Lets Face it , $400 PS3 = Death of Xbox 360

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#101 neo786
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lets face it, if ps3 gets games like the 360 they might get somewhere until then no price drop will help them unless they go dreamcast status stop production and just sell the remaining stock at a really really low price and then a new brand shall be born

Blu-Station

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#102 towie777
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these games dont matter anymore since its old news
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#103 kentaro22
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[QUOTE="blackhorsemen"]Everybody plans to buy a PS3 when it hits the $400 price tag , and We know Sony will release a $400 40GB PS3 this holiday season , PS3 will crush the 360 as soon as the 40GB PS3 arrives .Magical_Zebra

I wouldnt buy a PS3 if you PAID for it... :shock:

But you say so many times you hate so much all systems and that you don't have hate for the PS3 in past threads. You Own many systems, but you just buyed a PS3 to sell at ebay... Are you starting to understand why some people consider you a fanboy?
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#104 sparkypants
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SO PEOPLE WILL BUY CRAP BECUZ IT'S A LITTLE CHEAPER.....DON'T THINK SOchikenfriedrice

look at the Wii :P

but onto the topic if it were 400$ yes it would sell like mad but lets not jump the gun we dont know if it will happen for sure

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#105 RaveRabbid
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Wasn't the PS3 already $400?? I mean $500 + 5 blu ray movies ($100)....... not to mention the emotion chip and it still sold less than the X360 in NA.
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#106 I_ReD45_I
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Everybody plans to buy a PS3 when it hits the $400 price tag , and We know Sony will release a $400 40GB PS3 this holiday season , PS3 will crush the 360 as soon as the 40GB PS3 arrives .blackhorsemen

Your argument fails

I don't plan on buying a PS3. If Mass Effect disappoints me im building a PC to play Crysis, StarCraft IIand FarCry 2

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#107 xAngelxDustx
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gotta love speculation since it's so legit:roll:
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#108 Nagidar
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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="James_Lipton"]

Well, neither both argument are known. None of you are on the board of Sony and MS. And they never release number on production cost recently. You speculating just as much as the TC.

James_Lipton

Recent showings of production cost shows 360 costing $323 it produce while the PS3 cost $840 to produce. This is from last November.

The TC claim Sony's games division was still profiting from PS2 sales, and i proved otherwise.

lol...last November isn't recent. in two months it will be November. Maybe you need to listen to me and just wait until the updated production cost is presented.

So, let me get this straight, you believe that figures from last November showed MS MAKING money off of each 360 sold means that in its current state, could be LOSING money on each 360 sold?

I'm sorry bud, but technology goes forward, not backward, as do the production costs.

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#109 Montavious2004
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Its going to come down to games, always has and it always will, that's how the playstation lead the industy last time around. With MGS being 08, this year is owned by the 360. Next year may be a different tune, thats when i see Microsoft's first opening really for Sony to jump on. And they probably will then, but it may be too late.

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#110 Zippo_Jr
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and you bash microsoft for releasing multiple consoles. To bad sony still suz ballz
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#111 GatoFeo
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Sales will rise but it wont kill teh box until it gets a good game :lol:groudyogre
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#112 chrisrooR
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the X360 has already crushed the PS3 in terms of sales, so has the Wii. You can't base the sales soley on when the price drops occur. You need to acknowledge that the PS3 has already flopped; furthurmore, just because a console drops in price doesn't mean people will suddenly flock to it. You have to include many things; mainly games.
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#113 steamboat109
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[QUOTE="groudyogre"]Sales will rise but it wont kill teh box until it gets a good game :lol:blackhorsemen

Resistance Fall of Man Normal shooter, Oblivion On 360 and PC a lot earlier, Ninja Gaiden Sigma Xbox version nuf said, Warhawk ill play BATLEFIELD instead, keep lying to yourself FAIL

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#114 Zero-G_basic
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The funny thing about all ofthis is that it's not official so it can either be true or false so jumping the gun on a rumor is just silly. because if it doesn't happen the TC along with others will look foolish. And about microsoft not affording a price drop? neither can sony aswell.

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#115 Pro_wrestler
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Wasn't it supposed to Kill 360 at $499?
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#116 Magical_Zebra
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[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="blackhorsemen"]Everybody plans to buy a PS3 when it hits the $400 price tag , and We know Sony will release a $400 40GB PS3 this holiday season , PS3 will crush the 360 as soon as the 40GB PS3 arrives .kentaro22

I wouldnt buy a PS3 if you PAID for it... :shock:

But you say so many times you hate so much all systems and that you don't have hate for the PS3 in past threads. You Own many systems, but you just buyed a PS3 to sell at ebay... Are you starting to understand why some people consider you a fanboy?

