Marvel vs Capcom 3 - Jill Valentine already on disc?

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#51 EddieTheHead84
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I want Regina (Dino Crisis) in MvC3!

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#52 campzor
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pretty low..but ah well... jill was alright in mvc2 but nothing special... i would be vastly interested though if there was venom/carnage dlc
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#53 slothboyadvance
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[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] ... Capcom has full right to do as it pleases... Either buy it or don't buy it.. With out the DLC the reviewers thought this game was already solid to begin with.. The DLC was just a optional bonus you didn't need to get.. sSubZerOo

...I know.

We're not here to argue what Capcom can and cannot do, it's about what they should do. You paid $60 for a game, it's not too much to ask from Capcom to include all of your favourite characters instead of leaving you out in the cold.

:|I would agree if it were not for the fact they shipped 36 CHARACTERS... It sounds like your a fanboy that is upset not to see their favorite character in it.. Its pointless, the only thing coming close to a real complaint would be if the game shipped with few characters..

Granted, if they had included it as an expansion with various different characters, levels, skins etc it have at least been worth the price. But charging money for one sole character, or level, or skin?

Where does it say that? Furthermore who says you need to get it? The game is considered complete, the only thing extra now is all gravy that doesn't need to be bought, except to the peopel whor eally like it..

Please. You're not going to get very far in business if you're going to disgruntle your own fanbase.

That makes alot of sense when DLC's are increasing, and so are their sales... If this is what it takes to give game support after its release I am all for it... If the game allows me to play 50 hours or more at least and than adds even MORE value with a minscule charge.. I am all for it.. But yet again no one is stopping you from not buying it.. You guys think you have been shorted.. But yet again this rationale for this game is ridiculous..

Why are you trying so hard to defend Capcom?

I'm fine with paying for DLC, but the fact is: Capcom is charging us extra to use data that's already on the disc. How do you not see the problem with that? By accepting this as it is, you're basically giving developers the 'ok' to lock out content.

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#54 jeezers
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and watch everyone complaining buy the DLC on day one.LP4EVA2005
dude thats why theyre complaining, thats why they are mad, capcom knows that hardcore fans of the series want the complete roster, thats why im pissed lol 5 bucks a character... god by the time all the dlc is out this game is gonna cost me 140 bucks.... and i dont wanna spend that... "but i know i sadly will if its availiable, **** my life
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#55 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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Yeah I'll just be waiting until this game goes super cheap, like super street fighter 4 has done. That game is only £12 in various places now.

Yeah, I'm definitely waiting for the final product next year.

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Or this. Super MVC3: What we left out to screw you over edition.

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#56 Sp4rtan_3
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More reason why MVC3 is a ripoff.
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#57 PSP107
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and watch everyone complaining buy the DLC on day one.LP4EVA2005
lol
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#58 Solid_Tango
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Thats why i only bought one capcom game this gen ( dmc 4 and i regreat it the next day), capcom not just went greedy but their games arent even as good.
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#59 LegatoSkyheart
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Why are you trying so hard to defend Capcom?

I'm fine with paying for DLC, but the fact is: Capcom is charging us extra to use data that's already on the disc. How do you not see the problem with that? By accepting this as it is, you're basically giving developers the 'ok' to lock out content.

slothboyadvance

Because Capcom really didn't short change us at all.

36 Characters. That's the Same as Super Street Fighter IV, if you're not satisfied with just that then tough luck.

Who cares if there's extra characters on the disc, Would you rather have an unfinish Characters in the roster or wait till it's finished?

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#60 Lilyungblood08
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does anyone even want shuma? i hted him in 2 i know im only interested in jill and hopefully new people like iron fist or blade

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#61 Gamingcucumber
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Why aren't developers learning from Rockstar? If you want to make a DLC make it something different and something that really ups the gaming experience such as The Ballad of Gay Tony, instead Capcom, Activision etc are just adding trivial things for a huge price tag.
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#62 RandoIph
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The only game they didn't do this with was DMC4, the one game they made this gen that actually NEEDED some DLC.
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#63 Merex760
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This is common practice for a lot of developers now. I fail to see how this is a surprise to anyone. Sure, it's messed up, and we can thank Halo and Call of Duty map packs for this.
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#64 lbjkurono23
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This is common practice for a lot of developers now. I fail to see how this is a surprise to anyone. Sure, it's messed up, and we can thank Halo and Call of Duty map packs for this.Merex760
Were those on the disc already?
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#65 savebattery
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Who cares if there's extra characters on the disc, Would you rather have an unfinish Characters in the roster or wait till it's finished?LegatoSkyheart
I would rather see them not charge for extra characters in fighting games, because that completely destroys any semblance of competitive balance.
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#66 lbjkurono23
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Because Capcom really didn't short change us at all.

