lamao hl2 runs at 30fps on the 360

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="D00nut"]

HL2 was on the original Xbox and was at 30 FPS. Now 3 years later it's still at 30 FPS on the 360? It can't be the hardware, it has to be the developer.

machitocaliente

"360 version of Half-Life 2 featured in the Orange box will be updated with HDR, dynamic shadows, updated water, and character models from ep2. But only the 360 version not PC for now."

lol, is just the same engine used in hld ep 1. thats all. and the 360 has trouble with it. btw the source engine is one of the most scalable engines in the industry.

You don't know what you're talking about, do you?

from neogaf

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177407

what a disgrace... even with HDR and shadows is just a 2004 game... and the xboxis strugling to run it

btw. i played episode 1 with a ocd 6600GT + amd 64 3000 + 1gb

1024 x 768 All detail settings set to the highest ( HDR, Reflect all, 4xAA)

constant 65 / 85 FPS

lol 360 lol

machitocaliente

Lol LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL DATS HILARIOUS LOOOOOOOOOOL LMAOOOO SO FUNNY, 30 FPS ONLY LOL LOL LOL I CAN'T IMAGINE PEOPLE PLAYING GAMES ON 30 FPS ONLY LMFAOOOOO , YOU'RE TEH ELITE FUNNAYY.

seriously, what's funny about that?? supposedly "weak" hardware or bad (don't see whats bad about 30 fps but watever) optimization makes you laugh??

Don't play S.T.A.L.K.E.R, you might die of laughter.

[QUOTE="krp008"]Blame it on Valve, not the 360. Gears totally destroys HL2 in graphics, and it runs silky smooth on the 360.machitocaliente

gears has one of the most pathetic Ai in game history. i mean it. even HL1 has better ai. a lot better actually.

errr Cod2 and 3 ran at 60fps, Forza 2 ran at 60fps, few other games have. Any one of these devs could easily run 60fps...the problem is most people will take a consistant 30fps/mo. Blur with more detail then 60fps with less detail.

and lol you lost all credibility saying HL1 (whiling have great AI for it's time) tops Gears AI, or how about Fear, or Forza 's AI. Which is some of the best in the industry as far as racing goes.

Your just ignorantly trolling. Do you have proof of this claim anyhow...

[QUOTE="Raidea"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Raidea"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]I'm fine with 30fps. :|Meu2k7

Yes, I don't see what the big deal is. 60fps is more for racing, sport and action games. Most console FPSs are 30fps.

I guess the big deal is the fact that this is a 2004 game, considering consoels are suppose to me mid-end PC's thats not the case because even low-end could run Half-Life 2 max better now.

But its down to the Dev's port though.

You don't think it will look any better than it did in 2004?

As I've already said, most console FPSs run at 30 frames, it's an industry standard.

As long as it doesn't dip, that's fine by me. Plus, as some people have pointed out, COD4 runs at 60 frames, so its not like the 360 isn't fully capable of producing good graphics at that speed.

I agree, and yea there is additional graphics, not much noticable , but its also being patched into the PC version according to STEAM.

and to be honest ... CoD4 Multiplayer looks THAT BAD , I'm not suprised its 60 FPS ... this is the most overated game of the year.

[QUOTE="Raidea"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]I'm fine with 30fps. :|Fyper

Yes, I don't see what the big deal is. 60fps is more for racing, sport and action games. Most console FPSs are 30fps.

Trust me, if you ever played a shooter at more then 60 FPS, say, 100 or more and you would go back to 30FPS, you will think the game was pulled straight out of a portal of hell.

If I remember correctly, the way PC Monitors display images is different from the way TVs do it. Yeah sure it is unacceptable to play a shooter at 30 fps on a PC monitor. But aren't all TVs limited to 30 fps? All I know is that 30 fps on PC monitor =/= 30 fps on TV.

I am so going to get the game because its a good value and the frame rate is good enogh for me.

The Gamespot interview was with a 360 and it looked fine.......

[QUOTE="Raidea"]You don't think it will look any better than it did in 2004?

As I've already said, most console FPSs run at 30 frames, it's an industry standard.

