Lets have a high quality long lasting high-end PC for $600.

One of the prime complaints i see in these kind of threads is that the components are not high quality and it wont last long and if i am spending that much money i may as well spend more to get a high-end that would last.Well here is one high quality one that will last as long as the ps3 and 360 atleast.There we go,

Casing.That's a stylish casing and has adequate cooling for the PC and is not a cheap one.

DVD burner.

7200 RPM Harddrive.

8800 Graphics Card.

Antec 430W Power Supply.This is a high quality PSU if you didnt know.

Corsair 2GB DDR2 800Mhz Ram.This is again high quality Ram.

Asus Intel motherboard.Asus is a very reliable motherboard manufacturer if you didnt know.

Intel E6750 core 2 duo CPU.This is one high end CPU for you.

Keyboard.

Mouse.

Total=$600.

Since your consoles come with a controller i included the keyboard and mouse as well.You can use your existing OS so you dont need that.The motherboard has 5.1 surround so we dont need a soundcard.Your console does not come with a TV or speakers so we will leave that as well.

This PC costs about 50% more than your consoles and is 100% more powerful than either console.It will last atleast as long as your console last.It will always be ahead of your consoles in the graphics department and ofcourse the PC is always ahead in the games department.

So basically the ps3 and xbox 360 is a ripoff compared to PC and companies are not losing money on each console but only making a fool out of their consumer into believing that.

So the bottom line is this that console gaming is more expensive with ti expensive games and less price performance hardware and still provides an inferior experience to the PC despite being expensive.Well that is sad.

Good day.

The problem is, PCs don't last as long as consoles... have you tried playing Far Cry on a high-end PC built in 2001? Theoretically the PC should be able to handle it, if it "lasts as long as a console."Funkyhamster

Mid-level Antecs are good PSUs (I had a TP430, and now have a TPTrio 550), but I don't think their 12v rail has enough current for an 8800. You may want to step that PSU up a little.

Also, I don't see an OS anywhere on that list.

I still don't care about PC gaming, sorryf50p90

second that.

Mid-level Antecs are good PSUs (I had a TP430, and now have a TPTrio 550), but I don't think their 12v rail has enough current for an 8800. You may want to step that PSU up a little.

Also, I don't see an OS anywhere on that list.

lowe0

The problem is, PCs don't last as long as consoles... have you tried playing Far Cry on a high-end PC built in 2001? Theoretically the PC should be able to handle it, if it "lasts as long as a console."Funkyhamster

what about 2001 PC didn't work with Far Cry? Were you still running windows 3.11 or something? Every PC i have ever owned has lasted ATLEAST 5 years with minor if any upgrading and has been able to play games that have come out 5 years later on decent settings. Any upgrading I have ever done is usually in Memory or Harddrive space. As an Example, my computer that I bought in 98 played UT2k4 pefectly on medium to high settings and this was 6 years later :/

The problem is, PCs don't last as long as consoles... have you tried playing Far Cry on a high-end PC built in 2001? Theoretically the PC should be able to handle it, if it "lasts as long as a console."Funkyhamster

The problem is, PCs don't last as long as consoles... have you tried playing Far Cry on a high-end PC built in 2001? Theoretically the PC should be able to handle it, if it "lasts as long as a console."Funkyhamster

[QUOTE="Funkyhamster"]The problem is, PCs don't last as long as consoles... have you tried playing Far Cry on a high-end PC built in 2001? Theoretically the PC should be able to handle it, if it "lasts as long as a console."mo0ksi

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

Mid-level Antecs are good PSUs (I had a TP430, and now have a TPTrio 550), but I don't think their 12v rail has enough current for an 8800. You may want to step that PSU up a little.

Also, I don't see an OS anywhere on that list.

Vandalvideo

That's fine if your a student, but for people in the real world Vista is $99 for the basic edition (which is garbage) and up to $299 for Ultimate.

actually, that costs about $700 if you include shipping...just saying.jack_russel

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="lowe0"]

Mid-level Antecs are good PSUs (I had a TP430, and now have a TPTrio 550), but I don't think their 12v rail has enough current for an 8800. You may want to step that PSU up a little.

Also, I don't see an OS anywhere on that list.

EmperorSupreme

That's fine if your a student, but for people in the real world Vista is $99 for the basic edition (which is garbage) and up to $299 for Ultimate.

[QUOTE="f50p90"]I still don't care about PC gaming, sorryclone01

second that.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="lowe0"]

Mid-level Antecs are good PSUs (I had a TP430, and now have a TPTrio 550), but I don't think their 12v rail has enough current for an 8800. You may want to step that PSU up a little.

