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#51 CentricStorm
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Super Mario Galaxy would have got, at the most, a score of 9.5 if it was on PC, unless the PC version was given a massive graphics overhaul, and if surround sound support was added. Excluding the fact that PC games can never get a 10 because the platform is ever-evolving, seriously, how could a game that doesn't even support standard 5.1 surround sound score a perfect 10 on PC?
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#52 oldkingallant
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[QUOTE="CentricStorm"]Super Mario Galaxy would have got, at the most, a score of 9.5 if it was on PC, unless the PC version was given a massive graphics overhaul, and if surround sound support was added. Excluding the fact that PC games can never get a 10 because the platform is ever-evolving, seriously, how could a game that doesn't even support standard 5.1 surround sound score a perfect 10 on PC?

Great, another person who completely misses the point of gaming and thinks everything needs amazing graphics and surround sound to get a perfect 10.....
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#53 Rahnyc4
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platformers are more fun than RTS's, is all i gotta say.
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#54 Mario1331
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now your going to get the almighty hermits butthurt over this

btw how are you comparing two completely different games?

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#55 hypoty
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platformers are more fun than RTS's, is all i gotta say. Rahnyc4

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#56 oldkingallant
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[QUOTE="oldkingallant"][QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]I haven't played either but due to standards its obvious that SC2 on wii would have got 10 (in lack of higher scores) and SMG2 on PC would have probably been 9.0gamebreakerz__
*facepalm* Yes I'm sure the PC gets scored on higher standards than consoles... that's why Halo Wars one of the better RTS for consoles (which isn't saying much) got a 6.5 here. REALLY adjusted to the standards there. So are PS3 and 360 also judged on a lower standard? Or are you once again showing your rabid fanboyism and unfounded hate for the Wii?

Bro, you fail. Have you not seen the quote from Kevin Van Ord, one of the most experienced reviewers on GS, saying that there are standards for every system compared to it's tech specs. Saying if the PCs scores were based on the console version then they would always score higher. Get your facts straight bro.

Okay so because one guy at Gamespot says there are different standards for TECH (so graphics and sound, which aren't even necessary to be a perfect game from the whole GAME aspect) means that the standards of every critic vary by platform and none of them are judging gameplay? As long as graphics aren't glitchy and the sound doesn't cut out or anything a game should be able to get a perfect score without the best of the best. I'm not the one who fails, you consistently embarrass yourself in threads with your baseless Wii bashing (try OWNING every system before you criticize it, I didn't join SW until I had all 3 consoles with SOME ability to play PC games as well and could make fair comparisons). And stop calling me bro, bro is a word I reserve to let cool people call me, and you're definitely not a cool person.....
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#57 oldkingallant
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now your going to get the almighty hermits butthurt over this

btw how are you comparing two completely different games?

Mario1331
And gamebreakerz is gonna have to come into a conversation they have NOTHING to do with as they don't own a gaming rig or a Wii and start bashing the Wii and parade around with their talk about "standards." Seriously I rarely hear people bring up different standards into arguments these days, this is the last person I see consistently doing it.
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#58 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"][QUOTE="infamousxii"] I see your still on your crusade to prove console is better than PC because it doesnt have a 10. Anyways everyone but you unstands that PC will never get a 10, the pc is unlimted in it's ability so nothing will ever be perfect.infamousxii

im not trying to prove anthing , the topic title should just gain attention by being controverse :D , in fact i like pc games as much as console games , if i didnt like pc gaming i wouldnt get a alienware laptop in first place

"insert funny face palm pic"

whats wrong with alienware?i mean they are gaming laptops.....

