**March NPD Leak (4K chickens edition)**

Yes.

When you have Xbox deadenders clinging to numbers that aren't just 'a bit high' or 'overly generous' but outright delusional it makes it clear just how absolutely vital the fake sales numbers being put out by the little Xbox fan at vgchartz is. If it wasn't for vgchartz giving the Xbox deadenders something to cling to, we would almost certainly see Xbox One sales in the US be as dead as they are in Japan and Europe.

@quadknight said:

@Ant_17 said:

@seaofsalt said:

@gfxpipeline said:

Microsoft is:

* 50 million behind Sony's PS4.

* Last place in sales in the US with its biggest game of the year in the most recent month

* Dead in the other two major console markets Japan and Europe

No it's not, the Xbox One is still tracking ahead of the 360 in North America and just recently (a few months back) fell behind the 360 tracking globally. It's on the cusp of 40 million units, the 360 in February of the same time from launch was at 39.7 million. You clearly don't pay attention to relevant sales, analyst information and data.

Lol 40 million.

No way my region bought 20 million bones.

The guy is so delusional.

Remember he's the one that was predicting that Xbone was gonna overtake PS4 back in 2015 thanks to Halo 5.

Nice!

I sincerely hope that this last part is wrong. I take solace into thinking that at least a huge portion of them are just dumb kids with too much time on their hands.

@quadknight:

A quick note on US console sales in March

It's unsurprising that Hardware sales volume in the US was down 30% YoY and software sales was down 18% due to a harsh comparison against March 17 when the Switch was released.

The relative sales volumes of game hardware was:

PS4: 1.15

Switch: 1

XBox One: 0.97

3DS: 0.43

YoY

PS4: -9%

Switch: -66%

XBox One: +24%

3DS: +19%

Unfortunately its not. Most here are over 30.

The PS4 has the largest market share in NA, but it's not nearly as large as people think it is; probably only a 5-6M difference between the PS4, and XONE if you look at how software sales are distributed. The biggest difference is that the PS4 does significantly better in other regions like LATAM, APAC, and EMEA.

You would have been with the rest of idiots if PS4 had been the one in last. Hell, you'd probably have been mocking Nintendo fans if Switch were last. You can't act high and mighty when you're just as stupid as everyone in this stupid argument.

Seems like all of the consoles had a good month to me. Don't see the issue, but fanboy away.

@shawty_beatz: I'm playing Horizon right now, and it is a damn fine game. Still relevant in 2018 and probably also in 2019.

@lebanese_boy: Yeah, but that is just how it is. Gamers on system wars are obsessed with convincing others that their gaming system is the best. They probably enjoy insulting each other more than actually playing games.

Anyway, good luck with that diarrhea. Drink a lot of coca cola and play good video games. That should cure you.

@Pedro: I am over 40! But I will soon turn 100 if I keep reading System Wars... By they way, are there any Atari 2600 or Colecovision fanboys out there? I think the Colecovision should have sold as well as the Atari 2600. The former has got better graphics, though it doesn't quite achieve 4k resolution in demanding games such as Mouse Trap...

Halo 6, your our only hope.

Said no one ever.

Aren't we all waiting for State of Decay 2 this May? It's the only MS game I know it's releasing as far as big MS game goes.

@pmanden: off topic. Horzion is a really good game, just don’t attempt the DLC until you are fully upgraded or you’ll get kill in seconds. Lol

What I don't understand is why do Cows keep saying the Xbox one is a flop? It hasn't sold as much as the PS4 but its hardly a flop.

If the PS4 is at around 70 Million sales, and Xbox One is most likely at least half that, hell 35 - 40 Million sales is hardly a flop, especially considering the disaster of a lunch the Xbox One had, its pretty obvious the sales numbers would be much closer if MS didn't screw up with the horrible launch for the X1. MS main problem with the Xbox One atm is the exclusives. I don't think the X1 has had a system seller since its been out. The PS4 on the other hand has had quite a few.

Hopefully MS will learn from this gen and come back stronger next gen.

Not in China since this market is gaming PC dominated.

Well yeah, PC (and Mobile) is larger in most if not all regions. I'm talking specifically about consoles in North America.

He mocks Nintendo now with the Switch. The fact that he thinks he's above the fanboys is laughable.

300k at a higher price point (and possibly a higher profit margin) is a win.

LOL. Find anything to back your claim. I will wait.

@calvincfb: you would of been able to play these games regardless of the sales gap. If anything you probly would have more games if competition was more fierce.

Lemmings were all about "Xbox One X has more power and 4K! RIP SONY 2018". Now we can see how that turned out to be a loser argument

All "Xbox One X" did is to restore Xbox position similar to Xbox 360's multi-platform superiority over PS3 position.

