And this game wasn't even that hyped.
I'm no fanboy, but Nintendo just massively owned massively.
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Its great that it got a good score.
But still, handheld games dont get reviewed the same. I mean looking at the scores your saying that this DS game beats Gears 2, reistance 2, Killzone 2, and past console GTA games?
I dont think so, this just proves that whilst great, its reviewed differently to non handheld gaming systems...
TC, DO NOT forget that it's a DS game. This DOES NOT beat any other games from other consoles or handhelds. 8)
in 2009 it does, if we only count gamespots score, the closest any other game has got is street fighter 4 and killzone 2 with 9's.TC, DO NOT forget that it's a DS game. This DOES NOT beat any other games from other consoles or handhelds. 8)
dr_jashugan
Is is the exact same concept as Super Mario Bros. being a better game than Killzone 2. The exact same concept.Its great that it got a good score.
But still, handheld games dont get reviewed the same. I mean looking at the scores your saying that this DS game beats Gears 2, reistance 2, Killzone 2, and past console GTA games?
I dont think so, this just proves that whilst great, its reviewed differently to non handheld gaming systems...
NinjaMunkey01
have you played the game?Its great that it got a good score.
But still, handheld games dont get reviewed the same. I mean looking at the scores your saying that this DS game beats Gears 2, reistance 2, Killzone 2, and past console GTA games?
I dont think so, this just proves that whilst great, its reviewed differently to non handheld gaming systems...
NinjaMunkey01
Its great that it got a good score.
But still, handheld games dont get reviewed the same. I mean looking at the scores your saying that this DS game beats Gears 2, reistance 2, Killzone 2, and past console GTA games?
I dont think so, this just proves that whilst great, its reviewed differently to non handheld gaming systems...
NinjaMunkey01
well this comes from the review
Perhaps what's most amazing about Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars is that it doesn't feel like a scaled-down handheld version of a GTA game. Rather, it feels like a logical and somewhat experimental progression for the series, introducing a handful of great new features that seem destined to become standard in future iterations. And don't let the art style or the presence of simple minigames fool you; Chinatown Wars is every bit as deserving of its mature rating as previous games. It's also one of the best GTA games yet.
In other words. It's as good as the console GTAs
The game is as good as teh reviews are saying. For once i actually agree with a gamespot review lol. Its a easy 9 or 9.5 imo.
Best two games so far this year??? EMPIRE TOTAL WAR on PC and GTA Chinatown on DS!
Am I the only one who is enjoying Chinatown on DS alot more then GTA IV? To me Chinatown is just a heck of alot more FUN! Sure the graphics and what not are not as good, but ill be damned if Chinatown isnt the better game overall.
Its great that it got a good score.
But still, handheld games dont get reviewed the same. I mean looking at the scores your saying that this DS game beats Gears 2, reistance 2, Killzone 2, and past console GTA games?
I dont think so, this just proves that whilst great, its reviewed differently to non handheld gaming systems...
have you played the game? No, I might get it though. But call me prejudist against handhelds, but I just cannot see how it could ever be as good as a proper console game like killzone 2 with better visuals, cutscenes, larger worlds, draw distances and good oline play. I just cant see how it could ever be anywhere near as good as GTA4, or any of my favourite shooters. Maybe im wrong. Though thats just how I feel about this. I mean can you really say its better than killzone 2? really? Be honest, or gears 2? of RE5?????Great score, but Its a handheld game, so I doubt many people will care :(II_Seraphim_IIexcept for people who own a ds? i hope people don't start coming out praising this game as the greatest thing ever, when gta4 was bashed by everyone. I enjoyed gta4 so i might like this game, peple who didn't enjoy gta4 shouldn't enjoy this game.
its a fantastic game, very deserving of the reviews its getting. everyone who was claiming "fail" when they saw the screenshots has been massively owned, and unfortunately some are still in denial.Ewok432Indeed. It gets the GTA feel, and improves and adds good features. (especially the cop takedowns, I love that)
And this game wasn't even that hyped.
