Are you kidding me? Whats there to kid about? Its had a fantastic year so far.[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]
Damn, Wii is getting the best games so far this year. jakehouston88
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Are you kidding me? Whats there to kid about? Its had a fantastic year so far.[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]
Damn, Wii is getting the best games so far this year. jakehouston88
[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"] This is common knowledge here in SW. IronBassNot really. It's the other way around. Besides graphics and sound, there's nothing that is graded differently.
Wow.. i cant believe people are still saying that. I thought everyone stopped saying it the day SMG recieved GOTY. It pretty much destroys that argument.
Guess hes new blood.
Theres also the fact that alot of the best Wii games have absoloutely no counter parts to be compared to on the other consoles, LKS, Boom Blox, Zack and Wiki, Punch Out!! for example. So i cant see how the standards can be lower when the Wii IS the standard.
[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"] This is common knowledge here in SW. IronBassNot really. It's the other way around. Besides graphics and sound, there's nothing that is graded differently. :lol: Like those are small parts of the grade. Look at IGN, for example. Graphics and sound EACH have their own grade which affects the final score. If Wii scores = PS3/360 scores than DS, PSP, PC are all equal as well, right? :lol: To error_202. I'm new blood? You got 122 posts and I am new blood? I smell a ban-dodger. Also, Smg is not the norm. And I could go on about the NES fanboy inside a lot of us older gamers that aided that score. But it was a great game and earned the accolades. That doesn't mean every other Wii title can stand so strong. Especially when we get deeper into the gen. But let me repeat my main point here because I know some here will miss it. If Wii is rated on the same grading scale as 360/PS3, then ALL system's scores must be graded on the same scale, no? So a DS game rated 9 is just as good as a PC/PS3/360 game of the same score? Tell me that with a straight face.
yes[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="EPaul"]
Did it have official hype?
EPaul
So did it flop?
No. Because all games dont need to score 9 to be good.:lol: Like those are small parts of the grade. Look at IGN, for example. Graphics and sound EACH have their own grade which affects the final score. If Wii scores = PS3/360 scores than DS, PSP, PC are all equal as well, right? :lol: To error_202. I'm new blood? You got 122 posts and I am new blood? I smell a ban-dodger. Also, Smg is not the norm. And I could go on about the NES fanboy inside a lot of us older gamers that aided that score. But it was a great game and earned the accolades. That doesn't mean every other Wii title can stand so strong. Especially when we get deeper into the gen. But let me repeat my main point here because I know some here will miss it. If Wii is rated on the same grading scale as 360/PS3, then ALL system's scores must be graded on the same scale, no? So a DS game rated 9 is just as good as a PC/PS3/360 game of the same score? Tell me that with a straight face.PoppaGamer
Games are scored based on what that specific console/handheld is capable of and what titles have already done some of the things on that console.
It would be rather stupid for us to say that they are all on the same scale - let alone say that the Wii has a different scale than the PS3/360.
They all have different scales, they're reviewed based on what that console SPECIFICALLY is capable of and what we've seen previously done on that console.
[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="PoppaGamer"] This is common knowledge here in SW. PoppaGamerNot really. It's the other way around. Besides graphics and sound, there's nothing that is graded differently. :lol: Like those are small parts of the grade. Look at IGN, for example. Graphics and sound EACH have their own grade which affects the final score. If Wii scores = PS3/360 scores than DS, PSP, PC are all equal as well, right? :lol: To error_202. I'm new blood? You got 122 posts and I am new blood? I smell a ban-dodger. Also, Smg is not the norm. And I could go on about the NES fanboy inside a lot of us older gamers that aided that score. But it was a great game and earned the accolades. That doesn't mean every other Wii title can stand so strong. Especially when we get deeper into the gen. But let me repeat my main point here because I know some here will miss it. If Wii is rated on the same grading scale as 360/PS3, then ALL system's scores must be graded on the same scale, no? So a DS game rated 9 is just as good as a PC/PS3/360 game of the same score? Tell me that with a straight face.
