Mario is the most overrated franchise!!!

[QUOTE="alskdjfhg1"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

:|

As if I needed to be any more clear.....

No one here (got it?) calls Halo: CE overrated unless someone calls it the god of console FPS or something stupid like that.

Silverbond

PRT-CCM gave a link. :|

What are you talking about?

I think Super Mario Galaxy is my favorite Mario game...

[QUOTE="PRT-CCM"]

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

I know right, The Paper Mario series, Mario & Luigi Trilogy,Super Mario 64, NSMB, and Super Mario Galaxy were such horrible abominations. :roll:

Lionheart08

Congratulations, you mentioned 5 Mario games, out of over-200!

:lol:

The Paper Mario series include 3 games, as does the Mario & Luigi Trilogy.

And there's been over 200 Mario games since the SNES days? Care to back that up?

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

The Paper Mario series include 3 games, as does the Mario & Luigi Trilogy.

And there's been over 200 Mario games since the SNES days? Care to back that up?

alskdjfhg1

Then why didn't he say that instead of all the exaggeration?

[QUOTE="alskdjfhg1"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

The Paper Mario series include 3 games, as does the Mario & Luigi Trilogy.

And there's been over 200 Mario games since the SNES days? Care to back that up?

Silverbond

Then why didn't he say that instead of all the exaggeration?

Mario has appeared in over 200 games.

Master Chief in 3.

Which one is more overrated/milked?

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

[QUOTE="PRT-CCM"]

Congratulations, you mentioned 5 Mario games, out of over-200!

:lol:

alskdjfhg1

The Paper Mario series include 3 games, as does the Mario & Luigi Trilogy.

And there's been over 200 Mario games since the SNES days? Care to back that up?

Oh I know what he meant, but it doesn't prevent his argument drom being weak. Instead of actually, I dunno, giving a decent argumemt on why he think the series is overrated, or explain titles that prove his point, he just pulls a random number from his butt.

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="alskdjfhg1"] What he meant by the statement, is that there are ALOT. PRT-CCM

Then why didn't he say that instead of all the exaggeration?

Mario has appeared in over 200 games.

Master Chief in 3.

Which one is more overrated/milked?

Overrated and milked mean the same thing these days? News to me.

[QUOTE="alskdjfhg1"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

The Paper Mario series include 3 games, as does the Mario & Luigi Trilogy.

And there's been over 200 Mario games since the SNES days? Care to back that up?

Silverbond

Then why didn't he say that instead of all the exaggeration?

[QUOTE="PRT-CCM"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Then why didn't he say that instead of all the exaggeration?

Silverbond

Mario has appeared in over 200 games.

Master Chief in 3.

Which one is more overrated/milked?

Overrated and milked mean the same thing these days? News to me.

Milked to hell and back.

And overrated. People call Mario one of the best series of all time, yet can't give any good arguments for their claims.

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="alskdjfhg1"] What he meant by the statement, is that there are ALOT. PRT-CCM

Then why didn't he say that instead of all the exaggeration?

Mario has appeared in over 200 games.

Master Chief in 3.

Which one is more overrated/milked?

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="PRT-CCM"]

Mario has appeared in over 200 games.

Master Chief in 3.

Which one is more overrated/milked?

PRT-CCM

Overrated and milked mean the same thing these days? News to me.

Milked to hell and back.

And overrated. People call Mario one of the best series of all time, yet can't give any good arguments for their claims.

And you can't give any good arguments for why it's overrated.

[QUOTE="alskdjfhg1"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Except the Mario franchise is relevant.

bowser3

And quality games that almost 90% of the time get AAA scores.

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="alskdjfhg1"] What he meant by the statement, is that there are ALOT. PRT-CCM

Then why didn't he say that instead of all the exaggeration?

Mario has appeared in over 200 games.

Master Chief in 3.

Which one is more overrated/milked?

