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#51 DonPerian
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MGS Rising is considered an MGS game because it has the letters 'M' standing for 'Metal, 'G' standing for 'Gear', and 'S' standing for Solid. Not to mention it stars one of the main supporting characters from the franchise. BUt no! You figured it out! MGS Rising is NOT an MGS. In fact, all the other platforms any MGS game has graced WEREN'T MGS GAMES AT ALL. HOW FOOLISH ARE WE. KOJIMA IS A MASTERMIND.
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#52 -Pred-Alien-
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While i think MGS4 is the best game of this gen (one of the best ever too) and i loved its mix of heavy-handed storytelling as well as the expanded gameplay, but its maybe nice to finally leave the saga behind and go for a more action-orientated approach. Im disappointed but it could turn out good.
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#53 Ninja-Hippo
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[QUOTE="comeonthehoops"] I thought ODST looked pretty damn awesome. I don't think the rest of SW agrees with me though :P

Actually i made a thread about it and it had a lot of good feedback. Regardless of what system wars thinks, it was well received at E3 by real gamers. :)
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#55 deactivated-59da85d821feb
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="comeonthehoops"] I thought ODST looked pretty damn awesome. I don't think the rest of SW agrees with me though :P

Actually i made a thread about it and it had a lot of good feedback. Regardless of what system wars thinks, it was well received at E3 by real gamers. :)

Is it actually going to be a budget release? I hope the campaign reasonably lengthy. Around 8 hours would be fine if it's a budget release. If it's not, then 10 -12 would be acceptable.
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#56 -Reggaeton-
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I bet its going to use the same engine as castlevania.
Raidens story sounds pretty meh IMO (going to area 51 and rescuing sunny, getting cought and being augmented, escaping). Hope it will be good.

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#57 Lab392
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Everybody out there thinks MGS is going multiplatform, well is it? I don't think so. How can MGS Rising even be considered a MGS game, think about it. Hideo Kojima is not writing the story for it, Solid Snake is not the main character. And also so far every mgs game has been labeled "tactical espionage game". But MGS rising is labeled "Lightning bolt action" meaning gameplay wise it will be completely different from previous mgs games, there probably won't even be any sneaking or stealth action in the game at all. And if you watched the Sony press conference at E3 with Kojima, he himself said he is writing the story for mgs peace walker. And "it will be the next sequal in the mgs series", it will be featuring Big Boss, and it takes place 10 years after mgs3. And you guys are probably wondering, "well why put mgs rising on 360 and pc to begin with, why not just make it exclusive to ps3?". Well the answer is quite simple, its all about the money. The game that every 360 has wanted to play is the mgs series, well now they have it, OR DO THEY LOL! MGS Rising is going to be an action adventure game, that will feature a character from the MGS series (Raiden). And they named the game "Metal Gear Solid" just so people will think its an actual metal gear game and the will go out and buy it. Cuz they know the name it self "Metal Gear" will make it sell, even if it has nothing to do with the series at all. Just like everyone else I was TICKED off at Kojima and Konami for putting MGS on 360 and PC, but now that I think about it, its not even Metal Gear, so why get so upset.

redskins2156

All that you say trying to disconnect MGS:R from MGS is invalid.

1. Whether Kojima directs the game or not is a non-issue. This is an MGS game

2. Whether Snake is the main character or not is a non-issue. The "Solid" in Metal Gear Solid was a term added to the series to describe the 3D graphics of the game.

3. Both the Kojipro Podcast and the ending of the MGS:R trailer call this game a stealth game. (Note: Sneak In.)

4. You know nothing about the game. Don't automatically label it an "action-adventure" game when you haven't even seen the first second of gameplay.

5. Why should you even get upset if MGS is multiplat? Most games in the Metal Gear series have not been PlayStation exclusives. Besides, the more systems this game is on, the more people can enjoy it.

This is a multiplat MGS game. Sour grapes mean nothing.

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#58 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Generalmojo"]

[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

The official name for this game is Metal Gear Rising, so its not really a MGS.

Ninja-Hippo

its a money making spin off lems are getting happy over, hey just like Halo ODST :D

How is ODST a money making spin off when they have a small team developing it and it's a budget price release? :| *facepalm* Also, funny how he insisted it wasn't a stealth game until Konami's conference was quoted. Now he's disappeared.