Poppa Gamer: Member since Jan 9, 2009
error_202: Member since March 26, 2005
Your new blood in my books my boy. And no im not a ban dodger.
Anyway i was thinking about it and i have to partially agree with you. The example i thought about was The Conduit. I could see that getting AA on the Wii but getting below that on the 360/PS3. So what that means is some genres have lower standards and some dont.
I dont see how you can say it would LKS would score lower on the Wii when there is absoloutely NOTHING like it on the PS3/360. Theres nothing we could compare it to, to say it would score lower on the HD twins and that goes for alot of Wii exclusives.
So overall i retract what i said before as some genres do have higher standards on the HD twins, but some dont.
and Handhelds =/= Consoles, Downloadable =/= console games.
[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"]:lol: Like those are small parts of the grade. Look at IGN, for example. Graphics and sound EACH have their own grade which affects the final score. If Wii scores = PS3/360 scores than DS, PSP, PC are all equal as well, right? :lol: To error_202. I'm new blood? You got 122 posts and I am new blood? I smell a ban-dodger. Also, Smg is not the norm. And I could go on about the NES fanboy inside a lot of us older gamers that aided that score. But it was a great game and earned the accolades. That doesn't mean every other Wii title can stand so strong. Especially when we get deeper into the gen. But let me repeat my main point here because I know some here will miss it. If Wii is rated on the same grading scale as 360/PS3, then ALL system's scores must be graded on the same scale, no? So a DS game rated 9 is just as good as a PC/PS3/360 game of the same score? Tell me that with a straight face.Haziqonfire
Games are scored based on what that specific console/handheld is capable of and what titles have already done some of the things on that console.
It would be rather stupid for us to say that they are all on the same scale - let alone say that the Wii has a different scale than the PS3/360.
They all have different scales, they're reviewed based on what that console SPECIFICALLY is capable of and what we've seen previously done on that console.
Ding, Ding, Ding!!! We have a winner!! Show him what he's won, Chuck!!![QUOTE="FILIPINOMAZTER"]gs isnt giving any wii games anything above 8.5 since the last few monthsrgame1you make it sound 8.5 is an atrocious score. for some games it is, just like some games that score 10 when months later people would give it an 7-8
It's an RTS/RPG I imagined the story to be something similar to Pokemon, where it's simple and light, not something intense. Fallout 3 had a terrible story, they didn't mark that down, and that seems like the sort of game you mark down for bad story not this, seems like they were just looking for reasons not to give it an AAA, I mean come on, repetitive sound effects? Same as every game where you do the same things quite a lot...Poor story = epic fail
Espada12
[QUOTE="rgame1"][QUOTE="FILIPINOMAZTER"]gs isnt giving any wii games anything above 8.5 since the last few monthssurrealnumber5you make it sound 8.5 is an atrocious score. for some games it is, just like some games that score 10 when months later people would give it an 7-8 I'm pretty sure8.5 is not an atrocious score for ANY game.
[QUOTE="GANGSTASAN"][QUOTE="EPaul"]No. Because all games dont need to score 9 to be good. who said anything about that? It can still be a good game, even if it had flopped. Learn the definition of "flop"Flop means "failure" (eg unprofitable) but on SW it means it got anything below the expected critic score.So did it flop?
Sonick54
The game is great and got what it deserved. its very fun, the art style and music are great and the boss fights are the funnest part of the game (and theres alot of them) im glad i bought it
somethings wrong with gamespot.They havent give a wii game a 9 or higher for a while.....Regent192thats what im trying to say
somethings wrong with gamespot.They havent give a wii game a 9 or higher for a while.....Regent192Who cares? :| Game still scored well, the review states some great points (if anyone bothered to read it) and seems like this game isn't a bad purchase for anyone looking to buy it. What's it matter if it's a 9 or 10? Does that make the game more enjoyable?
