Low settings vs consoles - which looks better?

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#51 lundy86_4  Online
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It's funny how I am misrepresenting the truth, when all my evidence can be verified via the video feeds supplied by shadowmoses :lol:

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#52 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Ok. Take the same video. Blow it up at a 1080p resolution and take a screencap. Then proceed to upload it to an imaging site in as lossless format as you can get it, and post it here. We'll wait :lol:

Keep in mind that this is the exact video you posted :lol:

Riadon2

Ok. One of these images from one of the console versions, the other is the PC version. Not going to tell you which. Can you tell me which one is PC?

http://attackofthefanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/elder-scrolls-comparison.jpg

Just like my videos proved, the PC version is hardly any different.

They are hardly different, assuming you are using a cell-phone sized screen.

Knowing you, I wouldn't be surprised.

No fool. Here are some others. This time with the labels, both taken from the videos I linked (Lundy is misprepesenting them).

comapreeee.jpg

video_994.jpg

As you can see hardly any difference, if I took away the labels you couldn't tell. Only visible difference is in the second image you can see some more grass in the PC version that loaded in, but that's it. Barely any difference from the console version.

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#53 Riadon2
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It's funny how I am misrepresenting the truth, when all my evidence can be verified via the video feeds supplied by shadowmoses :lol:

lundy86_4

I don't know why one would take YouTube videos as evidence anyhow. They are ridiculously compressed, locked at 30 FPS, and the audio is locked at 192 kbps.

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#54 Riadon2
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[QUOTE="Riadon2"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Ok. One of these images from one of the console versions, the other is the PC version. Not going to tell you which. Can you tell me which one is PC?

http://attackofthefanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/elder-scrolls-comparison.jpg

Just like my videos proved, the PC version is hardly any different.

ShadowMoses900

They are hardly different, assuming you are using a cell-phone sized screen.

Knowing you, I wouldn't be surprised.

No fool. Here are some others. This time with the labels, both taken from the videos I linked (Lundy is misprepesenting them).

comapreeee.jpg

video_994.jpg

As you can see hardly any difference, if I took away the labels you couldn't tell. Only visible difference is in the second image you can see some more grass in the PC version that loaded in, but that's it. Barely any difference from the console version.

Oh yay, more iPhone sized screenshots.

And the funny thing is, I can still tell which is the PC version.

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#55 lundy86_4  Online
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I don't know why one would take YouTube videos as evidence anyhow. They are ridiculously compressed, locked at 30 FPS, and the audio is locked at 192 kbps.

Riadon2

Exactly. Youtube can never accurately represent the differences (same with many uploading sites, even GS).

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#56 clyde46
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It's funny how I am misrepresenting the truth, when all my evidence can be verified via the video feeds supplied by shadowmoses :lol:

lundy86_4
He's just an idiot.
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#57 lundy86_4  Online
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Shadow, what resolution are those shots being displayed at? I'm going to give you the chance to argue your shots...

[spoiler]

  1. 738x416
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Is that the rendering resolution on the consoles?

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#58 lundy86_4  Online
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

It's funny how I am misrepresenting the truth, when all my evidence can be verified via the video feeds supplied by shadowmoses :lol:

clyde46

He's just an idiot.

Incredibly difficult to argue against, at this point. It's fun watching him squirm, though :P

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#59 Riadon2
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

It's funny how I am misrepresenting the truth, when all my evidence can be verified via the video feeds supplied by shadowmoses :lol:

lundy86_4

He's just an idiot.

Incredibly difficult to argue against, at this point. It's fun watching him squirm, though :P

He's not a very good troll. He should learn from lowe0.

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#60 ShadowMoses900
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I don't know why one would take YouTube videos as evidence anyhow. They are ridiculously compressed, locked at 30 FPS, and the audio is locked at 192 kbps.

Riadon2

There is nothing wrong with Youtube at all. Watch the videos in HD and you'll have no problems. You're just trying to dismiss it because it destroys your argument entirely.

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#61 lundy86_4  Online
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There is nothing wrong with Youtube at all. Watch the videos in HD and you'll have no problems. You're just trying to dismiss it because it destroys your argument entirely.

ShadowMoses900

My screenshots were taken directly from Youtube, at the highest selectable resolution :lol:

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#62 Riadon2
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[QUOTE="Riadon2"]

I don't know why one would take YouTube videos as evidence anyhow. They are ridiculously compressed, locked at 30 FPS, and the audio is locked at 192 kbps.