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#59 Mario1331
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Even if StarCraft 2 scores a 5 its still a better game than Super Mario Galaxy 2raskullibur

oh cmon now this is just an ignorant statement

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#60 oldkingallant
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[QUOTE="raskullibur"]Even if StarCraft 2 scores a 5 its still a better game than Super Mario Galaxy 2Mario1331

oh cmon now this is just an ignorant statement

Yeah I've become very disappointed in my fellow System Warriors today... so much baseless Wii bashing today and talk of lower standards and nostalgia being the only reason SMG2 got a 10...... what's with the delayed DC? Game came out 2 months ago....
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#61 oldkingallant
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By the way let's talk about standards. In 2007 Super Mario Galaxy won Gamespot's Overall Game of the Year. 2007 was a pretty tough year, there were games on other platforms that scored a 9.5... but SMG won. Huh, I guess SMG wasn't graded on a lower standard because of the Wii, seeing as it was able to beat out other 9.5 rated games on other platforms.

Now for the absurd theory that standards even vary when picking GOTY, a Wii game is more likely to win than a PC game of equal quality? Is that your explanation? :roll:

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#62 CentricStorm
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[QUOTE="oldkingallant"]

By the way let's talk about standards. In 2007 Super Mario Galaxy won Gamespot's Overall Game of the Year. 2007 was a pretty tough year, there were games on other platforms that scored a 9.5... but SMG won. Huh, I guess SMG wasn't graded on a lower standard because of the Wii, seeing as it was able to beat out other 9.5 rated games on other platforms.

Now for the absurd theory that standards even vary when picking GOTY, a Wii game is more likely to win than a PC game of equal quality? Is that your explanation? :roll:

You better hope that Super Mario Galaxy 2 wins Gamespot's Game of the Year 2010, or your theory is totally disproved. Hang on a second...your argument is already fundamentally flawed. Gamespot gave Demon's Souls Game of the Year 2009 even though it got a lower score than Uncharted 2, a game from the same system.
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#63 Mario1331
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idk about all this standard nonsense but i do know DS won GOTY, and SMG won GOTY against Halo3 and Crysis and other big names

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#64 Scoob64
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GS score wise , PC was really close to a AAAAE this time

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The fact that you base how good a game is upon a website's review score is reason for concern... try thinking for yourself.

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#65 wooooode
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[QUOTE="wooooode"]If Starcraft 2 was on the Wii it would have got a 20.ForceFreeze

Not after being dumbed down for the port, of course >_>

I am saying at the same quality, but we all know that is not really possible.
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#66 The-Mosher
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I don't see how your comparing two games with each one being from different genres.

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#67 kweeni
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Sorry dude but if I had to chose between those 2 games I would go with SC2 no doupt.
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#68 therancors
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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="oldkingallant"] *facepalm* Yes I'm sure the PC gets scored on higher standards than consoles... that's why Halo Wars one of the better RTS for consoles (which isn't saying much) got a 6.5 here. REALLY adjusted to the standards there. So are PS3 and 360 also judged on a lower standard? Or are you once again showing your rabid fanboyism and unfounded hate for the Wii?oldkingallant
Bro, you fail. Have you not seen the quote from Kevin Van Ord, one of the most experienced reviewers on GS, saying that there are standards for every system compared to it's tech specs. Saying if the PCs scores were based on the console version then they would always score higher. Get your facts straight bro.

Okay so because one guy at Gamespot says there are different standards for TECH (so graphics and sound, which aren't even necessary to be a perfect game from the whole GAME aspect) means that the standards of every critic vary by platform and none of them are judging gameplay? As long as graphics aren't glitchy and the sound doesn't cut out or anything a game should be able to get a perfect score without the best of the best. I'm not the one who fails, you consistently embarrass yourself in threads with your baseless Wii bashing (try OWNING every system before you criticize it, I didn't join SW until I had all 3 consoles with SOME ability to play PC games as well and could make fair comparisons). And stop calling me bro, bro is a word I reserve to let cool people call me, and you're definitely not a cool person.....

From Gamespot's rating system

"We rate games on a scale of 1 (the absolute worst) to 10 (the absolute best). The rating we assign to each game is intended to give you an at-a-glance sense of the overall quality of the game relative to other games on the same platform.However, we encourage you to read our full reviews and watch our video reviews to give context to our ratings."

So in a sense, different standards i guess.

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#69 N30F3N1X
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*facepalm*

And I thought that we had seen all mentally challenged people in System Wars during the "SC2 is not exclusive" argument...I guess I had to know that hope couldn't be so far from the truth.