[QUOTE="Espada12"]It's an RTS/RPG I imagined the story to be something similar to Pokemon, where it's simple and light, not something intense. Fallout 3 had a terrible story, they didn't mark that down, and that seems like the sort of game you mark down for bad story not this, seems like they were just looking for reasons not to give it an AAA, I mean come on, repetitive sound effects? Same as every game where you do the same things quite a lot...Poor story = epic fail
bobbetybob
Yea that's one of the reasons I couldn't finish fallout.. story was so bad, I just got bored.
[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"][QUOTE="PoppaGamer"] This is so false. This would be the case if a Wii game score of 8 was equal to a 360/PS3 game score of 8. But they aren't equal. And you know that.PoppaGamer
You've got to be kidding....
On what terms, graphics?
As far as I'm concerned LKS is the best game I've played this year. Compared to games like Killzone 2 it's far more deserving of a 9.
Are denying the fact that WIi titles are graded on a different scale than 360/PS3? :lol: Look at a 360/PS3 review and see how they get knocked for framerate, screen tearing, jaggies, etc. Things that occur by pushing the more powerful hardware. If the Wii doesn't have to do that puching, how can the grading be equal? This is common knowledge here in SW. Catch up.So in other words, graphics? As I thought. That holds no weight with this game at all. The graphics are great, regardless of system, and from a technical side it performs well. It wouldn't matter what system the game was on, it would score the same. You want to argue that it wouldn't? Play the game first.
[QUOTE="wapahala"]
[QUOTE="Espada12"]
Poor story = epic fail
Espada12
... but that means that MGS = epic fail. Oh, well :)
Hm?? MGS was alrite in the story department. Nothing too great nothing terrible.
That is absolutely not true, MGS has one of the most developed stories that is well written and told. I dont understand how its not great....As LKS, im glad it got a great score, the Wii is looking fantastic and is finally getting a flurry of good games.
[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"][QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]
You've got to be kidding....
On what terms, graphics?
As far as I'm concerned LKS is the best game I've played this year. Compared to games like Killzone 2 it's far more deserving of a 9.
Are denying the fact that WIi titles are graded on a different scale than 360/PS3? :lol: Look at a 360/PS3 review and see how they get knocked for framerate, screen tearing, jaggies, etc. Things that occur by pushing the more powerful hardware. If the Wii doesn't have to do that puching, how can the grading be equal? This is common knowledge here in SW. Catch up.So in other words, graphics? As I thought. That holds no weight with this game at all. The graphics are great, regardless of system, and from a technical side it performs well. It wouldn't matter what system the game was on, it would score the same. You want to argue that it wouldn't? Play the game first.
Dude, if you straigh ported the game to PS3 or 360 it would get raped on graphics scoring. Are you saying it wouldn't? Again, the point is, THEY AREN'T GRADED ON THE SAME SCALE. You can narrow that to graphics and then pretend its a minor aspect, if you wish. Doesn't change the facts.[QUOTE="Espada12"]
[QUOTE="wapahala"]
... but that means that MGS = epic fail. Oh, well :)
mexicangordo
Hm?? MGS was alrite in the story department. Nothing too great nothing terrible.
That is absolutely not true, MGS has one of the most developed stories that is well written and told. I dont understand how its not great....As LKS, im glad it got a great score, the Wii is looking fantastic and is finally getting a flurry of good games.
MGS4 has a cool lore attached to it, but as far as the story goes, it's pretty poorly written. Too many plot holes explained by too much nonsense.[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]That is absolutely not true, MGS has one of the most developed stories that is well written and told. I dont understand how its not great....[QUOTE="Espada12"]
Hm?? MGS was alrite in the story department. Nothing too great nothing terrible.
mdisen2
As LKS, im glad it got a great score, the Wii is looking fantastic and is finally getting a flurry of good games.
