Let's face it, minus exclusives the 360 does everything better

360 is still better :)

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Yeah, that's the one. So you admit you were wrong?

Snugenz

Nope, with GTAIV next to MGS4, still nothing on the 360 can touch it.

Score wise you're correct, but in reality (not system wars) theres alot of much better games on the 360, hell Crackdown is better than MGS4.

360 does many things better, but PS3s exclusives are so vastly superior that I cant even imagine buying 360 over PS3. I acutally bought PS3 in time when it was about double the prize of 360 Arcade in my country and money did matter to me, but I just knew that if I bought 360 over PS3 I would be sad that I cant play games like Demons Souls, Valkyria Chronicles, MGS4, Uncharted series, GoW3, Killzone, Little Big Planet 1 and 2, Heavy Rain, etc.

The only thing I felt missing from 360 was GeoW splitscreen coop, but I borrowed 360 with GeoW 1 and 2 and finished both those games recently, so there is nothing left 360 has to offer for me since I find Halo series incredibly boring and as an old PC gamer, I never understood what everybody finds so revolutionary about it. Imo its just another shooter and not even a good one.

BlbecekBobecek

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"]

They still felt it deserved a 10, it's fishy just because you dont agree,lol. Still it's a higher score on here than any other 360 exclusive

1stPlaceWinner

...does not a good argument make. :P

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"] at gamespot.....big deal, if gears 3 gets AAAA what then?sts106mat

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

You mean besides GTA IV, which is AAAA.sts106mat

At both gamespot and IGN. MGS4 is actually one of 5 games in history that got 10/10 on both those sites.

Acclaimation, professional reviews >>>> personal opinions You see this is why gaming sites such as Gamespot hand out awards like Game of the Year awards. With personal opinion, I could easily say Lair is better than entire/any 360 games. :)Bazooka_4ME

Weren't you saying GT5 beats Forza?

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Avoidance of the question...

...does not a good argument make. :P

SecretPolice

Why do i need to show you?

[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

360 does many things better, but PS3s exclusives are so vastly superior that I cant even imagine buying 360 over PS3. I acutally bought PS3 in time when it was about double the prize of 360 Arcade in my country and money did matter to me, but I just knew that if I bought 360 over PS3 I would be sad that I cant play games like Demons Souls, Valkyria Chronicles, MGS4, Uncharted series, GoW3, Killzone, Little Big Planet 1 and 2, Heavy Rain, etc.

The only thing I felt missing from 360 was GeoW splitscreen coop, but I borrowed 360 with GeoW 1 and 2 and finished both those games recently, so there is nothing left 360 has to offer for me since I find Halo series incredibly boring and as an old PC gamer, I never understood what everybody finds so revolutionary about it. Imo its just another shooter and not even a good one.

1stPlaceWinner

I'll defend halo, even as a fan of older "pc" tom clancy type fps games. However, I haven't taken Halo Reach out of the system since I bought it. That is quite sad. We are all gamers here. I could care less if people label who and who as fanboys. Not all these people that get called sony fanboys deserve that label. Right now I play Reach more than anything else, but as a fan of videogames I don't have any reason to remove the game from my console. I don't even have my 360 games near the system, whereas I have about 10 ps3 titles I consistently play.

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]

Nope, with GTAIV next to MGS4, still nothing on the 360 can touch it.

Bazooka_4ME

Score wise you're correct, but in reality (not system wars) theres alot of much better games on the 360, hell Crackdown is better than MGS4.

So what you're saying is... because they get paid i should ignore my own opinion and go by theirs?. So i should play games i dont like?.

And if you really think Lair is better than the whole 360 library then go for it.

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"][QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

360 does many things better, but PS3s exclusives are so vastly superior that I cant even imagine buying 360 over PS3. I acutally bought PS3 in time when it was about double the prize of 360 Arcade in my country and money did matter to me, but I just knew that if I bought 360 over PS3 I would be sad that I cant play games like Demons Souls, Valkyria Chronicles, MGS4, Uncharted series, GoW3, Killzone, Little Big Planet 1 and 2, Heavy Rain, etc.

The only thing I felt missing from 360 was GeoW splitscreen coop, but I borrowed 360 with GeoW 1 and 2 and finished both those games recently, so there is nothing left 360 has to offer for me since I find Halo series incredibly boring and as an old PC gamer, I never understood what everybody finds so revolutionary about it. Imo its just another shooter and not even a good one.

Heirren

I'll defend halo, even as a fan of older "pc" tom clancy type fps games. However, I haven't taken Halo Reach out of the system since I bought it. That is quite sad. We are all gamers here. I could care less if people label who and who as fanboys. Not all these people that get called sony fanboys deserve that label. Right now I play Reach more than anything else, but as a fan of videogames I don't have any reason to remove the game from my console. I don't even have my 360 games near the system, whereas I have about 10 ps3 titles I consistently play.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Let's face it, 360 exclusives > PS3 exclusives.

Celtic_34

that may be true too. The 360 might do everything better period. I've owned both for a while here and I'm starting to wonder why i even own a ps3.