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#70 longtonguecat
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By the way let's talk about standards. In 2007 Super Mario Galaxy won Gamespot's Overall Game of the Year. 2007 was a pretty tough year, there were games on other platforms that scored a 9.5... but SMG won. Huh, I guess SMG wasn't graded on a lower standard because of the Wii, seeing as it was able to beat out other 9.5 rated games on other platforms.

Now for the absurd theory that standards even vary when picking GOTY, a Wii game is more likely to win than a PC game of equal quality? Is that your explanation? :roll:

oldkingallant

GoTY isn't purely about best standard game though, it's the overall game of the year in terms of quality, innovation, impact enjoyment... Everything... Thus why Demon's Souls won over higher rated games.

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#71 -CheeseEater-
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[QUOTE="wooooode"]If Starcraft 2 was on the Wii it would have got a 20.ForceFreeze

Not after being dumbed down for the port, of course >_>

LMAO! Golden!
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#72 clyde46
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[QUOTE="infamousxii"][QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"] im not really comparing the games , the topic title just refers to the scores , the point is more that pc almost got a AAAAE this time , almostAmnesiaHaze
I see your still on your crusade to prove console is better than PC because it doesnt have a 10. Anyways everyone but you unstands that PC will never get a 10, the pc is unlimted in it's ability so nothing will ever be perfect.

im not trying to prove anthing , the topic title should just gain attention by being controverse :D , in fact i like pc games as much as console games , if i didnt like pc gaming i wouldnt get a alienware laptop in first place

>Gaming

>Laptop

Pick one.

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#73 CentricStorm
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[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"][QUOTE="infamousxii"] I see your still on your crusade to prove console is better than PC because it doesnt have a 10. Anyways everyone but you unstands that PC will never get a 10, the pc is unlimted in it's ability so nothing will ever be perfect.clyde46

im not trying to prove anthing , the topic title should just gain attention by being controverse :D , in fact i like pc games as much as console games , if i didnt like pc gaming i wouldnt get a alienware laptop in first place

>Gaming

>Laptop

Pick one.

Nothing wrong with gaming on laptops at all...there are some pretty strong systems available at the moment. Alienware, however - definitely something wrong with that.
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#74 AmnesiaHaze
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Alienware, however - definitely something wrong with that.CentricStorm
theres nothing wrong with it , did you even try one yet ? all my games run smooth on high video settings
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#75 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]

[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"] im not trying to prove anthing , the topic title should just gain attention by being controverse :D , in fact i like pc games as much as console games , if i didnt like pc gaming i wouldnt get a alienware laptop in first placeCentricStorm

>Gaming

>Laptop

Pick one.

Nothing wrong with gaming on laptops at all...there are some pretty strong systems available at the moment. Alienware, however - definitely something wrong with that.

>Gaming

>Battery life

Pick one.

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#76 AmnesiaHaze
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>Gaming

>Battery Life

Pick one.

clyde46

thats true someone needs to invent a battery life regeneration device , oh wait there is the Ac adapter

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#77 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]

>Gaming

>Laptop

Pick one.

AmnesiaHaze

thats true someone needs to invent a battery life regeneration device , oh wait there is the Ac adapter

Have fun gaming while away from a AC point, oh wait.......
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#78 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="CentricStorm"][QUOTE="clyde46"]

>Gaming

>Laptop

Pick one.

clyde46

Nothing wrong with gaming on laptops at all...there are some pretty strong systems available at the moment. Alienware, however - definitely something wrong with that.

>Gaming

>Battery life

Pick one.

i know what you mean, but its not like you cant play on a laptop while its charging thus battery life isnt an issue... However i do believe standard PC's are better for gaming than spending a fortune on a 'gaming' Laptop..

