Lemmings SSBB will outsell Halo 3 worldwide Believe it

[QUOTE="Grasshopper_12"][QUOTE="TheDarkDisciple"]

you really think that?

http://www.digg.com/nintendo/Analyst_U_S_Super_Mario_Galaxy_sales_a_borderline_failure

so where did you hear that SMG has 6 million copies sold now?

ApocalypseXIVV

according to VGchartz, Galaxy has sold 4.67 million worldwide....for all u kiddies out there ill put this is simple terms

If Mario, the king of the franchise, cannot outsell Halo, then how the heck is SSBB, a fighting game that is popular on the forums, but to the casuals is barely talked about compared to halo, going to outsell halo

SSBB will be a great game, ill buy it and love it, but please for the love of god sheep stop embarassing urselves

45,441

OK, and how much does SMG sell weekly?

129,995

I'm a Wii fan and a SSB fan, but I'm not sure this game will sell that well. Good, but not great. Similar to almost everything on the Wii. Not good when Wii Sports, Wii Fit and Wii Play are your top sellers.snackdaddy

So wait, Lemmings are claiming that Galaxy has no chance of outselling Halo even though

1. It came out later---yes it did.
2. It's on a popular console (unlike Halo 3)---what are you talking about? Halo 3 is on the Xbox 360.
3. Mario Games have tremendous legs--- whatever.
4. The last mario platformer sold over 10 million copies (more than any 360 game will ever sell)--- uhhh which game was that? Mario Sunshine? i don't think that even came close.
5. Mario games have universal appeal and aren't just popular with 13 year old american children--- ROFL. Wow, your ignorant AND stereotypical. SMG is aimed at 13 year old children.
6. The Wii is actually relevant in Japan and Europe--- and how does that matter?


Keep living in your fantasy world lemmings.

the_h_bomb

I think they said Halo 3 sold 8 million like 3 weeks ago.Patriot298

Over 8 million copies of Halo 3 shipped. And we know M$ likes to play shipped = sales.

[QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]So wait, Lemmings are claiming that Galaxy has no chance of outselling Halo even though

1. It came out later---yes it did.
2. It's on a popular console (unlike Halo 3)---what are you talking about? Halo 3 is on the Xbox 360.
3. Mario Games have tremendous legs--- whatever.
4. The last mario platformer sold over 10 million copies (more than any 360 game will ever sell)--- uhhh which game was that? Mario Sunshine? i don't think that even came close.
5. Mario games have universal appeal and aren't just popular with 13 year old american children--- ROFL. Wow, your ignorant AND stereotypical. SMG is aimed at 13 year old children.
6. The Wii is actually relevant in Japan and Europe--- and how does that matter?


Keep living in your fantasy world lemmings.

TheDarkDisciple

Wow, you have no clue do you?

A few things to note. The XBox 360 is a relative failure compared to the Wii as you can clearly see from the fact that the Wii is outselling it but a considerable margin EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD. Mario Galaxy has surpased Sunshine in Japan (and is looking likely to pass a million). Mario Galaxy is the fastest selling Mario game in the USA ever. the 360 barely exists in Japan and Europe. NSMB DS has sold more than any XBox or XBox 360 game will ever sell and anyone who play Halo 3 online for more than ten minutes knows exactly how "mature" The 360's audience is.

So mario Galaxy is far more popular than sunshine in at least 2 major markets and probably europe as well. Sunshine sold 5.5 million which is more than Halo 1 so we can expect Mario Galaxy to sell far more than that given its performance so far and the fact that the Wii is a lot more popular than the gamecube or 360.

[QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]So wait, Lemmings are claiming that Galaxy has no chance of outselling Halo even though

1. It came out later---yes it did.
2. It's on a popular console (unlike Halo 3)---what are you talking about? Halo 3 is on the Xbox 360.
3. Mario Games have tremendous legs--- whatever.
4. The last mario platformer sold over 10 million copies (more than any 360 game will ever sell)--- uhhh which game was that? Mario Sunshine? i don't think that even came close.
5. Mario games have universal appeal and aren't just popular with 13 year old american children--- ROFL. Wow, your ignorant AND stereotypical. SMG is aimed at 13 year old children.
6. The Wii is actually relevant in Japan and Europe--- and how does that matter?