MGS4 has a cool lore attached to it, but as far as the story goes, it's pretty poorly written. Too many plot holes explained by too much nonsense. MGS4 made it so that the story telling and even the story it self seemed more appealing. I guess you can label it "casual" so that it didn't just appeal to the hardcore fans. Every MGS game before it however, had a really clever and raw written story with so much "food for thought" and depth, it was and still is extreamely unique and great.[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"][QUOTE="PoppaGamer"] Are denying the fact that WIi titles are graded on a different scale than 360/PS3? :lol: Look at a 360/PS3 review and see how they get knocked for framerate, screen tearing, jaggies, etc. Things that occur by pushing the more powerful hardware. If the Wii doesn't have to do that puching, how can the grading be equal? This is common knowledge here in SW. Catch up.PoppaGamer
So in other words, graphics? As I thought. That holds no weight with this game at all. The graphics are great, regardless of system, and from a technical side it performs well. It wouldn't matter what system the game was on, it would score the same. You want to argue that it wouldn't? Play the game first.
Dude, if you straigh ported the game to PS3 or 360 it would get raped on graphics scoring. Are you saying it wouldn't? Again, the point is, THEY AREN'T GRADED ON THE SAME SCALE. You can narrow that to graphics and then pretend its a minor aspect, if you wish. Doesn't change the facts.If that's what you want to believe, then go ahead, but I can tell you now that LKS didn't get it's score because it had good graphics for the system. There REALLY isn't much you can do to the graphics to make them look any better than they are. It's in that style for a reason. If you seriously think that the game would lose points because of graphics then you havn't played enough good games. At the most it might lose a point under a graphics catogory, but the score would remain the same regardless seeing as GS does not use catagories.
MGS4 has a cool lore attached to it, but as far as the story goes, it's pretty poorly written. Too many plot holes explained by too much nonsense. MGS4 made it so that the story telling and even the story it self seemed more appealing. I guess you can label it "casual" so that it didn't just appeal to the hardcore fans. Every MGS game before it however, had a really clever and raw written story with so much "food for thought" and depth, it was and still is extreamely unique and great. I agree. Metal Gear Solid 4 story is pretty deep. The story itself raises a lot of philosophical questions about the state of human nature and nature in general.[QUOTE="mdisen2"][QUOTE="mexicangordo"] That is absolutely not true, MGS has one of the most developed stories that is well written and told. I dont understand how its not great....
As LKS, im glad it got a great score, the Wii is looking fantastic and is finally getting a flurry of good games.
mexicangordo
[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"][QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]
So in other words, graphics? As I thought. That holds no weight with this game at all. The graphics are great, regardless of system, and from a technical side it performs well. It wouldn't matter what system the game was on, it would score the same. You want to argue that it wouldn't? Play the game first.
Dude, if you straigh ported the game to PS3 or 360 it would get raped on graphics scoring. Are you saying it wouldn't? Again, the point is, THEY AREN'T GRADED ON THE SAME SCALE. You can narrow that to graphics and then pretend its a minor aspect, if you wish. Doesn't change the facts.If that's what you want to believe, then go ahead, but I can tell you now that LKS didn't get it's score because it had good graphics for the system. There REALLY isn't much you can do to the graphics to make them look any better than they are. It's in that style for a reason. If you seriously think that the game would lose points because of graphics then you havn't played enough good games. At the most it might lose a point under a graphics catogory, but the score would remain the same regardless seeing as GS does not use catagories.
Right. Because GS doesn't breakdown the review into sections that means they don't take graphics into account. :lol: No LKS wouldn't be knocked for graphics because ITS A WII TITLE!!!!!! You'd have to have one poor looking game to get knocked for graphics on the Wii, or sound for that matter. Again, its real simple, they are not reviewed under the same criteria. /lessonAre denying the fact that WIi titles are graded on a different scale than 360/PS3? :lol: Look at a 360/PS3 review and see how they get knocked for framerate, screen tearing, jaggies, etc. Things that occur by pushing the more powerful hardware. If the Wii doesn't have to do that puching, how can the grading be equal? This is common knowledge here in SW. Catch up.PoppaGamer
So in other words, graphics? As I thought. That holds no weight with this game at all. The graphics are great, regardless of system, and from a technical side it performs well. It wouldn't matter what system the game was on, it would score the same. You want to argue that it wouldn't? Play the game first.
