Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut Discussion thread *MASSIVE ME3 SPOILERS GALORE!*

Given what they had to work with in the game I have to say I am able to accept the extended cut as taking the worst sting out of the ending. While I still disagree with the fundamental issue at the heart of it (i.e synthetics vs organics) and still wish that it hadnt come down to one room and a few options to pick, I thought they did a good job and actually dealt with the fallout from your decision more effectively, as well as giving a somewhat more concrete explanation for the starchilds actions. I'm done with Mass Effect for sure now but at least I'm not quite as bitter about it as I was before. Good save Bioware

On control ending: It seems like all of a sudden Commander Shepard let the power go to his head and now he feels like god, it is a change of personality I think. My least favorite of the three.

On synthesis ending: Everyone becomes a nightlight. The only problem I had with this ending is now that everyone has unlimited knowledge and everyone is the perfect being what is the point of living? Ending was alright, second favorite.

On destroy ending: While I do feel bad for destroying the Geth after I just helped them, they are still just AI. With the Reapers gone, there is no chance for someone to make a new AI that will try to infect them in the future. All the races are able to learn and evolve to continue with the cycle of life as they see fit. It will take a much longer time for them to rebuild society but I believe it is the way it should be. My favorite ending.

spinecaton

Im guessing just to live and be happy.

I was somewhat impressed, but all this did was make me more interested in what direction the Mass Effect franchise will head. Oh and bioware needs to give us some damn single player downloadable content!

[QUOTE="spinecaton"]

On control ending: It seems like all of a sudden Commander Shepard let the power go to his head and now he feels like god, it is a change of personality I think. My least favorite of the three.

On synthesis ending: Everyone becomes a nightlight. The only problem I had with this ending is now that everyone has unlimited knowledge and everyone is the perfect being what is the point of living? Ending was alright, second favorite.

On destroy ending: While I do feel bad for destroying the Geth after I just helped them, they are still just AI. With the Reapers gone, there is no chance for someone to make a new AI that will try to infect them in the future. All the races are able to learn and evolve to continue with the cycle of life as they see fit. It will take a much longer time for them to rebuild society but I believe it is the way it should be. My favorite ending.

finalfantasy94

Im guessing just to live and be happy.

I didn't mean it in a way that people will be uphappy, just in a way as the meaning of life after that. Everyone has a different opinion on the meaning of life, I think it is to evolve and learn.

Edit: I know your point still stands, but some people think there is more to it is all I am saying.

[QUOTE="killa4lyfe"] I don't know if the other ships make it out alive...and I am not too sure if he crashed either. It's all a bit vague but I don't really mind...it's a lot better than having another plot hole. :?Stevo_the_gamer

I'm guessing it's because Joker was late leaving the battle since he was trying to wait for Commander Shepard, which meant that the beam followed him closely through the Mass Relay and the ship was rocked enough to crash land but not severely enough to keep it there.

So still no word on indoc fans? I was hoping for more crushing disappointment than I'm seeing.Ace6301

I really like control, it kinda made Shepard like a god in the series.

When I first started the extended cut, I got to the point where you can control Shepard and I playfully shot at the little kid. All of a sudden the kid says "So Be It!" and I ended accidentaly getting the refusal ending

PhazonBlazer

[QUOTE="PhazonBlazer"]

I really like control, it kinda made Shepard like a god in the series.

When I first started the extended cut, I got to the point where you can control Shepard and I playfully shot at the little kid. All of a sudden the kid says "So Be It!" and I ended accidentaly getting the refusal ending

Ringx55

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="killa4lyfe"] I don't know if the other ships make it out alive...and I am not too sure if he crashed either. It's all a bit vague but I don't really mind...it's a lot better than having another plot hole. :?The_Game21x

I'm guessing it's because Joker was late leaving the battle since he was trying to wait for Commander Shepard, which meant that the beam followed him closely through the Mass Relay and the ship was rocked enough to crash land but not severely enough to keep it there.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"]So still no word on indoc fans? I was hoping for more crushing disappointment than I'm seeing.dreman999

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="killa4lyfe"] I don't know if the other ships make it out alive...and I am not too sure if he crashed either. It's all a bit vague but I don't really mind...it's a lot better than having another plot hole. :?The_Game21x

I'm guessing it's because Joker was late leaving the battle since he was trying to wait for Commander Shepard, which meant that the beam followed him closely through the Mass Relay and the ship was rocked enough to crash land but not severely enough to keep it there.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Um, that is another plot hole. The ships make it out fine because the ending sequences showcase them ships, and yet Joker crashes... but mysteriously the ships gets repaired and then launches off the planet at the end? What the heck?Stevo_the_gamer

I'm guessing it's because Joker was late leaving the battle since he was trying to wait for Commander Shepard, which meant that the beam followed him closely through the Mass Relay and the ship was rocked enough to crash land but not severely enough to keep it there.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

I'm guessing it's because Joker was late leaving the battle since he was trying to wait for Commander Shepard, which meant that the beam followed him closely through the Mass Relay and the ship was rocked enough to crash land but not severely enough to keep it there.