Keep living in your fantasy world lemmings.

TheDarkDisciple

2. NSMB has sold 11 million copies so far. It came out in 2006.

3. Are you serious? :lol: The irony is delicious

4. It means more potenial customers...

Seriously, think your posts through better...

[QUOTE="TheDarkDisciple"][QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]So wait, Lemmings are claiming that Galaxy has no chance of outselling Halo even though

1. It came out later---yes it did.
2. It's on a popular console (unlike Halo 3)---what are you talking about? Halo 3 is on the Xbox 360.
3. Mario Games have tremendous legs--- whatever.
4. The last mario platformer sold over 10 million copies (more than any 360 game will ever sell)--- uhhh which game was that? Mario Sunshine? i don't think that even came close.
5. Mario games have universal appeal and aren't just popular with 13 year old american children--- ROFL. Wow, your ignorant AND stereotypical. SMG is aimed at 13 year old children.
6. The Wii is actually relevant in Japan and Europe--- and how does that matter?


Keep living in your fantasy world lemmings.

the_h_bomb

Wow, you have no clue do you?

A few things to note. The XBox 360 is a relative failure compared to the Wii as you can clearly see from the fact that the Wii is outselling it but a considerable margin EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD. Mario Galaxy has surpased Sunshine in Japan (and is looking likely to pass a million). Mario Galaxy is the fastest selling Mario game in the USA ever. the 360 barely exists in Japan and Europe. NSMB DS has sold more than any XBox or XBox 360 game will ever sell and anyone who play Halo 3 online for more than ten minutes knows exactly how "mature" The 360's audience is.

So mario Galaxy is far more popular than sunshine in at least 2 major markets and probably europe as well. Sunshine sold 5.5 million which is more than Halo 1 so we can expect Mario Galaxy to sell far more than that given its performance so far and the fact that the Wii is a lot more popular than the gamecube or 360.

Us Folk in Europe have the Wii for one reason,its pretty no one i know who has a Wii plays it as much as their PS3 or Xbox360. The Wii software sales show this quite nicely

[QUOTE="TheDarkDisciple"][QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]So wait, Lemmings are claiming that Galaxy has no chance of outselling Halo even though

1. It came out later---yes it did.
2. It's on a popular console (unlike Halo 3)---what are you talking about? Halo 3 is on the Xbox 360.
3. Mario Games have tremendous legs--- whatever.
4. The last mario platformer sold over 10 million copies (more than any 360 game will ever sell)--- uhhh which game was that? Mario Sunshine? i don't think that even came close.
5. Mario games have universal appeal and aren't just popular with 13 year old american children--- ROFL. Wow, your ignorant AND stereotypical. SMG is aimed at 13 year old children.
6. The Wii is actually relevant in Japan and Europe--- and how does that matter?


Keep living in your fantasy world lemmings.

the_h_bomb

Wow, you have no clue do you?

A few things to note. The XBox 360 is a relative failure compared to the Wii as you can clearly see from the fact that the Wii is outselling it but a considerable margin EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD. Mario Galaxy has surpased Sunshine in Japan (and is looking likely to pass a million). Mario Galaxy is the fastest selling Mario game in the USA ever. the 360 barely exists in Japan and Europe. NSMB DS has sold more than any XBox or XBox 360 game will ever sell and anyone who play Halo 3 online for more than ten minutes knows exactly how "mature" The 360's audience is.

So mario Galaxy is far more popular than sunshine in at least 2 major markets and probably europe as well. Sunshine sold 5.5 million which is more than Halo 1 so we can expect Mario Galaxy to sell far more than that given its performance so far and the fact that the Wii is a lot more popular than the gamecube or 360.

So the Wii is outselling the 360 everywhere in the world by a considerable margin? Is that your clever way of saying everywhere except the US? Because right now hardware sales are pretty close, and the 360 usually has better software sales. I don't even know what you're trying to say about Japan and Europe or w/e.