Overrated and milked are two different things. Having a large amount of titles does not make a series overrated.:|

Also A little thing I liked to point out, come next year the 6th Halo game will be out. Still not a lot, but I noticed you decided to ignore Halo's spin offs. If that's the case, there's only been 15 actual mario games in the past 28 years.

wow, TC actually took the devaition of topic from another thread and made his own. glad you're actually using the subjective stance for the most part (though you failed to reply to the last things I stated on the significance of the franchise to the industry). however, if you're talking about the main installments you will be in the minority simply because such a statement is rather outlandish. the amount of joy mario has brought to gamers with the main installments and less game centric audiences with his various (though admittedly too frequent) spinoffs cannot be denied. there obviously is still magic there if critics who've played thousands of games over the decade and managed to make a professional career in such, and gamers who've likely played just as much, can still find reason to praise it and in the masses.

I understand this isnt going to change your mind quality wise, you've made your stance on what your gaming tastes are. Still, I hope based on the other topic we've debated in earlier it can at least be acknowledged that there is great significance to this franchise industry wise, regarldess of taste.

[QUOTE="PRT-CCM"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Then why didn't he say that instead of all the exaggeration?

Skittles_McGee

Mario has appeared in over 200 games.

Master Chief in 3.

Which one is more overrated/milked?

Not really. Basically, every Nintendo game (almost) has been Mario games or about Mario, because they lack imagination.

There are no new IPs from Nintendo recently to start a franchise, because all they think is Mario and Zelda.

[QUOTE="bowser3"]

[QUOTE="alskdjfhg1"] For quick cash. raskullibur

And quality games that almost 90% of the time get AAA scores.

Proof?

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="PRT-CCM"]

Mario has appeared in over 200 games.

Master Chief in 3.

Which one is more overrated/milked?

PRT-CCM

Overrated and milked mean the same thing these days? News to me.

Milked to hell and back.

And overrated. People call Mario one of the best series of all time, yet can't give any good arguments for their claims.

[QUOTE="bowser3"]

[QUOTE="alskdjfhg1"] For quick cash. raskullibur

And quality games that almost 90% of the time get AAA scores.

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="PRT-CCM"]

Mario has appeared in over 200 games.

Master Chief in 3.

Which one is more overrated/milked?

PRT-CCM

Overrated and milked mean the same thing these days? News to me.

Milked to hell and back.

And overrated. People call Mario one of the best series of all time, yet can't give any good arguments for their claims.

I actually did give you a list of critically acclaimed titles and your only comeback was "Bah there's over 200 titles."

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="PRT-CCM"]

Mario has appeared in over 200 games.

Master Chief in 3.

Which one is more overrated/milked?

PRT-CCM

Not really. Basically, every Nintendo game (almost) has been Mario games or about Mario, because they lack imagination.

There are no new IPs from Nintendo recently to start a franchise, because all they think is Mario and Zelda.

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="PRT-CCM"]

Mario has appeared in over 200 games.

Master Chief in 3.

Which one is more overrated/milked?

PRT-CCM

Not really. Basically, every Nintendo game (almost) has been Mario games or about Mario, because they lack imagination.

There are no new IPs from Nintendo recently to start a franchise, because all they think is Mario and Zelda.

[QUOTE="PRT-CCM"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Then why didn't he say that instead of all the exaggeration?

Lionheart08

Mario has appeared in over 200 games.

Master Chief in 3.

Which one is more overrated/milked?

Overrated and milked are two different things. Having a large amount of titles does not make a series overrated.:|

Also A little thing I liked to point out, come next year the 6th Halo game will be out. Still not a lot, but I noticed you decided to ignore Halo's spin offs. If that's the case, there's only been 15 actual mario games in the past 28 years.

Bungie has only produced 3 main Halo games, and 1 expansion. The reason for the fact that an RTS Halo was released was because the Halo universe is so huge, that it can transform into other genres and other sort of media.

Nintendo has produced so many Mario games not because Mario is a huge 'world', or something, but because they can't think of anything else, lacking any sort of imagination that could ever be there.

That's why the majority of Mario games tend to suck big time, while all Bungie-produced Halo games have received AAA-status and been million-selling games.

[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

[QUOTE="BattleTurtles"] I can't think of one bad Nintendo made spinoff. Camden11

Any Mario RPG.

Intelligent Systems is a first party company to Nintendo, Link. And I don't like any of them.

[QUOTE="Camden11"]

[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

Any Mario RPG.

randomwiiplayer

Intelligent Systems is a first party company to Nintendo, Link. And I don't like any of them.

That's why the majority of Mario games tend to suck big time, while all Bungie-produced Halo games have received AAA-status and been million-selling games.

