Marvel vs Capcom 3 - Jill Valentine already on disc?

[QUOTE="CheveLoco"]

i remember back in the day Mortal Kombat had 7 characters

And they all played exactly the same besides their special moves.... which in some cases where exactly the same with a different animation. :lol:

[QUOTE="IronBass"]Common practice of Capcom. Not that it would have make any difference if they had make her a DL character. They wanted to charge for her, it's their right.Messiahbolical-

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"][QUOTE="IronBass"]Common practice of Capcom. Not that it would have make any difference if they had make her a DL character. They wanted to charge for her, it's their right.berzerk0912

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

That's lame. Crap like this is why I will not be buying this game at full price. If I'm going to pay $60 for a game, I'd better be getting the whole thing. If I have to spend $30 to unlock everything I'll wait until the disc is $30.

LastRambo341

Crapcom is addicted to selling keys for on-disc content. Between this and Bionic Commando requiring you to stay connected to the internet, I don't really see any reason to buy or play any of Capcom's games in the near future. They dumbed down the gameplay in Marvel vs. Capcom 3, and even though it came out nearly 2 years after Street Fighter IV, the graphics have gotten worse. I think for now, I'll just stick to playing Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 Accurate Remix on my Dreamcast. Back in those days, you unlocked characters by beating the game. These days, you unlock them by inputting your credit card number.

Where did you go wrong, Capcom? This generation you gave us Lost Planet, Mega-Man 9, and Street Fighter IV! But then, you had to go shove out Lost Planet 2, the crappy Bionic Commando reboot, horrible DRM on Bionic Commando Rearmed 2, the weaksauce Mega-Man 10, and Resident Evil 5 and "DMC" which barely even resemble their forebearers. How the mighty have indeed fallen.

Though Crapcom is raking in the cash with petty milking tactics like this, so they're content with less content (pun intended :P).
Their fanbase doesn't really matter to them anymore, they became this semi-casual developer/publisher that only cares about the money they get.
This will hurt them in the long run. Or not and we will get even more extreme cases of DLC.

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]

That's lame. Crap like this is why I will not be buying this game at full price. If I'm going to pay $60 for a game, I'd better be getting the whole thing. If I have to spend $30 to unlock everything I'll wait until the disc is $30.

Timstuff

[QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="LastRambo341"] You're penalizing yourself, buddy.LastRambo341

Crapcom is addicted to selling keys for on-disc content. Between this and Bionic Commando requiring you to stay connected to the internet, I don't really see any reason to buy or play any of Capcom's games in the near future. They dumbed down the gameplay in Marvel vs. Capcom 3, and even though it came out nearly 2 years after Street Fighter IV, the graphics have gotten worse. I think for now, I'll just stick to playing Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 Accurate Remix on my Dreamcast. Back in those days, you unlocked characters by beating the game. These days, you unlock them by inputting your credit card number.

Where did you go wrong, Capcom? This generation you gave us Lost Planet, Mega-Man 9, and Street Fighter IV! But then, you had to go shove out Lost Planet 2, the crappy Bionic Commando reboot, horrible DRM on Bionic Commando Rearmed 2, the weaksauce Mega-Man 10, and Resident Evil 5 and "DMC" which barely even resemble their forebearers. How the mighty have indeed fallen.

Timstuff

* MVC3 still requires a learning curve, did you play it? Graphics don't matter especially since SSF4 and MVC3 use two completely different art*****, the game looks phenomenal in person. You'll penalize yourself playing the broken mess known as MVC2. Regarding the unlocking, in MvC2, 99% of the sprites were RE-USED and pasted into the game. So it was easier. In MVC3, every 3D model is created from scratch so appreciate the effort and work, not to mention the budget and time constraints.

* Lost Planet 2 was decent. Bionic Commando 1 got great reviews. BC2 was true of what you said. MEgaman 10 was amazing especially it went 8bit that everyone wanted .RE5 got great reviews and DMC isn't released .Please don't give this drama on the all-mighty and blablabla

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="Timstuff"] Why? Because I'll save money by playing the game later than most other people? I don't see how saving money can ever be a penalty. I will give Capcom less of my money and get the same content, therefore it is Capcom who is being penalized. They can either get my money sooner or later, and they chose later because they knew they could milk extra cash out of the hardcore fans. In fact, Capcom will really only be getting money for the DLC from me, since I'll probably end up buying the game used to get it at the cheapest possible price. I would have gladly paid $60 for the game straight to Capcom if it would get me all the content that's on the disc, but that's not how they wanted to play, so I will be buying the disc second-hand and Capcom will get no money from me except what it costs for me to unlock all the characters. Maybe if they cut me a better deal, I wouldn't be resorting to buying the game used.Locutus_Picard

A million dollars!

