Lens of truth mass effect 2 analysis

Loving the justifications for paying full price for a year old game that is exactly the same as the cheaper 360 version and inferior to the even cheaper PC version.

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"][QUOTE="XBOXSTRONG"] PS3 Global average FPS: 29.23 360 Global average FPS: 29.14 again, not anything noticeablecainetao11

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] The PS3 version as far as I´m aware doesn´t have vsync on,wich sometimes makes it more unstable than the 360 version. It can get a better framerate sometimes and other times a lot worse.

Arach666

the ps3 version has no screen tearing what so ever (v-sync is on). But the 360 version has very little tearing anyways.

global percent of torn frames -

ps3 - 0.00

xbox 360 - 0.32

[QUOTE="cainetao11"][QUOTE="TintedEyes"] still, cant argue that it is higherTintedEyes

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]

[QUOTE="cainetao11"] Nor that you read a comic to start that version. No comparison, PC/360 version.XBOXSTRONG

the interactive comic looks pretty horrible btw :P

better than nothing I suppose.

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

the ps3 version has no screen tearing what so ever (v-sync is on). But the 360 version has very little tearing anyways.

theuncharted34

global percent of torn frames -

ps3 - 0.00

xbox 360 - 0.32

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

the ps3 version has no screen tearing what so ever (v-sync is on). But the 360 version has very little tearing anyways.

theuncharted34

global percent of torn frames -

ps3 - 0.00

xbox 360 - 0.32

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] It has? I just mentioned it because Jeff Gerstmann said it didn´t had it on in the ME2 QL.Arach666

global percent of torn frames -

ps3 - 0.00

xbox 360 - 0.32

yep. performance is equal.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] It has? I just mentioned it because Jeff Gerstmann said it didn´t had it on in the ME2 QL.broken_ops

global percent of torn frames -

ps3 - 0.00

xbox 360 - 0.32

did I say it was noticable? lol

I find it hilarious how some people here would pay an extra $15 because its on 'one disc'

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] The PS3 version as far as I´m aware doesn´t have vsync on,wich sometimes makes it more unstable than the 360 version. It can get a better framerate sometimes and other times a lot worse.

Arach666

the ps3 version has no screen tearing what so ever (v-sync is on). But the 360 version has very little tearing anyways.

The demo didnt have it, but I think I read on DF that the final game does have V-sync. Anyways from the pics on LoT it looks like a tie to me, I like the look of the PS3 version better. The 360 one just looks too dark, and the price is much better on the PC and 360.

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

global percent of torn frames -

ps3 - 0.00

xbox 360 - 0.32

theuncharted34

yep. performance is equal.

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

the ps3 version has no screen tearing what so ever (v-sync is on). But the 360 version has very little tearing anyways.

GTSaiyanjin2

The demo didnt have it, but I think I read on DF that the final game does have V-sync. Anyways from the pics on LoT it looks like a tie to me, I like the look of the PS3 version better. The 360 one just looks too dark, and the price is much better on the PC and 360.

[QUOTE="broken_ops"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

global percent of torn frames -

ps3 - 0.00

xbox 360 - 0.32

theuncharted34

did I say it was noticable? lol

Bioware are full of baloney when they say it's using the Mass Effect 3 engine. If it were using a new engine they'd have had to rebuild the entire game from scratch. Instead they've made a couple of tweaks to the same old engine and for whatever reason have decided to call it 'the Mass Effect 3 engine' when it CLEARLY isn't. Ninja-Hippo

Cows were tricked by Bioware so they would buy the game. And now that reviews have come out and the truth has been revealed, they're tricking themselves.

Keep the DC coming.

Bioware are full of baloney when they say it's using the Mass Effect 3 engine. If it were using a new engine they'd have had to rebuild the entire game from scratch. Instead they've made a couple of tweaks to the same old engine and for whatever reason have decided to call it 'the Mass Effect 3 engine' when it CLEARLY isn't. Ninja-Hippo

Who gives a flying foster's home for imaginary children?mrmusicman247

Don't you dare make fun of Foster's Home for Imaginary FRIENDS!! :x

Good for the PS3 owners as they won't have to worry about it being inferior to the 360 version.

