M$ is still in denial over weak Xbone specs

The PS1 and PS3 was $100 more expensive than the N64, Gamecube and Dreamcast.. It wasn't the most expensive, but it was the second most expensive out of the other 3 systems.

What can he say? When he knows the Xbone wont be as powerful as the PS4, all he can do is just spin.

@NathanDrakeSwag: 8? How many are Indies? 5?

What's up with all this aggravation from cows? They're so aggressive it's toxic. I can barely stand this place anymore even if it's 15 times slower than 6 years ago.

Cows gonna cow.

I almost bought an X1. Until I read an article about it's hardware flaws. Then got a PS4 for my 55"

BF4 having higher resolution on PS4. Was all the proof I needed.

It's not that Microsoft is in denial, it's that there isn't a whole helluva lot that Microsoft can do with the hardware already being out. They lost the hardware front this gen so it's natural for them to downplay the significance of hardware and instead go after their game lineup. That's where they are going to focus because that is still something that they can change and improve upon.

So is this gonna be like their thing this gen? Just keep making up new excuses every month for why their games look and run like shit? It's already getting kind of old at this point...

So better frame time, I assume?

@kuu2: the PS3 destroyed the Xbox 360 last generation in games. Show me one Xbox 360 exclusive GOTY.

@Indicud: Doesn't mean shit, there are thousand "publications" that hand out "game of the year awards" to everybody and their grandma.

then by all means, do not let the door hit you on your way out.

@NathanDrakeSwag said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

When it comes down to it, the ONE will do just fine. Sony on the other hand.........................

Oh and almost forgot. LOL NDS thread.

If losing all the marketshare the 360 gained them last gen and having every game on their system look and run like complete shit.is considered fine.

LOL cows are so delusional. As if the PS4 is performing ANY better. Any half good looking game struggles beyond 30fps. Shit looks exactly the same but at a moderately higher resolution than the X1, let's be honest you need articles to point out the difference and you need to argue it. This entire gen is a joke so far. APUs my ass, I had a bad feeling when I first found out they were using APUs.

It's like when I got the Wii, I made so many excuses about the graphics in the beginning. It's exactly the same this gen. Embarrassingly last gen consoles hold up to the current gen ones.

You're right TC, MS guy's talking shit, graphics on current gen consoles is only going to get a bit better than they're now.

I see most don't read beyond these clickbait forums please go read the AMD slides at MS BUILD14 and tell me MS and the X1 aren't ahead of the game again and great stuff are coming just look at SSOD its not about resolution more than pixel quality and framerate and there's no denying that x1 has more games at 60fps and games do run better.

So much bullsh** in one post..

Lets see MGS5 is 1080p 60 FPS with extra effects on PS4,720p 60 FPS without dynamic sky..lol

That is a huge ass gap of more than 100%.

Multiplatform games run better on PS4 deal with it..

@tormentos: lol I'm not going to discuss a game with you that you don't have it was a ported let's count this gen only games not ported from 360 and ps3 which system running their games in a higher and steady framerate? Most for my games on my ps4 almost feel like they are made for a 50hz tv juddering on most of them don't have that effects on my x1.

You're in denial you love the PS4. LOL

Guess I missed this proof. Please link? Its written all over the internet just doesn't make it a proven fact for me. I never said it isn't more powerful, I'm just not convinced its 50% more.

We wont be standing around a tree and get hit by lightning from the cloud. So no it wont kill us.

One thing is different this gen from last, xbox will never be ahead of PS in sales.

Its hilarious, to me. I'm using screen shots and quotes in psych class.

Xbox One has no award winning games either so basically it comes down to multiplats which run better on PS4 at a cheaper price.

You are truly delusional.

feel sorry for those hardcore gamers that are loyal to the Xbox, i wonder how they feel everytime a game is released 1080p on PS4 and 720p-800p on X1. LOL

prove it

They probs won't actually care it's not even a big deal and the Xbox has much more to offer graphically we haven't seen everything yet. Wait for gears tbh

They go back to playing Kinect Sports and watching TV shows.

So they go back to having fun?

Is that supposed to be a bad thing?

Kinect is fun?

I imagine so for many people

I've had fun with it before

Originally Posted by Christophe Riccio

I don't think it would allow new rendering techniques but it could allow thing we could do in cross fire / SLI like rendering simultaneously two frames at a time. Also it could allows to rendering independent rendering passes simultaneously which could provide a better utilization of the hardware as typically each rendering pass has different GPU hardware bottlenecks. For example if we could do the rendering of the shadows and the some shading simultaneously.

I am not completely sure about the consequence for the fixed function hardware. There are already different task live in a GPU. Most probably the multi command processor would have to share the pool of graphics context. (8 in Southern Islands if I remember correctly). I am more concerned here by the CPU side usage: We could create 2 OpenGL contexts and actually submit different commands simultaneously on different threads.

Overall, just duplicating the command processor seems an expensive idea to me in term of transistors count and an idea that doesn't really scale across GPU architectures / low-end vs high-end GPUs. I would rather want the IHV focus on things that will have a real impact for the rendering like programmable blending and multi draw indirect. I also think graphics programmers should thing twice when they want to submit multi command buffer simultaneously because it doesn't make any sense from a hardware design point of view unless if we add multi command processors in the future.

The x1 is made for the future its way ahead of the game everything NVIDIA , AMD, and Open gl5 is happening on the X1 via DX 12 the hardware is different its so many things inside the system that old engines just can't take full advantage.

I really don't care what this guy says. I buy consoles for their games and not their specs. And boyd is right. Games do look better at the end of a gen compared to games at the beginning of a gen.