Dude, if you straigh ported the game to PS3 or 360 it would get raped on graphics scoring. Are you saying it wouldn't? Again, the point is, THEY AREN'T GRADED ON THE SAME SCALE. You can narrow that to graphics and then pretend its a minor aspect, if you wish. Doesn't change the facts. Graphics only come into play when the style of the games fails from a technical standpoint. For example a game like Fat Princess has great graphics for the PS3. Where a broken game with glitches and hiccups and screen tearing has bad graphics. As long as the game accomplishes its goal with the style without tech problems it won't likely lose points because of it.[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"][QUOTE="PoppaGamer"] Dude, if you straigh ported the game to PS3 or 360 it would get raped on graphics scoring. Are you saying it wouldn't? Again, the point is, THEY AREN'T GRADED ON THE SAME SCALE. You can narrow that to graphics and then pretend its a minor aspect, if you wish. Doesn't change the facts.PoppaGamer
If that's what you want to believe, then go ahead, but I can tell you now that LKS didn't get it's score because it had good graphics for the system. There REALLY isn't much you can do to the graphics to make them look any better than they are. It's in that style for a reason. If you seriously think that the game would lose points because of graphics then you havn't played enough good games. At the most it might lose a point under a graphics catogory, but the score would remain the same regardless seeing as GS does not use catagories.
Right. Because GS doesn't breakdown the review into sections that means they don't take graphics into account. :lol: No LKS wouldn't be knocked for graphics because ITS A WII TITLE!!!!!! You'd have to have one poor looking game to get knocked for graphics on the Wii, or sound for that matter. Again, its real simple, they are not reviewed under the same criteria. /lessonYet you havn't played the game. Stunning.
"It's a Wii game, there for it's graphics are bad." That's original.
It's an RTS/RPG I imagined the story to be something similar to Pokemon, where it's simple and light, not something intense. Fallout 3 had a terrible story, they didn't mark that down, and that seems like the sort of game you mark down for bad story not this, seems like they were just looking for reasons not to give it an AAA, I mean come on, repetitive sound effects? Same as every game where you do the same things quite a lot...[QUOTE="bobbetybob"][QUOTE="Espada12"]
Poor story = epic fail
Espada12
Yea that's one of the reasons I couldn't finish fallout.. story was so bad, I just got bored.
as always, gameplay>story>graphics[QUOTE="Espada12"]
[QUOTE="bobbetybob"] It's an RTS/RPG I imagined the story to be something similar to Pokemon, where it's simple and light, not something intense. Fallout 3 had a terrible story, they didn't mark that down, and that seems like the sort of game you mark down for bad story not this, seems like they were just looking for reasons not to give it an AAA, I mean come on, repetitive sound effects? Same as every game where you do the same things quite a lot...Regent192
Yea that's one of the reasons I couldn't finish fallout.. story was so bad, I just got bored.
as always, gameplay>story>graphicsIn RPGS all are equal IMO. Even though I can play older RPGS no problem, newer ones better have great atmosphere and a great story. Getting sucked into a RPG requires all these things for me, if one is 1/2 assed it takes so much from the game for me.
[QUOTE="Espada12"]
[QUOTE="wapahala"]
... but that means that MGS = epic fail. Oh, well :)
mexicangordo
Hm?? MGS was alrite in the story department. Nothing too great nothing terrible.
That is absolutely not true, MGS has one of the most developed stories that is well written and told. I dont understand how its not great....As LKS, im glad it got a great score, the Wii is looking fantastic and is finally getting a flurry of good games.
Well I didn't find it too spectacular and I'm a fan of MGS games.. and I sat down and watched every cut scene to boot.
[QUOTE="GANGSTASAN"][QUOTE="EPaul"]No. Because all games dont need to score 9 to be good. who said anything about that? It can still be a good game, even if it had flopped. Learn the definition of "flop"So did it flop?
Sonick54
Well, I was referring to Epaul's posts. He is somewhat showing that this game 'flopped' because it was not an AAA. And yes, I know it can still be a good game.
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