36 Characters. That's the Same as Super Street Fighter IV, if you're not satisfied with just that then tough luck.

Who cares if there's extra characters on the disc, Would you rather have an unfinish Characters in the roster or wait till it's finished?

LegatoSkyheart

Are you really that naive?

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#67 OhSnapitz
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[QUOTE="slothboyadvance"]

Why are you trying so hard to defend Capcom?

I'm fine with paying for DLC, but the fact is: Capcom is charging us extra to use data that's already on the disc. How do you not see the problem with that? By accepting this as it is, you're basically giving developers the 'ok' to lock out content.

LegatoSkyheart

Because Capcom really didn't short change us at all.

36 Characters. That's the Same as Super Street Fighter IV, if you're not satisfied with just that then tough luck.

Who cares if there's extra characters on the disc, Would you rather have an unfinish Characters in the roster or wait till it's finished?

Even though I don't agree with Capcom's tactics I agree with your post. 36 characters is a pretty good number and it'll take some time to master all of them. And if some don't like it, don't purchase the content. Bottom line.. We all would like to see 100 characters with this game, but realistically that's not going to happen. And there are surely omissions that we'd all like to see (personally I'd rather see a return of venom instead of spiderman). Either way I'll still get 100+ hours out of this game regardless of who they include.
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#68 caseypayne69
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No remember Versus on RE5 for $4.99? Came out same day and was less than a Mb I think.
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#69 EPaul
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Do you guys also know that some of the DLC Costumes is also on disc and Shuma Gorath is also on disc

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#70 PSP107
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="slothboyadvance"]

Why are you trying so hard to defend Capcom?

I'm fine with paying for DLC, but the fact is: Capcom is charging us extra to use data that's already on the disc. How do you not see the problem with that? By accepting this as it is, you're basically giving developers the 'ok' to lock out content.

Because Capcom really didn't short change us at all.

36 Characters. That's the Same as Super Street Fighter IV, if you're not satisfied with just that then tough luck.

Who cares if there's extra characters on the disc, Would you rather have an unfinish Characters in the roster or wait till it's finished?

I think the argument is that Capcom probally held back on certain characters.
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#71 Jolt_counter119
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[QUOTE="slothboyadvance"]

Why are you trying so hard to defend Capcom?

I'm fine with paying for DLC, but the fact is: Capcom is charging us extra to use data that's already on the disc. How do you not see the problem with that? By accepting this as it is, you're basically giving developers the 'ok' to lock out content.

LegatoSkyheart

Because Capcom really didn't short change us at all.

36 Characters. That's the Same as Super Street Fighter IV, if you're not satisfied with just that then tough luck.

Who cares if there's extra characters on the disc, Would you rather have an unfinish Characters in the roster or wait till it's finished?

Sequels usually have more characters than the previous installment, not less. And id forgive them because MvC2 had too many characters but they can atleast have the courtesy to keep their franchises stars in favor of pieces of trash like modok.

Imagine Nintendo removed Star Fox, Captain Falcon, and Link and instead added a goomba, Birdo, and shy guy. I bet all the Nintendo fans would be just ecstatic.

EDIT: kind of went off topic with this one but still the dlc kind of defeats the purpose of keeping competitive play balanced and why have the character on disc but not include them. Capcom could have easily just let them squeeze into the roster then add dlc later but no, they care about $$$$$$$$ more than their actual fanbase.

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#72 I-Doomzday-I
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She's not even closed to finish if you actually bothered to read the article..

Seriously, why the f*** do people link articles and not even bother reading them? One of these days I'm going to grab the most random link and post it on SW under a different title. You'll all just take my word for the article without even reading it yourself.

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#73 I-Doomzday-I
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="slothboyadvance"]

Why are you trying so hard to defend Capcom?

