MAC Gaming????

Is there really that much of a lack of support for MAC gaming? I know that STEAM is available. Thinking of grading my computer and want a MAC.

Tell if these Specs are good.

27 inch monitor

I5 Processor 3.60 GHZ

1 Terabyte HDD

8 GB RAM

5760 ATI graphics card 512mb.

Install Windows 7.

YOU WIN.

Is there really that much of a lack of support for MAC gaming? I know that STEAM is available. Thinking of grading my computer and want a MAC.

Tell if these Specs are good.

27 inch monitor

I5 Processor 3.60 GHZ

1 Terabyte HDD

8 GB RAM

5760 ATI graphics card 512mb.

HailCaesarHail

Is there really that much of a lack of support for MAC gaming? I know that STEAM is available. Thinking of grading my computer and want a MAC.

Tell if these Specs are good.

27 inch monitor

I5 Processor 3.60 GHZ

1 Terabyte HDD

8 GB RAM

5760 ATI graphics card 512mb.

Is there really that much of a lack of support for MAC gaming? I know that STEAM is available. Thinking of grading my computer and want a MAC.

Tell if these Specs are good.

27 inch monitor

I5 Processor 3.60 GHZ

1 Terabyte HDD

8 GB RAM

5760 ATI graphics card 512mb.

That's going to be too slow for games. Get a Mac Pro w/ 5870 1GB video card and install Windows 7. A 5770 will be okay if you plan on playing on lower resolutions, but definately not 2560x1440.

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Is there really that much of a lack of support for MAC gaming? I know that STEAM is available. Thinking of grading my computer and want a MAC.

Tell if these Specs are good.

27 inch monitor

I5 Processor 3.60 GHZ

1 Terabyte HDD

8 GB RAM

5760 ATI graphics card 512mb.

HailCaesarHail

sorry but if money is not a concern then you could be buying a better pc for less money. the dell U2711 is the same panel as the ACD 27" and is considerably cheaper to boot

Blizzard supports MAC too, also now that the MAC app store launched there's been games from 2K like Borderlands and Bioshock.

I don't have a Mac but I'll throw out a list of some multi-OS indie games and Steam releases that I play on Windows.

Team Fortress 2

Eve Online

Killing Floor

Left 4 Dead 2

World of Goo

Torchlight

Penumbra

Amnesia: The Dark Descent

Eschalon Book's 1 and 2

Counter Strike Source

Sam and Max

Heroes of Newerth

Battle for Wesnoth (free)

Din's Curse

Diablo II

World of Warcraft (not a fan but a few million are)

I don't have a Mac but I'll throw out a list of some multi-OS indie games and Steam releases that I play on Windows.

Team Fortress 2

Eve Online

Killing Floor

Left 4 Dead 2

World of Goo

Torchlight

Penumbra

Amnesia: The Dark Descent

Eschalon Book's 1 and 2

Counter Strike Source

Sam and Max

Heroes of Newerth

Battle for Wesnoth (free)

Din's Curse

Diablo II

World of Warcraft (not a fan but a few million are)

Whiteblade999

Install windows 7. But that GPU won't be able to drive 2560x1440 in most games, so you'll need to run in a window.

[QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]

I don't have a Mac but I'll throw out a list of some multi-OS indie games and Steam releases that I play on Windows.

Team Fortress 2

Eve Online

Killing Floor

Left 4 Dead 2

World of Goo

Torchlight

Penumbra

Amnesia: The Dark Descent

Eschalon Book's 1 and 2

Counter Strike Source

Sam and Max

Heroes of Newerth

Battle for Wesnoth (free)

Din's Curse

Diablo II

World of Warcraft (not a fan but a few million are)

KC_Hokie

Macs are PCs. You can Install Windows on them. You can get an emulator for the old games too, Windows even needs this.

Money not really a concernHailCaesarHail

[QUOTE="HailCaesarHail"] Money not really a concernNVIDIATI

Macs are good.

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

Money not really a concernHailCaesarHail

Macs are good.

Macs are PCs. You can Install Windows on them. You can get an emulator for the old games too, Windows even needs this.AntiType

The two remaining PC juggernauts support Mac now (Blizzard and Valve), but allot of the smaller studios do not.

But with steam now on Macs the number of big games will likely increase now.

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[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] Then get something good...