ShadowMoses900

There is nothing wrong with Youtube at all. Watch the videos in HD and you'll have no problems. You're just trying to dismiss it because it destroys your argument entirely.

I don't have an argument, I just think that you are an idiot.

There is no reason to argue with a troll, easier to just point and laugh.

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#63 HaloinventedFPS
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PC because of higher resolutiuon & framerate

Console games mostly run at low settings compared to the PC version, meaning lower res shadows, textures, no AF/AA, lower draw distance, etc etc, if the game was lead platform on consoles (which 99% of multiplats are), Higher settings barely look better

Compare even BF3 on Low to Ultra, the difference is tiny, with most console ports the biggest difference is shadows, which are much higher res on PC, but these games are designed with console limits in mind, so they tend to hide the low res shadows & such really well, which in turn makes higher settings on PC look barely noticable

Compare actual PC games to the console versions, the difference is huge, Crysis, Risen, Metro 2033 etc etc but don't bother comparing the average multiplat, since the PC version is just a port with a few tweaks

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#64 the_bi99man
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[QUOTE="Riadon2"]

I don't know why one would take YouTube videos as evidence anyhow. They are ridiculously compressed, locked at 30 FPS, and the audio is locked at 192 kbps.

ShadowMoses900

There is nothing wrong with Youtube at all. Watch the videos in HD and you'll have no problems. You're just trying to dismiss it because it destroys your argument entirely.

And you said, in this thread, that everyone else doesn't know anything about tech.

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why do you enjoy making yourself look like an idiot so much shadow? lol youve never won an argument on here, and never will because you continue to argue about things that youve already lost at lol, give it a week and there will be a thread where he will be arguing this exact same thing, at this point it sounds like your just trying to convince yourself
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#66 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

There is nothing wrong with Youtube at all. Watch the videos in HD and you'll have no problems. You're just trying to dismiss it because it destroys your argument entirely.

lundy86_4

My screenshots were taken directly from Youtube, at the highest selectable resolution :lol:

And then they were clearly doctored or blown up to massive proportions to make them look worse than they already are, or your camera just sucks ass (not surprising as you clearly know nothing about tech).

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#67 the_bi99man
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Everyone should go check out shadow's thread asking about the amount of content in Far Cry 3. He just posted two pics that he claimed were from the 360 and PC version, pointing out how there's no difference, but they're literally the same picture. Look at the URLs. He's so desperate, it's almost not funny.:lol:

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#68 lundy86_4  Online
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And then they were clearly doctored or blown up to massive proportions to make them look worse than they already are, or your camera just sucks ass (not surprising as you clearly know nothing about tech).

ShadowMoses900

They are displayed at the exact size that they were taken. Look at the dimensions. It is all verifiable, Shadow. Sorry :(

My camera? You talk about tech, and then assume that I take screenshots with a camera? :lol: What?

This si totally what I used, Shadow:

original.jpg

:lol:

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#69 the_bi99man
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

And then they were clearly doctored or blown up to massive proportions to make them look worse than they already are, or your camera just sucks ass (not surprising as you clearly know nothing about tech).

lundy86_4

They are displayed at the exact size that they were taken. Look at the dimensions. It is all verifiable, Shadow. Sorry :(

My camera? You talk about tech, and then assume that I take screenshots with a camera? :lol: What?

This is getting absolutely pathetic.

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

There is nothing wrong with Youtube at all. Watch the videos in HD and you'll have no problems. You're just trying to dismiss it because it destroys your argument entirely.

ShadowMoses900

My screenshots were taken directly from Youtube, at the highest selectable resolution :lol:

And then they were clearly doctored or blown up to massive proportions to make them look worse than they already are, or your camera just sucks ass (not surprising as you clearly know nothing about tech).

Because those shots were cleeaaaarly taken with a camera.

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#71 lundy86_4  Online
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Everyone should go check out shadow's thread asking about the amount of content in Far Cry 3. He just posted two pics that he claimed were from the 360 and PC version, pointing out how there's no difference, but they're literally the same picture. Look at the URLs. He's so desperate, it's almost not funny.:lol:

the_bi99man

Oh... My... God... Exactly the same screens:

There is little difference, see for yourself. One image is from the 360 version and the other is from the PC version. I removed the system logos from both.

http://images.vg247.com/current//2012/09/Vaas_NO_LOGO.jpg

http://images.vg247.com/current//2012/09/Vaas_NO_LOGO.jpg

Can you tell which version is which? Didn't think so.