I'm no fanboy, but Nintendo just massively owned massively.
n00bproof
Don't you mean R* owns since they owned every doubter including myself.
[QUOTE="Ewok432"][QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]have you played the game? No, I might get it though. But call me prejudist against handhelds, but I just cannot see how it could ever be as good as a proper console game like killzone 2 with better visuals, cutscenes, larger worlds, draw distances and good oline play. I just cant see how it could ever be anywhere near as good as GTA4, or any of my favourite shooters. Maybe im wrong. Though thats just how I feel about this. I mean can you really say its better than killzone 2? really? Be honest, or gears 2? of RE5?????Its great that it got a good score.
But still, handheld games dont get reviewed the same. I mean looking at the scores your saying that this DS game beats Gears 2, reistance 2, Killzone 2, and past console GTA games?
I dont think so, this just proves that whilst great, its reviewed differently to non handheld gaming systems...
NinjaMunkey01
If it's more fun, then yeah, it's better.
[QUOTE="Ewok432"][QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]have you played the game?No, I might get it though. But call me prejudist against handhelds, but I just cannot see how it could ever be as good as a proper console game like killzone 2 with better visuals, cutscenes, larger worlds, draw distances and good oline play. I just cant see how it could ever be anywhere near as good as GTA4, or any of my favourite shooters. Maybe im wrong. Though thats just how I feel about this. I mean can you really say its better than killzone 2? really? Be honest, or gears 2? of RE5?????Its great that it got a good score.
But still, handheld games dont get reviewed the same. I mean looking at the scores your saying that this DS game beats Gears 2, reistance 2, Killzone 2, and past console GTA games?
I dont think so, this just proves that whilst great, its reviewed differently to non handheld gaming systems...
NinjaMunkey01
hahaha thats what i thought, until you have played it your opinion is invalid on this subject, please escort your way out of the topic and go back to a "killzone is teh greatest" thread
[QUOTE="Ewok432"][QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]have you played the game? No, I might get it though. But call me prejudist against handhelds, but I just cannot see how it could ever be as good as a proper console game like killzone 2 with better visuals, cutscenes, larger worlds, draw distances and good oline play. I just cant see how it could ever be anywhere near as good as GTA4, or any of my favourite shooters. Maybe im wrong. Though thats just how I feel about this. I mean can you really say its better than killzone 2? really? Be honest, or gears 2? of RE5?????Its great that it got a good score.
But still, handheld games dont get reviewed the same. I mean looking at the scores your saying that this DS game beats Gears 2, reistance 2, Killzone 2, and past console GTA games?
I dont think so, this just proves that whilst great, its reviewed differently to non handheld gaming systems...
NinjaMunkey01
My 3 fav games this year are Empire Total War, GTA Chinatown and Killzone2.
I personally find Chinatown to be more FUN then Killzone 2 personally. This is the best GTA game in awhile and alot better then GTA IV imo.
Yes Killzone2 has awesome online, killer graphics, good sound,etc.. but the fun factor just isnt as high for ME PERSONALLY as in GTA Chinatown.
I have an idea.. how bout you actually play both games before saying there is no way one can be better then the other?
LOLWUT? It's a freaking DS game dude. It's not like people are going "OMG 9.5 **** a 360 I'm going to buy a DS!" I almost can't believe you're series. I guess I missed all this Chinatown Wars hate/doubt.And this game wasn't even that hyped.
I'm no fanboy, but Nintendo just massively owned massively.
n00bproof
I assume you aren't talking about the movie?JandurinLAWL way over everyone's heads. You know people are going to IMDB right now and finding out Jack Nicholson's first movie wasn't The Departed. :P Speaking of which, did you see the episode of Californication where they are filming a parody called Vaginatown? Pretty funny.