Also, I don't see an OS anywhere on that list.

Vandalvideo

That's fine if your a student, but for people in the real world Vista is $99 for the basic edition (which is garbage) and up to $299 for Ultimate.

I don't think you can burn it off with Vista, don't you have to go thru activation.

I don't think you can burn it off with Vista, don't you have to go thru activation.EmperorSupreme

that would be great if I knew how to put it together...lolUnknownSniper65

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

Mid-level Antecs are good PSUs (I had a TP430, and now have a TPTrio 550), but I don't think their 12v rail has enough current for an 8800. You may want to step that PSU up a little.

Also, I don't see an OS anywhere on that list.

Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]that would be great if I knew how to put it together...lolkarasill

[QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]that would be great if I knew how to put it together...lolVandalvideo

..those few hours I could have been already playing a game on a console

[QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]that would be great if I knew how to put it together...lolVandalvideo

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]that would be great if I knew how to put it together...lolUnknownSniper65

..those few hours I could have been already playing a game on a console

So a complete noob (Like my teenage sister) can learn the in's and out's and assemble a PC from scratch with a few minutes of research and not run into any problems? karasill

[QUOTE="karasill"] So a complete noob (Like my teenage sister) can learn the in's and out's and assemble a PC from scratch with a few minutes of research and not run into any problems? Vandalvideo

I like your HDD,

Pros: its small has space and quick

Cons: this thing died out so fast on me i probably had access to my computer for a week or so and it completely failed i got this because i didnt pay attention to what i was getting but i should have when buying my hard drive there was no such thing as saving this after it went out

Pros: Small, quiet and fast.

Cons: I bought this drive and installed vista on it and a few hours later rebooted and my installation was corrupt, Did the same procedure again and ran CHKDSK, Bad sectors and 4 errors were found...Next reboot

And the case

Pros: Mostly the price. Case is attractive, fans are not loud, and usb ports on front. Plenty of room for good air movement.

Cons: Side panels are flimsy is the main reason it gets four eggs - boarderline 3 eggs but the price keeps it at 4. Power supply is junk as most reviews mention but for the price what do you expect.

Pros: What can i say. Good price, sturdy case, and looks great. The case might be a little flimsy, but does its job

Cons: Front door is kinda loose. Made of weak material but hey for the price you cant complain.

and the Graphics Card

Pros: SUPER GOOD CARD, NO REASON TO BUY THE HIGHER CLOCKED VERSION THEY ARE IDENTICAL, YOU CAN EVEN FLASH THIS CARD WITH THE 680MHZ VERSION BIOS AND IT WORKS. WHEN OVERCLOCKED MATCHES A 8800 GT AT STOCK SAVING YOU ABOUT 90.00

Cons:THE FAN IS LOUD , BUT BUY A CHEAP AFTER MARKET COOLER EXAMPLE ACCELERO S1 OR ZALMAN VF700 THERMALTAKE DUAL ORB ETC.

Would want to fix that,

and you need an OS , and monitor, cables, speakers, and gaming mouse would be nice. Not to mention you need to add shipping from to that price

] What if my sister hasn't picked up anything along the way? What if she's only been a console gamer and one day decided to be a pc gamer? It's going to take more then a few minutes for her to feel confident in assembling a pc by herself....karasill

[QUOTE="clone01"]

[QUOTE="f50p90"]I still don't care about PC gaming, sorryBroken_Tulip

second that.

less fuss factor, and my friends game on XBL. i also like Nintendo's first party titles, and enjoy playing console games when they first come out (mass effect, assassin's creed, gears of war). i enjoy the convenience of sliding a disc into a tray and playing.

on a more personal level, i am on a computer for about 9 hours a day, every day. when i'm done with work, aside from the internet, i want nothing to do with a computer.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]that would be great if I knew how to put it together...lolUnknownSniper65

..those few hours I could have been already playing a game on a console

i enjoy the convenience of sliding a disc into a tray and playing.clone01

[QUOTE="karasill"]] What if my sister hasn't picked up anything along the way? What if she's only been a console gamer and one day decided to be a pc gamer? It's going to take more then a few minutes for her to feel confident in assembling a pc by herself....Vandalvideo

Unless you're a genuis that can speed read, a complete newbie needs more then a feel minutes.

[QUOTE="clone01"] i enjoy the convenience of sliding a disc into a tray and playing.Vandalvideo

calibration issues? what do you mean? also, i've had my 360 for 2 years with no problems (and my nintendo wii). and there's no "constant patching." occasionally, a game will receive an update, but those are nowhere near "constant."

