Lol...Nearly all multiplat games at E3 were running on PC, with 360 controllers

So In the end of another of these odd e3 threads the results wer e"those good looking demos are next gen because we can't run them like that"

Well, sorry, they are current gen, both watchdogs and 1313 were playable, with off the shelves hardware, it is not the graphics that were next gen, it is the consoles that are "last gen" when there exists systems right now that can play both, it is freaking CURRENT!

As for the PCs are running most games, then year. there are two reasons, 1 being the visual didelity, the better output. The other just as important point is the fact that they are all debug builds. You pretty much need a pc for most of them since errors in coding might occur, and require access to command prompts and debug comands.

The last of us also looked very good, anyone denying that is blind. It did not looke better then the before mentioned titles tho. But looked close enough that I would call it little less then a coding miracle.

Maddie_Larkin

[QUOTE="Myounage"][QUOTE="7CloudStrife7"]

http://kotaku.com/5916567/e3s-unsolved-mystery-are-watch-dogs-and-star-wars-1313-really-next+gen-games

"I'm not sure about Microsoft, but I do know that Sony won't allow developers to run games off of anything but PS3 tech at their conference (another words, no PC-based demos)."

razgriz_101

at the same time im pretty sure KZ2 in particular was actually a target render and done before hardware was finalized.

Thus why it was done on a PC.

Strangely Heavy rain started out at E3..2006 the same year as KZ2 as a tech demo called the casting.Also its worth mentioning Heavy rain started out as a PC game.

Retort please.

PC wins e3, nice.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]Last of Us ran on a PS3 and it looked better than any multiplat.tormentos

^Funny how I saw the vid and it had way more jaggies...

^Funny how I saw the vid and it had way more jaggies...

mitu123

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

^Funny how I saw the vid and it had way more jaggies...

Jebus213

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

^Funny how I saw the vid and it had way more jaggies...

Jebus213

Funny thing is every video has been highly compressed and you couldnt possibly see the video well enough to make out jaggies and AF.

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Jebus213"] 30FPS, no AA, and 720p FTW. *eagerly waits for your dumbass to post bullshots*Jebus213

Yet anyone who plays UC3 or UC2 or any of ND's games know when you actually plat it they live up to the screenshots. In gernal ND games use like 2xMSAA are now the new MLAA . Its hardly the jaggie miss you make it out to be.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

^Funny how I saw the vid and it had way more jaggies...

Myounage

EDIT: Oh you said low quality SSAO, my mistake.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="tormentos"] WTF bullshots.? The game has incredible graphics there are no bullshots,my god are you Jelly.?AM-Gamer

Yet anyone who plays UC3 or UC2 or any of ND's games know when you actually plat it they live up to the screenshots. In gernal ND games use like 2xMSAA are now the new MLAA . Its hardly the jaggie miss you make it out to be.

Sad part is they decided to plug in a gamepad to play it on stage. If you're going to show the game why not show it at it's finest...with a KB/Mouse and having accuracy rather than none. Other then that...all games are developed on a PC so it's no surprise they'd show it on a PC at E3.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

^Funny how I saw the vid and it had way more jaggies...

AM-Gamer

Funny thing is every video has been highly compressed and you couldnt possibly see the video well enough to make out jaggies and AF.

so it's official? gamepad>>>>>>>>>>>keyboard and mouse

Sad part is they decided to plug in a gamepad to play it on stage. If you're going to show the game why not show it at it's finest...with a KB/Mouse and having accuracy rather than none. Other then that...all games are developed on a PC so it's no surprise they'd show it on a PC at E3.

Puckhog04

E3 is an advert for the consoles, if you gave them a kb and mouse half the visitors would run about sceaming in horror.

so it's official? gamepad>>>>>>>>>>>keyboard and mouse

lazerface216

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

Sad part is they decided to plug in a gamepad to play it on stage. If you're going to show the game why not show it at it's finest...with a KB/Mouse and having accuracy rather than none. Other then that...all games are developed on a PC so it's no surprise they'd show it on a PC at E3.

