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#1 MortgageMan007
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Yes it truly does better story better everything. I mean they got it all right the fighting system blows GTA away. The cover system for shooting blows GTA away.

The graphics:shock:Blows GTA away.

Story will blow all GTA games away.

Not to mention for those of us who played Mafia 1 on PC back in 2002 that game was amazing. Mafia 2 looks just SICK noway this game should get less thena 10. If GTAIV got a 10 well Mafia 2 is better in every regard so it needs a 10 PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#2 tagyhag
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We just played the demo, let's wait until the full game comes out.
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#3 Riverwolf007
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which gta are you talking about because if it's gta3 you are wrong. i doubt M2 is going to come along and change the very nature of how games are made.

if it's gta4 then so what? saints row 2 was more fun than that one.

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Look, I know it has better graphics and thats all that matters to you kids, but IMO GTA IV had an oscar worthy plot, excellent voice acting and a cast of interesting characaters that is rarely seen in videogames, let alone open world ones in this day and age. This is what really matters to me and for that, I simply adore GTA IV.

kthnx

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#5 deleterguy
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It will never beat vice city, atleast for me.
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#6 New_Messege
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which gta are you talking about because if it's gta3 you are wrong. i doubt M2 is going to come along and change the very nature of how games are made.

if it's gta4 then so what? saints row 2 was more fun than that one.

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Saints Row 2 was garbage...

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Yes it truly does better story better everything. I mean they got it all right the fighting system blows GTA away. The cover system for shooting blows GTA away.

The graphics:shock:Blows GTA away.

Story will blow all GTA games away.

Not to mention for those of us who played Mafia 1 on PC back in 2002 that game was amazing. Mafia 2 looks just SICK noway this game should get less thena 10. If GTAIV got a 10 well Mafia 2 is better in every regard so it needs a 10 PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Which system did you play it on?

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#8 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

which gta are you talking about because if it's gta3 you are wrong. i doubt M2 is going to come along and change the very nature of how games are made.

if it's gta4 then so what? saints row 2 was more fun than that one.

New_Messege

Saints Row 2 was garbage...

fun garbage...

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#9 deactivated-5c8e4e07d5510
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I will say that it definitely plays a lot better than GTA IV. Don't know if the game itself will be better though, all we've played is the demo.
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#10 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

which gta are you talking about because if it's gta3 you are wrong. i doubt M2 is going to come along and change the very nature of how games are made.

if it's gta4 then so what? saints row 2 was more fun than that one.

New_Messege

Saints Row 2 was garbage...

Saints Row 2's plot and characters are much worse than GTA4's (Though GTA4's plot isn't exactly amazing)

But the fun/chaotic factor trumps GTA4, especially in coop.

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#11 SaaM-x
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Let's wait and see. I think Mafia 2 will be an awesome game but it will have to do something special to overtake Grand Theft Auto.

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#12 MortgageMan007
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[QUOTE="MortgageMan007"]

Yes it truly does better story better everything. I mean they got it all right the fighting system blows GTA away. The cover system for shooting blows GTA away.

The graphics:shock:Blows GTA away.

Story will blow all GTA games away.

Not to mention for those of us who played Mafia 1 on PC back in 2002 that game was amazing. Mafia 2 looks just SICK noway this game should get less thena 10. If GTAIV got a 10 well Mafia 2 is better in every regard so it needs a 10 PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

superiorNilly

Which system did you play it on?

360 and yes i know PC version will be best. I also know that the lack of AA in the console version is a tad downer. But it still looks real good on 360

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#13 New_Messege
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[QUOTE="New_Messege"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

which gta are you talking about because if it's gta3 you are wrong. i doubt M2 is going to come along and change the very nature of how games are made.

if it's gta4 then so what? saints row 2 was more fun than that one.

tagyhag

Saints Row 2 was garbage...

Saints Row 2's plot and characters are much worse than GTA4's (Though GTA4's plot isn't exactly amazing)

But the fun/chaotic factor trumps GTA4, especially in coop.

Its competitive online multiplayer was garbage where as GTA4's MP is still fun today.

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#14 MortgageMan007
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Look, I know it has better graphics and thats all that matters to you kids, but IMO GTA IV had an oscar worthy plot, excellent voice acting and a cast of interesting characaters that is rarely seen in videogames, let alone open world ones in this day and age. This is what really matters to me and for that, I simply adore GTA IV.

kthnx

New_Messege

GTA had a great cast but lets face it it has terrible gunplay bad attemp at a cover systems and bad fighting gameplay. In comparison to Mafia 2 in those regards Mafia 2 got it all right for gameplay.

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#15 deactivated-5c8e4e07d5510
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[QUOTE="New_Messege"]

Look, I know it has better graphics and thats all that matters to you kids, but IMO GTA IV had an oscar worthy plot, excellent voice acting and a cast of interesting characaters that is rarely seen in videogames, let alone open world ones in this day and age. This is what really matters to me and for that, I simply adore GTA IV.

kthnx

MortgageMan007

GTA had a great cast but lets face it it has terrible gunplay bad attemp at a cover systems and bad fighting gameplay. In comparison to Mafia 2 in those regards Mafia 2 got it all right for gameplay.

