Looks like 4K gaming will start to happen sooner than I thought (on PC ofcourse)

I know consolites, 4K doesn't matter.

Cry some more.

Anyway, The new AMD powerhouse, the R9 290X will be available for pre-order in Oct 3rd. 

6 Billion Transistors.

300 GB/s memory bandwitdh with a 512 bit memory bus.

4 Gigs of dedicated GDDR5.

5 (!$$#!!!) Tera Flops of compute performance.

AMD is basically billing it as the first card to make 4K gaming possible, specially thanks to "to the metal" optimizaitons possible thanks to the Mantle API.

The only block left to fall is decent 4K panels that are withint a resonable price.

I think I'm going to save up and 2014 will be the year I go 4K.  Anyone else that crazy too?

Honest question: Wouldn't the moniter/TV have to be 37" minimum to tell the difference?Spartan070

Honest question: Wouldn't the moniter/TV have to be 37" minimum to tell the difference?Spartan070

My next monitor purchase will be a 4k tv... but it probably won't happen for a couple of years... b/c I don't hate money enough.

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]Honest question: Wouldn't the moniter/TV have to be 37" minimum to tell the difference?FPSfan1985

I rather keep my 120hz display. Until they come out with a format than support 4k @ 120hz ill pass.FPSfan1985

YHeah this is the big thing for me too. 120hz is so sweet,... but 4K... Argh!

...all with a 27" 4K moniter for less than the price of a PS4 right?Spartan070

Probably 30+ inches 4K panel I would imagine. 27" would be too small even for 2-4 feet away.

Who said anything about a PS4? Can a PS4 game at 4K? Can it run photoshop, premier and Visual Studio?  Jeebus.

[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"]I rather keep my 120hz display. Until they come out with a format than support 4k @ 120hz ill pass.Kinthalis

YHeah this is the big thing for me too. 120hz is so sweet,... but 4K... Argh!

I'd rather have CGI level graphics at 1080p than PS360 graphics at 4K. No way even that AMD chip can run anything amazing looking at a constant 60fps at 4K. Magescrew

It has the moemry bandwidth and footprint for 4K. IT';l; come down to compute performance, but it's over twice as powerful as a PS4.

Maybe not MAXED/ULTRA at 60 FPS, but high/Very high at 50-60 should be doable.

Anbd that's NOW. I won't be looking for a screen until end of 2014/early 2015. By then the next cards will drop as well, meaning I cna pick up 2 280's or 290's for less, or a single one of the new GPU's.

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[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"]I rather keep my 120hz display. Until they come out with a format than support 4k @ 120hz ill pass.m3Boarder32

YHeah this is the big thing for me too. 120hz is so sweet,... but 4K... Argh!

New standards support 60 hz on 4K panels.

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]...all with a 27" 4K moniter for less than the price of a PS4 right?Kinthalis

Probably 30+ inches 4K panel I would imagine. 27" would be too small even for 2-4 feet away.

Who said anything about a PS4? Can a PS4 game at 4K? Can it run photoshop, premier and Visual Studio?  Jeebus.

[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]Honest question: Wouldn't the monitor/TV have to be 37" minimum to tell the difference?Magescrew

I highly doubt that you're looking for or paying enough attention to the details then. I have horrible vision and without my glasses I can easily tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on a phone or even on a 22" LCD. It's very noticeable it's just most likely you don't care enough to notice it which isn't a bad thing because I wish I was like that. I can no longer play pc games at 720p even if I get a more stable frame rate. I hate my eyes for that now because its very annoying and distracting. So you're lucky in my opinion, but again if you know what to look for it becomes very noticeable regardless of screen size.

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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]...all with a 27" 4K moniter for less than the price of a PS4 right?Spartan070

Probably 30+ inches 4K panel I would imagine. 27" would be too small even for 2-4 feet away.

Who said anything about a PS4? Can a PS4 game at 4K? Can it run photoshop, premier and Visual Studio?  Jeebus.

I've got a 27 inch monitor at 1440p and it's a bit smallish. In games it's great. The detial is amazing, but on desktop duty I need to scale things up a bit sometimes, or move the monitor closer than my preferred 4 feet or so.