Ace6301

[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="Ace6301"]So still no word on indoc fans? I was hoping for more crushing disappointment than I'm seeing.texasgoldrush

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

I'm guessing it's because Joker was late leaving the battle since he was trying to wait for Commander Shepard, which meant that the beam followed him closely through the Mass Relay and the ship was rocked enough to crash land but not severely enough to keep it there.

Ace6301

That. My guess is he jumped into FTL just to get to the relay in time.

Well at least I can say that this is my favourite series of this generation without cringing when thinking about the ending. That's the best thing that could have come from this :)

Note: This doesn't mean I think the ending is perfect. It's just not total sh*t anymore

I thought this extended cut was OK but seriously why not in the game to begin with. Also, nice to see devs cannot make a trilogy that ends at the 3rd game.redskins26rocs

By the time you reach the third installment in anything the amount of time and money invested in it effectively precludes you from outright ending it in a way that it cannot possibly ever move forward from... If it makes money, then the people who invested in it are going to want some way to get back in with it to make more money. And the more money it makes, the more aggressively it will extend itself at the "end" of the trilogy.

Sprinkles on a turd

Very new interesting tidbits.....low EMS endings Regardless of destroy or control, you will LOSE two of your squadmates, the two you bring to the Harbinger sequence. The scene of the squadmates that was revealed to be cut in Final Hours is back in. And they get blown into pieces. Maybe the most brutal squadmate deaths in the series. This is the only time in the entire series Liara can definitivly die. The Destruction ending with low EMS is finally explained. The beam kills everyone it touches. There are very few survivors, Hackett being one. Its so unique that it can be counted as the game's "fifth" ending. Low EMS player who destroy the base in ME2 have two very bad options to choose from, this or "Refuse". The mass relays will explode like in the vanilla ending and the entire crew of th enormandy is killed. No memorial sequence. The Control ending damages everything but doesn't kill. Normandy is damaged beyond repair and the crew is stranded. The memorial sequence also includes the two squaddies and Cortez who were killed in the London mission. Basicallty, Liara's plot armor is completely gone.texasgoldrush

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]Very new interesting tidbits.....low EMS endings Regardless of destroy or control, you will LOSE two of your squadmates, the two you bring to the Harbinger sequence. The scene of the squadmates that was revealed to be cut in Final Hours is back in. And they get blown into pieces. Maybe the most brutal squadmate deaths in the series. This is the only time in the entire series Liara can definitivly die. The Destruction ending with low EMS is finally explained. The beam kills everyone it touches. There are very few survivors, Hackett being one. Its so unique that it can be counted as the game's "fifth" ending. Low EMS player who destroy the base in ME2 have two very bad options to choose from, this or "Refuse". The mass relays will explode like in the vanilla ending and the entire crew of th enormandy is killed. No memorial sequence. The Control ending damages everything but doesn't kill. Normandy is damaged beyond repair and the crew is stranded. The memorial sequence also includes the two squaddies and Cortez who were killed in the London mission. Basicallty, Liara's plot armor is completely gone.Ringx55

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyDF_9NTvPA

Put this in the other thread. It's pretty much the best thing to come out of the extended cut worth quite a few laughs.

Why did the synthesis not cure Joker's Vrolik syndrome but it cured the Quarian immune system?

Why did the synthesis not cure Joker's Vrolik syndrome but it cured the Quarian immune system?

spinecaton

Selective space magic

Having watched them all... it's slightly better. Still largely awful, but no longer series-destroying.

Why did the synthesis not cure Joker's Vrolik syndrome but it cured the Quarian immune system?

spinecaton

Synthesis didn't cure the Quarians, Tali says something about them gaining their immune system back when they went back to their planet. Something like that.