I'm just stating what I think is true and reasonable

[QUOTE="Locutus_Picard"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"] Its a penalty because you're missing out on one of the best games of this year. Capcom couldn't put EVERYTHING into the disc due to budget and time constraints. If you looked at the article, Shuma and Jill are INCOMPLETE, that is why Capcom delayed the availability of those characters.LastRambo341

A million dollars!

I'm just stating what I think is true and reasonable

Its capcom, so i`m not surprised, the funny part is the fanboys seem to defend this like its a great idea

Its capcom, so i`m not surprised, the funny part is the fanboys seem to defend this like its a great idea

OmegaPillow

[QUOTE="OmegaPillow"]

Its capcom, so i`m not surprised, the funny part is the fanboys seem to defend this like its a great idea

LastRambo341

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="OmegaPillow"]

Its capcom, so i`m not surprised, the funny part is the fanboys seem to defend this like its a great idea

OmegaPillow

[QUOTE="OmegaPillow"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"] Lol, so even though they still provide a true and reasonable explanation, they're still called "fanboys"?? Ok if you say so, I don't find it as a negative thing anywaysLastRambo341

Next thing you know, you'll be charged to play videogames online!

Ohwaitaminute

[QUOTE="CheveLoco"]

i remember back in the day Mortal Kombat had 7 characters

Wiimotefan

And they all played exactly the same besides their special moves.... which in some cases where exactly the same with a different animation. :lol:

She doesnt look that incomplete to me

She doesnt look that incomplete to me

EPaul

She isn't balanced and is missing alot of audio files.

[QUOTE="EPaul"]

She doesnt look that incomplete to me

Espada12

She isn't balanced and is missing alot of audio files.

I Know but they could of finished her if they wanted to and Shuma Gorath is basically complete

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="EPaul"]

She doesnt look that incomplete to me

EPaul

She isn't balanced and is missing alot of audio files.

I Know but they could of finished her if they wanted to and Shuma Gorath is basically complete

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="EPaul"]

She doesnt look that incomplete to me

EPaul

She isn't balanced and is missing alot of audio files.

I Know but they could of finished her if they wanted to and Shuma Gorath is basically complete

Yeah I suppose, they would have needed to delay the game though. Certification takes quite a while from what I heard.

i expect next gen (or maybe even the end of this gen) to look something like this

$60 for the game

dlc to be released on day 1 :
$10 story mode
$10 versus mode
$5 for extra costumes
$5-$10 for extra levels/missions

and lets not forget the extra $1-$10 for extra characters, music, weapons etc.

I seriously expect companies to ramp up the milking because people keep buying it.

Wait, gamers are expected to pay more becaue Capcom failed and didnt finish the characters on time. No if they weren't milking it they'd just patch the characters in for free.

i expect next gen (or maybe even the end of this gen) to look something like this

$60 for the game

dlc to be released on day 1 :
$10 story mode
$10 versus mode
$5 for extra costumes
$5-$10 for extra levels/missions

and lets not forget the extra $1-$10 for extra characters, music, weapons etc.

I seriously expect companies to ramp up the milking because people keep buying it.

z4twenny

so in other words....a $35 Game.

[QUOTE="EPaul"]

She doesnt look that incomplete to me

Espada12

She isn't balanced and is missing alot of audio files.

I don't know if you're on Capcom side on this, but for those who are... they should realize this is still shaddy business. SHE WAS ON THE DISC AND TAKEN OUT (or left unfinished)

Capcom needs to stop this BS, seriously.

She doesnt look that incomplete to me

EPaul

Wow shes fast! :shock:

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="EPaul"]

She doesnt look that incomplete to me

GreenGoblin2099

She isn't balanced and is missing alot of audio files.

I don't know if you're on Capcom side on this, but for those who are... they should realize this is still shaddy business. SHE WAS ON THE DISC AND TAKEN OUT (or left unfinished)

Capcom needs to stop this BS, seriously.

[QUOTE="z4twenny"]

i expect next gen (or maybe even the end of this gen) to look something like this

$60 for the game

dlc to be released on day 1 :
$10 story mode
$10 versus mode
$5 for extra costumes
$5-$10 for extra levels/missions

and lets not forget the extra $1-$10 for extra characters, music, weapons etc.

I seriously expect companies to ramp up the milking because people keep buying it.

LegatoSkyheart

so in other words....a $35 Game.

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="z4twenny"]

i expect next gen (or maybe even the end of this gen) to look something like this

$60 for the game

dlc to be released on day 1 :
$10 story mode
$10 versus mode
$5 for extra costumes
$5-$10 for extra levels/missions

and lets not forget the extra $1-$10 for extra characters, music, weapons etc.

I seriously expect companies to ramp up the milking because people keep buying it.

spookykid143

so in other words....a $35 Game.

oh I must have skipped over that.

i expect next gen (or maybe even the end of this gen) to look something like this

$60 for the game

dlc to be released on day 1 :
$10 story mode
$10 versus mode
$5 for extra costumes
$5-$10 for extra levels/missions

and lets not forget the extra $1-$10 for extra characters, music, weapons etc.