NVIDIATI

Macs are good.

Yeah never get it just for gaming, but for anything else, Macs are better. They are a bit more expensive, but the build quality (esp the laptops) are much better then what you are likely comparing them to.

[QUOTE="AntiType"]Macs are PCs. You can Install Windows on them. You can get an emulator for the old games too, Windows even needs this.KC_Hokie

... How is that a response to "buy windows for it"?

How is that a response to "buy windows for it"?AntiType

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"][QUOTE="AntiType"]

Macs are good.

AntiType

Yeah never get it just for gaming, but for anything else, Macs are better. They are a bit more expensive, but the build quality (esp the laptops) are much better then what you are likely comparing them to.

wow. i will agree with the laptops but mac pro/imac build quality is supbar compared to a good pc. why bother paying a premium (and I mean premium, RAM costs 5x more at least) when the PC can do everything a mac can, only better?

if money isnt a concern make a hakintosh then get some strippers

[QUOTE="AntiType"] How is that a response to "buy windows for it"?KC_Hokie

A Mac with windows can play any game it has the minimum requirements for... so a new mac can play all new pc games...

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"][QUOTE="AntiType"]

Macs are good.

AntiType

Yeah never get it just for gaming, but for anything else, Macs are better. They are a bit more expensive, but the build quality (esp the laptops) are much better then what you are likely comparing them to.

1. "better" is subjective, explain
2. "a bit more expensive" on average twice the price as a windows PC or laptop with equal or greater power
3. Asus, Toshiba, and Sony all have lower failure rates/hardware issues than Apple.

[QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]

I don't have a Mac but I'll throw out a list of some multi-OS indie games and Steam releases that I play on Windows.

Team Fortress 2

Eve Online

Killing Floor

Left 4 Dead 2

World of Goo

Torchlight

Penumbra

Amnesia: The Dark Descent

Eschalon Book's 1 and 2

Counter Strike Source

Sam and Max

Heroes of Newerth

Battle for Wesnoth (free)

Din's Curse

Diablo II

World of Warcraft (not a fan but a few million are)

KC_Hokie

Less. I named good games from memory that were on both operating systems. 'PC' includes Windows, Mac and Linux by the way.

The two remaining PC juggernauts support Mac now (Blizzard and Valve), but allot of the smaller studios do not.

But with steam now on Macs the number of big games will likely increase now.

dercoo

Wrong, a lot of indie developers support Mac and Linux because of how much the mainstream industry neglects them. Look at Spiderweb software who develops and releases games on a Mac first and ports them over the Windows first. The guy has been in business for well over 15 years by tapping into a market and the indie market followed suite (he is basically the father of what we now call indie btw).

Blizzard and Valve are just intelligent and see the market where EA or Activision (not the Blizzard half obviously) don't.

[QUOTE="AntiType"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] Not for their price, and not for gaming.Firebird-5

Yeah never get it just for gaming, but for anything else, Macs are better. They are a bit more expensive, but the build quality (esp the laptops) are much better then what you are likely comparing them to.

wow. i will agree with the laptops but mac pro/imac build quality is supbar compared to a good pc. why bother paying a premium (and I mean premium, RAM costs 5x more at least) when the PC can do everything a mac can, only better?

Mac pros have a good build quality.

And you are wrong about PC's can do everything better than a mac. Audio Editing, software synthesizers work better on a mac, video edititing, mac servers are better then windows ones (though Linux is better than both). Working with OSX on anything is so much quicker than windows 7 and earlier.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="AntiType"] How is that a response to "buy windows for it"?AntiType

A Mac with windows can play any game it has the minimum requirements for... so a new mac can play all new pc games...

good luck upgrading it

[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

[QUOTE="AntiType"]

Yeah never get it just for gaming, but for anything else, Macs are better. They are a bit more expensive, but the build quality (esp the laptops) are much better then what you are likely comparing them to.

AntiType

wow. i will agree with the laptops but mac pro/imac build quality is supbar compared to a good pc. why bother paying a premium (and I mean premium, RAM costs 5x more at least) when the PC can do everything a mac can, only better?

Mac pros have a good build quality.