As for the endings, I'm happy. My problem was they didn't make any sense and felt really rushed. Now, I actually know what's going on. My question to Bioware is, how am I supposed to know what the control ending was? I had a pretty good idea of what the other endings had in store, but the control ending felt like it came out of no where. How were we supposed to infer any of what it meant, or what happened to Shepard, from the original ending?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyDF_9NTvPA

Put this in the other thread. It's pretty much the best thing to come out of the extended cut worth quite a few laughs.

Vaasman

[QUOTE="spinecaton"]

Why did the synthesis not cure Joker's Vrolik syndrome but it cured the Quarian immune system?

AmayaPapaya

Synthesis didn't cure the Quarians, Tali says something about them gaining their immune system back when they went back to their planet. Something like that.

I think she mentions in ME2 it would take several generations to get their immune systems back.

[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

[QUOTE="spinecaton"]

Why did the synthesis not cure Joker's Vrolik syndrome but it cured the Quarian immune system?

Sagem28

Synthesis didn't cure the Quarians, Tali says something about them gaining their immune system back when they went back to their planet. Something like that.

I think she mentions in ME2 it would take several generations to get their immune systems back.

It has to deal with their immune systems becoming much weaker after living only on the migrant fleet.

[QUOTE="spinecaton"]

Why did the synthesis not cure Joker's Vrolik syndrome but it cured the Quarian immune system?

musalala

Selective space magic

[QUOTE="musalala"]

[QUOTE="spinecaton"]

Why did the synthesis not cure Joker's Vrolik syndrome but it cured the Quarian immune system?

texasgoldrush

Selective space magic

Didn"t they say that that would take several generations? and that still doesnt explain why it didn"t cure joker..the pinnacle of evolution but a genetic defect is left untouched, a magical green beam can magically fuse diverse biological organisms and synthetic lifeforms instantaneously but it cannot cure a genetic defect? As I said space magic

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="musalala"]

Selective space magic

musalala

Didn"t they say that that would take several generations? and that still doesnt explain why it didn"t cure joker..the pinnacle of evolution but a genetic defect is left untouched, a magical green beam can magically fuse diverse biological organisms and synthetic lifeforms instantaneously but it cannot cure a genetic defect? As I said space magic

I think the Geth spead up the process.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="musalala"]

Selective space magic

musalala

Didn"t they say that that would take several generations? and that still doesnt explain why it didn"t cure joker..the pinnacle of evolution but a genetic defect is left untouched, a magical green beam can magically fuse diverse biological organisms and synthetic lifeforms instantaneously but it cannot cure a genetic defect? As I said space magic

[QUOTE="musalala"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] Or the fact that the Geth were helping the Quarians with strengthening their immune system....you know, facts.texasgoldrush

Didn"t they say that that would take several generations? and that still doesnt explain why it didn"t cure joker..the pinnacle of evolution but a genetic defect is left untouched, a magical green beam can magically fuse diverse biological organisms and synthetic lifeforms instantaneously but it cannot cure a genetic defect? As I said space magic

Err no Tali says even with the geths help it will take generations please stop lying. And no "most" Good sci-fi stories avoid sapce magic crap, unless its intentially built into it ( Starwars) I find it pretty sh#tty that bioware began Mass effect as a straight sci-fi franchise then it devolves into space magic BS at the end.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="musalala"]

Didn"t they say that that would take several generations? and that still doesnt explain why it didn"t cure joker..the pinnacle of evolution but a genetic defect is left untouched, a magical green beam can magically fuse diverse biological organisms and synthetic lifeforms instantaneously but it cannot cure a genetic defect? As I said space magic

musalala

Err no Tali says even with the geths help it will take generations please stop lying. And no "most" Good sci-fi stories avoid sapce magic crap, unless its intentially built into it ( Starwars) I find it pretty sh#tty that bioware began Mass effect as a straight sci-fi franchise then it devolves into space magic BS at the end.

That picture is of god knows when in the indeterminate future... None of what was shown was chronological.

However, the Catalyst explained how synthesis works. And it takes them generations to adapt to their planet....but if you make peace with the Geth, the Geth will help build their rimmune systems, as Tali says after the Rannoch mission. Most space scifi stories have "space magic"...Star Trek is notorious.texasgoldrush

In all fairness, the Catalyt's explanation is only surface deep. It still glosses over the mechanics of how it works, but I'm willing to overlook that.

Also, I think it's funner the Catalyst says it cannot be forced, but Shepard makes a choice that forces the rest of the galaxy to become organic/synthetic hybrids.