MASS EFFECT = 12-15 HOURS 0.o

SNES/Genesis and N64/PS eras >>>>>>>>>>>> PS2/GC/Xbox and PS3/360/Wii eras

they focus too much on graphics then lasting playability these days.

I've seen Super Metroid beaten in under a half-hour. It isn't a half-hour long game.

If you're going to speed-run and trim out everything good about the game, then you can do that, but that's not representative of the game's length on the average first playthrough. As others have mentioned, Oblivion isn't that long if you only do the main quest, but there's so much else to do that only doing the main quest would be stupid.

sonicmj1

That reminds me. I have accedentally beaten Super Mario World in 20 minutes before. :lol:

I started a new file and played through the first world when I got to the first level, second world I just went ahead and used the key shortcuts and found myself at Bowser's castle in fifteen minutes. I was going to play the whole game through again but after that I just dropped the controller and left the room laughing.

[QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

I've seen Super Metroid beaten in under a half-hour. It isn't a half-hour long game.

If you're going to speed-run and trim out everything good about the game, then you can do that, but that's not representative of the game's length on the average first playthrough. As others have mentioned, Oblivion isn't that long if you only do the main quest, but there's so much else to do that only doing the main quest would be stupid.

Broc_Samson

That reminds me. I have accedentally beaten Super Mario World in 20 minutes before. :lol:

I started a new file and played through the first world when I got to the first level, second world I just went ahead and used the key shortcuts and found myself at Bowser's castle in fifteen minutes. I was going to play the whole game through again but after that I just dropped the controller and left the room laughing.

I think the record for Super Mario World is 12 minutes or something, using exactly that method. But nobody is actually going to beat the game that way on their first try.

Ya... I guess Super Mario 64 didn't have any content and was therefore a crappy game, cuz I seen a vid of some fool blow through the game in a few min. So wow... what a crappy game, and this makes MASS EFFECT crap too.... so glad you posted this TC, now I can save myself $60.... /sighVeterngamer

I could do that too if i kept editing a video everytime i made a mistake, those SM64 videos are fake. But anyway a RPG especially this gen should be much longer.

[QUOTE="Broc_Samson"][QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

I've seen Super Metroid beaten in under a half-hour. It isn't a half-hour long game.

If you're going to speed-run and trim out everything good about the game, then you can do that, but that's not representative of the game's length on the average first playthrough. As others have mentioned, Oblivion isn't that long if you only do the main quest, but there's so much else to do that only doing the main quest would be stupid.

sonicmj1

That reminds me. I have accedentally beaten Super Mario World in 20 minutes before. :lol:

I started a new file and played through the first world when I got to the first level, second world I just went ahead and used the key shortcuts and found myself at Bowser's castle in fifteen minutes. I was going to play the whole game through again but after that I just dropped the controller and left the room laughing.

I think the record for Super Mario World is 12 minutes or something, using exactly that method. But nobody is actually going to beat the game that way on their first try.

Yeah that would take the best gamer in the Universe. I remember watching the video where someone beats Super Mario Bros. in fve minutes and tried to do it myself. I sware that guy must have been cheating because he jumped through all those freaking plants if you watch closely enough. Anyway I got to the first level, eight world and gave up after passing the five minute marker by like ten minutes:cry:

yea u rush right through it..dont take your time...Go strictly from point A to point B...dont explore..dont try to get reactions u wouldnt normally get by playing the game...:roll:LinKuei_warrior

Wow. The point of this thread went right over your head. He said that the main story should take at least 25 hours if not longer.

The only difference with this generation is that gamers run through the games and come here to whine about it afterwards.

This game is 23 hours, stop whining.

This reminds me of the time people were boasting about bing able to complete Oblivion in 3 hours. It could be done but you were missing the point.TiberiusKane

Not including loadtimes of course.

You guys are using flawed lgoic. Games like super Metroid are not only older games but they are of a different style. Mass Effect is a RPG type of game. Games like KOTOR and Mass Effect are supposed to be much longer due to the type of game it is. Comparing it to more fast paced games like sMG which is really long when you consider everything and Halo 3 is false.sonic_rusher

No you are using flawed logic..... a game is a game.... my point earlier if you had bothered to read it properly spoke for itself, but since you can't seem to understand then I'll try again.

Mario 64 is a game that can be beaten without collecting all the "Stars", there is more to the game, but you don't have to do it if you don't want to.

Mass Effect is a game thatcan be beaten without completing all the"Quests"there is more to the game, but you don't have to do it if you don't want to.