And you are wrong about PC's can do everything better than a mac. Audio Editing, software synthesizers work better on a mac, video edititing, mac servers are better then windows ones (though Linux is better than both). Working with OSX on anything is so much quicker than windows 7 and earlier.

wrong... wrong... wrong... wrong... wrong... wrong

A Mac with windows can play any game it has the minimum requirements for... so a new mac can play all new pc games...AntiType

[QUOTE="AntiType"]

[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

wow. i will agree with the laptops but mac pro/imac build quality is supbar compared to a good pc. why bother paying a premium (and I mean premium, RAM costs 5x more at least) when the PC can do everything a mac can, only better?

Firebird-5

Mac pros have a good build quality.

And you are wrong about PC's can do everything better than a mac. Audio Editing, software synthesizers work better on a mac, video edititing, mac servers are better then windows ones (though Linux is better than both). Working with OSX on anything is so much quicker than windows 7 and earlier.

wrong... wrong... wrong... wrong... wrong... wrong

Sorry, you need more than that. Take us through it or step aside.

[QUOTE="AntiType"]A Mac with windows can play any game it has the minimum requirements for... so a new mac can play all new pc games...KC_Hokie

It doesnt. a mac IS a PC, windows is non the wiser. You need different drivers just to make the track pad to work, but thats about it.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="AntiType"]A Mac with windows can play any game it has the minimum requirements for... so a new mac can play all new pc games...AntiType

It doesnt. a mac IS a PC, windows is non the wiser. You need different drivers just to make the track pad to work, but thats about it.

Two Words... Boot CampJasonDarksavior

[QUOTE="AntiType"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]I'm pretty sure booting up a MAC in windows effects performance of the hardware. JasonDarksavior

It doesnt. a mac IS a PC, windows is non the wiser. You need different drivers just to make the track pad to work, but thats about it.

I see, I have an older Mac, so it didnt have that.

[QUOTE="JasonDarksavior"]Two Words... Boot CampNVIDIATI

errr... read the topic? its "Is there really that much of a lack of support for MAC gaming?"

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="AntiType"] How is that a response to "buy windows for it"?AntiType

A Mac with windows can play any game it has the minimum requirements for... so a new mac can play all new pc games...

Is there really that much of a lack of support for MAC gaming? I know that STEAM is available. Thinking of grading my computer and want a MAC.

Tell if these Specs are good.

27 inch monitor

I5 Processor 3.60 GHZ

1 Terabyte HDD

8 GB RAM

5760 ATI graphics card 512mb.

HailCaesarHail

[QUOTE="JasonDarksavior"][QUOTE="AntiType"]

I see, I have an older Mac, so it didnt have that.

AntiType

[QUOTE="JasonDarksavior"]Two Words... Boot CampNVIDIATI

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="JasonDarksavior"]Two Words... Boot CampAntiType

errr... read the topic? its "Is there really that much of a lack of support for MAC gaming?"

[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

[QUOTE="AntiType"]

Mac pros have a good build quality.

And you are wrong about PC's can do everything better than a mac. Audio Editing, software synthesizers work better on a mac, video edititing, mac servers are better then windows ones (though Linux is better than both). Working with OSX on anything is so much quicker than windows 7 and earlier.

AntiType

wrong... wrong... wrong... wrong... wrong... wrong

Sorry, you need more than that. Take us through it or step aside.

and what you get away with just saying it is so?

logic pro - cubase, reason

final cut - vegas

servers - pay $600 for the MAC OSX Server when you could just get bsd/linux. windows is better because it can run exchange... good for businesses

quicker - nope. why not add a SSD to your mac... oh... wait...

I went onto the Apple USA website and priced that computer, it came to $2,099...

So he would get:

Intel i5 (dual core @ 3.6ghz model unspecified) CPU

ATI HD5670 512MB GDDR3 GPU

8GB DDR3 1333mhz RAM

1TB HDD 7,200RPM

... This is not a $2.1k gaming computer in the least bit.

I went onto the Apple USA website and priced that computer, it came to $2,099...

So he would get:

Intel i5 (dual core @ 3.6ghz model unspecified) CPU

ATI HD5670 512MB GDDR3 GPU

8GB DDR3 1333mhz RAM

1TB HDD 7,200RPM

... This is not a $2.1k gaming computer in the least bit.