As long as it doesn't dip, that's fine by me. Plus, as some people have pointed out, COD4 runs at 60 frames, so its not like the 360 isn't fully capable of producing good graphics at that speed.

Meu2k7

I agree, and yea there is additional graphics, not much noticable , but its also being patched into the PC version according to STEAM.

and to be honest ... CoD4 Multiplayer looks THAT BAD , I'm not suprised its 60 FPS ... this is the most overated game of the year.

Well, CoD4 clearly doesn't look bad. (Though I won't disagree that it's overrated.) Nice try at dodging the argument though.

So there are better graphics. In fact, I've heard they have added all the Episode 1 graphical enhancements to HL2, as well as reskinning some enemies and allies. The fact that the new graphical enhancements are being patched for PC has nothing to do with this discussion.

If I remember correctly, the way PC Monitors display images is different from the way TVs do it. Yeah sure it is unacceptable to play a shooter at 30 fps on a PC monitor. But aren't all TVs limited to 30 fps? All I know is that 30 fps on PC monitor =/= 30 fps on TV.

jo0ni3

TVs display images at either 30HZ or 60HZ, which is 30 and 60 frames per second. Some TVs do 50, but 30 and 60 are the usual standards. You won't get any console games with anything other than 30 or 60 FPS.

[QUOTE="machitocaliente"]

from neogaf

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177407

what a disgrace... even with HDR and shadows is just a 2004 game... and the xboxis strugling to run it

btw. i played episode 1 with a ocd 6600GT + amd 64 3000 + 1gb

1024 x 768 All detail settings set to the highest ( HDR, Reflect all, 4xAA)

constant 65 / 85 FPS

lol 360 lol

thejakel11225

Lol LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL DATS HILARIOUS LOOOOOOOOOOL LMAOOOO SO FUNNY, 30 FPS ONLY LOL LOL LOL I CAN'T IMAGINE PEOPLE PLAYING GAMES ON 30 FPS ONLY LMFAOOOOO , YOU'RE TEH ELITE FUNNAYY.

seriously, what's funny about that?? supposedly "weak" hardware or bad (don't see whats bad about 30 fps but watever) optimization makes you laugh??

Don't play S.T.A.L.K.E.R, you might die of laughter.

Haha, so true. STALKER is optimized so poorly. It gives my 8800GTX and processor a workout, and it shouldn't. Also, it's a system hog.

I am so going to get the game because its a good value and the frame rate is good enogh for me.

The Gamespot interview was with a 360 and it looked fine.......

Killer2401

that's fair enough. enjoy it ;)

[QUOTE="Killer2401"]

I am so going to get the game because its a good value and the frame rate is good enogh for me.

The Gamespot interview was with a 360 and it looked fine.......

machitocaliente

that's fair enough. enjoy it ;)

Im also getting the 360 version. I think everyone needs to admit the truth here.

PC games look better than home console counterparts... its the truth and theres nothign you can do about it. However I like playing on a console with better for some reason. I also think that when you compare Half-Life 2 Orange Box to Half-Life 2 on the PC in 2004 youll see that the 360 version looks the same if not a bit better, but runs a little less smooth... big deal.

Also the PS3 version will be worse than all of them.... there goes my neutraility.

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]LOl it runs at 200-300 fps on my PC.machitocaliente

my current pc run it faster. e6600 / 2GB/ 8800GTS btw

Thats exactly the rig I want now :( if only I had money for it XD, and this sounds like a bad port to me...

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]What's so bad about 30fps anyways? Wasn't that the norm last-gen?mismajor99

It's NOT from 2004. Episide 2(Along with HL2 and EP1) will have a completely updated Source engine that WILL push the 360's hardware. This is not the source version from 2004. There's a reason why it's running at 30 FPS. If it was a problem, Valve wouldn't release it. I suspect no one will be able to tell the diference on the 360 version anyway.

