Mario losing to TES at the polls, sign of losing appeal among gamers?

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#151 Lucianu
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Mario has just started turning into Sonic. A lot of fans still but the majority of people don't care for Mario as mush as before.

Mrmedia01

Generations was one of the best platformers of this generation, All-Stars Racing Transformed is a fantastic racing game, and Sonic Lost World is looking to be a highly unique, polished experience.

Don't see the problem, unless you're living in 2008.

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#152 AM-Gamer
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Sign of hermits flooding the polls like they did couple years ago

Jankarcop

PC has more gamers than consoles.  When they catch wind of polls this isn't an uncommon event.

If you count people playing farmville and the sims then yes.

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#153 AM-Gamer
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]What's really dumb is GOW is beating Final Fantasy. loco145
I would "Taking a turd" over Final Fantasy. FFXIII was that bad.

I agree , So releasing a GOTY candiate and another solid AA title is worse then FF?  FF hasbeen complete garbage this generation.

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#154 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="Mrmedia01"]

Mario has just started turning into Sonic. A lot of fans still but the majority of people don't care for Mario as mush as before.

Think its Nintendo's fault for not diversfing gameplay experices enough. Every system comes out with the same games just updated.

MrYaotubo

So this is equals this?

How about comparing to the more recent ones instead of always bringing the same game? Compare it to Colours or Generations,the scores are pretty similçar with those.

I'm sorry, but saying "turning into Sonic" is just a poor comparison when you consider they had different issues. Before Colors and Generations, Sonic was getting horrible, HORRIBLE reviews, where as the worst of Mario games of the modern era are still being received well

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#155 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="m_machine024"]

While his games are still critically acclaimed, he's just not as popular anymore. Same for all platformers. FPS are where the popularity's at.

m_machine024

He not popular on here, his games are still the best selling exclusives on any console.

Oh yeah forgot about Mario Kart and NSMB. I only had Galaxy games in mind for some reasons.

Over 10 million copies have sold of SMG
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#156 HarlockJC
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It's not hard to beat Super Mario in a "Best Series" poll since the series has been stale for a better part of a decade.

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SMG was the highest rated game last gen and the highest rated of all time. That a stale game?
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#157 Nanomage
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[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

It's not hard to beat Super Mario in a "Best Series" poll since the series has been stale for a better part of a decade.

HarlockJC
SMG was the highest rated game last gen and the highest rated of all time. That a stale game?

Nope,that would be GTA 4,98>97.
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#158 SexyJazzCat
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Sad to see Dead Space losing this round. Very great IP. Atleast FF is winning. All thanks to FFXIII, easily the best FF game in the series.

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#159 blackace
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total war is losing to tomb raider...

Armoured_Mage

Tomb Raider is a more established franchise then Total War. It's been around since the original PS1.

That game was pretty epic for its time. The Tomb Raider reboot seems to have sparked more interest in it.

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#160 Ballroompirate
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[QUOTE="m_machine024"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"] He not popular on here, his games are still the best selling exclusives on any console. HarlockJC

Oh yeah forgot about Mario Kart and NSMB. I only had Galaxy games in mind for some reasons.

Over 10 million copies have sold of SMG

CoD is the best selling FPS franchise, does that make their games good?, RE6 sold almost 5 million does that make it good?, FF13 is one of the best selling FF games, does it make it better than FF4,FF6,FF7 and FF9?

Sales numbers ain't ****, people will buy something solely cause of brand loyalty, not quality value.

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#161 Seabas989
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="m_machine024"]Oh yeah forgot about Mario Kart and NSMB. I only had Galaxy games in mind for some reasons.

Ballroompirate

Over 10 million copies have sold of SMG

CoD is the best selling FPS franchise, does that make their games good?, RE6 sold almost 5 million does that make it good?, FF13 is one of the best selling FF games, does it make it better than FF4,FF6,FF7 and FF9?

Sales numbers ain't ****, people will buy something solely cause of brand loyalty, not quality value.

Did you read the quotes? They were arguing about popularity not quality.

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#162 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Sign of hermits flooding the polls like they did couple years ago

AM-Gamer

PC has more gamers than consoles.  When they catch wind of polls this isn't an uncommon event.

If you count people playing farmville and the sims then yes.

You only have to count the playerbase of a single game--League of Legends.
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#163 jhonMalcovich
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Because sheeps are dieing out. Or grew up. :|

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#164 jhonMalcovich
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Nobody wants to play kid games anymore. Not even kids. Kids want to play GTA and Mass Effect.