So I guess 4K would be fine, But I'd need to scale up my desktop.

lol, cuz resolution makes games bettah!!!

:lol:

even if i had a pc that would run 4k i would still put the power allocation into things i think are more important like draw distance, particle effects, ground clutter, lighting, water effects and so on.

resolution is always the last thing i bump up after everything else has been maxed.

I don't know much about 4K but definitely looking forward to an upgrade in visuals. Would dual GTX 690's perform on a 4K TV?RimacBugatti

I won't be switching to 4k anytime soon, just because it would make my older games that run in lowe resolutions look absolutely terrible. Fallout scaled up to my native resolution is already really tiny, I doubt I would be able to see anything at 4k resolution.

depends how much 4k monitors are

If its affordable maybe

[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"]I rather keep my 120hz display. Until they come out with a format than support 4k @ 120hz ill pass.Kinthalis

 YHeah this is the big thing for me too. 120hz is so sweet,... but 4K... Argh!

I also would go for 1080p120 rather than 2160p60. 

But damn - so many Terry Flops. 

[QUOTE="Magescrew"][QUOTE="FPSfan1985"] Naw. Pixel density is one of those things you just can't miss. Even on a screen as small a phone subtle changes to resolution are noticeable.bigblunt537

I highly doubt that you're looking for or paying enough attention to the details then. I have horrible vision and without my glasses I can easily tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on a phone or even on a 22" LCD. It's very noticeable it's just most likely you don't care enough to notice it which isn't a bad thing because I wish I was like that. I can no longer play pc games at 720p even if I get a more stable frame rate. I hate my eyes for that now because its very annoying and distracting. So you're lucky in my opinion, but again if you know what to look for it becomes very noticeable regardless of screen size.

Consoles, always behind in gfx and performance. 

Every gen.

Love to but I cant game on the PC unless its on a 120hz moinitor. Its mainly the fast pace FPS that look bad at 60hz, and its probably the only thing I would play on the PC. So I'll stick to what I have. Cant see myself getting a 4k TV or monitor any time soon either. In 5 or 6 years maybe. 

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[QUOTE="Magescrew"] People see what they want to see. I have 20/20 vision and I can barely see any difference between 720p, 1080p, and a Retina Display on anything under a 6 inch screen. Even my original Nexus 7, which is 800p, looks insanely good if you don't hold it next to your eye. Magescrew

I highly doubt that you're looking for or paying enough attention to the details then. I have horrible vision and without my glasses I can easily tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on a phone or even on a 22" LCD. It's very noticeable it's just most likely you don't care enough to notice it which isn't a bad thing because I wish I was like that. I can no longer play pc games at 720p even if I get a more stable frame rate. I hate my eyes for that now because its very annoying and distracting. So you're lucky in my opinion, but again if you know what to look for it becomes very noticeable regardless of screen size.

Well when browsing websites, watching movies and playing games I notice a difference. With the homecreen I don't notice much of a difference except widgets using up less space, but browsing is definitely easier with a 1080p display.

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YHeah this is the big thing for me too. 120hz is so sweet,... but 4K... Argh!

Kinthalis

New standards support 60 hz on 4K panels.

No thanks; I don't like RTS and I don't play WoW

I'd rather have CGI level graphics at 1080p than PS360 graphics at 4K. No way even that AMD chip can run anything amazing looking at a constant 60fps at 4K. Magescrew

How many times does it have to be explained that CGI level graphics are not possible at 1080p? MOVIES can be CGI quality at 1080p, because they're not rendered in real time. And when the rendering  is  done (long before you see the film), it's at much higher resolutions. For CGI-quality in real-time, higher resolutions (among other things) are necessary.

No thanks; I don't like RTS and I don't play WoW

Pray_to_me

Proof that the trolls don't even try anymore.

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]...all with a 27" 4K moniter for less than the price of a PS4 right?Kinthalis

Probably 30+ inches 4K panel I would imagine. 27" would be too small even for 2-4 feet away.

Who said anything about a PS4? Can a PS4 game at 4K? Can it run photoshop, premier and Visual Studio?  Jeebus.

