LBP vs. NSMBW

Little big planet.

I was in love with NSMB for like 2 days, but then I just got tired of it.

:lol: @ the poll for people not recognizing LBP. It's one of the most memorable and unique games ever made. NSMBW is just old ideas with a fresh coat of paint. NAPK1NS

Maybe the old ideas are better than the new ideas.

[QUOTE="Hahadouken"]

Since Gamespot scores are the Bible here, it's a fact that LBP is better.

Jandurin

:lol: @ the poll for people not recognizing LBP. It's one of the most memorable and unique games ever made. NSMBW is just old ideas with a fresh coat of paint. NAPK1NS

[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]:lol: @ the poll for people not recognizing LBP. It's one of the most memorable and unique games ever made. NSMBW is just old ideas with a fresh coat of paint. Shinobishyguy

Not really. NSMBWii is the better platformer hands down. The better game is up for debate though.

While NSMBW kicks the crap out of LBP in the actual platforming department, LBP is one of my favorite games ever. It just has so much more then NSMBW, on top of the community and the fact that it's more fun.

IMO of course...theyre both great games

[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]

Maybe the old ideas are better than the new ideas.

Burning-Sludge

[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]:lol: @ the poll for people not recognizing LBP. It's one of the most memorable and unique games ever made. NSMBW is just old ideas with a fresh coat of paint. Shinobishyguy

I don't get the whole floaty thing with LBP controls. It's so simple, the harder you press X the higher Sackboy jumps. And don't forget he's a SACK, he is going to be floaty. It's like tossing a piece of paper in the air. Also the lighter you press X the shorter and quicker the jump. I don't get this whole floaty nonsense, it's just a different take on a basic concept using real world physics. And as far as running, why does something have to run faster and faster the longer it runs? I just don't understand that take. It wouldn't be beneficial for LBP anyway since the idea is to COLLECT rather than just get to point A and B.Kekira

Sacks aren't floaty, watchu talking about. Imo better game goes to LBP, better platformer goes to NSMBWii. NSMBWii has bettercore platforming gameplay and great pre-designed levels, but LBP is the better overall experience with much more replay value. I'm not saying that the LBP platforming gameplay is lacking, but its not as good as SMB. This is just another preference sort of poll, so who cares about what I say.

I'd have to say LittleBigPlanet because you make your own game. There's so much to do and so many good levels that people make, endless fun because there's always a new level to try.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]:lol: @ the poll for people not recognizing LBP. It's one of the most memorable and unique games ever made. NSMBW is just old ideas with a fresh coat of paint. ActicEdge

Not really. NSMBWii is the better platformer hands down. The better game is up for debate though.

I guess if you want to go with pure platforming (that is, simply jumping from one platform to a different platform from beginning of stage to end), then MAYBE you could make an argument for Mario. LBP mixes so many more gameplay elements into the platforming; teamwork, puzzle solving, mini-races, different takes on platforming (such as hanging and swinging). Platforming with all kinds of other elements thrown in > simple platforming.

ianuilliam

WTF is a mini-race?

Does throwing in all kinds of other elements work for all games like throwing in FPS elements into a fighting game?

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] sure LBP is more original. Which one is the better platformer is more open to debate though.ianuilliam

Not really. NSMBWii is the better platformer hands down. The better game is up for debate though.

You make LBP platforming sound so deep when its shallow as hell and lacks any depth. Its kinda hilarious actually. Mario Wins hands down because its the tighter, more defined, better designed game with a far superior platforming mechanic than LBP could hope to have. The actual depth of LBP platforming (and aI mean to its core, not fluffed up crap) is lacking. As I continuously say, it plays worse than what I experienced onthe NES let alone holding its own against something like NSMBWii. Basically, competent platforming with levels built that allow all different types of runs from incredible speed runs, precision runs, star coin runs is better than whatever the hell you want to call LBP.

As far as entire packages LBP has the edge imo.