 

The only people who wants to play Mario games, are nostalgic adults :|

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#165 bbkkristian
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Nobody wants to play kid games anymore. Not even kids. Kids want to play GTA and Mass Effect.

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Wtf is wrong with our society?
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#166 jhonMalcovich
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[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

Nobody wants to play kid games anymore. Not even kids. Kids want to play GTA and Mass Effect.

bbkkristian

Wtf is wrong with our society?

Too much rap, I guess :(

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#167 Shadowchronicle
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It isn't a surprise to me that mario is losing to something like Skyrim. I mean Mario isn't exactly the best Nintendo series to put up against something like skyrim.
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#168 HarlockJC
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CoD is the best selling FPS franchise, does that make their games good?, RE6 sold almost 5 million does that make it good?, FF13 is one of the best selling FF games, does it make it better than FF4,FF6,FF7 and FF9?

Sales numbers ain't ****, people will buy something solely cause of brand loyalty, not quality value.

Ballroompirate
You kinda jumped in there without reading...We were talking about how popular the game still has are not the quality. But in Mario's case it does not matter because they are high quality game as well.
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#169 mitu123
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

It's not hard to beat Super Mario in a "Best Series" poll since the series has been stale for a better part of a decade.

Nanomage
SMG was the highest rated game last gen and the highest rated of all time. That a stale game?

Nope,that would be GTA 4,98>97.

Lets hope GTA V matches GTA IV!
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#170 Murderstyle75
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Nobody wants to play kid games anymore. Not even kids. Kids want to play GTA and Mass Effect.

 

The only people who wants to play Mario games, are nostalgic adults :|

jhonMalcovich
And sadly as a result, games like TES are easier to play than even Mario. My son beat Oblivion and Fallout when he was 9 years old. Not saying much for the current state of RPG's or today's gamer for that matter.
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#171 jer_1
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I would MUCH rather play another Elder Scrolls game then another mario, surely this didn't surprise anyone.
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#172 Murderstyle75
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I would MUCH rather play another Elder Scrolls game then another mario, surely this didn't surprise anyone.jer_1
A real Elder Scrolls game or the casual piece of shit that's even easier than Mario that its become?
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#173 iHarlequin
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Skyrim was massive, and recent, and more important than any of the recent mario games. Might've been different if SMG2 had come out close to Skyrim, but even then I doubt a Nintendo exclusive game would have the appeal of a multi-platform RPG.

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#174 YoshiYogurt
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I would MUCH rather play another Elder Scrolls game then another mario, surely this didn't surprise anyone.jer_1
It isn't a surprise to me that mario is losing to something like Skyrim. I mean Mario isn't exactly the best Nintendo series to put up against something like skyrim. shadowchronicle
Skyrim is an awful game. How does 30 years of amazing games lose to one piss-poor RPG?
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#175 Murderstyle75
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Skyrim was massive, and recent, and more important than any of the recent mario games. Might've been different if SMG2 had come out close to Skyrim, but even then I doubt a Nintendo exclusive game would have the appeal of a multi-platform RPG.

iHarlequin
Massive doesnt mean crap if the majority of the game is only filler to begin with. After all the tedious errand running with GPS, Fast Travel and leveling system to make it playable by even a 7 year old, what kind of game do you really have? And as for size? Arena and Daggerfall were much bigger. Oblivion and Skyrim are the Diet Coke of The Elder Scrolls.
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#176 trollop_scat
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Skyrim changed a lot of people's opinions about RPGs. I have a few dude-bro friends whose idea of gaming is Madden and CoD. They all really enjoyed Skyrim. Mario is still just for children aged 8-13 and a sad collection of Peter Pans who would do the world a favor by committing mass suicide like they all belonged to the same weird cult of losers.

I look forward to seeing Elder Scrolls and Fallout on opposite sides of the Final Four bracket, if for no other reason than to read the cries of all the edgy little kids running around here screaming how bad Bethesda games are. I know Fallout started off with another developer, and may indeed be getting votes bases soley on the strength of 1 and 2, but 3 and New Vegas were both good games too...

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#177 darius343
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I am going to say it no other game, other than GTA come even close to Skyrim.