[QUOTE="Cedmln"]Um.... Its rated by handheld standards. Not console or PC standards.Nerd_Man
All games are rated the same way.
The World Ends With You (DS) was even nominated last year for GOTY along with the other console games.
So you think that a direct port of Chinatown Wars would still be a AAA title on 360? GOTY means it was more of an achievement for that platform than the other games were for their respective platforms. You can't honestly think that they are even close to the same thing.
A handheld game "owning" all the consoles? You cannot be series.
No, I might get it though. But call me prejudist against handhelds, but I just cannot see how it could ever be as good as a proper console game like killzone 2 with better visuals, cutscenes, larger worlds, draw distances and good oline play. I just cant see how it could ever be anywhere near as good as GTA4, or any of my favourite shooters. Maybe im wrong. Though thats just how I feel about this. I mean can you really say its better than killzone 2? really? Be honest, or gears 2? of RE5?????[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"][QUOTE="Ewok432"] have you played the game?Ewok432
hahaha thats what i thought, until you have played it your opinion is invalid on this subject, please escort your way out of the topic and go back to a "killzone is teh greatest" thread
ok 1) what you said on you last line was a little immature for me, but whatever :P Tbh im sure the game is great, though Im not going to get it really. I just dont see how it can be as good having a DS and having played DS games on it. Games which get AAA on it have never compared to a proper console game. Theyre not reviewed the same. Its fine for you to have a different opinion. Though personally i respectfully disagree.[QUOTE="Nerd_Man"]
[QUOTE="Cedmln"]Um.... Its rated by handheld standards. Not console or PC standards.jjenkins78x
All games are rated the same way.
The World Ends With You (DS) was even nominated last year for GOTY along with the other console games.
So you think that a direct port of Chinatown Wars would still be a AAA title on 360? GOTY means it was more of an achievement for that platform than the other games were for their respective platforms. You can't honestly think that they are even close to the same thing.
A handheld game "owning" all the consoles? You cannot be series.
Exactly. It just does not work. when do we see a handheld game winning overall GOTY? we dont...
oh lol, and series? You were at that thread too :lol:
While I will be picking this game up for my DS for sure and love my DS, I don't really consider it to be in competition with the consoles. Only thing I see it in competition with is the PSP.And this game wasn't even that hyped.
I'm no fanboy, but Nintendo just massively owned massively.
n00bproof
[QUOTE="Cedmln"]Um.... Its rated by handheld standards. Not console or PC standards.Nerd_Man
All games are rated the same way.
The World Ends With You (DS) was even nominated last year for GOTY along with the other console games.
Not all games are rated the same way. Generally speaking I doubt there are any/many diffrences between how they rate games on the current platforms, with the exception of Wii and the handhelds. Where there are diffrences in platforms it is compared against titles on that platform only, but even at that a game on the DS platform could still be better than anything on other platforms even considering technilogcal diffrences. In this case the score has been uped to compensate for inferior graphics and sound, aswell as the reduction in price. It would not have scored the same if it were on the 360 for example, unless it was an arcade title, where again it is reviewed against games on the XBLArcade platform. This is stated in the review guidelines of this website (Though, as others will attempt to tell you, I do not believe there are diffrences in reviewing PC titles and PS3/360 titles because of how similar the games perform on each.).
I'm most suprised by this score. I didn't even think it was being released so soon after only just hearing about it. I thought there was no upcomming game that could have possibly scored 9.5, I thought E:TW might have, but that was shot down. Oh well, I am self owned.