@lhughey: No clue how many of those were scorpios

Lol did Nya get the boot again already?

Hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... So he is talking consoles and on NA which you conveniently left out of the bold mark,and you replay with PC market and China...

Can you be any more butthurt about the PS4 beating the xbox? Hahahhahaa

Hahahaha you try to imply that power sold consoles,and used a poll about people buying the PS4 because of 1080p..Hahahahaa

Another one of your wrong arguments,the PS3 was more powerful than the xbox 360,the xbox one X is more powerful than the PS4 Pro,they are nothing alike.

For NPD March 2018. XBO has positive 24 percent increase YoY while negative YoY for PS4 (-9 percent) and Switch(-66 percent).

PS3 wasn't powerful where it counts for gaming i.e. GPU's fix function hardware. PS3's RSX FP32 shaders wasn't even full speed idiot.

Higher FLOPS means little when RSX communication latency with SPEs are higher than processing GPU shader programs within the GPU chip. No modern GPU setup follows PS3's high latency split design.

SPE's 128 registers is not even fcking PC GPU level register count.

RSX has 24 pixel pipelines and that's 24 fragment data I/O ports idiot. Some fool counted it's FLOPS as FPU1 and it's following FPU2 stage as flat FLOPS .

Pixel Shader pipeline for NVIDIA G7X/RSX

RSX's bottleneck is input fragment data i.e. FP32 Shader Unit 2 is dependent on FP32 Shader Unit 1.

RSX's pixel shader FP units are NOT generalized as per unified shader era GPUs

Xenos has 48 flat unifed shaders with 48 I/O fragment data ports.

GeForce 8600 GT has 32 flat unified shaders with 32 I/O fragment data port at nearly twice the clock speed over fix function GPU hardware.

@ronvalencia: Counting Switch's drop is a bit unfair, don't you think?

What is bizarre about anyone trying to claim the Xbox 360 could put out PS3 level graphics is it 2018.

Microsoft had years to demonstrate the Xbox 360 could match the PS3 and utterly failed to do so. The game is long over and the Xbox 360 lost. Posting the same technobabble from PC fanboy sites like beyond3d is pathetically sad.

There's a reason Microsoft was so scared of the PS3 graphical power advantage that they resorted to forcing 'parity clauses' on third party developers that required them to gimp their games down to Xbox 360 levels in both content(scared of Blu-ray) and graphics(scared of Cell+RSX).

The PS3 exclusives crushed Xbox 360 exclusives across the board in every single category of graphics:

• Resolution
• Poly counts
• Materials
• Lighting
• Physics/animation and particles

Killzone - Running a lighting engine so good Xbox fans screamed that it was impossible CGI level graphics. The Xbox 360 wasn't even able to run a Killzone type engine due to being gimped with it pathetic 10megs of EDRAM.

Gran Turismo - High resolution while pumping out higher poly counts and a vastly more advanced lighting model than Forza

Uncharted - Massive world data(material and geometry) thanks to the giant PS3 Blu-ray drive while the Xbox 360 was gimped with a last gen storage format

And on and on. There wasn't a single first party game where Microsoft was able to put out PS3 level graphics in the entire generation. People need to get over it and move on. It's not 2006/7 anymore.

On apples to apples comparison like Battlefield 3 using the same art work assets, Xbox 360 is superior over PS3. Like Killzone 3, EA DICE used SPEs for deferred rendering for PS3.

@gfxpipeline said:

Killzone - Running a lighting engine so good Xbox fans screamed that it was impossible CGI level graphics. The Xbox 360 wasn't even able to run a Killzone type engine due to being gimped with it pathetic 10megs of EDRAM.

Bullshit, Killzone 2 and 3 used deferred rendering engine which has been implemented on Battlefield 3

@gfxpipeline said:

Gran Turismo - High resolution while pumping out higher poly counts and a vastly more advanced lighting model than Forza

Bullshit. Polygon model extracted from DVD wouldn't shows real time tessellated polygons. Idiot.

@gfxpipeline said:

Uncharted - Massive world data(material and geometry) thanks to the giant PS3 Blu-ray drive while the Xbox 360 was gimped with a last gen storage format

Bullshit, The bottleneck is data fetch rate from blu-ray drive.

@gfxpipeline said:

And on and on. There wasn't a single first party game where Microsoft was able to put out PS3 level graphics in the entire generation. People need to get over it and move on. It's not 2006/7 anymore.

Your comparison wasn't even standardised benchmark methods.

Impotent rage isn't going make the Xbox 360 put out PS3 level graphics.

Get over it and move on.

You still lose in apples to apples comparison noob.

Good Lord, 2 dorks that have no clue what they're talking about just infested this thread.