Does it really matter if their spin offs? And the official name is Meal Gear Solid: Rising.
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Pretty sure it's a stealth based action game not an action only game. Just because Raiden's a cyborg ninja doesn't mean he has slice and dice his way through.
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[QUOTE="comeonthehoops"] I thought ODST looked pretty damn awesome. I don't think the rest of SW agrees with me though :PNinja-Hippo
Actually i made a thread about it and it had a lot of good feedback. Regardless of what system wars thinks, it was well received at E3 by real gamers. :)

I don't understand. People in SW aren't "real" gamers? Fanboy or not we are all real gamers. ODST looks good. I want the SP to be better than Halo 3. The concept is very intriguing.

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#61 -Reggaeton-
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Pretty sure it's a stealth based action game not an action only game. Just because Raiden's a cyborg ninja doesn't mean he has slice and dice his way through.siLVURcross
"Lightning Bolt Action" Doesnt sound like a stealth game to me.
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#62 VitunLehmat
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Chutebox
Does it really matter if their spin offs? And the official name is Meal Gear Solid: Rising.

I just want to know how people came with the conclusion or theory that the game is an spin-off,i remember in other forums reading post of MGS fans that they want so badly a new MGS after 4 with Raiden.
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#63 Lab392
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Pretty sure it's a stealth based action game not an action only game. Just because Raiden's a cyborg ninja doesn't mean he has slice and dice his way through.-Reggaeton-
"Lightning Bolt Action" Doesnt sound like a stealth game to me.

From Konami press conference: "[3:36] It's primarily a stealth-action game, with Raiden as the main character."

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#64 VitunLehmat
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Pretty sure it's a stealth based action game not an action only game. Just because Raiden's a cyborg ninja doesn't mean he has slice and dice his way through.-Reggaeton-
"Lightning Bolt Action" Doesnt sound like a stealth game to me.

Maybe you need to watch the Konami e3 conference?
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#65 BoloTheGreat
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lol cows will think long and hard to try and come to terms with this ..daveg1
I know, its just flat out mind bending to watch them try and twist their logic around. I guess MGS is crap now hu? Isn't this EXACTLY what the PS3 fanboys wanted? A Raiden Game on a HD platform? If this was only on PS3 they would be claiming massive pwnage, just shows the level of cow infestation we have here at SW.
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#66 Keltoid
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Hold on... this opinion based forum post is a "must read"?
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#67 Mckenna1845
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i really don't care which console it's on, as long as it's good. if it sucks ass then the metal gear name should be exclusive to being made by kojima only.
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#68 AAllxxjjnn
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I love how the 360 fans are all happy about this game after they bashed MGS4 to high heaven...and the Sony fans are dismissing this as just a spin off and not a "REAL" MGS experience. :P
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#69 Keltoid
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I love how the 360 fans are all happy about this game after they bashed MGS4 to high heaven...and the Sony fans are dismissing this as just a spin off and not a "REAL" MGS experience. :PAAllxxjjnn
That's what it boils down to. Nice observation there, lol.
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#70 kingsfan_0333
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My initial response to hearing about this game on the 360:

"Now watch all the ps3 fans turn their back on the MGS franchise".

Result = this thread.

If this game was ps3 exclusive it would be "teh owange". But since it's going to be out on the 360, all of a sudden it's not a real part of the series and we've all been fooled.

classic.

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#71 strudel420
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What's that phrase again? Oh yes I believe "damage control" suits this thread nicely.

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#72 simslifer
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LOL the point is Lemmings still don't have or will ever have the Game of the Year AAAAE MGS4 that they were hoping would be anounced at E3 LOL

all they are getting is a multiplat with Rayden not Solid Snake

buy a PS3

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#73 Duckyindiana
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Well it has Metal Gear Solid in the title so its a MGS game no matter how much you try and spin it.:roll:

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#74 djsifer01
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I wanted it on the PS3. I don't have a 360. :( It's probably going to be a great game.

