LETS END THIS NOW: Killzone 2 > Halo 3

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#51 SwigGY12
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Pie > Cake. Its a fact.
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#52 Power_47
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Pie > Cake. Its a fact.SwigGY12

Lol fakeboy

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#53 Not-A-Stalker
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[QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"]

No, thats not my logic. You're putting words in my mouth. :|

Liberation was apart of the Killzone canon. It is not a spin off or anything, but an actual sequel to Killzone. Thus, Guerilla refers to Liberation as Killzone 2.

GTA VC and SA on the otherhand, were spin offs.

Ninja-Vox

You're talking absolute nonsense. Vice City was the fully-fledged sequel to GTAIII. San Andreas was the sequel to Vice City. And GTAIV is the sequel to San Andreas. None of them are "spin-offs". A spin-off is smaller project spawned from a larger one.

GTA on the PSP could be described as a spin-off. And Liberation on the PSP, is a spin-off. Simple as that. It's killzone, watered down to something playable on a handheld.

I didn't mean spin off as what you described, I meant that they weren't actual sequels. Which they aren't. GTA, GTA2 and GTA3 are the real games in the GTA story. London, Vice City, San Andreas and all them, aren't canon sequels. Though I guess you can say since none of the GTA games tie together there are no canon sequels, but you get what I'm saying.

Liberation IS a canon sequel. It's not a spin off.

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Pie > Cake. Its a fact.SwigGY12

Not true. Its only a fact if you capitalize all the letters in the word fact. Like this: FACT

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#55 byrofish
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Okay, Halo 1 and Halo 2 may have sold loads and be critically acclaimed but...it's the unlucky number 3. Have you been to the cinema recently? Shrek 3. Spiderman 3. Pirates 3. However, sequels are always sucsesful - Godfather 2, Empire Strikes Back, Toy Story 2...

ScrunchMuppet

But... ...Super Mario Bros 3

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#56 deepdreamer256
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What has Halo 3 shown thus far thats been bad?Bansheesdie
Lack of innovation in my opinion.
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#57 Daytona_178
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Yeah, you cant argue with that logic! :?
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#58 WeAreToast
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[QUOTE="ScrunchMuppet"]

Okay, Halo 1 and Halo 2 may have sold loads and be critically acclaimed but...it's the unlucky number 3. Have you been to the cinema recently? Shrek 3. Spiderman 3. Pirates 3. However, sequels are always sucsesful - Godfather 2, Empire Strikes Back, Toy Story 2...

byrofish

But... ...Super Mario Bros 3

Oh yeah, that...

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#59 lowe0
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Show me a mediocre movie that had a good sequel.  Just one.
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#60 Not-A-Stalker
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Show me a mediocre movie that had a good sequel. Just one.lowe0

Pitch Black.

Pitch Black was blah, but the Chronicles of Riddick was pure awesomeness.

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#61 jessesalinas
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[QUOTE="lowe0"]Show me a mediocre movie that had a good sequel. Just one.Not-A-Stalker

Pitch Black.

Pitch Black was blah, but the Chronicles of Riddick was pure awesomeness.

I liked Pitch Black :cry:

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#62 Not-A-Stalker
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[QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]Show me a mediocre movie that had a good sequel. Just one.jessesalinas

Pitch Black.

Pitch Black was blah, but the Chronicles of Riddick was pure awesomeness.

I liked Pitch Black :cry:

I don't know.. Some people did like it, but I thought it was kind of... I don't know, just blah. Chronicles of Riddick was much better.

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#63 jessesalinas
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[QUOTE="jessesalinas"][QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]Show me a mediocre movie that had a good sequel. Just one.Not-A-Stalker

Pitch Black.

Pitch Black was blah, but the Chronicles of Riddick was pure awesomeness.

I liked Pitch Black :cry:

I don't know.. Some people did like it, but I thought it was kind of... I don't know, just blah. Chronicles of Riddick was much better.

of course CoR was Better. ;) i enjoyed that movie as well.