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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"] Lol 30hz on a LCD Monitor. That's unbearable! Someone PM me when I can get a 4K OLED or Plasma TVm3Boarder32

New standards support 60 hz on 4K panels.

Is it possible?  I don't know enough about Plasma to know if high pixel density is an issue wiht that tech or no.  4K PLasma TV with a gmaing PC.. my god, that must be what heaven feels like.

Honest question: Wouldn't the moniter/TV have to be 37" minimum to tell the difference?Spartan070

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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]...all with a 27" 4K moniter for less than the price of a PS4 right?lowe0

Probably 30+ inches 4K panel I would imagine. 27" would be too small even for 2-4 feet away.

Who said anything about a PS4? Can a PS4 game at 4K? Can it run photoshop, premier and Visual Studio?  Jeebus.

Because nobody who's not a working professional would ever use Visual Studio for any purpose, right?

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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]...all with a 27" 4K moniter for less than the price of a PS4 right?lowe0

Probably 30+ inches 4K panel I would imagine. 27" would be too small even for 2-4 feet away.

Who said anything about a PS4? Can a PS4 game at 4K? Can it run photoshop, premier and Visual Studio?  Jeebus.

They do, but I always have my own personal projects I like ot work with on my own PC. There are other day to day tasks that I can't do easily or at all on a gaming console, that I CAN do on a PC. Like replying to your post :)

No thanks; I don't like RTS and I don't play WoW

Pray_to_me

i've never seen any 4k pc monitors yet for sale, i'm thinking cause they costs thousands and nobody would buy them yet? i've seen larger 60-70 inch tv types for upwards of 20-30 thousand dollars. i don't think people are gonna be switching anytime soon if the cost of 4k pc monitors is similar. I have a 2560x1440 monitor and i don't see much need for anything higher, any edges i can remove with 2x-4x AA easily. actually some games actually look better on my 1080p tv then they do on my 2k monitor.nicecall

Increasing resolution isn't just about removing jagged edges. It's about actual level of detail. The more pixels, the more detail. That's why people have been so upset about the new consoles still not enforcing a 1080p standard.  Current-gen  games already have detailed enough textures that less than 1080p won't display them properly. Even games that aren't considered to be the top-of-the-line graphics games. Dark Souls, for instance. The PC version is a bare-bones port of the 360 version, with all the same assets, including textures. When you compare the game at default resolution (360 res, 720p-ish), to the exact same textures being rendered in 1080p with DSfix, there's more detail immediately visable, on almost all surfaces and items. 

Games have already hit the point that increasing level of detail on objects and textures won't do anything without also increasing render resolution. 

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

 

Probably 30+ inches 4K panel I would imagine. 27" would be too small even for 2-4 feet away.

 

Who said anything about a PS4? Can a PS4 game at 4K? Can it run photoshop, premier and Visual Studio?  Jeebus.

the_bi99man

Because nobody who's not a working professional would ever use Visual Studio for any purpose, right?

[QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]

No thanks; I don't like RTS and I don't play WoW

Masenkoe

Proof that the trolls don't even try anymore.

That's pretty much all he does

2014? So by 2016 it should be to the point where PC users get about 12 games a year that use 4k with half of those being console ports patched to support 4k but not give true 4k.

When PC games adapt true 4k with a lot of titles it will be because consoles are out that run 4k games. Because lets face it, the biggest PC games that arent mmo's are usually cross platform. Sure PC has a lot of great games only on PC but they are few and far between, the majority of them are little indie games, shovelware and console ports.

Its those pc master race guys though that make me embarassed to say I have a good pc and I like playing games on it.

2014? So by 2016 it should be to the point where PC users get about 12 games a year that use 4k with half of those being console ports patched to support 4k but not give true 4k.

 

When PC games adapt true 4k with a lot of titles it will be because consoles are out that run 4k games. Because lets face it, the biggest PC games that arent mmo's are usually cross platform. Sure PC has a lot of great games only on PC but they are few and far between, the majority of them are little indie games, shovelware and console ports.

 

Its those pc master race guys though that make me embarassed to say I have a good pc and I like playing games on it.

Gargus

no, just no