And Halo 3 has 8.1 copies sold, not shipped; go look it up. And what does SMG have? Like 2m, or 4m like someone else was saying? Yeah i don't think much is going to change. It has been selling pretty good but it's still behind CoD 4, and a little bit ahead of Halo 3 which was released a couple months before. I'll believe SMG can outsell Halo 3 when i see proof.

Btw, i'm going by real reports, none of that vgchartz stuff.

So the Wii is outselling the 360 everywhere in the world by a considerable margin? Is that your clever way of saying everywhere except the US? Because right now hardware sales are pretty close, and the 360 usually has better software sales. I don't even know what you're trying to say about Japan and Europe or w/e.

And Halo 3 has 8.1 copies sold, not shipped; go look it up. And what does SMG have? Like 2m, or 4m like someone else was saying? Yeah i don't think much is going to change. It has been selling pretty good but it's still behind CoD 4, and a little bit ahead of Halo 3 which was released a couple months before. I'll believe SMG can outsell Halo 3 when i see proof.

Btw, i'm going by real reports, none of that vgchartz stuff.

TheDarkDisciple

I think Wii Sports has around 10 million. SSBB is a much better game to bundle, Halo 3 will be outsold. Just look at the Wii user base, it will happen eventually. Halo 3 is a fad, and sales have died down very quickly. I don't see the point in even denying that a game like this won't get outsold by a game in a genre with much less competition.

So the Wii is outselling the 360 everywhere in the world by a considerable margin? Is that your clever way of saying everywhere except the US? Because right now hardware sales are pretty close, and the 360 usually has better software sales. I don't even know what you're trying to say about Japan and Europe or w/e.

TheDarkDisciple

Nope, Wii is absolutely killing the 360 in the USA as well. It's not "close". But the 360 does have a fantastic attach rate

And Halo 3 has 8.1 copies sold, not shipped; go look it up. And what does SMG have? Like 2m, or 4m like someone else was saying? Yeah i don't think much is going to change. It has been selling pretty good but it's still behind CoD 4, and a little bit ahead of Halo 3 which was released a couple months before. I'll believe SMG can outsell Halo 3 when i see proof.

Btw, i'm going by real reports, none of that vgchartz stuff.

TheDarkDisciple

I have looked it up. the number is "sold to retailers" which means shipped, and as i have already pointed out Galaxy is kicking Sunshine's ass in at least two out of three of the major territiories (sunshine sold 6.5 million). So Galaxy looks as if it'l sell more that 6.5 million, Halo 3 has shipped 8 milllion. It's not hard to see how Galaxy could Pass Halo 3 quite easily

Who wants to buy SSBB, its just some kiddie wanna be fighting game and will never outsell Halo 3.CrimsonBlade360

On topic: SSBM has sold over 8 million on a "failure of a system", whereas Halo 2 selled roughly the same on a not-so-failure of a system. Imagine how things will go on the Wii, which is far from a failure and has sold more than the X-Box 360. The 360 has been out a year long as well.

[QUOTE="CrimsonBlade360"]Who wants to buy SSBB, its just some kiddie wanna be fighting game and will never outsell Halo 3.Demon-Kirby

On topic: SSBM has sold over 8 million on a "failure of a system", whereas Halo 2 selled roughly the same on a not-so-failure of a system. Imagine how things will go on the Wii, which is far from a failure and has sold more than the X-Box 360. The 360 has been out a year long as well.

So the Wii is outselling the 360 everywhere in the world by a considerable margin? Is that your clever way of saying everywhere except the US? Because right now hardware sales are pretty close, and the 360 usually has better software sales. I don't even know what you're trying to say about Japan and Europe or w/e.

And Halo 3 has 8.1 copies sold, not shipped; go look it up. And what does SMG have? Like 2m, or 4m like someone else was saying? Yeah i don't think much is going to change. It has been selling pretty good but it's still behind CoD 4, and a little bit ahead of Halo 3 which was released a couple months before. I'll believe SMG can outsell Halo 3 when i see proof.