So same graphics and all the dlc, pretty easy to see its the best console versionTintedEyes

Let's compare.

Xbox 360:

• Two disks; must disk swap twice during the 25-30 hour game.
• Negligible Better performance. (according to Digital Foundry)
• Negligible Better graphics. (according to Digital Foundry)
• No DLC on disks.
• DLC available for download on XBL.
• Can import ME1 character.
• Total Cost with DLC: $44 ($20 for original game, and $24 for the DLC)

PS3:

• One Disk; 5.2GB mandatory install. Wait time aprox. 30 minutes, though results will vary from user to user.
• DLC included on disk.
• No importing of ME1 characters; has 15 minute comic to condense a 30 hour game.
• Total Cost: $60

Conclusion:

• Both versions are damn near identical.
• Xbox 360 version is cheaper.

Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

Let's compare.

Xbox 360:

• Two disks; must disk swap twice during the 25-30 hour game.
• Negligible Better performance. (according to Digital Foundry)
• Negligible Better graphics. (according to Digital Foundry)
• No DLC on disks.
• DLC available for download on XBL.
• Can import ME1 character.
• Total Cost with DLC: $44 ($20 for original game, and $24 for the DLC)

PS3:

• One Disk; 5.2GB mandatory install. Wait time aprox. 30 minutes, though results will vary from user to user.
• DLC included on disk.
• No importing of ME1 characters; has 15 minute comic to condense a 30 hour game.
• Total Cost: $60

Conclusion:

• Both versions are damn near identical.
• Xbox 360 version is cheaper.

WilliamRLBaker

When is this comic coming? Because I haven't seen any more info about it.

This is also false.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

Let's compare.

Xbox 360:

• Two disks; must disk swap twice during the 25-30 hour game.
• Negligible Better performance. (according to Digital Foundry)
• Negligible Better graphics. (according to Digital Foundry)
• No DLC on disks.
• DLC available for download on XBL.
• Can import ME1 character.
• Total Cost with DLC: $44 ($20 for original game, and $24 for the DLC)

PS3:

• One Disk; 5.2GB mandatory install. Wait time aprox. 30 minutes, though results will vary from user to user.
• DLC included on disk.
• No importing of ME1 characters; has 15 minute comic to condense a 30 hour game.
• Total Cost: $60

Conclusion:

• Both versions are damn near identical.
• Xbox 360 version is cheaper.

WilliamRLBaker

the interactive comic looks pretty horrible btw :P

better than nothing I suppose.

theuncharted34

Not when Bioware is doing this.

http://www.swtor.com/info/holonet/timeline

[QUOTE="broken_ops"][QUOTE="TintedEyes"]So same graphics and all the dlc, pretty easy to see its the best console versionTintedEyes

So let me see if I understand properly. Lemmings are claiming ownage cause they are equal and its cheaper for them, cows are claiming ownage cause its all on 1 disc, hermits(thats pc guys right?) are sitting back laughing at them both, and true gamers are just glad the game can be enjoyed by everyone... am I close? I dont see many cows here, I guess they are to busy playing games or working overtime to pay for all those games coming out soon( :P )

On a side note, anyone else impressed they actually made a game on the ue3 engine equal on both sides?

Just a question: I noticed someone on youtube mentioning that since the cerebrus network wasn´t on at that time he couldn´t download the comic.

So,in order to get that comic,you have to be online? What about the people that don´t have the console online,they don´t get the comic then?

I´m just mentioning that because most people I know around here never connected the PS3 online and some don´t even have internet...that must be a bummer to those guys if they get ME2 on the PS3...

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

Let's compare.