PRT-CCM

Interesting since all Nintendo developed Mario Games can claim the same. The lowest rated Mario games being an 89% on GR.

wow, TC actually took the devaition of topic from another thread and made his own. glad you're actually using the subjective stance for the most part (though you failed to reply to the last things I stated on the significance of the franchise to the industry). however, if you're talking about the main installments you will be in the minority simply because such a statement is rather outlandish. the amount of joy mario has brought to gamers with the main installments and less game centric audiences with his various (though admittedly too frequent) spinoffs cannot be denied. there obviously is still magic there if critics who've played thousands of games over the decade and managed to make a professional career in such, and gamers who've likely played just as much, can still find reason to praise it and in the masses.

I understand this isnt going to change your mind quality wise, you've made your stance on what your gaming tastes are. Still, I hope based on the other topic we've debated in earlier it can at least be acknowledged that there is great significance to this franchise industry wise, regarldess of taste.

JetLag123

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

[QUOTE="PRT-CCM"]

Mario has appeared in over 200 games.

Master Chief in 3.

Which one is more overrated/milked?

PRT-CCM

Overrated and milked are two different things. Having a large amount of titles does not make a series overrated.:|

Also A little thing I liked to point out, come next year the 6th Halo game will be out. Still not a lot, but I noticed you decided to ignore Halo's spin offs. If that's the case, there's only been 15 actual mario games in the past 28 years.

Bungie has only produced 3 main Halo games, and 1 expansion. The reason for the fact that an RTS Halo was released was because the Halo universe is so huge, that it can transform into other genres and other sort of media.

Nintendo has produced so many Mario games not because Mario is a huge 'world', or something, but because they can't think of anything else, lacking any sort of imagination that could ever be there.

That's why the majority of Mario games tend to suck big time, while all Bungie-produced Halo games have received AAA-status and been million-selling games.

[QUOTE="PRT-CCM"]

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Overrated and milked are two different things. Having a large amount of titles does not make a series overrated.:|

Also A little thing I liked to point out, come next year the 6th Halo game will be out. Still not a lot, but I noticed you decided to ignore Halo's spin offs. If that's the case, there's only been 15 actual mario games in the past 28 years.

Scythes777

Bungie has only produced 3 main Halo games, and 1 expansion. The reason for the fact that an RTS Halo was released was because the Halo universe is so huge, that it can transform into other genres and other sort of media.

Nintendo has produced so many Mario games not because Mario is a huge 'world', or something, but because they can't think of anything else, lacking any sort of imagination that could ever be there.

That's why the majority of Mario games tend to suck big time, while all Bungie-produced Halo games have received AAA-status and been million-selling games.

Wow, that's all you got?

[QUOTE="Scythes777"]hahaha what? Mario is the most iconic and popular game series. Thats why Nintendo decided to expand him to other genres, because hes so successful. The main Mario games have all been stellar.PRT-CCM

Wow, that's all you got?

Like you've provided proof or a convincing argument. :|

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"] Get AAA scores because its a Mario gamealskdjfhg1

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="PRT-CCM"]

Mario has appeared in over 200 games.

Master Chief in 3.

Which one is more overrated/milked?

PRT-CCM

Not really. Basically, every Nintendo game (almost) has been Mario games or about Mario, because they lack imagination.

There are no new IPs from Nintendo recently to start a franchise, because all they think is Mario and Zelda.

now I know you havent actually played much of the installments for etiher mario or zelda. the transition from 2D, to 3D, to galaxy is alot more of a differance than you probably realise. and you should know how very different each zelda is (with exception to oot and tp which were very identical) and considering all the characters seen in smash have franchises with entries at least in the Gamecube/ga era (pit aside) era... I fail to see how all they think is mario and zelda. clearly you either have an unwarranted bias or are very misinformed, bordering on complete ignorance to what you're talking about. you should know gameplay and originality extends beyond what avatar the main character happens programmed with.