You are saying that we can't compare the 2 because they are not the same genre... thats like saying I'm not allowed to compare the value of aFerrari vs a Ford F-150 because although they both offer me transportation they are in fact considered to be a different kind of vehicle..... are ya startin to catch on yet???

They are both still games.... aimed at offering entertainment.... genre doesn't matter and really has nothing to do with my argument...

Why rush in such an amazing game ? It is 50+ hours if you play it as a ... RPG, now if you want a shooter, to fight your way through in one afternoon (like i did in COD4), just get that game, not Mass Effect

The game DOES PROVIDE 50+ hours of gameplay, it is not .... 15 hours, unless you want it to be

12-15 hours on just main story isn't that bad .. better than most games out these days

oblivion is still the lengthiest yet this gen IMO .. i played that for 70hrs, mainly because there weren't too many games out then

now though, with SMG, Assassin's Creed, Kane & Lynch, Mass Effect all out within the space of a few days, i'm kindof glad some of these aren't so long

Oblivion isn't exactly a long game if all you do is the main quest either..user_nat

Exactly, Oblivion could well be finished in one day, if you do nothing other than the main quest

There are always people who complete it faster than others. I think someone could quite easily complete KOTOR in under than time if they didn't do any of the sidequests.

Furthermore, Mass Effect definitely seems to be taking a more "replayable" approach than most RPG's what with the "New Game +" options and the achievements.

Oblivion isn't exactly a long game if all you do is the main quest either..user_nat

Most truely open-ended games are like this. To make a game seem like there is more to explore then you see if you just follow the story the gameplay that is not related to the story needs to be the largest part of the game. I doubt this game will be as linear as KOTOR from what I have seen.

I'm 10 hours into the game and I haven't even left the galaxy yet. I don't know maybe I like taking my time instead of creating a speed run for people to watch. Though you bring up a good point, next-gen games...killing me. Ilived

Tell me everything about it, I need to know, everything from gameplay, story, music, dialogue, exploration, character development( leveling up, weapons)...etc, Im ready to read even if it is 10 paragraphs.

I'm 10 hours into the game and I haven't even left the galaxy yet. I don't know maybe I like taking my time instead of creating a speed run for people to watch. Though you bring up a good point, next-gen games...killing me. Ilived

You haven't left the galaxy, because you can't.... the entire game takes place in 1 galaxy

[QUOTE="Ilived"]I'm 10 hours into the game and I haven't even left the galaxy yet. I don't know maybe I like taking my time instead of creating a speed run for people to watch. Though you bring up a good point, next-gen games...killing me. Veterngamer

You haven't left the galaxy, because you can't.... the entire game takes place in 1 galaxy

One galaxy? I remember hearing from the devs that it was lots of em...this sucks. I guess I am more into the game then I thought.

[QUOTE="Veterngamer"]

[QUOTE="Ilived"]I'm 10 hours into the game and I haven't even left the galaxy yet. I don't know maybe I like taking my time instead of creating a speed run for people to watch. Though you bring up a good point, next-gen games...killing me. Ilived

You haven't left the galaxy, because you can't.... the entire game takes place in 1 galaxy

One galaxy? I remember hearing from the devs that it was lots of em...this sucks. I guess I am more into the game then I thought.

They were probably talking about star systems. Multiple galaxies would be a little farfetched for a game like this.... this coming from a guy who gave Mario Galaxy a 10

... My Astronomy class is ruining everything for me. :(

[QUOTE="Veterngamer"]

[QUOTE="Ilived"]I'm 10 hours into the game and I haven't even left the galaxy yet. I don't know maybe I like taking my time instead of creating a speed run for people to watch. Though you bring up a good point, next-gen games...killing me. Ilived

You haven't left the galaxy, because you can't.... the entire game takes place in 1 galaxy

One galaxy? I remember hearing from the devs that it was lots of em...this sucks. I guess I am more into the game then I thought.

Um, there's one galaxy with multiple planets to visit in the galaxy. When did the developer ever say there was more?

[QUOTE="sonic_rusher"]You guys are using flawed lgoic. Games like super Metroid are not only older games but they are of a different style. Mass Effect is a RPG type of game. Games like KOTOR and Mass Effect are supposed to be much longer due to the type of game it is. Comparing it to more fast paced games like sMG which is really long when you consider everything and Halo 3 is false.Veterngamer

No you are using flawed logic..... a game is a game.... my point earlier if you had bothered to read it properly spoke for itself, but since you can't seem to understand then I'll try again.