I'm fine with paying for DLC, but the fact is: Capcom is charging us extra to use data that's already on the disc. How do you not see the problem with that? By accepting this as it is, you're basically giving developers the 'ok' to lock out content.

Jolt_counter119

Because Capcom really didn't short change us at all.

36 Characters. That's the Same as Super Street Fighter IV, if you're not satisfied with just that then tough luck.

Who cares if there's extra characters on the disc, Would you rather have an unfinish Characters in the roster or wait till it's finished?

Sequels usually have more characters than the previous installment, not less. And id forgive them because MvC2 had too many characters but they can atleast have the courtesy to keep their franchises stars in favor of pieces of trash like modok.

Imagine Nintendo removed Star Fox, Captain Falcon, and Link and instead added a goomba, Birdo, and shy guy. I bet all the Nintendo fans would be just ecstatic.

EDIT: kind of went off topic with this one but still the dlc kind of defeats the purpose of keeping competitive play balanced and why have the character on disc but not include them. Capcom could have easily just let them squeeze into the roster then add dlc later but no, they care about $$$$$$$$ more than their actual fanbase.

Difference is Smash is garbage while Versus games are actually worth playing..

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#74 CheveLoco
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i remember back in the day Mortal Kombat had 7 characters

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#75 Wiimotefan
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i remember back in the day Mortal Kombat had 7 characters

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And they all played exactly the same besides their special moves.... which in some cases where exactly the same with a different animation. :lol:

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#76 tutt3r
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the first game, that I love so much I am fine with the dlc

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#77 MondeEdlu
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common practice.

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#78 lamprey263
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I want my Jill, "the Master of Unlocking"
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#79 slothboyadvance
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Because Capcom really didn't short change us at all.

36 Characters. That's the Same as Super Street Fighter IV, if you're not satisfied with just that then tough luck.

Who cares if there's extra characters on the disc, Would you rather have an unfinish Characters in the roster or wait till it's finished?

lbjkurono23

Are you really that naive?

Apparently.

Just watch, the download for Shuma and Jill will a few MB, if that. Just like Street Fighter 4's costumes and Resident Evil 5's multiplayer mode.

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#80 slothboyadvance
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[QUOTE="Jolt_counter119"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Because Capcom really didn't short change us at all.

36 Characters. That's the Same as Super Street Fighter IV, if you're not satisfied with just that then tough luck.

Who cares if there's extra characters on the disc, Would you rather have an unfinish Characters in the roster or wait till it's finished?

I-Doomzday-I

Sequels usually have more characters than the previous installment, not less. And id forgive them because MvC2 had too many characters but they can atleast have the courtesy to keep their franchises stars in favor of pieces of trash like modok.

Imagine Nintendo removed Star Fox, Captain Falcon, and Link and instead added a goomba, Birdo, and shy guy. I bet all the Nintendo fans would be just ecstatic.

EDIT: kind of went off topic with this one but still the dlc kind of defeats the purpose of keeping competitive play balanced and why have the character on disc but not include them. Capcom could have easily just let them squeeze into the roster then add dlc later but no, they care about $$$$$$$$ more than their actual fanbase.

Difference is Smash is garbage while Versus games are actually worth playing..

Personal preference has nothing to do with the argument.

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Sequels usually have more characters than the previous installment, not less. And id forgive them because MvC2 had too many characters but they can atleast have the courtesy to keep their franchises stars in favor of pieces of trash like modok.

Imagine Nintendo removed Star Fox, Captain Falcon, and Link and instead added a goomba, Birdo, and shy guy. I bet all the Nintendo fans would be just ecstatic.

EDIT: kind of went off topic with this one but still the dlc kind of defeats the purpose of keeping competitive play balanced and why have the character on disc but not include them. Capcom could have easily just let them squeeze into the roster then add dlc later but no, they care about $$$$$$$$ more than their actual fanbase.

Jolt_counter119

You probably haven't played the game, but modok is actually a character with enough gameplay distinctions to justify itself as part of the game.

And people probably didn't notice that jill and shuma gorath are free for limited edition buyers. That means people who get them will have already paid 10 dollars above the people with regular editions, the same price as both characters together as dlc. Meaning capcom wanted as much people buying the limited edition as possible, since you get even more stuff on top of the regular edition that way.