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#64 mattyomo99
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i think halo3 will be a great game for halo fans, but i dont think its going to appeal to a new crowd.

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#65 MaTT2011
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And system wars hits a new low.....

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#66 rey06
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i cant believe all it ends upwas talking bout movie instead of killzone 2>Halo 3 *its TC's Fault*
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#67 mattyomo99
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IM NOT A KILLZONE FAN BTW. Im a cow but killzone1 sucked and i dont have high hopes for the sequal

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#68 Wanderer5
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First of all At World's End is great. Also is The Two Towers better then Return of the King?And isn't Killzone PS3 suppose to be Killzone 3?

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#69 Good_sk8er
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I think Killzone 2 will do better than Halo 3 because Halo is the biggest title for Microsoft so they have a whole lot to live up to. Killzone one wasn't very good at all, so people might not expect it to be very good. When it comes out it could surprise alot of people. We'll only know for sure when the games come out.

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#70 waynehead895
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By your logic Xbox second console > than the PS3. :lol:
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... Wow. :lol:Not-A-Stalker
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#72 GazzaB
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By your logic Xbox second console > than the PS3. :lol:waynehead895

:lol:TCHBO

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#73 -L-U-I-S-
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Okay, Halo 1 and Halo 2 may have sold loads and be critically acclaimed but...it's the unlucky number 3. Have you been to the cinema recently? Shrek 3. Spiderman 3. Pirates 3. However, sequels are always sucsesful - Godfather 2, Empire Strikes Back, Toy Story 2...

So maybe the film industry isnt a perfect parallel but its certinally accurate. Killzone 2 means that the developers can learn from KIllzone 1s mistakes and make a better game, whereas Halo 3 developers will become complacent and run out of ideas.

My money is on Killzone 2.

ScrunchMuppet

Spidey 3 and Pirates 3 bad? Wow...

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#74 svetzenlether
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Okay, Halo 1 and Halo 2 may have sold loads and be critically acclaimed but...it's the unlucky number 3. Have you been to the cinema recently? Shrek 3. Spiderman 3. Pirates 3. However, sequels are always sucsesful - Godfather 2, Empire Strikes Back, Toy Story 2...

So maybe the film industry isnt a perfect parallel but its certinally accurate. Killzone 2 means that the developers can learn from KIllzone 1s mistakes and make a better game, whereas Halo 3 developers will become complacent and run out of ideas.

My money is on Killzone 2.

ScrunchMuppet

Who the hell cares??? Half Life 2 still destroys both games.

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#75 ZinkOxide
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lol. The sequel to a 6.9 game, of which we have seen NO gameplay video, is going to beat out the final installment of a legendary FPS that nearly invented theonline FPS scene for Microsoft and of which we've played an awesome multiplayer beta?

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[QUOTE="ScrunchMuppet"]

Okay, Halo 1 and Halo 2 may have sold loads and be critically acclaimed but...it's the unlucky number 3. Have you been to the cinema recently? Shrek 3. Spiderman 3. Pirates 3. However, sequels are always sucsesful - Godfather 2, Empire Strikes Back, Toy Story 2...

So maybe the film industry isnt a perfect parallel but its certinally accurate. Killzone 2 means that the developers can learn from KIllzone 1s mistakes and make a better game, whereas Halo 3 developers will become complacent and run out of ideas.

My money is on Killzone 2.

svetzenlether

Who the hell cares??? Half Life 2 still destroys both games.

wow. who cares

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#77 organic_machine
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*Looks at TC*

Hey, NextGenNow has an alt account!!! Awesome!!! :P

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#78 Squall_Griver
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... Wow. :lol:Not-A-Stalker
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#79 Video_Game_King
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Wow, cows have sunk to a new low. The Halo Killer shot itself in the foot right out of the gates. And it's been stumbling on a decapitated limb ever since.
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#80 NorthlandMan
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What the fork?
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#81 ff7cloudking
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Okay, Halo 1 and Halo 2 may have sold loads and be critically acclaimed but...it's the unlucky number 3. Have you been to the cinema recently? Shrek 3. Spiderman 3. Pirates 3. However, sequels are always sucsesful - Godfather 2, Empire Strikes Back, Toy Story 2...

