Lets get this over with - Do you think PC/360 games are exclusive to the 360?

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#351 kcpp2b
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"]"Console Exclusive" means nothing to YOU because you play PC games. To plenty of people on SW Consoles are the only option so PC's get chucked out of the equation when arguing between the different consoles.Bgrngod


Then someone that doesnt own a PS3 makes "PS3 exclusive" or "PS3/360 exclusive" meaningless because they dont own a PS3. Pretending a game doesnt exist on a platform you dont own doesnt actually make it true. Getting gaming PC is just as possible as going to a store and picking up a PS3. The discussions have always been about the games.

They are not ignoring it because they don't own a PC, they are ignoring it because PC's are different from Console gaming. Getting PC gaming is quite a bit different then Console gaming simply because of the combination between cost/complexity. It's undeniable that many Console gamers disregard the PC factor simply because it is not something they are able to do.

So theoretically if a standardized PC existed that was as easy to use and as cheap as aconsole then for all intents and purposes it would bea console? *Waits anxiously for your response*

If such a PC existed it wouldn't be a PC, it would be a console, as evidenced by the Xbox and Xbox 360.

Oh but it plays PC games and does everything a PC does, but has the ease of use of a console. What do you call such a thing? A console? I guess a PC can be a console then.

Completely ignoring the fact that building a PC is not cost affective for many people that buy console games. PC's do not have anywhere close to the easy of use of a console. The simple fact that consoles exist is a testament to this. Consoles are cheaper, and easier, and offer a unified platform for developers to work with. Just keep denying the fact that PC gaming and Console gaming are different.....



Exactly, if I want to play Crysis properly I have to spend more then the PS3 or 360 and ofcourse Wii.
I mean don't console gaming sales shadow PC game sales? I think it does for a reason and as he said consoles are easier to use which is 100% true like the Wii is. Freaking parents are using the Wii and grandparents. There are people who can't use a mouse but can use the Wiimote. Console and PC's are two different animals.

Personally I feel most people don't have PC's that can play these kinds of games, I know very few that do personally and I know many gamers. And more importantly I like seperating my PC from my gaming. I don't like spending too much time in front of a PC cause I did that at work couple years ago working on a project and I got a eye problem which caused blurry eyes and crust etc... Playing a console is more comfortable and is more casual friendly and more intriging to non-gamers. That's why these 360 games are still exclusive to me cause their main competition doesn't have them. If PC was a huge competition to them and ruined sales for them then why would Microsoft be working so closely with PC gaming and the 360?

And on top of that if you wanna argue it being non exclusive ruins sales you're wrong. Halo 2 is still not out yet for the PC therefor when it does come out it will not affect the 360. And Gears of war will take years to go on PC and by that time it will also not affect the 360.

Main argument for me is that PC and Consoles are a different kind of gaming, if they aren't to you people then go argue with the PC hermits who say consoles are garbage to PC's. And btw Halo and Gears are being done through MS so they get paid on every sale of a copy of the game even if Sony gets it for example
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#352 Vampyronight
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If I have reasonable access to it on another platform, it's not exclusive. Perhaps it's a timed exclusive (which has merit, as the length of time between releases is great enough to prevent a significant number of people from waiting), but certainly not exclusive or "console exclusive." If we fall prey to that silly term, then we're going to have tons of other types of "exclusives" popping up or a reason to claim that it's exclusive to a particular console. "It's exclusive the 360 over the Wii because only the 360 version had HD graphics" "It's PS3 exclusive because that's the only version found on a single disc, which is superior than changing discs" "Motion-sensing exclusive" (I've already seen a few sheep propose this one- yes, the game is now exclusive due to its playstyle) Achievement points make it exclusive! Argh, the list could just go on as a reason to give a certain console another exclusive. The current definitions make perfect sense to anyone with a brain- exclusive means it's only available for one platform, and thus, not multiplatform. You can't just selectively rule out a competing market because it doesn't suit your needs.
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#353 Hewkii
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And answer this: Do you or do you not NEED to BUY and USE Windows to play Halo 2?
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Possibly Not.
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#354 Raidea
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No, of course not.