Mario 64 is a game that can be beaten without collecting all the "Stars", there is more to the game, but you don't have to do it if you don't want to.

Mass Effect is a game thatcan be beaten without completing all the"Quests"there is more to the game, but you don't have to do it if you don't want to.

You are saying that we can't compare the 2 because they are not the same genre... thats like saying I'm not allowed to compare the value of aFerrari vs a Ford F-150 because although they both offer me transportation they are in fact considered to be a different kind of vehicle..... are ya startin to catch on yet???

They are both still games.... aimed at offering entertainment.... genre doesn't matter and really has nothing to do with my argument...

no if you cant understand it its not my problem I dont care if an overly defensive Mass Effect fanboy is not insightful. Mass Effect entertains you n a different way with less action more thinking. These type of games require more content than a fast paced game with a more simple blueprint. Its pretty funny you dont seem to get it.

BTW I am not even bashing the game, I am gonna buy this game because its one of the few esp on that console that is new and unique. I am simply stating the truth, so if you dont have the brain power or an objective mind to grasp its really not my problem.

[QUOTE="Ilived"]I'm 10 hours into the game and I haven't even left the galaxy yet. I don't know maybe I like taking my time instead of creating a speed run for people to watch. Though you bring up a good point, next-gen games...killing me. HAZE-Unit

Tell me everything about it, I need to know, everything from gameplay, story, music, dialogue, exploration, character development( leveling up, weapons)...etc, Im ready to read even if it is 10 paragraphs.

The game sucks, I hate it...jk. I really won't tell you everything because well it's 1am and my eyes are bleeding. If you want to be confortable about this sudden shortness of the game...well it is that short because the guy rushed it, starting a new game and choosing a different path will give you a different experience. I don't know, wait for the review which IGN said it should come up tomorrow.

[QUOTE="Veterngamer"]

[QUOTE="Ilived"]I'm 10 hours into the game and I haven't even left the galaxy yet. I don't know maybe I like taking my time instead of creating a speed run for people to watch. Though you bring up a good point, next-gen games...killing me. Ilived

You haven't left the galaxy, because you can't.... the entire game takes place in 1 galaxy

One galaxy? I remember hearing from the devs that it was lots of em...this sucks. I guess I am more into the game then I thought.

[QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="Veterngamer"]

[QUOTE="Ilived"]I'm 10 hours into the game and I haven't even left the galaxy yet. I don't know maybe I like taking my time instead of creating a speed run for people to watch. Though you bring up a good point, next-gen games...killing me. BioShockOwnz

You haven't left the galaxy, because you can't.... the entire game takes place in 1 galaxy

One galaxy? I remember hearing from the devs that it was lots of em...this sucks. I guess I am more into the game then I thought.

Um, there's one galaxy with multiple planets to visit in the galaxy. When did the developer ever say there was more?

When they showed the demo. The guy is showing the amount of planets that can be explored and it looked like he left the galaxy/solar system and went to a new one with more planets. It was demonstrated in last years E3 I believe. Am I the only one who remembers that part? Sheesh, I'm pissed off right now because I thought that there was waaayy more for me to do, but now that I found out it isn't true...

Some of the responces...and my rebuttals

I can beat SM64 in 2 minutes

-SM is a platformer, w/ minimal story

Oblivion

-Oblivion is a fully open-ended game. U are never forced to do the story to unlock side-quests. Mass Effect is not a sandbox type game

[QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="Veterngamer"]

[QUOTE="Ilived"]I'm 10 hours into the game and I haven't even left the galaxy yet. I don't know maybe I like taking my time instead of creating a speed run for people to watch. Though you bring up a good point, next-gen games...killing me. PBSnipes

You haven't left the galaxy, because you can't.... the entire game takes place in 1 galaxy

One galaxy? I remember hearing from the devs that it was lots of em...this sucks. I guess I am more into the game then I thought.

Ok, then it was solar systems. I haven't done that yet, sweet.

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="Ilived"]I'm 10 hours into the game and I haven't even left the galaxy yet. I don't know maybe I like taking my time instead of creating a speed run for people to watch. Though you bring up a good point, next-gen games...killing me. Ilived

Tell me everything about it, I need to know, everything from gameplay, story, music, dialogue, exploration, character development( leveling up, weapons)...etc, Im ready to read even if it is 10 paragraphs.