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#82 LastRambo341
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LOL @ the reactions here Didn't you keep in mind that its just $ 10???? Its cheap! Also, not only its optional, but the DLC are there because they couldn't put them in the disc due to budget and time constraints
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#83 Kingpin0114
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LOL @ the reactions here Didn't you keep in mind that its just $ 10???? Its cheap! Also, not only its optional, but the DLC are there because they couldn't put them in the disc due to budget and time constraintsLastRambo341

Yea these reactions are kinda funny. People are acting like this is the first time this has happened.

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#84 deactivated-61cf0c4baf12e
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]You know what I meant. Microsoft is responsible for making DLC *robbery* a common thing in the gaming world.Espada12

Microsoft didn't make it common, they introduced it (there's a difference). The reason it is common it's because the consumer reacted positively (buying DLC) and the developers found a good way of increasing profits in it. So the three components of this industry (the consumer, the console makers and the developers) are happy. Seems like it was a good idea.

Actually microsoft did make it common. Map packs, avatars and such.. not only that buy the force all devs to charge for any content on live.

You don't make something common by offering it. You make it common by selling lots of it. And you can't sell anything if there's no buyer. So the buyer is actually the one that allows this to happen.

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#85 Timstuff
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That's lame. Crap like this is why I will not be buying this game at full price. If I'm going to pay $60 for a game, I'd better be getting the whole thing. If I have to spend $30 to unlock everything I'll wait until the disc is $30.

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#86 coltsfan4ever
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The only way people can quell this dlc rip off some companies pull is to not buy the said dlc. But that aint gona happen and these companies know it. So they will only continue to get worse with this crap. Alot of people feel they have to have the newest CoD map packs,extra characters,new cars,etc... Vote with your wallets people!

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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]LOL @ the reactions here Didn't you keep in mind that its just $ 10???? Its cheap! Also, not only its optional, but the DLC are there because they couldn't put them in the disc due to budget and time constraints

10 dollars + 10 more dollars for more DLC + 10 more dollars for more DLC +original price at 60 = 90 dollars for one game. Why do some people just bend over backwards to pay for DLC?
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#88 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="LastRambo341"]LOL @ the reactions here Didn't you keep in mind that its just $ 10???? Its cheap! Also, not only its optional, but the DLC are there because they couldn't put them in the disc due to budget and time constraints

10 dollars + 10 more dollars for more DLC + 10 more dollars for more DLC +original price at 60 = 90 dollars for one game. Why do some people just bend over backwards to pay for DLC?

Its OPTIONAL Again, they couldn't put the content in the disc because of budget, time and license constraints. An example that covers that Jill and Shuma ARE in incomplete in the disc, that is why Capcom delayed them and said that it has technical issues, they were speaking the truth. DLC is also for hope that your favorite characters can still return despite the time they had during development.
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#89 LastRambo341
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That's lame. Crap like this is why I will not be buying this game at full price. If I'm going to pay $60 for a game, I'd better be getting the whole thing. If I have to spend $30 to unlock everything I'll wait until the disc is $30.

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You're penalizing yourself, buddy.
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#90 Locutus_Picard
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This is why I won't EVER buy a single thing from crapcom anymore.
You don't even get the full game when buying the game. The disc is yours but they still control the content you can access on it.
Crapcom is only getting a big middle finger from me. It's a shame really, the game actually looked good but stuff like this puts me off.

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#91 LastRambo341
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This is why I won't EVER buy a single thing from crapcom anymore.
You don't even get the full game when buying the game. The disc is yours but they still control the content you can access on it.
Crapcom is only getting a big middle finger from me. It's a shame really, the game actually looked good but stuff like this puts me off.

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Even though there is a reasonable explanation??

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#92 Locutus_Picard
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While they can release a simple update to fix her and not charge for it? Yeah...I'll believe it when I see it.

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#93 LastRambo341
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While they can release a simple update to fix her and not charge for it? Yeah...I'll believe it when I see it.

Locutus_Picard
You really think its easier said than done? You can't do just a simple update and call it a day Gaming is an expensive hobby, deal with it. And its just $5 for each character, for God's sake, that is nothing.
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#94 Locutus_Picard
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[QUOTE="Locutus_Picard"]

While they can release a simple update to fix her and not charge for it? Yeah...I'll believe it when I see it.

