Mass Effect 2 being dumbed down for the "shooter" crowd.

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#1 VideoGameGuy
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One of the things i didn't like much about Mass Effect was the fact that it felt like a shooter with some some RPG elements in it, seems now they're just gonna drop the whole RPG thing and mkae just another Sci-fi shooter. UGH

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#2 AAllxxjjnn
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Well what the **** do you want? Turn based combat? Cause i don't!
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#3 dream431ca
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Bioware has been turned to the "mainstream". Something I thought wouldn't happen.

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#4 finalfantasy94
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After seeing the recent ME2 footage it seems the same. Also part one did feel like a shooter. I dont know what people are talking about.

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#5 Cellpwn
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Oh please, improving the combat isn't going to ruin the game.

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#6 DrinkDuff
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I thought it was always a shooter RPG? Is there any evidence of Bioware removing rpg components vs adding more real-time shooter elements?

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#7 imprezawrx500
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that sux, there are already enough sci fi shooter we don't need more and the first me formula worked well, it was already enough of a shooter it needs to go more towards a rpg with some shooter elements. Will probably still be good but they better not take of the choices.
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#8 Ross_the_B0SS
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I'm going to wait until I see some gameplay before I judge it. I loved the first game and I expect this to be no different. I just know the story is going to be epic:D

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#9 SynisterGamer
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Yeah, fixing the bad parts of the game means they're dumbing it down. Right?

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#10 FragTycoon
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from what I saw it don't look that different from the first. :|

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#11 BioShockOwnz
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It's an Action/RPG. Understand? The first one wasn't any different. Don't like it, don't play it.

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#12 VideoGameGuy
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It's an Action/RPG. Understand? The first one wasn't any different. Don't like it, don't play it.

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yeah see that RPG part?? they placing more emphasis on the SHOOTER part NOT the RPG part.. i don't want another Gears of War clone or something.
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One of the things i didn't like much about Mass Effect was the fact that it felt like a shooter with some some RPG elements in it, seems now they're just gonna drop the whole RPG thing and mkae just another Sci-fi shooter. UGH

VideoGameGuy

and what point in the article does it give you that idea? beause he said the game is going to feel abit more like a shooter than the last game?

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#14 lantus
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I think some of you need to learn the definition of Roleplaying.

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#15 SynisterGamer
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

It's an Action/RPG. Understand? The first one wasn't any different. Don't like it, don't play it.

VideoGameGuy

yeah see that RPG part?? they placing more emphasis on the SHOOTER part NOT the RPG part.. i don't want another Gears of War clone or something.

Why not? Mass Effect bascially hit everything with a deep RPG system, they're making the game better with better combat.

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#16 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

It's an Action/RPG. Understand? The first one wasn't any different. Don't like it, don't play it.

VideoGameGuy
yeah see that RPG part?? they placing more emphasis on the SHOOTER part NOT the RPG part.. i don't want another Gears of War clone or something.

..your jumping into conclusions
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#17 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

It's an Action/RPG. Understand? The first one wasn't any different. Don't like it, don't play it.

VideoGameGuy

yeah see that RPG part?? they placing more emphasis on the SHOOTER part NOT the RPG part.. i don't want another Gears of War clone or something.

Looks just like the first one to me. Don't see what the fuss is about, tbh.

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#18 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

It's an Action/RPG. Understand? The first one wasn't any different. Don't like it, don't play it.

VideoGameGuy
yeah see that RPG part?? they placing more emphasis on the SHOOTER part NOT the RPG part.. i don't want another Gears of War clone or something.

No, they're just tightening up the combat so it feels better. ME1 was kinda clunky.
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#19 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Atleast people can't complain about no moving and shooting, unlike a certain amazing game.

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#20 Burnsmiesta
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Um did you play the first one?

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#21 CYB3R_N1GHTMARE
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Wow my hype meter went below -10,Mass effect was to much of a shooter and it was plagued with bugs and glitches since 360 hardware couldn't handle the intense action of the gameplay..Ah oh well bioware Nice to know you!:(

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#22 organic_machine
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Well, Mass Effect 1 was light on the RPG side anyway.

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#23 BioShockOwnz
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Wow my hype meter went below -10,Mass effect was to much of a shooter and it was plagued with bugs and glitches since 360 hardware couldn't handle the intense action of the gameplay..Ah oh well bioware Nice to know you!:(

CYB3R_N1GHTMARE

Hmm, ran just spiffy for me. It had some framerate hiccups, but that's it. I also own it for PC.

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#24 lantus
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

It's an Action/RPG. Understand? The first one wasn't any different. Don't like it, don't play it.

VideoGameGuy
yeah see that RPG part?? they placing more emphasis on the SHOOTER part NOT the RPG part.. i don't want another Gears of War clone or something.

The only way I can begin to think why you're freaking out over this, is that you never even played the first game, and don't even know what you're talking about, or you're just one extremely insecure person,
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#25 CYB3R_N1GHTMARE
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[QUOTE="CYB3R_N1GHTMARE"]

Wow my hype meter went below -10,Mass effect was to much of a shooter and it was plagued with bugs and glitches since 360 hardware couldn't handle the intense action of the gameplay..Ah oh well bioware Nice to know you!:(

BioShockOwnz

Hmm, ran just spiffy for me. It had some framerate hiccups, but that's it. I also own it for PC.

Not sure what version you were playing the texture loading on the 360 verison was horrible and very noticable and on Top of that some action sequence slowed down the gameplay..That's why it got docked to an 8.5 here.