The game sucks, I hate it...jk. I really won't tell you everything because well it's 1am and my eyes are bleeding. If you want to be confortable about this sudden shortness of the game...well it is that short because the guy rushed it, starting a new game and choosing a different path will give you a different experience. I don't know, wait for the review which IGN said it should come up tomorrow.

k.

in the IGN blog , the guy said that he didn't even get into the story and already spent 20 hours playing it .

I couldn't care less about how long the main story is , this game is a open ended world that give you free mobolity .

Hell , I didn't even finish oblivion main story ( last part I did was where you become part of some brotherhood or wtv it's called to protect the kid of the king..... or something .... ) , yet I have 79 hours of gameplay .

The general time seems to be just over 20 hours, but many users on the Bioware forums are calling it the shortest Bioware RPG yet.

Not that that's a bad thing - if they only had enough story/content to fill 20 hours, then I'm glad that they didn't try to drag it out by putting in fetch quests, or whatever.

As posted before, wtf is wrong with this gen?

COD4 - took me 5hrs

Bioshock - ~10hrs (YES, I am that good playing PC shooters)

Halo 3 - 7hrs

GeoW - 6hrs

Not good. If MGS4 will be 10-15hrs, I'll kick the PS3 out the window.

I've easily spent 200+ hours in Oblivion doing the main quest and side missions at the same time. But thing was that the side missions were actually REALLY interesting. It was fun to explore, unlike Bioshock.

[QUOTE="Veterngamer"]

[QUOTE="sonic_rusher"]You guys are using flawed lgoic. Games like super Metroid are not only older games but they are of a different style. Mass Effect is a RPG type of game. Games like KOTOR and Mass Effect are supposed to be much longer due to the type of game it is. Comparing it to more fast paced games like sMG which is really long when you consider everything and Halo 3 is false.sonic_rusher

No you are using flawed logic..... a game is a game.... my point earlier if you had bothered to read it properly spoke for itself, but since you can't seem to understand then I'll try again.

Mario 64 is a game that can be beaten without collecting all the "Stars", there is more to the game, but you don't have to do it if you don't want to.

Mass Effect is a game thatcan be beaten without completing all the"Quests"there is more to the game, but you don't have to do it if you don't want to.

You are saying that we can't compare the 2 because they are not the same genre... thats like saying I'm not allowed to compare the value of aFerrari vs a Ford F-150 because although they both offer me transportation they are in fact considered to be a different kind of vehicle..... are ya startin to catch on yet???

They are both still games.... aimed at offering entertainment.... genre doesn't matter and really has nothing to do with my argument...

no if you cant understand it its not my problem I dont care if an overly defensive Mass Effect fanboy is not insightful. Mass Effect entertains you n a different way with less action more thinking. These type of games require more content than a fast paced game with a more simple blueprint. Its pretty funny you dont seem to get it.

BTW I am not even bashing the game, I am gonna buy this game because its one of the few esp on that console that is new and unique. I am simply stating the truth, so if you dont have the brain power or an objective mind to grasp its really not my problem.

I'm not even gonna bother anymore..... all I'm gonna say is.... WOW... JUST WOW! :roll:

it's longer than 12 hours. but for me the quality is what counts. i've played incredible games this year that were ALL under ten hours.

So did you.

Some of the responces...and my rebuttals

I can beat SM64 in 2 minutes

-SM is a platformer, w/ minimal story

Oblivion

-Oblivion is a fully open-ended game. U are never forced to do the story to unlock side-quests. Mass Effect is not a sandbox type game

-D3MO-

Wow... so many people on these forums are 1 dimensional thinkers... including urself..... GENRE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!

PLAY TIME (platformer) = PLAY TIME (rpg)

the debate is about PLAY TIME in a VIDEO GAME am i right? As a way to determine the games worth/value!

So long as the content is there on the disc then that is how long the game is... not the minimal amount of time it takes to speed through the game.......

As posted before, wtf is wrong with this gen?

COD4 - took me 5hrs

Bioshock - ~10hrs (YES, I am that good playing PC shooters)

Halo 3 - 7hrs

GeoW - 6hrs

Not good. If MGS4 will be 10-15hrs, I'll kick the PS3 out the window.

I've easily spent 200+ hours in Oblivion doing the main quest and side missions at the same time. But thing was that the side missions were actually REALLY interesting. It was fun to explore, unlike Bioshock.

mynameisdigo

10-15 hours MGS4 will be fine with me, as long as it's great. Oblivion is the most depressive game i've ever played. 200 hours in that game would be concidered a hell for me. It's good, but depressive.