Look Vega.... What people on "this game forum" consider me as has no bearing on my life or day to day activities whatsoever. I never said I "hated" the PS3. I said its the "antichrist" of the current consoles... The PS3 took a huge step backwards for it to be a "next gen" console.... :shock:
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#117 Mordred19
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what's the point of this "woulda-coulds-shoulda" thread? yes, if it was $400 dollars, it would be kicking serious butt. the thing is, it is not $400, so it's not kicking butt. why fantisize about what could have been? it doesn't get anything done.
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#118 a_ratchet_fan
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[QUOTE="blackhorsemen"]

[QUOTE="groudyogre"]Sales will rise but it wont kill teh box until it gets a good game :lol:steamboat109

Resistance Fall of Man Normal shooter, Oblivion On 360 and PC a lot earlier, Ninja Gaiden Sigma Xbox version nuf said, Warhawk ill play BATLEFIELD instead, keep lying to yourself FAIL

8)

And what the hell is Halo? Teh Messiahz?

Oblivion: true.

Ninja Gaiden Sigma: I agree and disagree with this statement. I don't care enough to elaborate, though.

Warhawk: Since you people care so much about scores so much, here's something for you to chew on:

Battlefield 2142: 8.1.

Warhawk: 8.5.

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#119 Verge_6
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Why in the hell do you still have posting privileges?
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#120 CrazyIvanIV
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If ps3 was 250$ and i didnt have a wii, i would buy a wii.
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#121 a_ratchet_fan
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Why in the hell do you still have posting privileges?Verge_6

Jesus Christ, am I that bad of a poster? :(

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#122 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Why in the hell do you still have posting privileges?a_ratchet_fan

Jesus Christ, am I that bad of a poster? :(

Not you, the TC.

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#123 a_ratchet_fan
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[QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Why in the hell do you still have posting privileges?Verge_6

Jesus Christ, am I that bad of a poster? :(

Not you, the TC.

Oh. Okay then, nvm. :)

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#124 Rangitahi
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ps3 has been the only console to be in cnets most wanted gadgets list. so people still want the ps3 and will buy it when the price keeps dropping.
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#126 Russell_Burrows
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PS3 gets a price cut . 360 gets a price cut. Back where we started.turgore

Not exactly as consumers are looking at the 360s lower price but many have qualms about Red Rings of Death and other "gifts" from that console. As far as the PS3 its reliable but the price is high for many consumers. As far as the Wii the price is good and thats about it as the sound is lower in quality and the capability of the Wii console is lower than other options with most Wii games being a rippoff for the consumer.

So now with a lower or competitive priced PS3 we get consumers buying that want peace of mind, an included High Definition player and upcoming games like Rachet and Clank, RE 5, FF XIII, MGS4, Drake, Haze, FF Versus, etc. and no worries about the console dying all of a sudden.

With the 360 we get about the same price with no included High Definition playback(correct me if I am wrong), plenty of games and it can stop working all of a sudden (consumer fear RRofD and others).

So Ps3 wins here due to reliability factor.

And the Wii has Wiifit, WiiPlay, Cooking Mama, Mario Strikers, Metroid, etc. but for the most part the majority of Wii games ripoff the consumer with low quality(see shovelware) , lower quality audio and lower quality in the rest of the consoles capability, but it does have a low price point.

Its a tossup folks as many folks are going to go gee 150 bucks more to get the full featured RELIABLE one or settle for the low price point. Most folks want the good stuff(and they want it to work every day!) but do not want to pay much money for it so I see the 360 and Wii sales being squeezed a bit and the PS3 increasing but then hey thats just my opinion.

The 360 dying=nope! but I do see 360 and Wii sales being lower and PS3 sales being higher.

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#127 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="turgore"]PS3 gets a price cut . 360 gets a price cut. Back where we started.DeadMan1290

Agreed.

agreed as well. sony doesn't wanna get into a price war, Because the company like MS with such an disposable income...sony lowers, microsoft lowers.....

Russel barrows above....yeah reliability only goes so far and thats proven because at its current 600$ price tag ps3 still isn't out selling either system....and the 360 pretty much has fixed most of its reliability issues with the new heat sinks, and new mobo comming out.