Btw, i'm going by real reports, none of that vgchartz stuff.

TheDarkDisciple

The hardware margin is not close. Once the Americas started receiving larger shipments (diverted units from Japan), the Wii was getting huge numbers. During the last 3 months of the year, I'd be willing to wager that the Wii outsold the 360 by over 1 million units in NA. It wasn't even close.

8.1 million copies is shipped. MS has never and will never release sales numbers because they don't sell to consumers. They sell to retailers. If you go look at any quarterly MS report that has ever been published, you will find the word "shipped" put along with any number. Remember when they said they "sold" 17.7 million 360's? That was "shipped." Remember the 10.4 million "sold" at the end of last year? That was "shipped." If you don't believe me, look it up in MS's investor reports. They post them every quarter, and every quarter, it's exactly the same story. They ONLY release shipment numbers.

What he's trying to say about Japan and Europe is that the Wii absolutely DESTROYS the 360 in those regions, hardware and software.

I think Wii Sports has around 10 million. SSBB is a much better game to bundle, Halo 3 will be outsold. Just look at the Wii user base, it will happen eventually. Halo 3 is a fad, and sales have died down very quickly. I don't see the point in even denying that a game like this won't get outsold by a game in a genre with much less competition.

Adrian_Cloud

Wii Sports is at 17 million. Wii Play is at 10 million.

I don't think SSBB will outsell Halo 3 in the near future.

Overall in a few years it probably will but I don't think it will come close in the first month.

Whether or not SSBB outsells Halo 3 is irrelevant. Just watching all the Lems squirm and cry that their precious Halo 3 is being threatened is entertainment enough.

Oh, and SSBB will outsell Halo 3. Im looking forward to countless threads of "There are more Wiis then 360s sold, what do you expect Sheep?" or "Halo 3 is still a better game because I dont own a Wii because I cant find a Wii"

Oh no! If SSBB outsells Halo 3, I won't enjoy it as much!

Waaaaahhh!

Seriously, get over it. What difference does it make. It's not liek Halo will be any less fun or SSBB will be any more fun just because of sales.

SSBM sold 6 million, not 8. >_>

@MGamer: If you're only counting games released after Halo 3, then you might be right. If you mean all time, then you're dead wrong.

ha

the only thing that could possibly outsell halo 3 is a new pokemon game that doesn't suck.

[QUOTE="TheDarkDisciple"]

So the Wii is outselling the 360 everywhere in the world by a considerable margin? Is that your clever way of saying everywhere except the US? Because right now hardware sales are pretty close, and the 360 usually has better software sales. I don't even know what you're trying to say about Japan and Europe or w/e.

the_h_bomb

Nope, Wii is absolutely killing the 360 in the USA as well. It's not "close". But the 360 does have a fantastic attach rate

Actually, the X360 has sold more units in the U.S. compared to the Wii.

http://www.vgchartz.com/

And Halo 3 has 8.1 copies sold, not shipped; go look it up. And what does SMG have? Like 2m, or 4m like someone else was saying? Yeah i don't think much is going to change. It has been selling pretty good but it's still behind CoD 4, and a little bit ahead of Halo 3 which was released a couple months before. I'll believe SMG can outsell Halo 3 when i see proof.

Btw, i'm going by real reports, none of that vgchartz stuff.

TheDarkDisciple

I have looked it up. the number is "sold to retailers" which means shipped, and as i have already pointed out Galaxy is kicking Sunshine's ass in at least two out of three of the major territiories (sunshine sold 6.5 million). So Galaxy looks as if it'l sell more that 6.5 million, Halo 3 has shipped 8 milllion. It's not hard to see how Galaxy could Pass Halo 3 quite easily

Actually, Sunshine sold 5.91 million and SSBM sold 6.58 million. Infact the highest selling game on the GC is Mario Kart at 6.60 million. Compare that to Halo 2 which sold 8.45 million. Unless the Wii install base doubles that of the X360, Mario Galaxy won't be surpassing Halo 3 sales numbers.

http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=GC&publisher=&sort=Total

http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=XB&publisher=&sort=Total

First it was ........ Metroid is going to sell more units than Bioshock. That didn't happen. Now its Mario vs Halo. Its the same tune over again but with the same result. Don't be confused...... GOTY doesn't mean most sold.

