved water, higher poly models etc.

(all the extra effects HL:ep2 has)

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#178 rocktimusprime
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so wheres the confirmed reliable source?
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#179 dlind70
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Where in the link are fraps even mentioned? NeoGAF babble aside, I believe Valve confirmed last year that the 360 versions of Half-Life 2 and Portal would run at 60FPS. The episodes and TF2 , though, were another story.
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#180 3picuri3
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Where in the link are fraps even mentioned? NeoGAF babble aside, I believe Valve confirmed last year that the 360 versions of Half-Life 2 and Portal would run at 60FPS. The episodes and TF2 , though, were another story.dlind70

i really can't see team fortress having any framerate issues ;) i'm not saying i don't love it (because I do and can't wait for it to come) but it ain't all that visually complicated.

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#181 bakalhau90
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Isn't the 360 equivalent to AT LEAST an ATI X1800Pro or whatever? If my X1400 maxes out the game at 30FPS with 16xAF and 2xAA at 1200x800 (let's then, for the sake of a comparison say it runs it at 800p) then if the 360's version can't get more than 30FPS with 4xAA and 4xAF at 720p then I say it's obviously the developer's fault.

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#182 Trashface
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Forza 2 is 60 fps and it's excellent. Why the worry?
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#185 dhjohns
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[QUOTE="Hoobinator"]Port from the PC to simultaneous PS3 and 360 platforms. Though I did expect a constant 60fps.Dreams-Visions
I think 60fps is a pretty low expectation for a 3 year-old game. 60fps is the bare minimum.

Do console games do more than 60 fps?

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#186 l-_-l
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from neogaf

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177407

what a disgrace... even with HDR and shadows is just a 2004 game... and the xboxis strugling to run it

btw. i played episode 1 with a ocd 6600GT + amd 64 3000 + 1gb

1024 x 768 All detail settings set to the highest ( HDR, Reflect all, 4xAA)

constant 65 / 85 FPS

lol 360 lol

machitocaliente
Sorry, but thats not highest settings, not even close. Thats just the highest that card goes.