The amount of detail and intricacy that went into a game like skyrim.. its astronomical. People complain about glitches, but I dare them to try to make a game so massive, so open and so interactive, and do so flawlessly. Heck I implore you to point me in the direction of a game that can beat TES series .  The little details make the world and the interactions feel so awesome. I found a journal while finding the elder scrolls in blackreach indicating the preils of another party of adventurers that in my first playthrough never noticed, I was stunned at the vastness of blackreach. I found a suicide note next to a dead woman, who committed suicide as a direct result of my actions in the dark brotherhood. I've solved murders, and swayed the tides in a civil war-- Blotted out the sun with a bow belonging to a Deity. Delved deep into the bowels of an ancient dwarven city, and proceeded to steal the "eyes" a gigantic golden statue that consisted of gems bigger than your head. stolen everything of value from bustling capital city city. Assinated emporers, fought for and against demonic influence and corruption in the world. Forged armors and weapons from the bones of dragons and the hearts of demons. I've witnessed a dragon swoop down fromt he sky, grab a Giant's Mammoth and tossed it hundreds of yards a way, only to then witness a battle between Giant and Dragon ensue, I have called down mighty dragons to fight for me, summones demonic menions, did necromancy stopped time, and forught armies of bandits. I've stalked the roads at night as a bloodthirsty vampire, seeking my next unsuspecting prey, and travelled the wilderness on all fours in the form of a werewolf. Uncovered conspiracies, and aided rebellions. The Hundreds (thousands?) of books that are littered across the world are so entertaining, I feel like one could simply read books all day and have a wonderful time.-- And don't get me started on the expansions-- All quality. I have put well over 500 hours into this game through m,y "career" playing it and I am nowhere NEAR finished. And I can play this in BOTH FIRST PERSON MODE AND THIRD PERSON MODE NAME ME ONE GAME THAT DOES ALL THIS, AND ALL

 

THIS IS WITHOUT MODS just in the vanilla game. The mods make the game soo much more awesome, it was as if the engine was costom designed for mods..... OH!! WAIT is it custom made form the ground up with modders in mind.


Granted they simplified it and took a lot of the diversity offered by previous elder scrolls games, but that is an acceptable sacrifice. Fast travel, and Reactive FPCombat was already in Daggerfall, It was a betrayal to Daggerfall fans when Morrowind came and introduced tabletop RPG mechanics and had no fast travel and terrible journal and npc interaction system, I am happy with the new direction.

 

  The level of detail, interactivity, influence a player can have.. If it werent for the numerous glitches and bugs that such a diverse, wide, open, interactive world brings.. I would say this game was perfect. 

 

Come on you elitist whiners"I dare you" to make a game so astoundingly wide and free-range. I implore anyone to find me a game that has achieved such a level of "sandbox" openness as skyrim and done so without bugs.

Only one I know is Rockstar and they suck a PC coding (eg:GTA4) as much as Bethesda sucks at PS3 coding.

 

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#178 Farsendor1
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I haven't played a mario game in 10 years, I haven't owned a nintendo system since 2005. 

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#179 Seabas989
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I am going to say it no other game, other than GTA come even close to Skyrim.

The amount of detail and intricacy that went into a game like skyrim.. its astronomical. People complain about glitches, but I dare them to try to make a game so massive, so open and so interactive, and do so flawlessly. Heck I implore you to point me in the direction of a game that can beat TES series .  The little details make the world and the interactions feel so awesome. I found a journal while finding the elder scrolls in blackreach indicating the preils of another party of adventurers that in my first playthrough never noticed, I was stunned at the vastness of blackreach. I found a suicide note next to a dead woman, who committed suicide as a direct result of my actions in the dark brotherhood. I've solved murders, and swayed the tides in a civil war-- Blotted out the sun with a bow belonging to a Deity. Delved deep into the bowels of an ancient dwarven city, and proceeded to steal the "eyes" a gigantic golden statue that consisted of gems bigger than your head. stolen everything of value from bustling capital city city. Assinated emporers, fought for and against demonic influence and corruption in the world. Forged armors and weapons from the bones of dragons and the hearts of demons. I've witnessed a dragon swoop down fromt he sky, grab a Giant's Mammoth and tossed it hundreds of yards a way, only to then witness a battle between Giant and Dragon ensue, I have called down mighty dragons to fight for me, summones demonic menions, did necromancy stopped time, and forught armies of bandits. I've stalked the roads at night as a bloodthirsty vampire, seeking my next unsuspecting prey, and travelled the wilderness on all fours in the form of a werewolf. Uncovered conspiracies, and aided rebellions. The Hundreds (thousands?) of books that are littered across the world are so entertaining, I feel like one could simply read books all day and have a wonderful time.-- And don't get me started on the expansions-- All quality. I have put well over 500 hours into this game through m,y "career" playing it and I am nowhere NEAR finished. And I can play this in BOTH FIRST PERSON MODE AND THIRD PERSON MODE NAME ME ONE GAME THAT DOES ALL THIS, AND ALL

 

THIS IS WITHOUT MODS just in the vanilla game. The mods make the game soo much more awesome, it was as if the engine was costom designed for mods..... OH!! WAIT is it custom made form the ground up with modders in mind.