LastRambo341

You really think its easier said than done? You can't do just a simple update and call it a day Gaming is an expensive hobby, deal with it. And its just $5 for each character, for God's sake, that is nothing.

It's the mentality like yours that whored out the gaming industry for the sake of maximizing profits.

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#95 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="Locutus_Picard"]

While they can release a simple update to fix her and not charge for it? Yeah...I'll believe it when I see it.

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You really think its easier said than done? You can't do just a simple update and call it a day Gaming is an expensive hobby, deal with it. And its just $5 for each character, for God's sake, that is nothing.

It's the mentality like yours that whored out the gaming industry for the sake of maximizing profits.

"Whore" isn't a verb

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#96 DarkerKamikaze
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[QUOTE="Locutus_Picard"]

While they can release a simple update to fix her and not charge for it? Yeah...I'll believe it when I see it.

LastRambo341

You really think its easier said than done? You can't do just a simple update and call it a day Gaming is an expensive hobby, deal with it. And its just $5 for each character, for God's sake, that is nothing.

$5 for each character? Really now? So 3 characters would be $15 vs 5 maps for $15, if that's the case MvC3 DLC is now more of a ripoff than Black Ops :lol:. *Probably have to buy the alt costumes for these characters as well.:twisted:*

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#97 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="Locutus_Picard"]

While they can release a simple update to fix her and not charge for it? Yeah...I'll believe it when I see it.

DarkerKamikaze

You really think its easier said than done? You can't do just a simple update and call it a day Gaming is an expensive hobby, deal with it. And its just $5 for each character, for God's sake, that is nothing.

$5 for each character? Really now? So 3 characters would be $15 vs 5 maps for $15, if that's the case MvC3 DLC is now more of a ripoff than Black Ops :lol:. *Probably have to buy the alt costumes for these characters as well.:twisted:*

Here is the thing...You don't HAVE to buy them so why complain??? Same with the COD map packs, I didn't buy the Mw2 map packs because I didn't find worth the money, BO seems much more reasonable. Didn't know that the financial crisis hit everyone hard here
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#98 DarkerKamikaze
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[QUOTE="DarkerKamikaze"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"] You really think its easier said than done? You can't do just a simple update and call it a day Gaming is an expensive hobby, deal with it. And its just $5 for each character, for God's sake, that is nothing.LastRambo341

$5 for each character? Really now? So 3 characters would be $15 vs 5 maps for $15, if that's the case MvC3 DLC is now more of a ripoff than Black Ops :lol:. *Probably have to buy the alt costumes for these characters as well.:twisted:*

Here is the thing...You don't HAVE to buy them so why complain??? Same with the COD map packs, I didn't buy the Mw2 map packs because I didn't find worth the money, BO seems much more reasonable. Didn't know that the financial crisis hit everyone hard here

You HAVE to buy them to have a complete game, when you're missing characters your game is incomplete. I'm fine with them selling characters, but not at some outrageous price like they already do with alt costumes.

I'd be willing to pay $5 for for maybe 5+ characters, not $5 for one single character.

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#99 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="DarkerKamikaze"]

$5 for each character? Really now? So 3 characters would be $15 vs 5 maps for $15, if that's the case MvC3 DLC is now more of a ripoff than Black Ops :lol:. *Probably have to buy the alt costumes for these characters as well.:twisted:*

DarkerKamikaze

Here is the thing...You don't HAVE to buy them so why complain??? Same with the COD map packs, I didn't buy the Mw2 map packs because I didn't find worth the money, BO seems much more reasonable. Didn't know that the financial crisis hit everyone hard here

You HAVE to buy them to have a complete game, when you're missing characters your game is incomplete. I'm fine with them selling characters, but not at some outrageous price like they already do with alt costumes.

I'd be willing to pay $5 for for maybe 5+ characters, not $5 for one single character.

Well, that is your problem then, right? $5 per character is ok for me. Complaining will not encourage them to lower their prices, maybe they will decrease the price after a LONG time, but I will not penalize myself.
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[QUOTE="Merex760"]This is common practice for a lot of developers now. I fail to see how this is a surprise to anyone. Sure, it's messed up, and we can thank Halo and Call of Duty map packs for this.lbjkurono23
Were those on the disc already?

I dont believe they were his thanking cod and halo for that is much like thanking Microsoft which master shake did earlier it makes no sense.