I see. Didn't know that.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Heil68"]ok, now what?machitocaliente

superior looking games? superior? really? 360 bioshock superior?.... LOL

Yes. 360's Bioshock doesn't look better than 360's Half-Life 2 now? :|

well, in case anyone didn't know, the human eye can only see at 30 fps anyways, so as long as there are no slowdowns...

you won't be able to tell the difference.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

TC, here's a little fact for you; COD4, which looks better than HL2, has a framerate of 60fps+, and is on the 360. Now, you can do three things;

1) Admit you don't know what the hell you are talking about, and admit defeat

2) Come up with an excuse

3) Vanish

machitocaliente

LOL im telling it like it is. all 360 games barely run at 30fps. horrible. cod4 is just hype, hot air. talk to me when the actual game is running at more than 25fps. till then, is just another lie, like the free 4xAA XD

...Please tell me you're not being serious. Please. if you are, I will have NO faith lef tin mankind.

[QUOTE="machitocaliente"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Heil68"]ok, now what?Dreams-Visions

superior looking games? superior? really? 360 bioshock superior?.... LOL

Yes. 360's Bioshock doesn't look better than 360's Half-Life 2 now? :|

Wow, he's ignorant AND blind!

This is fake stuff posted on a forum, this has happened before, just push on folkssoiguessialive

The source in question is pretty reliable.

[QUOTE="skixwolf"]im confused, where's the link to a reliable source?beardtm

Seriously.

Forget that a link to another forum is hardly a reliable source......

I read through the thread and I didn't see it. Maybe I just missed the part where someone reliable says that it's going to run at 30fps. Where is i t?

[QUOTE="soiguessialive"]This is fake stuff posted on a forum, this has happened before, just push on folksRaidea

The source in question is pretty reliable.

30 FPS is not mentioned in the "Source"

[QUOTE="machitocaliente"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Heil68"]ok, now what?Dreams-Visions

superior looking games? superior? really? 360 bioshock superior?.... LOL

Yes. 360's Bioshock doesn't look better than 360's Half-Life 2 now? :|

is not superior compared to the pc version.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="machitocaliente"]

machitocaliente

is not superior compared to the pc version.

That is purely speculation. I am pretty damn sure that the PC version will be the best, but look at GRAW on PC, then look at it on 360. GRAW is superior on 360. With that said, I'm buying it for 360 and PC so I can experience both. :)

Port from the PC to simultaneous PS3 and 360 platforms. Though I did expect a constant 60fps.Hoobinator

Yeah, me too. And the game is made by a good studio. You would expect them to optimize it really well.

[QUOTE="Raidea"]

[QUOTE="soiguessialive"]This is fake stuff posted on a forum, this has happened before, just push on folksAtilac

The source in question is pretty reliable.

30 FPS is not mentioned in the "Source"

The source is Nav from the HLfallout forums, who has played the game and asked Valve questions about it, on the second page it has a quote from him saying it is locked at 30fps.

He has no reason to lie, its not system wars.

[QUOTE="Atilac"][QUOTE="Raidea"]

[QUOTE="soiguessialive"]This is fake stuff posted on a forum, this has happened before, just push on folksRaidea

The source in question is pretty reliable.

30 FPS is not mentioned in the "Source"

The source is Nav from the HLfallout forums, who has played the game and asked Valve questions about it, on the second page it has a quote from him saying it is locked at 30fps.

He has no reason to lie, its not system wars.

[QUOTE="Raidea"][QUOTE="Atilac"][QUOTE="Raidea"]

[QUOTE="soiguessialive"]This is fake stuff posted on a forum, this has happened before, just push on folksrhaigun

The source in question is pretty reliable.

30 FPS is not mentioned in the "Source"

The source is Nav from the HLfallout forums, who has played the game and asked Valve questions about it, on the second page it has a quote from him saying it is locked at 30fps.

He has no reason to lie, its not system wars.

Believe what you like, I'm just telling you the source is reliable.

will i be able to notice it? if not what the **** are you all raving about?

does anyone know which xbox 360 games run at 30 and 60fps? id be interested to know cheers

from neogaf

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177407

what a disgrace... even with HDR and shadows is just a 2004 game... and the xboxis strugling to run it

btw. i played episode 1 with a ocd 6600GT + amd 64 3000 + 1gb

1024 x 768 All detail settings set to the highest ( HDR, Reflect all, 4xAA)

constant 65 / 85 FPS

lol 360 lol

machitocaliente

Did anybody notice that only for the 360 version they get all of the graphical upgrades? Not the PS3 or PC. Wasdie

All of them will I think, they just previewed the 360 version.