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#128 strudel420
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PS3 gets a price cut . 360 gets a price cut. Back where we started.turgore

Thread should have ended right there.

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#129 Spartan8907
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I wouldnt say "kill" the 360. It might be more of a rival though.
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#130 myke2010
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Who are these people that will buy the PS3? I don't know any, but I know quite a few picking up a 360 in the next few months, RROD issue and all. The problem here isn't just the price, the problem here is the competition still has a bigger library with really great titles.
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#131 beavisofcod2
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Who are these people that will buy the PS3? I don't know any, but I know quite a few picking up a 360 in the next few months, RROD issue and all. The problem here isn't just the price, the problem here is the competition still has a bigger library with really great titles.myke2010

i plan on getting both once i get rid of my wii

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#132 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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PS3 gets a price cut . 360 gets a price cut. Back where we started.turgore

Exactly. No threat here. Besides, PS3 will NOT be $400 this year. Too soon. Maybe at the end of 08 but by then Xbox 360 will be $300, and much closer to the prime selling price.

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#133 myke2010
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[QUOTE="myke2010"]Who are these people that will buy the PS3? I don't know any, but I know quite a few picking up a 360 in the next few months, RROD issue and all. The problem here isn't just the price, the problem here is the competition still has a bigger library with really great titles.beavisofcod2

i plan on getting both once i get rid of my wii

Sorry, didn't mean to indicate nobody would buy a PS3, was just taking the opposite viewpoint of the TC who thinks everyone will.
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#134 Bren128
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Who are these people that will buy the PS3? I don't know any, but I know quite a few picking up a 360 in the next few months, RROD issue and all. The problem here isn't just the price, the problem here is the competition still has a bigger library with really great titles.myke2010

Im buying one if it drops to 400$ The price and only the price has kept people from buying the ps3. Like i said before, if the ps3 can outsell the 360 worldwide with a 500$ price tag, then why wouldnt it be able to outsell the 360 with a 400$ pt?im sorry but sony still hasalot of its 10 years of owning gaming support. they just havent jumped to next gen yet. 10 years of success isnt going to disappear in a year.Late 2009-2010, thats when well really see whos going to come out on top. Geez most of sonys fans are still playing the ps2.
And im betting that the majority of ps2 owners will eventually own a ps3. But thats just a guess :)

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#135 cyprus646
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Hey while you wait for your :

Good games

price cut

rumble

we will be playing:

BETTER games

asome online

controller with rumble :wink:

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#136 myke2010
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[QUOTE="myke2010"]Who are these people that will buy the PS3? I don't know any, but I know quite a few picking up a 360 in the next few months, RROD issue and all. The problem here isn't just the price, the problem here is the competition still has a bigger library with really great titles.Bren128

Im buying one if it drops to 400$ The price and only the price has kept people from buying the ps3. Like i said before, if the ps3 can outsell the 360 worldwide with a 500$ price tag, then why wouldnt it be able to outsell the 360 with a 400$ pt?im sorry but sony still hasalot of its 10 years of owning gaming support. they just havent jumped to next gen yet. 10 years of success isnt going to disappear in a year.Late 2009-2010, thats when well really see whos going to come out on top. Geez most of sonys fans are still playing the ps2.
And im betting that the majority of ps2 owners will eventually own a ps3. But thats just a guess :)

Well, sorry to break it to you, but Sony's 10 year history of gaming support really doesn't mean as much as most people like to think. The Sega Mega Drive had a bigger market share then the SNES, yet few people supported the Saturn. Nintendo had the same problem with the N64. Just because Sony has had great success 2 gens in a row doesn't mean that consumers and devs won't jump ship in a heartbeat if they think it benefits them. However, back to topic, MS answered Sonys paycut last time with one of their own and quickly negated Sony's advantage. What's to keep them from doing this again? Sony doesn't need a pricecut as much as they need a title that people absolutely must have. The 360 has that with Halo, Wii has the with SMG and SSBB, the PS3 still needs that mega hit.
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#138 Russell_Burrows
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cyprus646

Hey while you wait for your :

Good games

price cut

rumble

we will be playing:

Wii SHOVELWARE games

Wii crap online

Wii controller with sucky sounding speaker.

Fixed.

Games?

Folklore, White Kight Story, Haze, Warkawk, MGS4, Rachet and Clank, Drake, Yakuza, and this one also:

System Seller.

http://www.psxextreme.com/psp-news/1034.html

Final Fantasy VII Remake Confirmed?