GarGx1

E3 is an advert for the consoles, if you gave them a kb and mouse half the visitors would run about sceaming in horror.

True, I know most people don't know you can use controllers with a PC so they're just fooling the consolites into believing their hardware is way better than it is.

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

so it's official? gamepad>>>>>>>>>>>keyboard and mouse

JC_Spot

See this guy knows.

That's because almost everything looks better on PC

Surely no one can be surprised by them using PC's instead of consoles

[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="tormentos"] WTF bullshots.? The game has incredible graphics there are no bullshots,my god are you Jelly.?AM-Gamer

Yet anyone who plays UC3 or UC2 or any of ND's games know when you actually plat it they live up to the screenshots. In gernal ND games use like 2xMSAA are now the new MLAA . Its hardly the jaggie miss you make it out to be.

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Jebus213"] 30FPS, no AA, and 720p FTW. *eagerly waits for your dumbass to post bullshots*Jebus213

That's a bullshot?

It doesn't even look that great.

Common sense.

Last of Us ran on a PS3 and it looked better than any multiplat.

Far Cry 3 on PS3 looked horrible tho.

nameless12345

This is the truth.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Jebus213"] 30FPS, no AA, and 720p FTW. *eagerly waits for your dumbass to post bullshots*topgunmv

That's a bullshot?

It doesn't even look that great.

It looks like the game with a bunch of extra AA aplied.

[QUOTE="Maddie_Larkin"]

So In the end of another of these odd e3 threads the results were "those good looking demos are next gen because we can't run them like that"

Well, sorry, they are current gen, both watchdogs and 1313 were playable, with off the shelves hardware, it is not the graphics that were next gen, it is the consoles that are "last gen" when there exists systems right now that can play both, it is freaking CURRENT!

As for the PCs are running most games, then yeah. there are two reasons, 1 being the visual fidelity, the better output. The other just as important point is the fact that they are all debug builds. You pretty much need a pc for most of them since errors in coding might occur, and require access to command prompts and debug comands.

The last of us also looked very good, anyone denying that is blind. It did not looke better then the before mentioned titles tho. But looked close enough that I would call it little less then a coding miracle.

skrat_01

Uhh yeah, exactly, they are running off current off the shelf hardware, hence they are CURRENT gen. I loathe the people calling those demos "Next gen" no, they were playable, and very much current. My pc could likely play them. So they are current, the 360 and PS3 might or might not, atleast not as tehy were shown, but that does not mean the PC should be discounted.

I have a great dislike for people who dismiss systems due to preference, it is really simple, if anything you can buy at the preasent, can run the games, then it is current gen. A disconnect I have with the hype word "next gen". A tech demo might be next gen, since they can rarely be applied into any game, due to the workload, but alot of the things we saw, were pretty much current.

Just as I stated, it was not the games that was "next gen" but the consoles that are "last gen" pretty simple really.

As for 1313 and watchdogs, I am not so sure they ran off any devkits, since I am fairly certain the next batch of consoles have the hardware setteled in for all devs to take a look at. So They were likely built by whatever limitations the PCs had.

My point was, that you can not call something "next gen" when hardware out now for the average consumer can run it.

^Funny how I saw the vid and it had way more jaggies...

mitu123

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"] There are bullshots out and every Last Of Us fanboy seems to like to post this pic. Jebus213

Yet anyone who plays UC3 or UC2 or any of ND's games know when you actually plat it they live up to the screenshots. In gernal ND games use like 2xMSAA are now the new MLAA . Its hardly the jaggie miss you make it out to be.

Nearly all multiplat games at E3 were running on PC....with 360 controllers to fool you.

Gotta love how console "Next-Gen graphics" are running on current gen PC hardware.

Link: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/06/07/pc-gaming-e3s-dirty-little-secret/

Omnisystem

Yup, everything except GRAPHICS KING "Last of Us" and "God of War: Ascension" which were both running in REAL TIME ON PS3!!! Beautiful framerates, no screen tearing and both looked amazing!!!

Last of Us ran on a PS3 and it looked better than any multiplat.