[QUOTE="machitocaliente"]

from neogaf

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177407

what a disgrace... even with HDR and shadows is just a 2004 game... and the xboxis strugling to run it

btw. i played episode 1 with a ocd 6600GT + amd 64 3000 + 1gb

1024 x 768 All detail settings set to the highest ( HDR, Reflect all, 4xAA)

constant 65 / 85 FPS

lol 360 lol

DivergeUnify

your knowledge is minuscule. i do not need to lie.

A your Pentium 4 is not good. at all.

B you gpu is not ocd btw the 6600gt was 600 core ( pencil mod / zalman cooler)

thats hardly minuscule.

c im almost sure your os / bios / drivers are not well tuned ( 65.000 process / ruining applications / incorrect settings etc)

performance is software AND hardware

stik to consoles

You can hit over 60-80FPS using a 6800GT in HL2 EP1.

TBH I expected 60FPS+

[QUOTE="rhaigun"][QUOTE="Raidea"][QUOTE="Atilac"][QUOTE="Raidea"]

[QUOTE="soiguessialive"]This is fake stuff posted on a forum, this has happened before, just push on folksRaidea

The source in question is pretty reliable.

30 FPS is not mentioned in the "Source"

The source is Nav from the HLfallout forums, who has played the game and asked Valve questions about it, on the second page it has a quote from him saying it is locked at 30fps.

He has no reason to lie, its not system wars.

Believe what you like, I'm just telling you the source is reliable.

Ok. I saw the reference..... but the referece is that "Looks like the 360 version has a 30fps cap

"Looks like" is hardly confirmation. Speculation maybe. Observations that may or may not be right.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]Did anybody notice that only for the 360 version they get all of the graphical upgrades? Not the PS3 or PC. Raidea

All of them will I think, they just previewed the 360 version.

Your reliable source says:

"I talked to them, and it seems that the new 360 version of hl2 in the orange box WILL have HDR, and dynamic shadows, the new water, imported character models from episode 2 (like the vortigaunts and alyx)...

He only said for the 360 version though... They'll probably release some form of it for the PC later on, is my guess (and hope)."

That it would be released for PC later was his "guess" and "hope"

You can hit over 60-80FPS using a 6800GT in HL2 EP1.

TBH I expected 60FPS+

WhySoCry

I can't see anything on that forum that would make me believe that it wasn't. 30fps won't be that bad anyway, it's not like your only sittting a foot away like with a monitor anyway.

Also I doubt the TC get 65-80fps when the cooling tower falls over when you are in the boat.

Did anybody notice that only for the 360 version they get all of the graphical upgrades? Not the PS3 or PC. Wasdie

Valve is patching in the graphical updates for the PC Version Via Steam at some point.

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="machitocaliente"]

from neogaf

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177407

what a disgrace... even with HDR and shadows is just a 2004 game... and the xboxis strugling to run it

btw. i played episode 1 with a ocd 6600GT + amd 64 3000 + 1gb

1024 x 768 All detail settings set to the highest ( HDR, Reflect all, 4xAA)

constant 65 / 85 FPS

lol 360 lol

machitocaliente

your knowledge is minuscule. i do not need to lie.

A your Pentium 4 is not good. at all.

B you gpu is not ocd btw the 6600gt was 600 core ( pencil mod / zalman cooler)

thats hardly minuscule.

c im almost sure your os / bios / drivers are not well tuned ( 65.000 process / ruining applications / incorrect settings etc)

performance is software AND hardware

stik to consoles

Funny all the lemmings using cow excuses for the 30 fps.

"Blame the developers."

"I'm fine with 30 fps"

And to the person who said 30 fps is fine for FPS, you got it backwards. Frames per second are much more important for first person shooters than racing or sports IMO. But, the lack of frames on PC will get you killed, if you are playing someone with faster frames. On consoles, if everyone is limited, then I think it's fine.