Well, in any case. What's the big deal? The big-deal is that just like the PS3 tech-demo, the video in Crisis Core also cuts off as soon as Cloud jumps off the train. The difference is that at the end of the video, the image reads: "to be continued in Final Fantasy VII." Now at this point, Square-Enix is doing nothing more than just stabbing at my heart and poking an old bear with a stick. Seeing as how FFVII cannot be purchased anywhere, and videogame stores do not carry PSOne games anymore, it's essentially confirming the remake of FFVII for the PlayStation 3.

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#139 Bren128
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[QUOTE="Bren128"]

[QUOTE="myke2010"]Who are these people that will buy the PS3? I don't know any, but I know quite a few picking up a 360 in the next few months, RROD issue and all. The problem here isn't just the price, the problem here is the competition still has a bigger library with really great titles.myke2010

Im buying one if it drops to 400$ The price and only the price has kept people from buying the ps3. Like i said before, if the ps3 can outsell the 360 worldwide with a 500$ price tag, then why wouldnt it be able to outsell the 360 with a 400$ pt?im sorry but sony still hasalot of its 10 years of owning gaming support. they just havent jumped to next gen yet. 10 years of success isnt going to disappear in a year.Late 2009-2010, thats when well really see whos going to come out on top. Geez most of sonys fans are still playing the ps2.
And im betting that the majority of ps2 owners will eventually own a ps3. But thats just a guess :)

Well, sorry to break it to you, but Sony's 10 year history of gaming support really doesn't mean as much as most people like to think. The Sega Mega Drive had a bigger market share then the SNES, yet few people supported the Saturn. Nintendo had the same problem with the N64. Just because Sony has had great success 2 gens in a row doesn't mean that consumers and devs won't jump ship in a heartbeat if they think it benefits them. However, back to topic, MS answered Sonys paycut last time with one of their own and quickly negated Sony's advantage. What's to keep them from doing this again? Sony doesn't need a pricecut as much as they need a title that people absolutely must have. The 360 has that with Halo, Wii has the with SMG and SSBB, the PS3 still needs that mega hit.

Nobody else has dominated and established as big as a fanbase as sony. Sony dominated competition while nintendo fought hard to win. its all speculation anyways.

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#140 rocktimusprime
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Everybody plans to buy a PS3 when it hits the $400 price tag , and We know Sony will release a $400 40GB PS3 this holiday season , PS3 will crush the 360 as soon as the 40GB PS3 arrives .blackhorsemen

worked so well the first time they cut the price....

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#141 ff7isnumbaone
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300 is KO for 360. doesn't matter what 360 is going for. All they need to do is make the ps3 affordable.
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#143 mwa
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this may definitely eat into the 360's market share, but as long as MS keeps putting out great titles and sony keeps spewing crap like lair, the 360 should maintain its edge
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#144 blackace
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Everybody plans to buy a PS3 when it hits the $400 price tag , and We know Sony will release a $400 40GB PS3 this holiday season , PS3 will crush the 360 as soon as the 40GB PS3 arrives .blackhorsemen

No. The PS3 will not be $400 this holiday season unless Sony doesn't mind losing about 5 billion for their 4th quarter. I doubt Sony will release a 40GB PS3. Why would they make a SMALLER storage PS3 after releasing a larger 80GB PS3? That would be stupid. They should have just dropped the 60GB PS3 to $400, if that was the case. Most gamers would rather get the 80GB PS3. Still, the system will still be priced higher then the Wii and XBox 360. Well see what happens at the TGS.

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#145 blackace
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The PS3 is only like 20 dollars more than the 360 right now right?DaysAirlines

It's $150 more right now at $499 for the 60GB. Sony is still looking million at this price. If they released a 40GB PS3 for $400, they will even be losing a LOT more money. It cost Sony about $700 to make the 80GB PS3. They will be losing about $150-$200 for every $400 40GB PS3 they sold. That's a lot of losses.

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#146 hazuki87
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Well it would probably also help if the PS3 got a couple games worth buying.
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#147 usule
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I wouldn't buy it for 200 dollars... No games why bother... bye bye ps3... see you next generation...
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#148 daveg1
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they should see some great sales if there is infact a a ps3 at that price point but they also need some good games..not until 08.
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Everybody plans to buy a PS3 when it hits the $400 price tag , and We know Sony will release a $400 40GB PS3 this holiday season , PS3 will crush the 360 as soon as the 40GB PS3 arrives .blackhorsemen


Let's face it. No. ROFL, aw man. Cows need better representation. This is just terrible.