Actually, the X360 has sold more units in the U.S. compared to the Wii.

http://www.vgchartz.com/

RaveRabbid

I know. But the Wii is still killing the 360

Actually, Sunshine sold 5.91 million and SSBM sold 6.58 million. Infact the highest selling game on the GC is Mario Kart at 6.60 million. Compare that to Halo 2 which sold 8.45 million. Unless the Wii install base doubles that of the X360, Mario Galaxy won't be surpassing Halo 3 sales numbers.

http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=GC&publisher=&sort=Total

http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=XB&publisher=&sort=Total

First it was ........ Metroid is going to sell more units than Bioshock. That didn't happen. Now its Mario vs Halo. Its the same tune over again but with the same result. Don't be confused...... GOTY doesn't mean most sold.

TheDarkDisciple

You're right, i must have got them mixed up and why do you think that the Wii wont double the 360's userbase? It's 3 million ahead after a year even with the 360's headstart. By the end of the year it should have more than doubled the 360's hardware sales quite easily given the 360's crappy lineup this year.

As for Metroid Prime 3 the eprception is that it was a bomb, but it's still only 500k behind Bioshock.

ha

the only thing that could possibly outsell halo 3 is a new pokemon game that doesn't suck.

mistervengeance

There have been a few games just in the past couple of years that have sold more than Halo 3 has sold or will ever sell. Halo is not the golden standard for sales. It's not even close to some other things, such as Nintendogs or Pokemon (btw, D/P has sold twice as much as Halo 3)

Halo 3 will have sold about 10 million before SSBB is even released. In the long run it might be close but I think it might just surpass Halo 3 just.chocolate1325

No it won't. By all indications, the sales numbers for H3 should be just over 6 million. And it's not selling at a very high rate at all, at this point. To reach 10 million, H3 is going to need to be a Platinum Hit, if it can ever reach 10 million at all. I think it will get that plateau eventually, but it's not going to happen any time this year.

I don't see it happening. Halo 3 has sold over 8 million since September and it's still going. SSBM has always been popular, but I dont know if its popularity can topple that of Halo 3.

I don't see it happening. Halo 3 has sold over 8 million since September and it's still going. SSBM has always been popular, but I dont know if its popularity can topple that of Halo 3.

The_Game21x

Why does EVERYONE seem to believe this? MS releases SHIPMENT NUMBERS. That's all they have ever released. Go to their website for quarterly investor reports, if you don't believe me. They only ever release SHIPMENT numbers. They don't sell to consumers. They sell to retailers, and those numbers are much easier for them to track. By all indications, H3 is grossly overstocked. It will eventually reach 8 million, but it is not there yet. For all we know, it might not even reach 8 million by the end of the year.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

I don't see it happening. Halo 3 has sold over 8 million since September and it's still going. SSBM has always been popular, but I dont know if its popularity can topple that of Halo 3.

i_like_pizza

Why does EVERYONE seem to believe this? MS releases SHIPMENT NUMBERS. That's all they have ever released. Go to their website for quarterly investor reports, if you don't believe me. They only ever release SHIPMENT numbers. They don't sell to consumers. They sell to retailers, and those numbers are much easier for them to track. By all indications, H3 is grossly overstocked. It will eventually reach 8 million, but it is not there yet. For all we know, it might not even reach 8 million by the end of the year.

I said sold instead of shipped. Oops. :roll:

As far as Halo 3 being grossly overstocked, how exactly would you know that? Have there been any reports that MS has stuffed the retail channels to meet that figure? I know those claims came out last year in reference to the 360 console but noe as far as Halo 3 or...any other game for that matter. I'd have to see some kind of proof before I believed MS did the same thing here.

So, yeah, I stand by my earlier claim.