LBP is a fun game I will say, but it pretty much fails as a serious platformer. ArisShadows

I have played both, and I can say that LBP will take up more of my time than NSMB Wii.

Reasons:

LBP already has 4-player co-op, and it can be online as well

NSMB Wii doesn't have a robust level creator, nor does it have thousands of quality levels for FREE.

LBP has DLC- and some of it is free!

LBP has costumes and stickers, allowing for more player creativity.

NSMB Wii only has a set number of levels, so when your done, youre done. No extra levels, no nothing.

There are collectables in each one (star coins for NSMBW, prize bubbles for LBP)

ANyway, that's my two cents. I like both, but love LBP.

The only thing I dislike about LBP is the jumping really sucks. ANd transferring between layers is mildly annoying.

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"] sure LBP is more original. Which one is the better platformer is more open to debate though.Burning-Sludge

Not really. NSMBWii is the better platformer hands down. The better game is up for debate though.

New Super Mario Bros Wii is a lot better.....Panosola

I thought you were trying to say it was overpriced in another thread just because it was 2D...

Also I doubt you played Little Big Planet.

[QUOTE="Panosola"]New Super Mario Bros Wii is a lot better.....hanslacher54

I thought you were trying to say it was overpriced in another thread just because it was 2D...

Also I doubt you played Little Big Planet.

:lol:

i remember that thread, it got pretty ugly

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Not really. NSMBWii is the better platformer hands down. The better game is up for debate though.

You make LBP platforming sound so deep when its shallow as hell and lacks any depth. Its kinda hilarious actually. Mario Wins hands down because its the tighter, more defined, better designed game with a far superior platforming mechanic than LBP could hope to have. The actual depth of LBP platforming (and aI mean to its core, not fluffed up crap) is lacking. As I continuously say, it plays worse than what I experienced onthe NES let alone holding its own against something like NSMBWii. Basically, competent platforming with levels built that allow all different types of runs from incredible speed runs, precision runs, star coin runs is better than whatever the hell you want to call LBP.

As far as entire packages LBP has the edge imo.

The levels are generally designed better.

Dick_Derringer

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]I guess if you want to go with pure platforming (that is, simply jumping from one platform to a different platform from beginning of stage to end), then MAYBE you could make an argument for Mario. LBP mixes so many more gameplay elements into the platforming; teamwork, puzzle solving, mini-races, different takes on platforming (such as hanging and swinging). Platforming with all kinds of other elements thrown in > simple platforming.

SilverChimera

You make LBP platforming sound so deep when its shallow as hell and lacks any depth. Its kinda hilarious actually. Mario Wins hands down because its the tighter, more defined, better designed game with a far superior platforming mechanic than LBP could hope to have. The actual depth of LBP platforming (and aI mean to its core, not fluffed up crap) is lacking. As I continuously say, it plays worse than what I experienced onthe NES let alone holding its own against something like NSMBWii. Basically, competent platforming with levels built that allow all different types of runs from incredible speed runs, precision runs, star coin runs is better than whatever the hell you want to call LBP.

As far as entire packages LBP has the edge imo.

No, I don't like the physics based system they implemented but it isn't an actual problem that I can attack just on that. My problem is LBPs core mechanic platforming just lacks depth. It lacks the ability to natually do things that make platformers like Sonic, Megaman (I suppose you can call megaman side scrolling though), Mario, Yoshi's Island, Donkey Kong, Spyro, Crash etc so well designed in its core philosphy. As such you are left with mechanics that don't lead to nearly anything as purely skilled based as those game, you lose a lot of the thrill of the levels due to the slowness and the pacing and ultimately, I just don't think the mechanic does platformers justice. Doesn't Help when I came into LBP with levels like Touch Fuzzy, Get Dizzy, Ultimate Castle perfect, green Hill Zone, Magma Cone, etc levels from all time greats. LBP is simply a game I think gets too much credit for not excuting nearly as well as platformers I would mark far lesser than they score to begin with.