ShadowMoses900

He removed the system logos, and yet hosted them via VG247... Their own site... Where he doesn't have hosting privileges?

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#72 lundy86_4  Online
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This is getting absolutely pathetic.

the_bi99man

Terribly so. I feel bad for Shadow. He's either the world's worst troll, or the world's biggest idiot... I'm not sure that they are mutually exclusive, either :lol:

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#73 Riadon2
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[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

This is getting absolutely pathetic.

lundy86_4

Terribly so. I feel bad for Shadow. He's either the world's worst troll, or the world's biggest idiot... I'm not sure that they are mutually exclusive, either :lol:

He's not much worse than any other hardcore cow like PinnacleGamingP or Gpuking

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#74 ShadowMoses900
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Happy holidays everyone. Good night.

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#75 lundy86_4  Online
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Happy holidays everyone. Good night.

ShadowMoses900

:lol:

Dude, you got ruined. Best... Christmas... Present... Ever...

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#76 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Happy holidays everyone. Good night.

lundy86_4

:lol:

Dude, you got ruined. Best... Christmas... Present... Ever...

Nah this is the best christmas present ever

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#77 lundy86_4  Online
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Happy holidays everyone. Good night.

ShadowMoses900

:lol:

Dude, you got ruined. Best... Christmas... Present... Ever...

Nah this is the best christmas present ever

Nope. You looking like a complete tw@t, fills even the most down and out kids, with joy... They laugh at you.

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#78 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

:lol:

Dude, you got ruined. Best... Christmas... Present... Ever...

lundy86_4

Nah this is the best christmas present ever

Nope. You looking like a complete tw@t, fills even the most down and out kids, with joy... They laugh at you.

Lundy's mad that his PC is barely better than the console version.

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#79 lundy86_4  Online
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Lundy's mad that his PC is barely better than the console version.

ShadowMoses900

:lol:

My PC is terribad in comparison to modern PC's, and yet it's still "barely better"... How does that classify PC's over 10x more powerful than mine?

Awwwwkward... Shadow just admitted to notable differences... Completely by mistake.

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[QUOTE="Riadon2"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Ok. One of these images from one of the console versions, the other is the PC version. Not going to tell you which. Can you tell me which one is PC?

http://attackofthefanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/elder-scrolls-comparison.jpg

Just like my videos proved, the PC version is hardly any different.

ShadowMoses900

They are hardly different, assuming you are using a cell-phone sized screen.

Knowing you, I wouldn't be surprised.

No fool. Here are some others. This time with the labels, both taken from the videos I linked (Lundy is misprepesenting them).

comapreeee.jpg

video_994.jpg

As you can see hardly any difference, if I took away the labels you couldn't tell. Only visible difference is in the second image you can see some more grass in the PC version that loaded in, but that's it. Barely any difference from the console version.

Yeah, the PC version looks a lot better than the PS3 version.

You're really bad at proving your point, you know that?

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#81 silversix_
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casual gamers post on gaming forums? I thought they play CoD and know nothing else than twitter/facebook
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#82 clyde46
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Hey shadow, do you know anything about resolution? Do you want another schooling?
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#83 dercoo
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I would say consoles for stability reasons.

All consoles will run a game at a near constant quality level.

A PC running on low settings is likely streching the limits to being able to play the game.

A PC just reaching the minimum system requirements will have a quality jumping hell ride.

Now, an above specs PC going low could be better than consoles, but that depends on the game itself.

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#84 GamingVengeance
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Hey shadow, do you know anything about resolution? Do you want another schooling?clyde46
lol iv lost count how many times youve had to explain that stuff to him
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#85 ArisShadows
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Shadomoses.. Is this how you hear people, because honestly you can't be this idiotic right? Right?

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[QUOTE="Riadon2"]

I don't know why one would take YouTube videos as evidence anyhow. They are ridiculously compressed, locked at 30 FPS, and the audio is locked at 192 kbps.

ShadowMoses900

There is nothing wrong with Youtube at all. Watch the videos in HD and you'll have no problems. You're just trying to dismiss it because it destroys your argument entirely.