[QUOTE="smack_masta"]Of course it will, Pokemon Diamond outsold Halo 3. Its just the numbers Halo produced on launch day that were amazing.Ninjaogta

Pokemon Diamond has been out twice as long as Halo 3. Of course it sold more than it. If Halo 3 had been out as long as Diamond, it would have sold much, much more than it. But Halo 3 is the fastest selling entertainment product in history. It had a $10 million advertising campaign. SSBB hasn't got a chance in hell of outselling it, neither on day one nor in the long run. Just look how poorly SMG sold and you've got an idea of how SSBB will do.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]It sounds like lems and sheep were onto something when they started the "Wii60" thing. Now they get to have both, while cows lose out once again. flashattackfina

u left out ur mythical Power PC. All fakeboys have that too.

I doubt it. We're talking about the most overrated franchise of all time here. Only GTA IV would stand a chance imo.NWA_31

Despite the fact that there have been a handful of games in the past two years that have outsold Halo 3? and two of them are on the Wii? Despite that fact?

Halo 3, while a high seller, is not the golden standard for sales. People need to understand this. SMG has a great shot of selling more, and SSBB and Mario Kart have a great chance as well. Wii Fit is almost guaranteed to sell more than H3. That's three Wii games that are due out within 6 months of each other outselling H3, possibly.

[QUOTE="NWA_31"]I doubt it. We're talking about the most overrated franchise of all time here. Only GTA IV would stand a chance imo.i_like_pizza

Despite the fact that there have been a handful of games in the past two years that have outsold Halo 3? and two of them are on the Wii? Despite that fact?

Halo 3, while a high seller, is not the golden standard for sales. People need to understand this. SMG has a great shot of selling more, and SSBB and Mario Kart have a great chance as well. Wii Fit is almost guaranteed to sell more than H3. That's three Wii games that are due out within 6 months of each other outselling H3, possibly.

I wasn't aware that 2 Wii games have outsold Halo 3. What are they ?

[QUOTE="i_like_pizza"]

[QUOTE="NWA_31"]I doubt it. We're talking about the most overrated franchise of all time here. Only GTA IV would stand a chance imo.NWA_31

Despite the fact that there have been a handful of games in the past two years that have outsold Halo 3? and two of them are on the Wii? Despite that fact?

Halo 3, while a high seller, is not the golden standard for sales. People need to understand this. SMG has a great shot of selling more, and SSBB and Mario Kart have a great chance as well. Wii Fit is almost guaranteed to sell more than H3. That's three Wii games that are due out within 6 months of each other outselling H3, possibly.

I wasn't aware that 2 Wii games have outsold Halo 3. What are they ?

Wii sports (which, despite being packed in in 2 major regions still has an attach rate of abot .5 in the region it isn't, so the argument that it's a packed-in game doesn't really work), and Wii Play.

You sheep need to stop hyping this game before you all get burned...krp008

The thing with the hype for most sheep is that they don't care what score the game gets, as long as it delivers on the fun that its predecessors provided.

[QUOTE="krp008"]You sheep need to stop hyping this game before you all get burned...i_like_pizza

The thing with the hype for most sheep is that they don't care what score the game gets, as long as it delivers on the fun that its predecessors provided.

Thats why there's a million threads stating that this game will get AAAA and sell more than Halo 3?

[QUOTE="i_like_pizza"]

[QUOTE="krp008"]You sheep need to stop hyping this game before you all get burned...krp008

The thing with the hype for most sheep is that they don't care what score the game gets, as long as it delivers on the fun that its predecessors provided.

Thats why there's a million threads stating that this game will get AAAA and sell more than Halo 3?

That's why there's a lot more sheep than just the ones who start the threads.

Wii sports (which, despite being packed in in 2 major regions still has an attach rate of abot .5 in the region it isn't, so the argument that it's a packed-in game doesn't really work), and Wii Play.i_like_pizza

But both of them were released way before Halo 3 came out and are exactly the type of games casuals like to buy. The whole point of this thread is that SSBB will outsell Halo 3, even tough it comes out in March and is a "hardcore" game.