[QUOTE="Ewok432"][QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"] No, I might get it though. But call me prejudist against handhelds, but I just cannot see how it could ever be as good as a proper console game like killzone 2 with better visuals, cutscenes, larger worlds, draw distances and good oline play. I just cant see how it could ever be anywhere near as good as GTA4, or any of my favourite shooters. Maybe im wrong. Though thats just how I feel about this. I mean can you really say its better than killzone 2? really? Be honest, or gears 2? of RE5?????NinjaMunkey01
hahaha thats what i thought, until you have played it your opinion is invalid on this subject, please escort your way out of the topic and go back to a "killzone is teh greatest" thread
ok 1) what you said on you last line was a little immature for me, but whatever :P Tbh im sure the game is great, though Im not going to get it really. I just dont see how it can be as good having a DS and having played DS games on it. Games which get AAA on it have never compared to a proper console game. Theyre not reviewed the same. Its fine for you to have a different opinion. Though personally i respectfully disagree.You do realize that the review contradicts what you said. It may be reviewed differently, but he said it was one of the best GTA games yet. As in it, at worst, compares to the other console GTA games.
[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]Great score, but Its a handheld game, so I doubt many people will care :(Mckenna1845except for people who own a ds? i hope people don't start coming out praising this game as the greatest thing ever, when gta4 was bashed by everyone. I enjoyed gta4 so i might like this game, peple who didn't enjoy gta4 shouldn't enjoy this game. Dont get me wrong, Im excited for this game, I have a DS...im just saying that here on SW people tend to disregard handheld games a lot.
[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"][QUOTE="Ewok432"]
hahaha thats what i thought, until you have played it your opinion is invalid on this subject, please escort your way out of the topic and go back to a "killzone is teh greatest" thread
ok 1) what you said on you last line was a little immature for me, but whatever :P Tbh im sure the game is great, though Im not going to get it really. I just dont see how it can be as good having a DS and having played DS games on it. Games which get AAA on it have never compared to a proper console game. Theyre not reviewed the same. Its fine for you to have a different opinion. Though personally i respectfully disagree.You do realize that the review contradicts what you said. It may be reviewed differently, but he said it was one of the best GTA games yet. As in it, at worst, compares to the other console GTA games.
Honestly thats great. Not going to lie though i dont really care that much. Ill have more fun with GTA4 and games like that. Im sure gameplay wise its good, but as a whole package, lets port it to the 360 and ps3 and see what score it gets...[QUOTE="Mckenna1845"][QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]Great score, but Its a handheld game, so I doubt many people will care :(II_Seraphim_IIexcept for people who own a ds? i hope people don't start coming out praising this game as the greatest thing ever, when gta4 was bashed by everyone. I enjoyed gta4 so i might like this game, peple who didn't enjoy gta4 shouldn't enjoy this game. Dont get me wrong, Im excited for this game, I have a DS...im just saying that here on SW people tend to disregard handheld games a lot.
people here seem to be more concerned with flash then substance.
Dont get me wrong, Im excited for this game, I have a DS...im just saying that here on SW people tend to disregard handheld games a lot.[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="Mckenna1845"] except for people who own a ds? i hope people don't start coming out praising this game as the greatest thing ever, when gta4 was bashed by everyone. I enjoyed gta4 so i might like this game, peple who didn't enjoy gta4 shouldn't enjoy this game.Guybrush_3
people here seem to be more concerned with flash then substance.
It looks better than most DS games in terms of graphics. It's yet to be seen if it's actually better than GTA4 though, so for now it dosn't matter if people believe the game may be limited by the platform. I mean it dosn't have as many controls for a start, they would have to compensate for that in some way. There is a reason why people immediatly identify DS games as inferior, and it's usually because alot of the time they are, with exceptions of course. Usually RPGs. This is not an RPG though so their doubts are understandable.
[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"][QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"] ok 1) what you said on you last line was a little immature for me, but whatever :P Tbh im sure the game is great, though Im not going to get it really. I just dont see how it can be as good having a DS and having played DS games on it. Games which get AAA on it have never compared to a proper console game. Theyre not reviewed the same. Its fine for you to have a different opinion. Though personally i respectfully disagree.NinjaMunkey01
You do realize that the review contradicts what you said. It may be reviewed differently, but he said it was one of the best GTA games yet. As in it, at worst, compares to the other console GTA games.