Microsoft was out engineered plain and simple. MS is not in denial that they manufactured a poorly engineered underpowered cable box, they are in denial that Sony did the exact opposite. Sony produced a smaller more powerful system that has the future in mind. The ps4 has no brick, no batteries for the controller, a controller that will integrate with Morpheus, can stand on its side, has better ram, a better processor, a controller that is vastly improved and a operating system that worked better than the one's crappy os hence the constant updates.

And for little bitches like blackace and kuu2 the ps4 already has more games than the one. Prove me wrong or shut up.

Yep the Xbox One is a super computer most definitely, now can someone pick me up from the floor where I've been laying for the past few minutes rolling around in laughter.

I won't deny the Xbox One and PS4 can produce amazing graphics, I own them. But let's not start talking fuckin bullshit here alright..

Oh hell.....what do you expect him to say? PR and marketing are crucial. You have to mention upside.....

They're stuck with it for 5+ years so he has do his job and come out with this spiel. Him and the current guys must curse that twat Mattrick and interfering divisions who made the console what it is.

Xbone will not have a chance @e3

to Microsoft's defence, you think they would just go and admit defeat? yeah, that would be good business...

LMAO news article about a six month old interview about DA CLAWD and lemmings flip their nut.

The Xbone has no games.

@shawn30 said:

How cute, putting all your faith into a man under whom MS' first party games quality declined.

Enjoy your Kinect guff.

Ryse won the award for Stodgiest Turd Squeezed Out By A European Games Developer.

That appears to be the catchphrase recently. Xbox One: Just Wait.

Bulls***.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/36011/Microsofts_Xbox_360_Division_Sees_132_Billion_Profit_For_Fiscal_Year_2011.php

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/microsoft-xbox-live-growth-led-entertainment-division-to-profit-in-q4/0118805

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/04/18/microsoft-video-game-division-turns-a-profit-in-q3/

Losing around 2 billion a year? More BS, 2 billion a year since they started would put the Xbox division 24 billion in the red and we all know it ain't that far into the Red.

you just make all this crap up in your head really don't you.

Why else do you think they stuffed all the hardware together?

More BS, The Dev that made the claim said it was 50% faster to develop for. not 50% more powerful

'Our contacts have told us that memory reads on PS4 are 40-50 per cent quicker than Xbox One, and its ALU (Arithmetic Logic Unit) is around 50 per cent faster. One basic example we were given suggested that without optimisation for either console, a platform-agnostic development build can run at around 30FPS in 1920×1080 on PS4, but it’ll run at “20-something” FPS in 1600×900 on Xbox One. “Xbox One is weaker and it’s a pain to use its ESRAM,” concluded one developer.'

http://kotaku.com/report-ps4-is-50-faster-than-xbox-one-1308239556

50% faster=/=50% more powerful.

It is ,My kids love it and i really enjoy playing Kinect games with them, just because you don't find it FUN doesn't mean it isn't.

That would be futile. He would be laid off in a week. With his only pay check bouncing?

Too easy.

When Sony gets a game that rivals Ryse in Graphics, or creates a exclusive racer at 1080p/60fps. Then we can talk.

I know. Those cardboard cut out crowds!

@GrenadeLauncher said:

@delta3074 said:

Bulls***.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/36011/Microsofts_Xbox_360_Division_Sees_132_Billion_Profit_For_Fiscal_Year_2011.php

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/microsoft-xbox-live-growth-led-entertainment-division-to-profit-in-q4/0118805

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/04/18/microsoft-video-game-division-turns-a-profit-in-q3/

Losing around 2 billion a year? More BS, 2 billion a year since they started would put the Xbox division 24 billion in the red and we all know it ain't that far into the Red.

you just make all this crap up in your head really don't you.

Why else do you think they stuffed all the hardware together?

Your own Graph shows that the division posted profits for 5 years in a row, you don't understand what the word Profit actually means do you?

'A financial benefit that is realized when the amount of revenue gained from a business activity exceeds the expenses, costs and taxes needed to sustain the activity. Any profit that is gained goes to the business's owners, who may or may not decide to spend it on the business.'

You don't count overall losses when determining profits, A company may be 3 billion in debt overall but if there incoming revenue is above what it costs to keep a company going then they are considered to be making Profit.

Example: company A is 3 billion in debt, it's overall costs for the year are 2 billion, the compnay makes 3 billion in that year which means there incoming revenue is 1 billion more than there costs are that year so they are Making Profit.

Simply put, if a company makes more Money than it pays out in operating costs then they are in Profit.

Overall debt doesn't even come into the equation.

MGS as an example?

This hack developing team couldn't even get the Xbox version MGS to be superior to the PS2 version of MGS.

Please do tell me how the Ps2 > Xbox in power? I'll be waiting for this explanation.

Not saying the X1 is superior to the PS4 in power. Just saying either these guys are bias or just complete coding hacks.

They put zero effort in the Xbox One version of this 30 dollar demo. It's a straight Xbox 360 port.

@GrenadeLauncher said:

@delta3074 said:

Bulls***.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/36011/Microsofts_Xbox_360_Division_Sees_132_Billion_Profit_For_Fiscal_Year_2011.php

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/microsoft-xbox-live-growth-led-entertainment-division-to-profit-in-q4/0118805

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/04/18/microsoft-video-game-division-turns-a-profit-in-q3/

Losing around 2 billion a year? More BS, 2 billion a year since they started would put the Xbox division 24 billion in the red and we all know it ain't that far into the Red.

you just make all this crap up in your head really don't you.

Why else do you think they stuffed all the hardware together?

Losing 2 billion a year? 4/6 years of losses are less than 1.3 billion. Exaggerate much?