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#79 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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But why just stop at Super Mario Galaxy 2! Let's look at all the past scores!
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#80 CentricStorm
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[QUOTE="CentricStorm"]Alienware, however - definitely something wrong with that.AmnesiaHaze
theres nothing wrong with it , did you even try one yet ? all my games run smooth on high video settings

There's nothing physically wrong with Alienware computers...it's just that they are massively overpriced for their specifications.
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#81 -Snooze-
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Mario Galaxy is crap. I'd rather play Haze

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#82 AmnesiaHaze
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[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"]

>Gaming

>Laptop

Pick one.

clyde46

thats true someone needs to invent a battery life regeneration device , oh wait there is the Ac adapter

Have fun gaming while away from a AC point, oh wait.......

how would that be different with a desktop without a power outlet , except it has not even the battery life

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#83 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"] thats true someone needs to invent a battery life regeneration device , oh wait there is the Ac adapter

AmnesiaHaze

Have fun gaming while away from a AC point, oh wait.......

how would that be different with a desktop without a power outlet , except it has not even the battery life

My desktop is for gaming, my netbook for out and about internet use. Also your sentence made no sense what so ever.
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#84 AmnesiaHaze
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"]

Have fun gaming while away from a AC point, oh wait.......clyde46
how would that be different with a desktop without a power outlet , except it has not even the battery life

My desktop is for gaming, my netbook for out and about internet use. Also your sentence made no sense what so ever.

and i got one device for everything , and its very easy to transport when joining lan parties
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#85 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"] how would that be different with a desktop without a power outlet , except it has not even the battery life

AmnesiaHaze

My desktop is for gaming, my netbook for out and about internet use. Also your sentence made no sense what so ever.

and i got one device for everything , and its very easy to transport when joining lan parties

My desktop is portable :|

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#86 surrealnumber5
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If Starcraft 2 was on the Wii it would have got a 20.wooooode
if SMG2 were on the ps360 it would have got a 50
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#87 Evolution-X0
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[QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]

Yup...let's compare a Platformer/Adventure game with an RTS.

AmnesiaHaze

im not comparing games but scores :)

Fail. Your just comparing GS scores? XD i get it, your joking right?
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#88 scoots9
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PC has higher standards, that is accounted for in review scores. That being said, I'd rather buy SMG2, as I remain convinced that Activision is evil and refuse to ever pay $60 for a game regardless of quality.

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#89 -Snooze-
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[QUOTE="wooooode"]If Starcraft 2 was on the Wii it would have got a 20.surrealnumber5
if SMG2 were on the ps360 it would have got a 50

The standards argument would disagree.

SMG wouldnt get a 10 on the PS3/360 or PC cause it looks like ass. It'd be marked down for graphics. SC2 would get less on the 360 and PS3 then on the wii cause on the Wii it'd be graphics king ...

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#90 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="wooooode"]If Starcraft 2 was on the Wii it would have got a 20.-Snooze-

if SMG2 were on the ps360 it would have got a 50

The standards argument would disagree.

SMG wouldnt get a 10 on the PS3/360 or PC cause it looks like ass. It'd be marked down for graphics. SC2 would get less on the 360 and PS3 then on the wii cause on the Wii it'd be graphics king ...

what?

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#91 foxhound_fox
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But a 9.5 on PC is like a 10.5 on consoles. The standards are that different (considering no PC game has got a 10 yet). Not to mention the fact you are comparing a 3D platformer to a RTS, two entirely different games with entirely different genre standards.

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#92 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="wooooode"]If Starcraft 2 was on the Wii it would have got a 20.-Snooze-

if SMG2 were on the ps360 it would have got a 50

The standards argument would disagree.

SMG wouldnt get a 10 on the PS3/360 or PC cause it looks like ass. It'd be marked down for graphics. SC2 would get less on the 360 and PS3 then on the wii cause on the Wii it'd be graphics king ...

prove it and i will disprove "If Starcraft 2 was on the Wii it would have got a 20."
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#93 TerrorRizzing
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well smg2 could of easily gotten a 9.0 or 9.5 given the right reviewer. Kevin V had some silly issues with starcraft 2 that kept it from getting a 10. Oh well, cest la vie.