Except you forget to mention that YOU do need to do research on parts. You don't want to buy a E8400 and pair a Geforce 8400 with that... A person would need to familiarize themselves with computer hardware and have a basic understanding of what each thing does and what you should be looking for, not just how to assemble a PC. Thus a few hours of reseach is needed. Unless you're a genuis that can speed read, a complete newbie needs more then a feel minutes.karasill

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="clone01"] i enjoy the convenience of sliding a disc into a tray and playing.clone01

calibration issues? what do you mean? also, i've had my 360 for 2 years with no problems (and my nintendo wii). and there's no "constant patching." occasionally, a game will receive an update, but those are nowhere near "constant."

[QUOTE="clone01"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="clone01"] i enjoy the convenience of sliding a disc into a tray and playing.Vandalvideo

calibration issues? what do you mean? also, i've had my 360 for 2 years with no problems (and my nintendo wii). and there's no "constant patching." occasionally, a game will receive an update, but those are nowhere near "constant."

sorry about the 360 issues. i've never had accuracy problems with the wii, aside from navigating the main menu, which seems to be a bit sticky.

The problem is, PCs don't last as long as consoles... have you tried playing Far Cry on a high-end PC built in 2001? Theoretically the PC should be able to handle it, if it "lasts as long as a console."Funkyhamster

I'm sorry, but this doesn't make sense. It would be like saying "have you tried playing Gears of War on an Xbox?"

OS aren't expensive, especially if you're a student. I can get XP for like 30 bucks and vista for 50.Vandalvideo

Student pricing, huh? I seem to recall someone giving me some BS lecture about arguments that don't apply in all circumstances. I wonder who that was?

[QUOTE="karasill"]Except you forget to mention that YOU do need to do research on parts. You don't want to buy a E8400 and pair a Geforce 8400 with that... A person would need to familiarize themselves with computer hardware and have a basic understanding of what each thing does and what you should be looking for, not just how to assemble a PC. Thus a few hours of reseach is needed. Unless you're a genuis that can speed read, a complete newbie needs more then a feel minutes.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]OS aren't expensive, especially if you're a student. I can get XP for like 30 bucks and vista for 50.lowe0

Student pricing, huh? I seem to recall someone giving me some BS lecture about arguments that don't apply in all circumstances. I wonder who that was?

It's simple once you know what you're doing. Maybe since you're an avid PC gamer it seems really easy to you. I'm sorry but it takes more then 5 minutes. It takes more then 5 minutes just to read what you need to do. Try reading 1/4 of this guide and actually understand it in 5 minutes: karasill

[QUOTE="karasill"] It's simple once you know what you're doing. Maybe since you're an avid PC gamer it seems really easy to you. I'm sorry but it takes more then 5 minutes. It takes more then 5 minutes just to read what you need to do. Try reading 1/4 of this guide and actually understand it in 5 minutes: Vandalvideo

Unless you have somone holding your hand the whole way you can't learn how to build a PC on your own and know the in's and out's in 5 minutes.

I'm not making it sound hard. It's just more time consuming then you're making it out to be. 5 minutes?! That's ridiculous. So you knew what CMOS was? (You need to know that the cmos never puts your hardware and optimum settings) You knew what bottlenecking was? You knew what hardware you were supposed to buy? You knew how much power you needed for your rig. Unless you have somone holding your hand the whole way you can't learn how to build a PC on your own and know thw in's and out's in 5 minutes.karasill

[QUOTE="karasill"] I'm not making it sound hard. It's just more time consuming then you're making it out to be. 5 minutes?! That's ridiculous. So you knew what CMOS was? (You need to know that the cmos never puts your hardware and optimum settings) You knew what bottlenecking was? You knew what hardware you were supposed to buy? You knew how much power you needed for your rig. Unless you have somone holding your hand the whole way you can't learn how to build a PC on your own and know thw in's and out's in 5 minutes.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]OS aren't expensive, especially if you're a student. I can get XP for like 30 bucks and vista for 50.Vandalvideo

Student pricing, huh? I seem to recall someone giving me some BS lecture about arguments that don't apply in all circumstances. I wonder who that was?

You don't, but why would you assemble a pc with next to no knowledge about it? That's like me getting a crash course on how to assemble an engine in 5 minutes. Do you expect anyone to feel confident that they can do it? Sure I might be able with common sense and the little knowledge I have, but it sure as heck wouldn't be pretty nor would I get the best results compared to if I actually went to a week long class about it.karasill