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="alskdjfhg1"] It has 91.51% on GRalskdjfhg1

But Gamespot is the only site we use here.

now I know you havent actually played much of the installments for etiher mario or zelda. the transition from 2D, to 3D, to galaxy is alot more of a differance than you probably realise. and you should know how very different each zelda is (with exception to oot and tp which were very identical) and considering all the characters seen in smash have franchises with entries at least in the Gamecube/ga era (pit aside) era... I fail to see how all they think is mario and zelda. clearly you either have an unwarranted bias or are very misinformed, bordering on complete ignorance to what you're talking about. you should know gameplay and originality extends beyond what avatar the main character happens programmed with.JetLag123

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="alskdjfhg1"] Yes, but Gamespot is not the only site on the internet.alskdjfhg1

Except SW does have rules and one of them is that GS is the only site we use here.

[QUOTE="BattleTurtles"][QUOTE="PRT-CCM"]

Congratulations, you mentioned 5 Mario games, out of over-200!

:lol:

DarkLink77

too bad you did not answer the question properly. MADE BY NINTENDO, hudson made mario party, nintendo published it, so nice try

[QUOTE="JetLag123"]

wow, TC actually took the devaition of topic from another thread and made his own. glad you're actually using the subjective stance for the most part (though you failed to reply to the last things I stated on the significance of the franchise to the industry). however, if you're talking about the main installments you will be in the minority simply because such a statement is rather outlandish. the amount of joy mario has brought to gamers with the main installments and less game centric audiences with his various (though admittedly too frequent) spinoffs cannot be denied. there obviously is still magic there if critics who've played thousands of games over the decade and managed to make a professional career in such, and gamers who've likely played just as much, can still find reason to praise it and in the masses.

I understand this isnt going to change your mind quality wise, you've made your stance on what your gaming tastes are. Still, I hope based on the other topic we've debated in earlier it can at least be acknowledged that there is great significance to this franchise industry wise, regarldess of taste.

alskdjfhg1

I didnt throw sonic into any of my arguments, I think you have me confused with someone else in that regard. also the game you were using to compare it with was nothing like mario games, but surely qualified as being in the genre which I can acknowledge. again, your personal taste on how well they were used is subjective but the mimicking from other devs of those new concepts post what you consider "average" shows quite a bit of industry influence as was the point of our debate in the previous topic. they milk the character mario yes. but again, the main installments pretty much stand on their own according to many experienced gamers. I would love to hear the specific reasons why the main installments past 3D were terrible reletive to their time. Im not looking for hostility, but what about their design and mechanics irked you the wrong way?

[QUOTE="alskdjfhg1"][QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"] :o I'm learning more by the minute! But no, you're in Gamespot's System Wars. Like it or not, it doesn't matter what a different site said when you're here.Silverbond

Except SW does have rules and one of them is that GS is the only site we use here.

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="alskdjfhg1"] System Wars has no rules, anything goes. I am using the hyperbole you see...alskdjfhg1

Except SW does have rules and one of them is that GS is the only site we use here.

I think I'm done here. Good day, sir. Good day to you too, PRT-CCM.

I kind of see where your going with your comment but then again a lot of games are overrated. I never found Fallout 3, any MMO's, Killzone 2, Halo and many more any fun either. It's all opinions dude.

[QUOTE="JetLag123"]now I know you havent actually played much of the installments for etiher mario or zelda. the transition from 2D, to 3D, to galaxy is alot more of a differance than you probably realise. and you should know how very different each zelda is (with exception to oot and tp which were very identical) and considering all the characters seen in smash have franchises with entries at least in the Gamecube/ga era (pit aside) era... I fail to see how all they think is mario and zelda. clearly you either have an unwarranted bias or are very misinformed, bordering on complete ignorance to what you're talking about. you should know gameplay and originality extends beyond what avatar the main character happens programmed with.alskdjfhg1

I dont recall reading anything from you on hyperoble so you'll have to forgive me whatever problem it is you have with these arguements. I personally dont see the point of using it in this discussion, considering the usual blindness associate with sw posters it was not immediatly apparent.

[QUOTE="alskdjfhg1"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Except SW does have rules and one of them is that GS is the only site we use here.

Silverbond

I think I'm done here. Good day, sir. Good day to you too, PRT-CCM.

[QUOTE="BattleTurtles"][QUOTE="PRT-CCM"]

Congratulations, you mentioned 5 Mario games, out of over-200!

:lol:

alskdjfhg1

If you consider those games mediocre , than what classifies as a good game in your world, something like Big Rigs?

Oh, and just to let you know, Mario and Sonic Olympic games were developed by Sega.