Whats the point of playing an RPG if you are going to speed right through it....Blue-Sky

or any game for that matter

remember when people bashed the hell out of GeOW....remember what happened? It won GOTY.rocktimusprime

I remember that, I also remember that enough body with more than two brain cells bouncing off each other found it repetative and uninspiring regardless of its GOTY. Gears looks amazing still, but if graphics aren't all that matters to you it is shallow.

I still want to play Mass effect, I just hope it has a lot of sub quests and replay value because I was hoping for something epic along the lines of the KOTOR games :?.

As posted before, wtf is wrong with this gen?

COD4 - took me 5hrs

Bioshock - ~10hrs (YES, I am that good playing PC shooters)

Halo 3 - 7hrs

GeoW - 6hrs

Not good. If MGS4 will be 10-15hrs, I'll kick the PS3 out the window.

I've easily spent 200+ hours in Oblivion doing the main quest and side missions at the same time. But thing was that the side missions were actually REALLY interesting. It was fun to explore, unlike Bioshock.

mynameisdigo

Oblivion is the same as the others - it's far shorter than the prequel in the previous gen (taking 50-60 hours to complete everything, as opposed to the potentially hundreds in Morrowind).

Anyway, yeah, this gen we're usually getting shorter games or uninspired sequels (usually both). Not only that, but the gameplay seems to be getting simpler, too.

[QUOTE="mynameisdigo"]

As posted before, wtf is wrong with this gen?

COD4 - took me 5hrs

Bioshock - ~10hrs (YES, I am that good playing PC shooters)

Halo 3 - 7hrs

GeoW - 6hrs

Not good. If MGS4 will be 10-15hrs, I'll kick the PS3 out the window.

I've easily spent 200+ hours in Oblivion doing the main quest and side missions at the same time. But thing was that the side missions were actually REALLY interesting. It was fun to explore, unlike Bioshock.

Planeforger

Oblivion is the same as the others - it's far shorter than the prequel in the previous gen (taking 50-60 hours to complete everything, as opposed to the potentially hundreds in Morrowind).

Anyway, yeah, this gen we're usually getting shorter games or uninspired sequels (usually both). Not only that, but the gameplay seems to be getting simpler, too.

Ah man, totally forgot about that.

I've been wanting to write an article about the Degradation Of Gameplay. Seriously, if in the early Lara Croft games you had to control everything from jumping, positioning and catching the ledge, here the game does everything for you.... hhmmm... less intercation, more cinematics :(

[QUOTE="sonic_rusher"][QUOTE="Veterngamer"]

[QUOTE="sonic_rusher"]You guys are using flawed lgoic. Games like super Metroid are not only older games but they are of a different style. Mass Effect is a RPG type of game. Games like KOTOR and Mass Effect are supposed to be much longer due to the type of game it is. Comparing it to more fast paced games like sMG which is really long when you consider everything and Halo 3 is false.Veterngamer

No you are using flawed logic..... a game is a game.... my point earlier if you had bothered to read it properly spoke for itself, but since you can't seem to understand then I'll try again.

Mario 64 is a game that can be beaten without collecting all the "Stars", there is more to the game, but you don't have to do it if you don't want to.

Mass Effect is a game thatcan be beaten without completing all the"Quests"there is more to the game, but you don't have to do it if you don't want to.

You are saying that we can't compare the 2 because they are not the same genre... thats like saying I'm not allowed to compare the value of aFerrari vs a Ford F-150 because although they both offer me transportation they are in fact considered to be a different kind of vehicle..... are ya startin to catch on yet???

They are both still games.... aimed at offering entertainment.... genre doesn't matter and really has nothing to do with my argument...

no if you cant understand it its not my problem I dont care if an overly defensive Mass Effect fanboy is not insightful. Mass Effect entertains you n a different way with less action more thinking. These type of games require more content than a fast paced game with a more simple blueprint. Its pretty funny you dont seem to get it.

BTW I am not even bashing the game, I am gonna buy this game because its one of the few esp on that console that is new and unique. I am simply stating the truth, so if you dont have the brain power or an objective mind to grasp its really not my problem.

I'm not even gonna bother anymore..... all I'm gonna say is.... WOW... JUST WOW! :roll:

Keep those goggles tight on your head kid. Its pretty funny that you wont even respond it just shows that you dont understand it and you refuse to even try to understand it. YOU CANT JUST SAY ALL GAMES ARE LOOKED AT THE SAME. Stop using stupid sw logic to fit your fanboy agenda.