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#94 AmnesiaHaze
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[QUOTE="Evolution-X0"][QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"]

[QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]

Yup...let's compare a Platformer/Adventure game with an RTS.

im not comparing games but scores :)

Fail. Your just comparing GS scores? XD i get it, your joking right?

im testing how much attention such controverse title gets , however it turned out to be a offtopic discussion about my laptop :D
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#95 -Snooze-
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] if SMG2 were on the ps360 it would have got a 50 surrealnumber5

The standards argument would disagree.

SMG wouldnt get a 10 on the PS3/360 or PC cause it looks like ass. It'd be marked down for graphics. SC2 would get less on the 360 and PS3 then on the wii cause on the Wii it'd be graphics king ...

prove it and i will disprove "If Starcraft 2 was on the Wii it would have got a 20."

It kinda says so in the Gamepsot info thread.

Games are rated according to the console there on. No one was expecting SMG 2 to be HD, and have excellent graphics, cause it's on the Wii. Putting it on the other consoles would of course up the graphical expectations.

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#96 AzatiS
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You know what , if we take aside scores is a damn FACT that Nintendo fans cant bring their MOTTO """ gameplay wins "" VS SC2.

What i mean is that SC2 is as polished and well done for its genre as it is Mario for its. Not to say is way more difficult to introduce a solid RTS gameplaythan Platform but lets not talk about that.

SO if we assume gameplay is for both games at top standards. What left to compare? ( ill take aside graphics and sound dont worry )

Strong Story and campaign mode , CGIs , great Soundtrack that even hollywood movies might be jealous , great value thru MP , great action pack , epic memorable moments ,great value as a purschase since its fact SC2 gamers wil be playing online at least the next 5-6 years orto be more accurate...... till SC3 release.

Now add the community happenings and events , blizzards monthly support with patching , polishing and why not introducing new content/maps... Its not difficult to declare a clear winner between two... AND NO , im NOT an RTS fan nor im a Platformer fan. I played both and saying some facts here.

SC2s heavy value alone >>>>>>>> SMG2 by miles.... Imho.

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#97 DarthBilf
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They're both great games. However, I enjoyed playing SMG2 more than I'm enjoying Starcraft, so IMO, yeah, Mario Galaxy 2 is better than Starcraft 2.
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#98 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

The standards argument would disagree.

SMG wouldnt get a 10 on the PS3/360 or PC cause it looks like ass. It'd be marked down for graphics. SC2 would get less on the 360 and PS3 then on the wii cause on the Wii it'd be graphics king ...

-Snooze-

prove it and i will disprove "If Starcraft 2 was on the Wii it would have got a 20."

It kinda says so in the Gamepsot info thread.

Games are rated according to the console there on. No one was expecting SMG 2 to be HD, and have excellent graphics, cause it's on the Wii. Putting it on the other consoles would of course up the graphical expectations.

where does it say the max wii game is scaled at .475 that of the pc's scale? show me that and i will show you where it says the ps360 scale is that of .20 of the wii's scale. the the wii game SMG beat a other systems 9.5 games for game of the year that should have told you something and that something should be along the lines of: SMG when compared to games like crysis was found to be an over all more enjoyable game. with your argument no wii game could ever win a game of the year because it would have to compete with games that outclass it, like a boys and girls club team going up against a pro team.
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#99 Syn_Valence
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

The standards argument would disagree.

SMG wouldnt get a 10 on the PS3/360 or PC cause it looks like ass. It'd be marked down for graphics. SC2 would get less on the 360 and PS3 then on the wii cause on the Wii it'd be graphics king ...

-Snooze-

prove it and i will disprove "If Starcraft 2 was on the Wii it would have got a 20."

It kinda says so in the Gamepsot info thread.

Games are rated according to the console there on. No one was expecting SMG 2 to be HD, and have excellent graphics, cause it's on the Wii. Putting it on the other consoles would of course up the graphical expectations.

Preach on brother what i wanted to say..........but i can barely keep my eyes open so i'll let you have the honor
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#100 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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lol have you ever heard of differing standards for different platforms? 9.5 on PC would break the scoring system if the exact same game (graphics, controls, depth, multiplayer etc) appeared on the Wii. You'd have to drop every other game by 3 points just to award it a 10.