OniStrat
It multiplat PS3/360/PC. Im a huge MGS fan i new it had nothing to do with the series though.
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#75 II-FBIsniper-II
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] How is ODST a money making spin off when they have a small team developing it and it's a budget price release? :| *facepalm*

$60 and $100 is budget price?
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#76 Kahuna_1
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Yeah, it is a forced game that should not exist.

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#77 darkmagician06
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LOL the point is Lemmings still don't have or will ever have the Game of the Year AAAAE MGS4 that they were hoping would be anounced at E3 LOL

buy a PS3

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for 1 game? no thanks
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#78 Phazevariance
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Everybody out there thinks MGS is going multiplatform, well is it? I don't think so. How can MGS Rising even be considered a MGS game, think about it. Hideo Kojima is not writing the story for it, Solid Snake is not the main character. And also so far every mgs game has been labeled "tactical espionage game". But MGS rising is labeled "Lightning bolt action" meaning gameplay wise it will be completely different from previous mgs games, there probably won't even be any sneaking or stealth action in the game at all. And if you watched the Sony press conference at E3 with Kojima, he himself said he is writing the story for mgs peace walker. And "it will be the next sequal in the mgs series", it will be featuring Big Boss, and it takes place 10 years after mgs3. And you guys are probably wondering, "well why put mgs rising on 360 and pc to begin with, why not just make it exclusive to ps3?". Well the answer is quite simple, its all about the money. The game that every 360 has wanted to play is the mgs series, well now they have it, OR DO THEY LOL! MGS Rising is going to be an action adventure game, that will feature a character from the MGS series (Raiden). And they named the game "Metal Gear Solid" just so people will think its an actual metal gear game and the will go out and buy it. Cuz they know the name it self "Metal Gear" will make it sell, even if it has nothing to do with the series at all. Just like everyone else I was TICKED off at Kojima and Konami for putting MGS on 360 and PC, but now that I think about it, its not even Metal Gear, so why get so upset.

redskins2156
If you spin this anymore your going to fling up mud.
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#79 lhughey
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Yeah, it is a forced game that should not exist.

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Which game that hasn't been released and you've not played are you speaking of with such certainty? ODST or MGSR?
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#80 Duckyindiana
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Oh yeah for sure, same here dude. But I'm just trying to get my point across to the fans that are upset that mgs is going multiplat.[QUOTE="bdum_pshhh"]As an MGS fan I will play both.redskins2156

What i find sad is that people would get upset or ticked off at a game going multiplat in the first place! Does it really matter? Also MGS has been multiplat before one of them was on the xbox.

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#81 Kahuna_1
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[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

Yeah, it is a forced game that should not exist.

lhughey

Which game that hasn't been released and you've not played are you speaking of with such certainty? ODST or MGSR?

MGSR, I do not care for Halo games. Kojima does not even care for it, his team and him are working on Peace Walker. He should have just remade MG and MG2 since hardly anyone has gotten a chance to play them.

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#82 swazidoughman
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The only thing I have a problem with is Raiden.

Hopefully he wont be as terrible as he was in MGS2.

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#83 MachoBuzzzy
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I'll get to play both,so i don't give a damn
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#84 ultima-flare
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I wanted it on the PS3. I don't have a 360. :( It's probably going to be a great game.

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It's multiplat
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#85 dommeus
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Everybody out there thinks MGS is going multiplatform, well is it? I don't think so. How can MGS Rising even be considered a MGS game, think about it. Hideo Kojima is not writing the story for it, Solid Snake is not the main character. And also so far every mgs game has been labeled "tactical espionage game". But MGS rising is labeled "Lightning bolt action" meaning gameplay wise it will be completely different from previous mgs games, there probably won't even be any sneaking or stealth action in the game at all. And if you watched the Sony press conference at E3 with Kojima, he himself said he is writing the story for mgs peace walker. And "it will be the next sequal in the mgs series", it will be featuring Big Boss, and it takes place 10 years after mgs3. And you guys are probably wondering, "well why put mgs rising on 360 and pc to begin with, why not just make it exclusive to ps3?". Well the answer is quite simple, its all about the money. The game that every 360 has wanted to play is the mgs series, well now they have it, OR DO THEY LOL! MGS Rising is going to be an action adventure game, that will feature a character from the MGS series (Raiden). And they named the game "Metal Gear Solid" just so people will think its an actual metal gear game and the will go out and buy it. Cuz they know the name it self "Metal Gear" will make it sell, even if it has nothing to do with the series at all. Just like everyone else I was TICKED off at Kojima and Konami for putting MGS on 360 and PC, but now that I think about it, its not even Metal Gear, so why get so upset.