I did as you said and it looks exactly the same as Lundy's pic. btw your skyrim bullshots are below 720p. skyrim on the 360 runs at about 420p, while skyrim on PC can run at 1660p. are you seriously trying to ignore the huge leap in resolution? BTW you aint the shadow moses im used to right? (the jewish guy who loves israel and justifies everything about it)
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#87 lightleggy
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Wait guys...why are we even replying to him?
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#88 Rocker6
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Which looks better, depends on the resolution played. A low native 1080p should have a better overall image quality than console 720p, I guess. But low 720p vs console 720p, I'd give consoles an edge here, as they aren't exactly running 100% low PC settings. There are a few higher settings mixed in there...

Still, the thing I'd consider the most is the frame rate. If I could maintain at least a stable 45+ FPS on PC low settings, I'd take it over consoles any day...

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#89 nameless12345
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inb4 loosing ends claiming how The Witcher 2 on 360 looks far better than the PC version on best settings... :P

Console versions are usually a mixture of low and medium PC settings, occasionally with some extra effect here and there. (like colored lighting in the Crysis port or better shadows in The Witcher 2 port.)

They used to be competitive to high-end PCs but that was years ago.

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#90 noobmuhaha
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crysis 2 on low settings on pc looks better than ps3/360

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#91 noobmuhaha
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inb4 loosing ends claiming how The Witcher 2 on 360 looks far better than the PC version on best settings... :P

Console versions are usually a mixture of low and medium PC settings, occasionally with some extra effect here and there. (like colored lighting in the Crysis port or better shadows in The Witcher 2 port.)

They used to be competitive to high-end PCs but that was years ago.

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They were never competitive with pc. call of duty 2 launch title was piss poor graphically compared to pc and supported 8 players vs 64 on pc,.
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#92 noobmuhaha
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n64 was the only console ever competitive with pc around it's launch.

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#93 noobmuhaha
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star wars on n64 was comparable to pc version but pc was still sharper with a good card.

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#94 ionusX
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from what ive seem most times they are the same on low.

Sometimes it is a bit better low on PC than console on games like BF3. But for the most part they are the same.

MW2ismygame

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#95 Ballroompirate
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I have no idea why someone would play a PC game on low settings, they can look pretty bad.

Planetside 2 on lowest settings

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#96 Goyoshi12
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I have no idea why someone would play a PC game on low settings, they can look pretty bad.

Planetside 2 on lowest settings

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Ballroompirate

Not to play, just for comparrison. Like are PC's really better even at the lowest setting?

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#97 Ballroompirate
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[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

I have no idea why someone would play a PC game on low settings, they can look pretty bad.

Planetside 2 on lowest settings

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Goyoshi12

Not to play, just for comparrison. Like are PC's really better even at the lowest setting?

Graphics wise lowest setting on some PC games can look pretty bland, gameplay wise it all depends how the game is optimized and if you're online or offline. Planetside 2 and WoW are the only games I've played online with low settings, PLS2 still lagged in big fights while WoW I played on lowest setting back when it first came out during MC, had to turn down the settings cause 40 people in a raid environment back then was killer on PCs. I remember playing The Witcher when it first came out on low setting cause my comp at the time was some crappy Walmart HP.

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#99 Cranler
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Consoles are perfetly fine for graphics and resolution, the PC fanboys (Hermits) just overexaggerate things.

Here is the reality: Graphics Comparison - Far Cry 3 - GameSpot.com

See barely any difference, even on ultra. This is how it is for pretty much every game.

Modern Warfare 3 - Xbox 360, Ps3 & PC Comparison ... - YouTube

Elders Scroll's Skyrim - Xbox 360, Ps3 & PC comparison - YouTube

Crysis 2 - PS3 vs Xbox 360 vs PC - Console Comparison ... - IGN

And remember, the best looking game ever made is Uncharted 3. And it's only on consoles (though The Last of Us will replace it as graphics king soon). Same goes for Metal Gear Ground Zeros, it's a console game and it rivals anything on PC.

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Lol, FC 3 on console looks like the original Far Cry from 2004.FC 3

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#100 gamebreakerz__
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Depends what game. Also, if 'low' is 1080p then yes I would take that. If low meant lowest settings and 720p then probably consoles.