[QUOTE="Panosola"]New Super Mario Bros Wii is a lot better.....yanbuco2712

Because?

LBP has better graphics, better sound(imo),4-player online and offline co op, thousands of online FREE levels, robustlevel creator etc.

I understand that it's a big System Wars no-no to talk against Mario and say that there is a single platformer better than Mario, but to hell with it. I feel like there has been some sort of propaganda that has been beaten into peoples heads, like: MARIO HAS THE BEST PLATFORMING EVER. DO NOT SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT MARIO. DO NOT FOR ANY REASON MENTION THE FACT THAT MARIO HAS SPAWNED SOME REALLY POOR SPIN OFFS. LOVE MARIO. PLAY MARIO. LIVE MARIO. Well, forget that. I have had more fun with LittleBigPlanet than any entry in Mario's history, and I have been playing Mario since I was a kid. NAPK1NS

Please, Mario gets loved because its good but if you have an issue, please, tell it to me in a thought out thorough manner because so far you have told us that we should appreciate LBP because you say so where as some have atleast outlined core problems that aren't "mario is old and not fresh therefore I don't think its better".

[QUOTE="Panosola"]New Super Mario Bros Wii is a lot better.....hanslacher54

I thought you were trying to say it was overpriced in another thread just because it was 2D...

Also I doubt you played Little Big Planet.

IMO, LBP easily crushes NSMBW.

The R1 grab mechanic adds a whole new dimension to the platforming.

Co-op is actually fun in LBP where it's just frustrating in NSMBW.

The levels are generally designed better.

Local AND online co-op

Going at a super high speed is always a rush of joy.

Sackboy is adorable.

Better graphics (duh)

A MUCH MUCH MUCH better soundtrack.

And that's not even mentioning the level creator

Dick_Derringer

Come on, they don't even compare. LBP started the 4 player co-op on one screen thing, and manages to have the same great platforming (minus the odd weighty feel) plus infinite levels forever. You could have been playing the game since day one and still not have seen everything, can't say the same for NSMB (though it is a fun game).

[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]I understand that it's a big System Wars no-no to talk against Mario and say that there is a single platformer better than Mario, but to hell with it. I feel like there has been some sort of propaganda that has been beaten into peoples heads, like: MARIO HAS THE BEST PLATFORMING EVER. DO NOT SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT MARIO. DO NOT FOR ANY REASON MENTION THE FACT THAT MARIO HAS SPAWNED SOME REALLY POOR SPIN OFFS. LOVE MARIO. PLAY MARIO. LIVE MARIO. Well, forget that. I have had more fun with LittleBigPlanet than any entry in Mario's history, and I have been playing Mario since I was a kid. ActicEdge

Please, Mario gets loved because its good but if you have an issue, please, tell it to me in a thought out thorough manner because so far you have told us that we should appreciate LBP because you say so where as some have atleast outlined core problems that aren't "mario is old and not fresh therefore I don't think its better".

[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]I understand that it's a big System Wars no-no to talk against Mario and say that there is a single platformer better than Mario, but to hell with it. I feel like there has been some sort of propaganda that has been beaten into peoples heads, like: MARIO HAS THE BEST PLATFORMING EVER. DO NOT SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT MARIO. DO NOT FOR ANY REASON MENTION THE FACT THAT MARIO HAS SPAWNED SOME REALLY POOR SPIN OFFS. LOVE MARIO. PLAY MARIO. LIVE MARIO. Well, forget that. I have had more fun with LittleBigPlanet than any entry in Mario's history, and I have been playing Mario since I was a kid. ActicEdge

Please, Mario gets loved because its good but if you have an issue, please, tell it to me in a thought out thorough manner because so far you have told us that we should appreciate LBP because you say so where as some have atleast outlined core problems that aren't "mario is old and not fresh therefore I don't think its better".