Xbox 360:

• Two disks; must disk swap twice during the 25-30 hour game.
• Negligible Better performance. (according to Digital Foundry)
• Negligible Better graphics. (according to Digital Foundry)
• No DLC on disks.
• DLC available for download on XBL.
• Can import ME1 character.
• Total Cost with DLC: $44 ($20 for original game, and $24 for the DLC)

PS3:

• One Disk; 5.2GB mandatory install. Wait time aprox. 30 minutes, though results will vary from user to user.
• DLC included on disk.
• No importing of ME1 characters; has 15 minute comic to condense a 30 hour game.
• Total Cost: $60

Conclusion:

• Both versions are damn near identical.
• Xbox 360 version is cheaper.

FIipMode

When is this comic coming? Because I haven't seen any more info about it.

This is also false.

Just a question: I noticed someone on youtube mentioning that since the cerebrus network wasn´t on at that time he couldn´t download the comic.

So,in order to get that comic,you have to be online? What about the people that don´t have the console online,they don´t get the comic then?

I´m just mentioning that because most people I know around here never connected the PS3 online and some don´t even have internet...that must be a bummer to those guys if they get ME2 on the PS3...

Just a question: I noticed someone on youtube mentioning that since the cerebrus network wasn´t on at that time he couldn´t download the comic.

So,in order to get that comic,you have to be online? What about the people that don´t have the console online,they don´t get the comic then?

I´m just mentioning that because most people I know around here never connected the PS3 online and some don´t even have internet...that must be a bummer to those guys if they get ME2 on the PS3...

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] quick edit for ya the 360 version gets the comic as well and if you install the 2nd disc you dont need to swap discs.

WilliamRLBaker

When is this comic coming? Because I haven't seen any more info about it.

This is also false.

Alright, I'll get on downloading that then.

As for Lens they must have been wrong on that then, Bioware themselves said that even with an install, disc switching needs to happen.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"]

Why does it say the 360 version does 1080p but not the ps3 version? If it means upscaling, don't both consoles upscale?

soulitane

it doesn't upscale on the ps3 version.

Every xbox 360 game upscales to 1080p automatically. This isn't the case with ps3 games, they have to use up a bit of performance to get it upscaled. Which is why alot of developers just stick to native :)

PS3 still looked better. Not worth the extra price though. PC > PS3 > 360 is how I see it for this.

I still don't get how it's a tie.

Equal versions don't:

• Lack importing characters from the first game (No, a comic does not substitute a 30 hour RPG)
• Cost more $$$ for the same content

Some of the images look better on the 360, others on the PS3. I'm happy that people who only own a PS3 could finally go to the store and pick this game up, it's a great game and it shouldn't be missed by anybody. If the PS3 version came out a year ago with ME1 as DLC I would have bought it over the 360 version due to the fact you don't need to swap discs but as it stands the comic looks to be a crappy substitute for the first game and I like the import feature the 360 version has.

I think the ME3 comparisions will hold more relevence because this game came out a year later on the PS3 so obviously it's going to look better. Until then it's pretty useless to argue over.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

Let's compare.

Xbox 360:

• Two disks; must disk swap twice during the 25-30 hour game.
• Negligible Better performance. (according to Digital Foundry)
• Negligible Better graphics. (according to Digital Foundry)
• No DLC on disks.
• DLC available for download on XBL.
• Can import ME1 character.
• Total Cost with DLC: $44 ($20 for original game, and $24 for the DLC)

PS3:

• One Disk; 5.2GB mandatory install. Wait time aprox. 30 minutes, though results will vary from user to user.
• DLC included on disk.
• No importing of ME1 characters; has 15 minute comic to condense a 30 hour game.
• Total Cost: $60

Conclusion:

• Both versions are damn near identical.
• Xbox 360 version is cheaper.

PS3 still looked better. Not worth the extra price though. PC > PS3 > 360 is how I see it for this.

ChubbyGuy40

So the PS3 and 360 versions are a tie for 2nd place, the best version of course being on the PC.

So same graphics and all the dlc, pretty easy to see its the best console versionTintedEyes

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]So same graphics and all the dlc, pretty easy to see its the best console versiondommeus

Tbh I really am not sure why they marked the game down for a couple of bugs when it had all the dlc thrown in from the get go. Its the same game is it not, surely it should get the same score? Hasn't it already had a patch for the bug in the DLC too?