Far Cry 3 on PS3 looked horrible tho.

nameless12345

True Story.

[QUOTE="Omnisystem"]

Nearly all multiplat games at E3 were running on PC....with 360 controllers to fool you.

Gotta love how console "Next-Gen graphics" are running on current gen PC hardware.

Link: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/06/07/pc-gaming-e3s-dirty-little-secret/

HardGames420

Yup, everything except GRAPHICS KING "Last of Us" and "God of War: Ascension" which were both running in REAL TIME ON PS3!!! Beautiful framerates, no screen tearing and both looked amazing!!!

and Beyond

That's a bullshot?

It doesn't even look that great.

topgunmv

PS3 is 2006 hardware.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Maddie_Larkin"]

So In the end of another of these odd e3 threads the results were "those good looking demos are next gen because we can't run them like that"

Well, sorry, they are current gen, both watchdogs and 1313 were playable, with off the shelves hardware, it is not the graphics that were next gen, it is the consoles that are "last gen" when there exists systems right now that can play both, it is freaking CURRENT!

As for the PCs are running most games, then yeah. there are two reasons, 1 being the visual fidelity, the better output. The other just as important point is the fact that they are all debug builds. You pretty much need a pc for most of them since errors in coding might occur, and require access to command prompts and debug comands.

The last of us also looked very good, anyone denying that is blind. It did not looke better then the before mentioned titles tho. But looked close enough that I would call it little less then a coding miracle.

Maddie_Larkin

Uhh yeah, exactly, they are running off current off the shelf hardware, hence they are CURRENT gen. I loathe the people calling those demos "Next gen" no, they were playable, and very much current. My pc could likely play them. So they are current, the 360 and PS3 might or might not, atleast not as tehy were shown, but that does not mean the PC should be discounted.

I have a great dislike for people who dismiss systems due to preference, it is really simple, if anything you can buy at the preasent, can run the games, then it is current gen. A disconnect I have with the hype word "next gen". A tech demo might be next gen, since they can rarely be applied into any game, due to the workload, but alot of the things we saw, were pretty much current.

Just as I stated, it was not the games that was "next gen" but the consoles that are "last gen" pretty simple really.

As for 1313 and watchdogs, I am not so sure they ran off any devkits, since I am fairly certain the next batch of consoles have the hardware setteled in for all devs to take a look at. So They were likely built by whatever limitations the PCs had.

My point was, that you can not call something "next gen" when hardware out now for the average consumer can run it.

[QUOTE="HardGames420"]

[QUOTE="Omnisystem"]

Nearly all multiplat games at E3 were running on PC....with 360 controllers to fool you.

Gotta love how console "Next-Gen graphics" are running on current gen PC hardware.

Link: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/06/07/pc-gaming-e3s-dirty-little-secret/

casharmy

Yup, everything except GRAPHICS KING "Last of Us" and "God of War: Ascension" which were both running in REAL TIME ON PS3!!! Beautiful framerates, no screen tearing and both looked amazing!!!

and Beyond

[QUOTE="Omnisystem"]

Nearly all multiplat games at E3 were running on PC....with 360 controllers to fool you.

Gotta love how console "Next-Gen graphics" are running on current gen PC hardware.

Link: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/06/07/pc-gaming-e3s-dirty-little-secret/

HardGames420

Yup, everything except GRAPHICS KING "Last of Us" and "God of War: Ascension" which were both running in REAL TIME ON PS3!!! Beautiful framerates, no screen tearing and both looked amazing!!!

and no they werent.. no console game in the past 2-3 years omitting the ps3/xbox360's very 1st launch titles were played on anything but a pc.. in fact at many booths the controllers run through the ps3 shell itself and out the back to a pc behind a false wall. or they place the pc in a shell of a ps3. deus ex HR even thought its a multiplat was demoed many times "on a ps3" when in fact it was a pc.. as state dill get some shats to back this up. i can even pull up your quicktime event button que's. sometimes i do that to confuse people watching me play who cant figure out that you can make this so legitimately

Lol, debating whether The Last of Us looks good or not... Are you guys on drugs or something?