So maybe the film industry isnt a perfect parallel but its certinally accurate. Killzone 2 means that the developers can learn from KIllzone 1s mistakes and make a better game, whereas Halo 3 developers will become complacent and run out of ideas.

My money is on Killzone 2.

ScrunchMuppet

Have u seen pirates 3? That movie was awesome.

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#82 kcpp2b
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LOL!! Dude, you do realize spider man 3 broke like... all the records for sales?ko_threat

Not all the records no but many records for opening weekend and many others. Plus it beat Spiderman and Spiderman 2 in sales and will probably wind up being number 9 or 8 all time when it stops it's theatrical run.

Pirates 3 is also on it's way to make probably atleast around $850 - 900 Million and may make a Billion like P2

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#83 squirrel337
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Okay, Halo 1 and Halo 2 may have sold loads and be critically acclaimed but...it's the unlucky number 3. Have you been to the cinema recently? Shrek 3. Spiderman 3. Pirates 3. However, sequels are always sucsesful - Godfather 2, Empire Strikes Back, Toy Story 2...

So maybe the film industry isnt a perfect parallel but its certinally accurate. Killzone 2 means that the developers can learn from KIllzone 1s mistakes and make a better game, whereas Halo 3 developers will become complacent and run out of ideas.

My money is on Killzone 2.

ScrunchMuppet

Godfather 2 and 3 were both bad. Empire Strikes Back is number 5 not 2. Toy story 2 was okay but the first one was better.

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#84 michael098
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Okay, Halo 1 and Halo 2 may have sold loads and be critically acclaimed but...it's the unlucky number 3. Have you been to the cinema recently? Shrek 3. Spiderman 3. Pirates 3. However, sequels are always sucsesful - Godfather 2, Empire Strikes Back, Toy Story 2...

So maybe the film industry isnt a perfect parallel but its certinally accurate. Killzone 2 means that the developers can learn from KIllzone 1s mistakes and make a better game, whereas Halo 3 developers will become complacent and run out of ideas.

My money is on Killzone 2.

ScrunchMuppet

Lol, stupid desperate cow, nothing else works so why not blame it on been an unlucky number! The killzone devs have never made a really good game, killzone 1 sucked shellshock sucked. its reasonable to say that its most likely that killzone 2 will also suck.

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#85 solidgamer
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the sign you missed in your thread title

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#86 solidgamer
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the less than sign
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#87 freeload
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Okay, Halo 1 and Halo 2 may have sold loads and be critically acclaimed but...it's the unlucky number 3. Have you been to the cinema recently? Shrek 3. Spiderman 3. Pirates 3. However, sequels are always sucsesful - Godfather 2, Empire Strikes Back, Toy Story 2...

So maybe the film industry isnt a perfect parallel but its certinally accurate. Killzone 2 means that the developers can learn from KIllzone 1s mistakes and make a better game, whereas Halo 3 developers will become complacent and run out of ideas.

My money is on Killzone 2.

ScrunchMuppet

I get where you are going and all but it's not really concrete proof now, is it...

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#88 onewiththegame
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Okay, Halo 1 and Halo 2 may have sold loads and be critically acclaimed but...it's the unlucky number 3. Have you been to the cinema recently? Shrek 3. Spiderman 3. Pirates 3. However, sequels are always sucsesful - Godfather 2, Empire Strikes Back, Toy Story 2...

So maybe the film industry isnt a perfect parallel but its certinally accurate. Killzone 2 means that the developers can learn from KIllzone 1s mistakes and make a better game, whereas Halo 3 developers will become complacent and run out of ideas.

My money is on Killzone 2.

ScrunchMuppet

Playstation 3

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#89 onewiththegame
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[QUOTE="ScrunchMuppet"]

Okay, Halo 1 and Halo 2 may have sold loads and be critically acclaimed but...it's the unlucky number 3. Have you been to the cinema recently? Shrek 3. Spiderman 3. Pirates 3. However, sequels are always sucsesful - Godfather 2, Empire Strikes Back, Toy Story 2...