Microsoft knew hd movies and games being dloadable is the future. You don't need blu-ray.

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]Acclaimation, professional reviews >>>> personal opinions You see this is why gaming sites such as Gamespot hand out awards like Game of the Year awards. With personal opinion, I could easily say Lair is better than entire/any 360 games. :)waltefmoney

Weren't you saying GT5 beats Forza?

Now that you say that, he could've been one of the GT5 >> Forza "who cares about the scores" people. Hmm...

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]Acclaimation, professional reviews >>>> personal opinions You see this is why gaming sites such as Gamespot hand out awards like Game of the Year awards. With personal opinion, I could easily say Lair is better than entire/any 360 games. :)waltefmoney

Weren't you saying GT5 beats Forza?

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"][QUOTE="Snugenz"]

Score wise you're correct, but in reality (not system wars) theres alot of much better games on the 360, hell Crackdown is better than MGS4.

Snugenz

So what you're saying is... because they get paid i should ignore my own opinion and go by theirs?. So i should play games i dont like?.

And if you really think Lair is better than the whole 360 library then go for it.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]Acclaimation, professional reviews >>>> personal opinions You see this is why gaming sites such as Gamespot hand out awards like Game of the Year awards. With personal opinion, I could easily say Lair is better than entire/any 360 games. :)Bazooka_4ME

Weren't you saying GT5 beats Forza?

So you get enjoyment out of sales?.

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"] Acclaimation, professional reviews >>>> personal opinions You see this is why gaming sites such as Gamespot hand out awards like Game of the Year awards. With personal opinion, I could easily say Lair is better than entire/any 360 games. :)MFDOOM1983

So what you're saying is... because they get paid i should ignore my own opinion and go by theirs?. So i should play games i dont like?.

And if you really think Lair is better than the whole 360 library then go for it.

It means something to me, why should i care about anyone other than myself when it comes to my enjoyment.

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"][QUOTE="Snugenz"]

Score wise you're correct, but in reality (not system wars) theres alot of much better games on the 360, hell Crackdown is better than MGS4.

Snugenz

So what you're saying is... because they get paid i should ignore my own opinion and go by theirs?. So i should play games i dont like?.

And if you really think Lair is better than the whole 360 library then go for it.

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="Snugenz"]

So what you're saying is... because they get paid i should ignore my own opinion and go by theirs?. So i should play games i dont like?.

And if you really think Lair is better than the whole 360 library then go for it.

Snugenz

It means something to me, why should i care about anyone other than myself when it comes to my enjoyment.

I agree. Exclusives aren't everything too me, so I prefer the Xbox360. It has alot of haters, but alot of PS3 users come off as insercure to me, and they go to great lengths to insult the Xbox360 for no reason. Sony's fanbase is absolutely insanse. I'm a big Sony guy myself, but the PS3 fanboys on this site are just absolutely delusional to great extents. Also, this thread is going to get nothing but hate, but haters gonna hate8)

epicstory

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Weren't you saying GT5 beats Forza?

Snugenz

So you get enjoyment out of sales?.

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"][QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

360 does many things better, but PS3s exclusives are so vastly superior that I cant even imagine buying 360 over PS3. I acutally bought PS3 in time when it was about double the prize of 360 Arcade in my country and money did matter to me, but I just knew that if I bought 360 over PS3 I would be sad that I cant play games like Demons Souls, Valkyria Chronicles, MGS4, Uncharted series, GoW3, Killzone, Little Big Planet 1 and 2, Heavy Rain, etc.

The only thing I felt missing from 360 was GeoW splitscreen coop, but I borrowed 360 with GeoW 1 and 2 and finished both those games recently, so there is nothing left 360 has to offer for me since I find Halo series incredibly boring and as an old PC gamer, I never understood what everybody finds so revolutionary about it. Imo its just another shooter and not even a good one.

Heirren

I'll defend halo, even as a fan of older "pc" tom clancy type fps games. However, I haven't taken Halo Reach out of the system since I bought it. That is quite sad. We are all gamers here. I could care less if people label who and who as fanboys. Not all these people that get called sony fanboys deserve that label. Right now I play Reach more than anything else, but as a fan of videogames I don't have any reason to remove the game from my console. I don't even have my 360 games near the system, whereas I have about 10 ps3 titles I consistently play.

I think Halo Reach is excellent for ppl that enjoy console FPSs online. I hate console FPSs online (partly because I pretty much suck at it and partly because I find it lacking depth) and Halos singleplayer never got me hooked, so thats where my opinion on Halo comes from.

Overall when I want to play competetive online game, I go for PC, where the definitive online gaming takes place imo (Starcraft 2, CounterStrike, Team Fortress 2, DoTA).

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"] In sales. :)Bazooka_4ME

So you get enjoyment out of sales?.

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="Snugenz"]

So what you're saying is... because they get paid i should ignore my own opinion and go by theirs?. So i should play games i dont like?.

And if you really think Lair is better than the whole 360 library then go for it.

Snugenz

It means something to me, why should i care about anyone other than myself when it comes to my enjoyment.