redskins2156
Why get upset in the first place?? Kojima doesn't owe you jack.
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Boo please no crappy action spinoffs.
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#87 Supa__Mario
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it will definately be different from mgs....
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#88 Ryuuichi009
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[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

[QUOTE="Generalmojo"] its a money making spin off lems are getting happy over, hey just like Halo ODST :D

GundamGuy0

Too bad the REAL MG fans are not calling it MGS, so why does the non-MGS fans think they have the right to call it something thats not true?

Hum... appears to be called mgS:Rising to me...

He's surprisingly...ugly. I was hoping he'd be hotter *frowns*
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#89 kingsfan_0333
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LOL the point is Lemmings still don't have or will ever have the Game of the Year AAAAE MGS4 that they were hoping would be anounced at E3 LOL

all they are getting is a multiplat with Rayden not Solid Snake

buy a PS3

simslifer

We aren't getting a game that is a year old, and instead are getting the next installment that you know almost nothing about other than who the main character is?

Ya, that's a good reason to bash this game.

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#90 Ambli
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Cows downplaying a MGS game..

Never thought it'd happen in my lifetime.

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#91 littlestreakier
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don't really know why PS3 owners are complaining...like people have stated before it's a MULTIPLATFORM game so you'll get to enjoy it as well :|

also i agree with that one guy that said MGS1 is the best in the series :).

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#92 xscott1018
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i think it will be a good metal gear game. i don't think they made it just to make more money for having metal gear solid in it's name.
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#93 GundamGuy0
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don't really know why PS3 owners are complaining...like people have stated before it's a MULTIPLATFORM game so you'll get to enjoy it as well :|

also i agree with that one guy that said MGS1 is the best in the series :).

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#94 Supa__Mario
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i think it will be a good metal gear game. i don't think they made it just to make more money for having metal gear solid in it's name.xscott1018
kojimas not even working on it.....i doubt it will get more then 7.5/10....
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#95 TBoogy
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They are copying Splinter Cell Conviction.

Ubisoft is going with more action, less sneaking this time out. Konami doesnt want to lose market share in the west, so they want to do the same.

However, they did not want to risk changing the main title. So what to do? Make a spin off, make it multiplatform, put the true sequel on the PSP.

Now everyone (Sony, MS) is happy!

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#96 DaViD_99
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We never even saw gameplay of this game. Its a Metal Gear Solid game. I do not understand fanboys, both lemmings cows and everyone else. Why would you get upset if they are making it for 360? If the game is good, we all win.
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#97 buuzer0
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Just like everyone else I was TICKED off at Kojima and Konami for putting MGS on 360 and PC, but now that I think about it, its not even Metal Gear, so why get so upset.redskins2156
[QUOTE="kingdre"]

This was on the PS3 board as well. WTH?

Don't feel bad TC. I was hurt too when Kojima announced it on the 360.

Upset? Hurt? Really? Seriously? :lol: The notion of someone being upset that a game is going to be on another console in addition to their own bewilders me. Reminds me of those fanboys who got all butthurt and started a petition when Devil May Cry 4 was announced as multiplat.
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#98 nosedive7
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Lightning Bolt Action could be referring to melee as Raiden is fond of swords or less story more action. Also this game could be the best MGS yet for all we know, if Kojima isn't writing/directing it we may actually get more gameplay than story sequences and I'm personally all for more action. Fact is we have absolutely no idea what form exactly this game will take but everyone who has a system it is set to be released on have the right to be optimistic. There is no reason to think this game won't be as high quality as previous MGS games. If the game isn't good and it really is just to make money its not like everyone will just go out and buy it anyway, just because its a MGS game. If the game is bad it will flop in sales like most games. Not sure what point the OP is trying to make here.

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#99 Disturbed123
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well it is true, it aint trully part of a metal gear, its just a spin off.

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#100 MrSlippery39
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Cows downplaying a MGS game..

Never thought it'd happen in my lifetime.

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