So maybe the film industry isnt a perfect parallel but its certinally accurate. Killzone 2 means that the developers can learn from KIllzone 1s mistakes and make a better game, whereas Halo 3 developers will become complacent and run out of ideas.

My money is on Killzone 2.

ff7cloudking

Have u seen pirates 3? That movie was awesome.

just got back from watching it...............you sure you watched 3?

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#90 sneeze25
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ever heard of a movie called Lord of the Rings : the Return of the King? /thread
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#91 EliteDeCiel
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who says "let end this" and start one?

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#92 CyanX73
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TC, I agree with you but in a different way. Halo is at the top of the list in FPS games. To retain this spot the series is going to have to be much better than part 2. Killzone, on the otherhand, only has to improve upon the technical issues it had the first time around. Halo 3 looks a lot like Halo 2. Not that this game needs to be a graphical beast but one can't deny that when you compare it to Haze or Gears it looks dated. Killzone has to deal with that CGI lie but if they pull it off we'll all be amazed. I could see Killzone 2 being a better game than Halo but there's no way it sells more.
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#93 Bartz_Has_Bite
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I'm going to take a wuss bet and say that they will both be great.
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#94 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"]Show me a mediocre movie that had a good sequel. Just one.Not-A-Stalker

Pitch Black.

Pitch Black was blah, but the Chronicles of Riddick was pure awesomeness.

I'm sorry, I believe you have the definitions of "blah" and "pure awesomeness" confused with one another.  It's an easy mistake to make.
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#95 TyrantDragon55
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WHAT???????? PIRATES 3 Was AWESOME!:evil:rey06

It was pretty good, just too long,a betterexample to use would have been the Matrix Revolutions. This arguement is still flawedthough because for all you know Halo 3 could turn out to be like the Return of the King.

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#96 ScrunchMuppet
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"Godfather 2 and 3 were both bad. Empire Strikes Back is number 5 not 2. Toy story 2 was okay but the first one was better."

Godfather 2 - regarded as the best film ever. Didn't even mention Godfather 3.

Empire Strikes Back - don't give me that crap about how it's "number 5 in the story" - it's a sequel.

A lot of people seem to be talking about the film parallel I made - what's wrong, can't defeat my arguments so you have to go and change the subject?

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#97 Jagazaar
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Yeah, just like GTA3 was horrible compared to the first two, Ninja Gaiden was a failure in taking the series to 3D, and how Resident Evil 4 was trounced by the first 3! Sequels are always worse than the originals

:|:roll:

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#98 Newnab
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I hated Pirates 3 too. Damn you Gore Verbinksi, you owe me 3 hours of my life back.

However, this is silly. Sequels and... threequels? or whatever you'd call them aren't consistant. Lately we've been subject to Hollywood pumping out remakes and more remakes and sequels and more sequels and they're just milking things until they run out of steam. For many things, this is at the third innings. Other things, however, only go from strength to strength and could probably reach 4 with no problem.

Where Halo 3 is concerned, they've been fantastic games so far, with some being a bit dissapointed in the second. I think it's important to realise however that the second seems to be more of... The bridge, between the first, and the third, and from what we've seen so far we have no reason to believe Halo 3 will be bad.

Killzone, however, seemed to run out of steam in it's FIRST innings. It made some ground with K:L, but I don't think you can logically expect it to best Halo 3, though you can hope upon hope that they finally do things right and craft a decent game for you guys.

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#99 Doom_HellKnight
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So, going by your logic, Unreal Tournament 3 will be bad (or UT2004 if we're going by how many games there are), as will Half-Life 2 Episode 2 (It's the third HL2 game).
Command and Conquer 3 & Call of Duty 3 (sure, it wasn't on par with the two previous installations of the series, but I still enjoyed it) are also god-awful games aren't they?
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#100 2FacedJanus
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Well the comparison to movies is justified in Killzone 2's case, I mean, all we've seen so far was a CGI movie....