But then again, if a game comes out on 360, then PC two years later it's still exclusive to the 360 for those two years.
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#356 klactose
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[QUOTE="Bgrngod"]

Here is how this is probably shaking out.  We clearly have two camps voting on each side of the question.  And a lot of people absolutely refusing to look at it from the other side.

People voting "Yes" believe there is a difference between "Exclusive" and "Console Exclusive" and don't consider the PC a Console.  When someone uses the term "exclusive" they interchange it with the term "Console Exclusive" in thier minds based on the context of the discussion.

People voting "No" believe that "Exclusive" means only one one platform regardless of what category of Console, PC, Handheld, Cellphone etc it may be in.  When these people see the term "Exclusive" they think cross category regardless of the context it may be used in since "Console Exclusive" was not specified as it probably should have been by whoever used it.

So can we all at least agree that if a game is on the 360 and the PC that it is indeed a "Console Exclusive" to the 360?  This seems like a pretty obvious distinction to me.

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In that case I push the notion that all games that are on the 360 and the PC are indeed "PC Exclusives".

That only problem with that would be that the PC doesn't have any other systems in it's class. This is actually a good thing for the PC. As you stated yourself, the PC is open and can use multiple OSes (Mac, windows, Unix, Linux, etc). So in that light, the term PC exclusive is meaningless when trying to distinguish which OSes a game may use to run on the platform (most would just assume windows), perhaps Mac exclusive, windows exclusive, etc would fit better. The only reason "XXX" Console Exclusive means anything is because there is other competing hardware that ISN'T interchangeable (or at least not easily so - hacks don't count). The PC doesn't have this problem. So in if something is a PC eclusive people figure that it's not on any consoles. The term "Console Exclusive" by itself, in my mind would mean that it may be one or more consoles, but not on the PC or any handhelds. So basically what I'm saying is that to make Console Exclusive mean specific to ONE console and another platform it should be preceded with that consoles name (PS3 "Console Exclusive", 360 "Console Exclusive"). That same designation system could/should be used across the board PSP ("handheld exclusive", "Mac PC exclusive", etc).
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#357 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"]

Here is how this is probably shaking out.  We clearly have two camps voting on each side of the question.  And a lot of people absolutely refusing to look at it from the other side.

People voting "Yes" believe there is a difference between "Exclusive" and "Console Exclusive" and don't consider the PC a Console.  When someone uses the term "exclusive" they interchange it with the term "Console Exclusive" in thier minds based on the context of the discussion.

People voting "No" believe that "Exclusive" means only one one platform regardless of what category of Console, PC, Handheld, Cellphone etc it may be in.  When these people see the term "Exclusive" they think cross category regardless of the context it may be used in since "Console Exclusive" was not specified as it probably should have been by whoever used it.

So can we all at least agree that if a game is on the 360 and the PC that it is indeed a "Console Exclusive" to the 360?  This seems like a pretty obvious distinction to me.

klactose
In that case I push the notion that all games that are on the 360 and the PC are indeed "PC Exclusives".

That only problem with that would be that the PC doesn't have any other systems in it's class. This is actually a good thing for the PC. As you stated yourself, the PC is open and can use multiple OSes (Mac, windows, Unix, Linux, etc). So in that light, the term PC exclusive is meaningless when trying to distinguish which OSes a game may use to run on the platform (most would just assume windows), perhaps Mac exclusive, windows exclusive, etc would fit better. The only reason "XXX" Console Exclusive means anything is because there is other competing hardware that ISN'T interchangeable (or at least not easily so - hacks don't count). The PC doesn't have this problem. So in if something is a PC eclusive people figure that it's not on any consoles. The term "Console Exclusive" by itself, in my mind would mean that it may be one or more consoles, but not on the PC or any handhelds. So basically what I'm saying is that to make Console Exclusive mean specific to ONE console and another platform it should be preceded with that consoles name (PS3 "Console Exclusive", 360 "Console Exclusive"). That same designation system could/should be used across the board PSP ("handheld exclusive", "Mac PC exclusive", etc).

It is very useless........in the context of this arguement. But there are HUGE implications in future 360 V PC arguements if this precedent stands.
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#358 CaseyWegner
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the title of the forum says no.