There was only 1 guy on the entire GS site who made an Uncharted 3 sig about it...and he got banned.tonitorsi

He didn't get banned for the sig, I think. He got banned for constant trolling. He's still around though.

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"][QUOTE="Snugenz"]

So you get enjoyment out of sales?.

MFDOOM1983

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"]Suggesting they are wrong of the score isnt a good argument either

1stPlaceWinner

Why do i need to show you?

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Yikes, are you intentionally being obtuse ? :? Or perhaps it's me if you can show me in the GS 10/10 where they review the on-line parts of MGS4 ?

SecretPolice

Why do i need to show you?

Pretty sure it scored 10/10 because the sp was amazing.

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Eh, the pros & cons of playing MGS4 on-line and being it scored 10/10, the pros should be easy to find. :P

sts106mat

Pretty sure it scored 10/10 because the sp was amazing.

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Eh, the pros & cons of playing MGS4 on-line and being it scored 10/10, the pros should be easy to find. :P

sts106mat

Pretty sure it scored 10/10 because the sp was amazing.

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"]

Why do i need to show you?

1stPlaceWinner

Pretty sure it scored 10/10 because the sp was amazing.

Anyhoo, it's not too important and I guess that's enough of going sorta off topic so carry on I'm done. ;)

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"] In sales. :)Bazooka_4ME

So you get enjoyment out of sales?.

I didnt ask if lemmings enjoyed sales, i asked if you did?.

This should come with a poll so that we can see what the majority really thinks.:)Anyway, as a pc gamer I really don't find the 360 that attractive compared to the PS3. But that's just me.

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Eh, the pros & cons of playing MGS4 on-line and being it scored 10/10, the pros should be easy to find. :P

SecretPolice

Pretty sure it scored 10/10 because the sp was amazing.

Anyhoo, it's not too important and I guess that's enough of going sorta off topic so carry on I'm done. ;)

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"][QUOTE="Snugenz"]

So you get enjoyment out of sales?.

Snugenz

I didnt ask if lemmings enjoyed sales, i asked if you did?.

btw dude, I think Operation Rainfall has been cancelled... afaik.

[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"] at gamespot.....big deal, if gears 3 gets AAAA what then?sts106mat

At both gamespot and IGN. MGS4 is actually one of 5 games in history that got 10/10 on both those sites.

How quickly we forget the Halo 2 and 3 reviews.. how many goodies must microsoft send to these reviewers to secure good reviews?

http://n4g.com/news/70701/dean-takahashis-800-halo-3-schwag-bag

http://www.qj.net/qjnet/xbox-360/dean-takahashi-halo-3-press-kit-nothing-less-than-a-bribe.html

Now i know why i stopped posting here

1. Bluray

2. Free online

3. Much lower failure rate

I could go on, 360 is inferior to the PS3 in many aspects and vice versa.

gamebreakerz__

these as well as:

1. non-proprietary harddrive
2. non-proprietary headset
3. built in wi-fi (new 360's now have this)
4. Bluethooth functionality
5. disc slot rather than the wobbly disc tray of a 360
6. and more

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]

1. Bluray

2. Free online

3. Much lower failure rate

I could go on, 360 is inferior to the PS3 in many aspects and vice versa.

NaveedLife

these as well as:

1. non-proprietary harddrive
2. non-proprietary headset
3. built in wi-fi (new 360's now have this)
4. Bluethooth functionality
5. disc slot rather than the wobbly disc tray of a 360
6. and more

Cloud storage

Browser

360 always seemed like a cheap toy compared to the PS3.

PS3 gives me a 'mini-htpc' feel. Only problem is that its a console, and gets console games, instead of PC-quality games (needs mouse/kb standard IMO)

Not really 360 exclusives are pretty lame besides Halo and gears. The hardware is becoming more and more outdated with the release of more games with multiple discs. The graphics are not as strong as the ps3. The only thing xbox has over ps3 really is xbox live. The main features psn is missing is cross game chat, games on demand, player review system, the abilty to send voice messages. Epsn, Facebook, Twitter, and all that is not important or you can just use the ps3 web browser for that.

I bought a ps3 a while back and it turns out the 360 is still the better console to play most stuff on. Better controller. Better Multiplats. Netflix is more responsive. Dloads are faster. Most content is quicker to come up on 360.

Thing is I think the ps3 is the better console. I think it's capable of more if it was developed for. I don't think the hardware itself is designed to a multimedia device like the 360 is though.

I pretty much bought a ps3. All I use it for is The Show and Uncharted and a few other exlcusive games i'll try.

I'm not a 360 fanboy by any means. I don't even think the 360 is that great. I think it sucks in a lot of ways. I really was hoping the ps3 would be the more supported console this gen. BEcause I think it is capable of better games. But it's just not.

The ps3 does everything? Minus the exclusives the 360 does everything else better. And Blu-RAy.. But with Netflix who cares. I don't think I've used the blu-ray player on my ps3 once.

Celtic_34

Pfff multiplats are better on ps3. Two words: Portal 2. It's the best game of all time, there are no other multiplats that are interesting in existence.