I agree. That game's controls and gunplay were terrible.
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#16 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="New_Messege"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

which gta are you talking about because if it's gta3 you are wrong. i doubt M2 is going to come along and change the very nature of how games are made.

if it's gta4 then so what? saints row 2 was more fun than that one.

tagyhag

Saints Row 2 was garbage...

Saints Row 2's plot and characters are much worse than GTA4's (Though GTA4's plot isn't exactly amazing)

But the fun/chaotic factor trumps GTA4, especially in coop.

my thinking exactly, i would also add in the actual gameplay mechanics. getting a headshot while driving was way more satisfying than gtas spray and pray.

i love gta and all and there are plenty of ways that it is better than SR2 but in pure fun factor sr comes out the winner.

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#17 mo0ksi
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Demos > Full games For real.
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#18 thespywholied
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Vice City will always be king. =)

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#19 KlepticGrooves
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I think it's best to wait and play the game before basing an opinion upon a demo.

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#20 superiorNilly
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[QUOTE="superiorNilly"]

[QUOTE="MortgageMan007"]

Yes it truly does better story better everything. I mean they got it all right the fighting system blows GTA away. The cover system for shooting blows GTA away.

The graphics:shock:Blows GTA away.

Story will blow all GTA games away.

Not to mention for those of us who played Mafia 1 on PC back in 2002 that game was amazing. Mafia 2 looks just SICK noway this game should get less thena 10. If GTAIV got a 10 well Mafia 2 is better in every regard so it needs a 10 PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MortgageMan007

Which system did you play it on?

360 and yes i know PC version will be best. I also know that the lack of AA in the console version is a tad downer. But it still looks real good on 360

I was wondering since i've heard bad things about the PS3 version, which is the one I wanted to get. I guess ill get the XBOX 360 version then.

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#21 MortgageMan007
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[QUOTE="MortgageMan007"]

[QUOTE="superiorNilly"]

Which system did you play it on?

superiorNilly

360 and yes i know PC version will be best. I also know that the lack of AA in the console version is a tad downer. But it still looks real good on 360

I was wondering since i've heard bad things about the PS3 version, which is the one I wanted to get. I guess ill get the XBOX 360 version then.

What did you here bad about PS3 version? I assume another bad port with worse graphics compared to the 360 version?

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I felt it controlled 100x better than GTA4. None of this walking around like a nub getting shot ... my character actually ran around aware he was being shot at.

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Mafia 2 has some of the worst, floatiest driving I've seen in an open world game in a while. I like it, and may just buy it, but I hated the driving. Also, the cop AI seemed a bit jacked up imo.
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#24 tagyhag
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Mafia 2 has some of the worst, floatiest driving I've seen in an open world game in a while. I like it, and may just buy it, but I hated the driving. Also, the cop AI seemed a bit jacked up imo.donalbane
Did you have the driving set to "Simulation"?
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#25 W1NGMAN-
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Mafia 2 has some of the worst, floatiest driving I've seen in an open world game in a while. I like it, and may just buy it, but I hated the driving. Also, the cop AI seemed a bit jacked up imo.donalbane
The cops totally reminded me of the first Driver on the PS1 .. ha I actually liked it.
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#26 MortgageMan007
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Mafia 2 has some of the worst, floatiest driving I've seen in an open world game in a while. I like it, and may just buy it, but I hated the driving. Also, the cop AI seemed a bit jacked up imo.donalbane

What noway the driving is so much better then GTA

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Yes it truly does better story better everything. I mean they got it all right the fighting system blows GTA away. The cover system for shooting blows GTA away.

The graphics:shock:Blows GTA away.

Story will blow all GTA games away.

Not to mention for those of us who played Mafia 1 on PC back in 2002 that game was amazing. Mafia 2 looks just SICK noway this game should get less thena 10. If GTAIV got a 10 well Mafia 2 is better in every regard so it needs a 10 PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MortgageMan007

Wait until the game releases before making these claims.

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.  I dont like the way Xfire compresses images.

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I thought the demo was bad. But maybe it will be better than GTA4.

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#30 superiorNilly
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[QUOTE="superiorNilly"]

[QUOTE="MortgageMan007"]

360 and yes i know PC version will be best. I also know that the lack of AA in the console version is a tad downer. But it still looks real good on 360

MortgageMan007

I was wondering since i've heard bad things about the PS3 version, which is the one I wanted to get. I guess ill get the XBOX 360 version then.

What did you here bad about PS3 version? I assume another bad port with worse graphics compared to the 360 version?

Yeah, basically that and pritty bad screen tearing.

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Graphics? Screw the graphics, the gameplay was 10 times better. Finally interesting missions and characters and not that borring life simulator gta iv was.
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In what system and settings you run gta iv? It looks much better than mine.
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#33 aroxx_ab
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Yeah this looks so much more fun than GTA IV

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#34 Drakebunny
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If only GTA IV had a demo. Then, this would be a fair comparison.