[QUOTE="hanslacher54"]

[QUOTE="Panosola"]

Did you hear that? That subtle but profound click? That was the sound of the thread ending. That's it. The debate is over. [QUOTE="yoshi_64"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]I understand that it's a big System Wars no-no to talk against Mario and say that there is a single platformer better than Mario, but to hell with it. I feel like there has been some sort of propaganda that has been beaten into peoples heads, like: MARIO HAS THE BEST PLATFORMING EVER. DO NOT SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT MARIO. DO NOT FOR ANY REASON MENTION THE FACT THAT MARIO HAS SPAWNED SOME REALLY POOR SPIN OFFS. LOVE MARIO. PLAY MARIO. LIVE MARIO. Well, forget that. I have had more fun with LittleBigPlanet than any entry in Mario's history, and I have been playing Mario since I was a kid. Panosola

Please, Mario gets loved because its good but if you have an issue, please, tell it to me in a thought out thorough manner because so far you have told us that we should appreciate LBP because you say so where as some have atleast outlined core problems that aren't "mario is old and not fresh therefore I don't think its better".

*DING!* There ya' go. Said it better than I could have. :P

[QUOTE="hanslacher54"]

[QUOTE="Panosola"]New Super Mario Bros Wii is a lot better.....Panosola

I thought you were trying to say it was overpriced in another thread just because it was 2D...

Also I doubt you played Little Big Planet.

LBP is much better. You can make NSMBW in LBP anyway.

Ive only played a bit of NSMBW, and played a lot of LBP. I have to say, NSMB is very fun.

Well I've only played New Super Mario Bros.(DS) and LittleBig Planet PSP(demo) so I don't really have a good opinion of it, but they're both pretty good platformers.

It is very simple

As a platformer, Mario destroys LBP.

Graphics - too close to care about

Multiplayer - One's Japanese-style (read: no online so you actually play with real people next to you), the other, Western (read: online since you have no friends to play with)

NSMBW wins because I have four Wii-motes but only one PS3 controller.

:lol: @ the poll for people not recognizing LBP. It's one of the most memorable and unique games ever made. NSMBW is just old ideas with a fresh coat of paint.NAPK1NS

I don't think anyone can argue that point ... 20 years later and we're doing the exact same stuff, and as long as they continue to make money and score well we're gonna have another 20 years of the same stuff ...

Is that a bad thing? I think so, but people will have different point of views.

[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]I understand that it's a big System Wars no-no to talk against Mario and say that there is a single platformer better than Mario, but to hell with it. I feel like there has been some sort of propaganda that has been beaten into peoples heads, like: MARIO HAS THE BEST PLATFORMING EVER. DO NOT SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT MARIO. DO NOT FOR ANY REASON MENTION THE FACT THAT MARIO HAS SPAWNED SOME REALLY POOR SPIN OFFS. LOVE MARIO. PLAY MARIO. LIVE MARIO. Well, forget that. I have had more fun with LittleBigPlanet than any entry in Mario's history, and I have been playing Mario since I was a kid. ActicEdge

Please, Mario gets loved because its good but if you have an issue, please, tell it to me in a thought out thorough manner because so far you have told us that we should appreciate LBP because you say so where as some have atleast outlined core problems that aren't "mario is old and not fresh therefore I don't think its better".

[QUOTE="Dick_Derringer"][QUOTE="Panosola"]New Super Mario Bros Wii is a lot better.....Panosola

It is very simple

As a platformer, Mario destroys LBP.

Graphics - too close to care about

Multiplayer - One's Japanese-style (read: no online so you actually play with real people next to you), the other, Western (read: online since you have no friends to play with)

TalesofRaGnArOk

LBP has both online and offline multiplayer though

Aside from creating levels, I always play local with my buddies :(

NSMBW wins because I have four Wii-motes but only one PS3 controller.

JLF1

[QUOTE="JLF1"]

NSMBW wins because I have four Wii-motes but only one PS3 controller.

ianuilliam

True but that's a difference experience.