I seriously expect companies to ramp up the milking because people keep buying it.z4twenny

That's lame. Crap like this is why I will not be buying this game at full price. If I'm going to pay $60 for a game, I'd better be getting the whole thing. If I have to spend $30 to unlock everything I'll wait until the disc is $30.

i dont support Geohot. but i hope capcom its the next company on his "piss off" list lol..

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="EPaul"]

She doesnt look that incomplete to me

GreenGoblin2099

She isn't balanced and is missing alot of audio files.

I don't know if you're on Capcom side on this, but for those who are... they should realize this is still shaddy business. SHE WAS ON THE DISC AND TAKEN OUT (or left unfinished)

Capcom needs to stop this BS, seriously.

Data was left in because of sony's policy with data on PSN. I believe I read somewhere that MS covers it but sony doesn't. Ark sys works did the same thing, but I suppose BB is not big enough of a game for people to think about it. TBH I think it sucks, I would have rather all the stuff on the disk and capcom's terrible handling of DLC has been really annoying. In this particular case I'm not too mad about it. I understand why it had to be done for this instance. But for stuff like RE5's versus mode? That was just awful and in very poor taste by capcom.

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

She isn't balanced and is missing alot of audio files.

Espada12

I don't know if you're on Capcom side on this, but for those who are... they should realize this is still shaddy business. SHE WAS ON THE DISC AND TAKEN OUT (or left unfinished)

Capcom needs to stop this BS, seriously.

Data was left in because of sony's policy with data on PSN. I believe I read somewhere that MS covers it but sony doesn't. Ark sys works did the same thing, but I suppose BB is not big enough of a game for people to think about it. TBH I think it sucks, I would have rather all the stuff on the disk and capcom's terrible handling of DLC has been really annoying. In this particular case I'm not too mad about it. I understand why it had to be done for this instance. But for stuff like RE5's versus mode? That was just awful and in very poor taste by capcom.

The real problem here isn't data being left on the disk so much as a company releasing an unfinished product and then charging extra when the product is finally complete. Buying MVC 3 is like paying full price for a beta and then still being expected to pay $30 for the game when it is finished.

Capcom is not alone here, but this practice is the worst thing about gaming this gen.

The real problem here isn't data being left on the disk so much as a company releasing an unfinished product and then charging extra when the product is finally complete. Buying MVC 3 is like paying full price for a beta and then still being expected to pay $30 for the game when it is finished.

Capcom is not alone here, but this practice is the worst thing about gaming this gen.

PurpleMan5000

[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"]

The real problem here isn't data being left on the disk so much as a company releasing an unfinished product and then charging extra when the product is finally complete. Buying MVC 3 is like paying full price for a beta and then still being expected to pay $30 for the game when it is finished.

Capcom is not alone here, but this practice is the worst thing about gaming this gen.

LastRambo341

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"]

The real problem here isn't data being left on the disk so much as a company releasing an unfinished product and then charging extra when the product is finally complete. Buying MVC 3 is like paying full price for a beta and then still being expected to pay $30 for the game when it is finished.

Capcom is not alone here, but this practice is the worst thing about gaming this gen.

Locutus_Picard

So...basically..what? Summary, pleaseLastRambo341

[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"]

The real problem here isn't data being left on the disk so much as a company releasing an unfinished product and then charging extra when the product is finally complete. Buying MVC 3 is like paying full price for a beta and then still being expected to pay $30 for the game when it is finished.

Capcom is not alone here, but this practice is the worst thing about gaming this gen.

LastRambo341

It's not a free bonus because Special edition owners paid more.

What budget constraints?Locutus_Picard

The real problem here isn't data being left on the disk so much as a company releasing an unfinished product and then charging extra when the product is finally complete. Buying MVC 3 is like paying full price for a beta and then still being expected to pay $30 for the game when it is finished.

Capcom is not alone here, but this practice is the worst thing about gaming this gen.

PurpleMan5000

Please do tell us all here how MvC3 is a unfinished product? 36 characters, a bunch of stages... In fact the only thing that could be argued beng light on is game modes.. Something NO one talks about.. instead they cry about characters that the game didn't release with, and is not necessary in ever getting.. Maybe if the game lacked characters compared to other fighters of the gen there would be some merit.. But its in fact the EXACT opposite, it outnumbers the majority of fighters out there in the genre.. Hell I wills ay it has more MEANINGFUL characters in this game than the clones and useless characters that were in MvC2.

The game is unfinished because they are still working on additional characters. This game will have a strong online focus and there is no guarantee that the downloadable characters won't be overpowered to the point of ruining online play for those who don't purchase the additional characters.PurpleMan5000

Then all games are unfinished than when they released because they have dlcs planned in the future.. This just shows how big of fail your logic is.. The game as it stands is complete...... These are additional things into the future that you do not have to get, the game is fine as it stands with out them... And your claim at the end remains to be seen.