Which isn't a Killzone type engine is it you idiot..........Hahahahahaha......

You wouldn't even be able to get Killzone's frame buffer into the EDRAM so he's CORRECT

Battlefield 3 Xbox 360 uses tiled render deferred rendering idiot. To maximise SPU usage, tile rendering methods must be used!

Xbox 360's GPU memory write to GDDR3 memory for CPU consumption example. For Xbox 360's Battlefield 3, both CPU and GPU has G-buffer processing.

Xbox 360's GPU ALUs are use to function like PS3's SPUs

Battlefield 3 PS3's SPU tile render.

https://www.slideshare.net/guerrillagames/deferred-rendering-in-killzone-2-9691589

Killzone 2 used deferred rendering. RSX itself doesn't have tile rendering capabilities.

Xbox 360 GPU can use both GDDR3 (22.4GB/s, TMU read/write via compute shader mode) and EDRAM (8 ROPS read/write, pixel shader mode). Xbox 360 GPU is a near-DirectX10 class GPU. EDRAM is not the only memory location for rendering on Xbox 360.

Crysis 2 also used deferred rendering

Halo Reach also used deferred rendering

Btw,

1. Running PS3 emulated games on PC gets translated into NVIDIA's tile cache render.

2. NVIDIA can't sue AMD on immediate mode tile cache rendering since Xbox 360 has manual (game programmer driven) immediate mode tile cache rendering capability.

@Ant_17: well baseball is America's favorite past time... makes sense it beats a crappy looking pirate SIM

Btw where are those oh Nintendo switch is gonna fail folks at

Remember when the Xbox One X was going to dominate the console race?

Yeah, but i have heard it's boring now, since the players don't use steroids and score homeruns every time.

Xbox X is a retro 4K console lol

I dunno, man. That World Series last year was ludicrously dramatic! I didn't even know baseball could be like that.

Well, i have never watched a game. I'm just basing this on word to mouth.

Shouldn't Switch be up and Sony down?

@quadknight: who cares?? you're neither sony nor microsoft. why would you care how much they sold??

i'll say why, because you're a pathetic fanboy who is uncertain about his/her choice of console and is trying to justify his/her purchase

You obviously do you butthurt clown otherwise you wouldn't be having a fanboy meltdown in my thread right now....

@quadknight said:

@pouriarjj said:

@quadknight: who cares?? you're neither sony nor microsoft. why would you care how much they sold??

i'll say why, because you're a pathetic fanboy who is uncertain about his/her choice of console and is trying to justify his/her purchase

You obviously do you butthurt clown otherwise you wouldn't be having a fanboy meltdown in my thread right now....

as a matter of fact i have never owned an xbox or a game console for that matter in my life

i'm not gonna limit myself to a brand or company because i'm not a fanboy like you

#pcmasterrace

@pouriarjj: #pcbeggarrace

And I can bet money I’ve been gaming on PC longer than your butthurt clown ass ?.

Sea of Thieves comes second after Far Cry 5. Digital sales not included.

https://venturebeat.com/2018/04/24/march-npd-2018-far-cry-5-debuts-as-the-top-selling-game-of-the-year/

Try again fake Hermit.

Uh, digital sales included.

1. Far Cry 5
2. Sea Of Thieves
3. MLB 18: The Show
4. Kirby Star Allies*
5. Grand Theft Auto V
6. Call of Duty: WWII
7. Mario Kart 8*
8. Ni No Kuni II: Revenant Kingdom
9. NBA 2K18
10. Monster Hunter: World
11. Super Mario Odyssey*
12. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild*
13. PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds**
14. Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six: Siege
15. A Way Out**
16. Assassin’s Creed: Origins
17. Dragon Ball: Fighterz
18. FIFA 18**
19. Splatoon 2*
20. UFC 3

*No digital sales included

**No PC digital sales included

You really need to work on your reading comprehension Ronbot. You can't tell the difference between hardware numbers I posted and software? Sea of Trash failed to help Xbone win for the month, it still came in last.

@quadknight said:

@ronvalencia said:

@quadknight said:

Straight from Resetera

PS4: 354k

Switch: 308k

XBO: 299k

Time to abandon ship for lems? Not even 4K chickens could save the FlopBone ship from sinking. April NPD will be a total bloodbath.

Sea of Thieves comes second after Far Cry 5. Digital sales not included.

https://venturebeat.com/2018/04/24/march-npd-2018-far-cry-5-debuts-as-the-top-selling-game-of-the-year/

Try again fake Hermit.

You really need to work on your reading comprehension Ronbot. You can't tell the difference between hardware numbers I posted and software? Sea of Trash failed to help Xbone win for the month, it still came in last.

You really are Salty that Sea of Thieves sold great last month, aren't you?