NVIDIATI

[QUOTE="AntiType"]

[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

wrong... wrong... wrong... wrong... wrong... wrong

Firebird-5

Sorry, you need more than that. Take us through it or step aside.

and what you get away with just saying it is so?

logic pro - cubase, reason

final cut - vegas

servers - pay $600 for the MAC OSX Server when you could just get bsd/linux. windows is better because it can run exchange... good for businesses

quicker - nope. why not add a SSD to your mac... oh... wait...

err... Cubase and Reason are can be installed on Mac. Logic is exclusive.

Is Vegas better than final cut?

I already stated that linux is better than both. You don't need Exchange if you arnt using windows. A mac server has the equivilant.

And ah... yeah, why not add a SSD? or buy a mac that already has one?

[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

[QUOTE="AntiType"]

Sorry, you need more than that. Take us through it or step aside.

AntiType

and what you get away with just saying it is so?

logic pro - cubase, reason

final cut - vegas

servers - pay $600 for the MAC OSX Server when you could just get bsd/linux. windows is better because it can run exchange... good for businesses

quicker - nope. why not add a SSD to your mac... oh... wait...

err... Cubase and Reason are can be installed on Mac. Logic is exclusive.

Is Vegas better than final cut?

I already stated that linux is better than both. You don't need Exchange if you arnt using windows. A mac server has the equivilant.

And ah... yeah, why not add a SSD? or buy a mac that already has one?

the point was there is no reason to spend double just to get an exclusive program. these aren't games.

vegas is more or less the same as final cut. they both have their pros and cons. once again, no reason to spend double on a mac

i said windows was better simply because linux/bsd have webservers covered, and windows can run exchange. i have not encountered a business that ran whatever the mac equivalent is. how come i can sign into my exchange account on my iphone...? where is the mac equivalent?

if you buy a mac that has an ssd they will overcharge you. macosx is not inherently faster than windows 7. marketing ****

[QUOTE="AntiType"]

[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

and what you get away with just saying it is so?

logic pro - cubase, reason

final cut - vegas

servers - pay $600 for the MAC OSX Server when you could just get bsd/linux. windows is better because it can run exchange... good for businesses

quicker - nope. why not add a SSD to your mac... oh... wait...

Firebird-5

err... Cubase and Reason are can be installed on Mac. Logic is exclusive.

Is Vegas better than final cut?

I already stated that linux is better than both. You don't need Exchange if you arnt using windows. A mac server has the equivilant.

And ah... yeah, why not add a SSD? or buy a mac that already has one?

the point was there is no reason to spend double just to get an exclusive program. these aren't games.

vegas is more or less the same as final cut. they both have their pros and cons. once again, no reason to spend double on a mac

i said windows was better simply because linux/bsd have webservers covered, and windows can run exchange. i have not encountered a business that ran whatever the mac equivalent is. how come i can sign into my exchange account on my iphone...? where is the mac equivalent?

if you buy a mac that has an ssd they will overcharge you. macosx is not inherently faster than windows 7. marketing ****

Wait... you said there was a problem with SSD on macs..., that is isn't quicker? You just fell back to the overpriced arguement? listen WE KNOW. we are talking about PERFORMANCE in things other than games here. Price isnt an issue if you are buying a mac.

Its not just exclusive software. Midi latancy is MUCH better on a mac, out of the box. Stock windows drivers are not useable. Custom ones are still lagging behind.

[QUOTE="AntiType"]

[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

and what you get away with just saying it is so?

logic pro - cubase, reason

final cut - vegas

servers - pay $600 for the MAC OSX Server when you could just get bsd/linux. windows is better because it can run exchange... good for businesses

quicker - nope. why not add a SSD to your mac... oh... wait...

Firebird-5

err... Cubase and Reason are can be installed on Mac. Logic is exclusive.

Is Vegas better than final cut?

I already stated that linux is better than both. You don't need Exchange if you arnt using windows. A mac server has the equivilant.

And ah... yeah, why not add a SSD? or buy a mac that already has one?

the point was there is no reason to spend double just to get an exclusive program. these aren't games.

vegas is more or less the same as final cut. they both have their pros and cons. once again, no reason to spend double on a mac

i said windows was better simply because linux/bsd have webservers covered, and windows can run exchange. i have not encountered a business that ran whatever the mac equivalent is. how come i can sign into my exchange account on my iphone...? where is the mac equivalent?

if you buy a mac that has an ssd they will overcharge you. macosx is not inherently faster than windows 7. marketing ****