The Last of Us is the best looking game I've ever seen in this generation.

Last of Us ran on a PS3 and it looked better than any multiplat.

nameless12345

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Last of Us ran on a PS3 and it looked better than any multiplat.

FashionFreak

Of course it does. You have to be on the drugs if you think otherwise.

[QUOTE="FashionFreak"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Last of Us ran on a PS3 and it looked better than any multiplat.

GamerwillzPS

Of course it does. You have to be on the drugs if you think otherwise.

[QUOTE="FashionFreak"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Last of Us ran on a PS3 and it looked better than any multiplat.

GamerwillzPS

Of course it does. You have to be on the drugs if you think otherwise.

Sure they run on PC, they are all prototypes of the games that will come for consoles at launch in late 2013 and forward

For example Agnes demo is a glimpse of what FF15 on xbox 720 and PS4 will look like

PC is where all games are made anyway, showing a game on PC does not mean it will appear on PC

FF is console only for example, Gears 5 will be the same etc

Sure they run on PC, they are all prototypes of the games that will come for consoles at launch in late 2013 and forward

For example Agnes demo is a glimpse of what FF15 on xbox 720 and PS4 will look like

PC is where all games are made anyway, showing a game on PC does not mean it will appear on PC

FF is console only for example, Gears 5 will be the same etc

loosingENDS

lol by this logic loopingents ff14 and ff11 dont exist nor does ff7. furthermore not every game shown at e3 launches in 2013.. ghost warrior 2 is an example. mechwarrior online is another. guildwars 2 is another. would you like more examples.

your logic as as skewed and ignorant as ever lootingtrends

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="FashionFreak"]

mitu123

Of course it does. You have to be on the drugs if you think otherwise.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="FashionFreak"]

C_Rule

Of course it does. You have to be on the drugs if you think otherwise.

I think the reason why The Last of us looked so good was not just the graphics itself. But the animation, the environments, and the small details that most other devs would have dropped, like the blood coming out of his nose as he is getting hit, the facial animation. The voice acting and audio also completes the package.

And if The Last of us was shown using a PC...it would have been too awesome to look at :-).

[QUOTE="C_Rule"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Of course it does. You have to be on the drugs if you think otherwise.

hardmicro

again i need to ask.. who in the blue heck.. are you? i dont think ive caught your first name..??

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Maddie_Larkin"]

So In the end of another of these odd e3 threads the results were "those good looking demos are next gen because we can't run them like that"

Well, sorry, they are current gen, both watchdogs and 1313 were playable, with off the shelves hardware, it is not the graphics that were next gen, it is the consoles that are "last gen" when there exists systems right now that can play both, it is freaking CURRENT!

As for the PCs are running most games, then yeah. there are two reasons, 1 being the visual fidelity, the better output. The other just as important point is the fact that they are all debug builds. You pretty much need a pc for most of them since errors in coding might occur, and require access to command prompts and debug comands.

The last of us also looked very good, anyone denying that is blind. It did not looke better then the before mentioned titles tho. But looked close enough that I would call it little less then a coding miracle.

Maddie_Larkin

Uhh yeah, exactly, they are running off current off the shelf hardware, hence they are CURRENT gen. I loathe the people calling those demos "Next gen" no, they were playable, and very much current. My pc could likely play them. So they are current, the 360 and PS3 might or might not, atleast not as tehy were shown, but that does not mean the PC should be discounted.

I have a great dislike for people who dismiss systems due to preference, it is really simple, if anything you can buy at the preasent, can run the games, then it is current gen. A disconnect I have with the hype word "next gen". A tech demo might be next gen, since they can rarely be applied into any game, due to the workload, but alot of the things we saw, were pretty much current.

Just as I stated, it was not the games that was "next gen" but the consoles that are "last gen" pretty simple really.

As for 1313 and watchdogs, I am not so sure they ran off any devkits, since I am fairly certain the next batch of consoles have the hardware setteled in for all devs to take a look at. So They were likely built by whatever limitations the PCs had.

My point was, that you can not call something "next gen" when hardware out now for the average consumer can run it.