Honestly thats great. Not going to lie though i dont really care that much. Ill have more fun with GTA4 and games like that. Im sure gameplay wise its good, but as a whole package, lets port it to the 360 and ps3 and see what score it gets... if u dont care that much why are you still in here arguing, we get it you like console games, unfortunately that has nothing to do with this thread. please stop telling us your games r teh bestest and that ds games dont compare, cause honestly nobody cares about ur biased opinion.GTA Chinatown is a vastly better game than GTA4. It's what HD GTA should of been. Lol @ all those saying DS has lower standards, by a graphical point of view maybe but thats about it.
Dahaka-UK
I agree, most fun ive had on any GTA games and ive owned em all.
I hope the group who made this (rockstar london?) does the next console/pc version of GTA, as im having alot more fun with it then i did GTA IV.
Who cares if it doesnt have ground breaking graphics, the gameplay,features, story and art are fantastic! "BUT IT DOESNT HAVE TEH GRAPHICS!"
[QUOTE="Nerd_Man"]
[QUOTE="Cedmln"]Um.... Its rated by handheld standards. Not console or PC standards.jjenkins78x
All games are rated the same way.
The World Ends With You (DS) was even nominated last year for GOTY along with the other console games.
So you think that a direct port of Chinatown Wars would still be a AAA title on 360? GOTY means it was more of an achievement for that platform than the other games were for their respective platforms. You can't honestly think that they are even close to the same thing.
A handheld game "owning" all the consoles? You cannot be series.
If the console versions were to suck, then yes, the DS version would "own" the console versions.
for all those handheld game doubters out there, consider this: is Mario World not better than every game that has come out this generation? Argued by many, yes.Are A link to the Past and Ocarina of time the best adventure games ever made? Very little refute that and they are both doable on DS or lower.
what about 2D games? In many cases certain series and Genres are only successful in this format. Castlevania and Sonic are good examples. Neither has ever really produced a good 3d game (in my opinion), however, their 2D games are always fantastic! Take a look at Street Fighter IV. It could have been made in 2D and put on the DS and be the exact same game with similar reviews.
In my opinion Braid and World of Goo are among the best games this generation and guess what, they are very doable on the DS
I'll admit that certain games benefit from more power (Survival Horrorand FPS gamesare very good examples of this), however, there are many that simply don't need all that extra power to be any more fun than they are (Platformers, Puzzle games, and rhythm gamesare good example of this)
Handhelds are just as valid as consoles
[QUOTE="jjenkins78x"]
[QUOTE="Nerd_Man"]
All games are rated the same way.
The World Ends With You (DS) was even nominated last year for GOTY along with the other console games.NinjaMunkey01
So you think that a direct port of Chinatown Wars would still be a AAA title on 360? GOTY means it was more of an achievement for that platform than the other games were for their respective platforms. You can't honestly think that they are even close to the same thing.
A handheld game "owning" all the consoles? You cannot be series.
Exactly. It just does not work. when do we see a handheld game winning overall GOTY? we dont...
oh lol, and series? You were at that thread too :lol:
Well if you really can't see it, then look at last year. The HANDHELD game may not have won, but it was certainly nominated, and given a chance. You may not see a handheld game ever winning, but this one in particular certainly beat out precious games like Gears of War 2 and Super Smash Bros. Brawl here at GS for getting nominated. Never doubt, and realize GAMES are GAMES.
I see the standards argument coming up a lot. So........if "inferior" handheld standards are not good enough for you console players, why should hermits care about inferior consoles and their standards? Should we just ignore them as well?lettuceman44
Handheld video games are apparently not video games :( That's just System Wars.
I see the standards argument coming up a lot.lettuceman44Yeah it's funny. This always comes up when people hate to admit handhelds can have good games too. And it's funny how 360/PS3 fans are using "teh standards" against the DS, but they hate it when PC owners do it to them.
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