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#35 skrat_01
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To quote myself from another thread: GTA IV actually tried to be much more like Mafia than previous GTA titles. A compelling 'real' plot, much more realistic scenarios and game systems (and mechanics), and a singleplayer that was more about driving a tightly scripted story within an open world. The result is that it failed completely in that regard; it became repetitive, rinse and repeat and the plot fell by the waist side. Mafia 2 however looks to continue the tradition of the first, and from what I played in the demo it certainly is better. Only thing really missing at the moment is being able to fire a weapon while driving; however the detail of the game is absolutely stunning.
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Look, I know it has better graphics and thats all that matters to you kids, but IMO GTA IV had an oscar worthy plot, excellent voice acting and a cast of interesting characaters that is rarely seen in videogames, let alone open world ones in this day and age. This is what really matters to me and for that, I simply adore GTA IV.

kthnx

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yet it had terrible sandbox design, zero player impact and a plot that dragged into go kill X, rinse and repeat padding.
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#37 mo0ksi
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[QUOTE="New_Messege"]

Look, I know it has better graphics and thats all that matters to you kids, but IMO GTA IV had an oscar worthy plot, excellent voice acting and a cast of interesting characaters that is rarely seen in videogames, let alone open world ones in this day and age. This is what really matters to me and for that, I simply adore GTA IV.

kthnx

skrat_01
yet it had terrible sandbox design, zero player impact and a plot that dragged into go kill X, rinse and repeat padding.

Most sandbox games have little real player impact if any, so you really can't just fault GTA4 for that. Also, while there were a fair amount of filler missions, there were some very well designed missions. Some of which didn't even involve much action.
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To quote myself from another thread: GTA IV actually tried to be much more like Mafia than previous GTA titles. A compelling 'real' plot, much more realistic scenarios and game systems (and mechanics), and a singleplayer that was more about driving a tightly scripted story within an open world. The result is that it failed completely in that regard; it became repetitive, rinse and repeat and the plot fell by the waist side. Mafia 2 however looks to continue the tradition of the first, and from what I played in the demo it certainly is better. Only thing really missing at the moment is being able to fire a weapon while driving; however the detail of the game is absolutely stunning.skrat_01
It should be noted Red Dead did a better job then GTA 4.

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Mafia 2 was fun, I'm not sure if I'm convinced it's going to be better than GTA though.

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#40 The_Gaming_Baby
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Looks like someone has jumped on the hype train. And Mafia 2 is nothing like Mafia.

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GTA is better.
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#42 h575309
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Well I can tell you the cover mechanics, graphics and controls are all better.

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#43 thespywholied
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Well I can tell you the cover mechanics, graphics and controls are all better.

h575309

This is true but GTA beats it in Freedom and length. Both have cons and pros. Both are awesome. :)

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#44 h575309
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[QUOTE="thespywholied"]

[QUOTE="h575309"]

Well I can tell you the cover mechanics, graphics and controls are all better.

This is true but GTA beats it in Freedom and length. Both have cons and pros. Both are awesome. :)

I really dont care about length if its clunky and not fun to play. Not to mention tapping A to run! What idiot thought that was fun!? :x
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#45 bigM10231
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i dont believe so. i played the demo and i prefer gta to it. saints row series is superior to gta

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#46 The_Game21x
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Meh. The demo was decent enough but it didn't make me think "OMG I have to have this game now!". It's probably the kind of game I'll buy once it's been discounted.

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#47 thespywholied
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[QUOTE="thespywholied"]

[QUOTE="h575309"]

Well I can tell you the cover mechanics, graphics and controls are all better.

h575309

This is true but GTA beats it in Freedom and length. Both have cons and pros. Both are awesome. :)

I really dont care about length if its clunky and not fun to play. Not to mention tapping A to run! What idiot thought that was fun!? :x

Argeed on press to run but it did look cool to walk in a busy street. 8)

GTA Vice City was the best game in the gta saga i hope next game they mix gta 4 with VC.

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Not a difficult feat imo. As far as I'm concerned GTA lost it's throne after San Andreas.
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]To quote myself from another thread: GTA IV actually tried to be much more like Mafia than previous GTA titles. A compelling 'real' plot, much more realistic scenarios and game systems (and mechanics), and a singleplayer that was more about driving a tightly scripted story within an open world. The result is that it failed completely in that regard; it became repetitive, rinse and repeat and the plot fell by the waist side. Mafia 2 however looks to continue the tradition of the first, and from what I played in the demo it certainly is better. Only thing really missing at the moment is being able to fire a weapon while driving; however the detail of the game is absolutely stunning.thespywholied

It should be noted Red Dead did a better job then GTA 4.

From what I have read I am inclined to agree, though I hear the mission design is still the usual restrictiveness - and the open world is a step forwards from an elaborate hub that it has been in GTA.
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#50 thrillh0
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Mafia 2 looks just SICK noway this game should get less thena 10. If GTAIV got a 10 well Mafia 2 is better in every regard so it needs a 10 PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MortgageMan007

Well yeah, for the PC and 360 versions anyways. But they'll knock off .5 from the PS3 version for missing grass and bad jacket detail.