Granted they simplified it and took a lot of the diversity offered by previous elder scrolls games, but that is an acceptable sacrifice. Fast travel, and Reactive FPCombat was already in Daggerfall, It was a betrayal to Daggerfall fans when Morrowind came and introduced tabletop RPG mechanics and had no fast travel and terrible journal and npc interaction system, I am happy with the new direction.

 

  The level of detail, interactivity, influence a player can have.. If it werent for the numerous glitches and bugs that such a diverse, wide, open, interactive world brings.. I would say this game was perfect. 

 

Come on you elitist whiners"I dare you" to make a game so astoundingly wide and free-range. I implore anyone to find me a game that has achieved such a level of "sandbox" openness as skyrim and done so without bugs.

Only one I know is Rockstar and they suck a PC coding (eg:GTA4) as much as Bethesda sucks at PS3 coding.

 

darius343

Bethesda sucks at making games and it's not just bugs.

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#180 Dragerdeifrit
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im more suprised that max payne is wiinning against CoD....  O_O  suprised in a good way,   but to be on topic... i love mario.. but TES is TES, its a whole diferent lvl

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#181 DocSanchez
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Lots and lots of bitterness over this. :lol::lol:

Elder Scrolls is current, its now. It's not an over used character most people are getting bored of. People can try to points score just because it's popular just by claiming to be "above it" but the truth it, the series is awesome. It's bugged, but it's worth one million New Super Mario Bros.

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#182 TheDidact
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The fact that Halo and Smash Bros lost in the first round negates any credibility this poll had.
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#183 DocSanchez
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The fact that Halo and Smash Bros lost in the first round negates any credibility this poll had.TheDidact

 

It's a poll. It is by its very nature a popularity contest. These lost.

 

It's okay you are still free to play and enjoy them as before.

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#184 ActicEdge
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The types of people that even vote in these polls hardly represents the playing base of the Mario franchise lol.

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#185 DocSanchez
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The types of people that even vote in these polls hardly represents the playing base of the Mario franchise lol.

ActicEdge

What do you mean?

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#186 cain006
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[QUOTE="Mrmedia01"]

Mario has just started turning into Sonic. A lot of fans still but the majority of people don't care for Mario as mush as before.

Lucianu

Generations was one of the best platformers of this generation, All-Stars Racing Transformed is a fantastic racing game, and Sonic Lost World is looking to be a highly unique, polished experience.

Don't see the problem, unless you're living in 2008.

I didn't like Generations very much. I enjoyed Super Meat Boy, Super Mario Galaxy 1/2, and Donkey Kong Country Returns much better. It was a game deserving of a 7 or so in my opinion.

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#187 Shinobishyguy
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Lots and lots of bitterness over this. :lol::lol:

Elder Scrolls is current, its now. It's not an over used character most people are getting bored of. People can try to points score just because it's popular just by claiming to be "above it" but the truth it, the series is awesome. It's bugged, but it's worth one million New Super Mario Bros.

DocSanchez

Too bad Galaxy shits all over skyrim.

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#188 YoshiYogurt
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I haven't played a mario game in 10 years, I haven't owned a nintendo system since 2005. 

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Sure are proud of missing out..
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#189 Ratchet_Fan8
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wtf is TES?
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#190 m_machine024
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[QUOTE="m_machine024"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"] He not popular on here, his games are still the best selling exclusives on any console. HarlockJC

Oh yeah forgot about Mario Kart and NSMB. I only had Galaxy games in mind for some reasons.

Over 10 million copies have sold of SMG

Ok I'll just shut up then. lol

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#191 BPoole96
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wtf is TES?Ratchet_Fan8
The Elder Scrolls
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#192 scoots9
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It's just because the worst Elder Scrolls game is really popular for some reason.

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#193 DocSanchez
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[QUOTE="DocSanchez"]

Lots and lots of bitterness over this. :lol::lol:

Elder Scrolls is current, its now. It's not an over used character most people are getting bored of. People can try to points score just because it's popular just by claiming to be "above it" but the truth it, the series is awesome. It's bugged, but it's worth one million New Super Mario Bros.

Shinobishyguy

Too bad Galaxy shits all over skyrim.

To you, galaxy shits all over life. Nothing can come close. Guess what cupcake? Not everyone has the same taste as you, as the poll indicates.