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#26 404-not-found
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Wow, did people actually think Mass Effect wasn't a shooter with some RPG elements thrown on it? Haha, seriously, play more RPGs.
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#27 Kandlegoat
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TC...there's always Dragon Age,that's supposed to be Bioware's venture back into their Baldur's gate/NWN days.

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#28 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="CYB3R_N1GHTMARE"]

Wow my hype meter went below -10,Mass effect was to much of a shooter and it was plagued with bugs and glitches since 360 hardware couldn't handle the intense action of the gameplay..Ah oh well bioware Nice to know you!:(

CYB3R_N1GHTMARE

Hmm, ran just spiffy for me. It had some framerate hiccups, but that's it. I also own it for PC.

Not sure what version you were playing the texture loading on the 360 verison was horrible and very noticable and on Top of that some action sequence slowed down the gameplay..That's why it got docked to an 8.5 here.

I don't consider some texture pop-in a good reason to bash a fantastic title. Uncharted, Gears, and so many other titles had texture pop-in. It's the least of my concern. I can wait a second for them to "pop". Mass Effect is a stellar title.

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#29 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Looks exactly like the first one -- care to explain which RPG elements have been removed or replaced? :|
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#30 haziqonfire
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Its the same as Mass Effect 1.
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#31 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Looks exactly like the first one -- care to explain which RPG elements have been removed or replaced? :|Stevo_the_gamer
Seriously. :lol:

The first one didn't even have heavy RPG elements.

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#32 VideoGameGuy
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you people are freaking out on me here. Yes i've played the first one otherwise why the hell would i care?? Second i felt that it was an RPG first and shooter second. Reading my link it seems they're making it more of a shooter first, RPG second. My only complaint would be if they took out some RPG elements. Chill people.
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#33 JangoWuzHere
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Mass Effect was a dumbed down RPG. I don't understand how they could dumb it down even more.

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#34 SpinoRaptor24
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It's still going to be a RPG/shooter.

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#35 halo_wars86
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it is hard to believe anything kotaku says about any exclusive game on the 360. they are being feed ALOT of sony money. one example is how they praized ninja gaiden sigma 2 and told us it will have mroe feature in all aspects than ninaj gaiden 2 and FAIL to mention that the will be no blood and where not even sure that bofies do not disappear. anyways you cant take anything kotaku says about any platform that is not japanese seriously they are VERY biased.

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it is hard to believe anything kotaku says about any exclusive game on the 360. they are being feed ALOT of sony money. one example is how they praized ninja gaiden sigma 2 and told us it will have mroe feature in all aspects than ninaj gaiden 2 and FAIL to mention that the will be no blood and where not even sure that bofies do not disappear. anyways you cant take anything kotaku says about any platform that is not japanese seriously they are VERY biased.

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Except, Mass Effect 2 isn't exclusive.
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#37 halo_wars86
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[QUOTE="halo_wars86"]

it is hard to believe anything kotaku says about any exclusive game on the 360. they are being feed ALOT of sony money. one example is how they praized ninja gaiden sigma 2 and told us it will have mroe feature in all aspects than ninaj gaiden 2 and FAIL to mention that the will be no blood and where not even sure that bofies do not disappear. anyways you cant take anything kotaku says about any platform that is not japanese seriously they are VERY biased.

Stevo_the_gamer

Except, Mass Effect 2 isn't exclusive.

no wii no ps3 only on 360 yet so yea it is a console exclusive.

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#38 Vaasman
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Way to fail.

All he says is they're working on making it better for shooter fans, he never said he was dumbing down the RPG elements of the game.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="halo_wars86"]

it is hard to believe anything kotaku says about any exclusive game on the 360. they are being feed ALOT of sony money. one example is how they praized ninja gaiden sigma 2 and told us it will have mroe feature in all aspects than ninaj gaiden 2 and FAIL to mention that the will be no blood and where not even sure that bofies do not disappear. anyways you cant take anything kotaku says about any platform that is not japanese seriously they are VERY biased.

halo_wars86

Except, Mass Effect 2 isn't exclusive.

no wii no ps3 only on 360 yet so yea it is a console exclusive.

Not really. It will be a timed exclusive on the 360 and then it will come to the PC a couple of months later.

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#40 MBP_King
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I'm sure Bioware will do it right.

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#41 VideoGameGuy
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I'm sure Bioware will do it right.

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i hope!
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#42 steve8198
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Well ok then what kind of game would you like some developer's to make

instead of shooters?

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#43 Verge_6
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I'm not gonna read the three pages worth of replies or even the OP, but I'm gonna be comfortable in guessing that it's another case of interpretting "improving combat mechanics" as "giving combat greater emphasis".

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#44 67gt500
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Wonder if ME2 will support that new 360 waggle-wiimote thingy...
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#45 Shattered007
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One of the things i didn't like much about Mass Effect was the fact that it felt like a shooter with some some RPG elements in it, seems now they're just gonna drop the whole RPG thing and mkae just another Sci-fi shooter. UGH

So, in other words ME2 will be like MGS4 with enterative diolog? Cool!!!
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#46 RobNBankz
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So what was the first one, a tactical beat em up?

You guys cry too much. If the game doesn't interest you, just STFU and move on. Stop making pointless threads.

Thats why they made blogs..

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#47 II-FBIsniper-II
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An RPG without broken combat? That's like a survival horror without broken controls! Stop dumbing down our broken games!
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#48 hopesfall2own
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dc'ing already? How is this news when the first one was heavily focused on shooting and powers? Would you rather them use swords in space? Or how about they take turns with magic spells? Give me a break :roll:
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#49 VideoGameGuy
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eh, this is pointless.
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#50 strudel420
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Mass Effect wasn't dumbed down enough? :|