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#51 Solid-CELL
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[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"][QUOTE="SeanBond"][QUOTE="lusitanogamer"][QUOTE="SeanBond"]

[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"]Kojima said MGS 4 is impossible on the 360. Hmm...SeanBond

Kojima just rambles, and when he's not rambling, he's kissing Sony's ass. So if he told me the sky was blue, I'd have to look it up before I believed him. And for the record, he never said it was impossible on the 360. He just made some comments about movie theaters, dvds, tvs, pizza, candy...Well not the last two, but seriously, if you can understand anything he says, you'll get that it's pretty open to interpretation.


Kojima is just the most respected game developer in the world, i don't think i need to say more.

That's actually probably Miyamoto, so I think you probably do need to say more...


Ok, true, but my point is your word means nothing compared to what Kojima says. Calling Kojima a liar is laughable to say the least.

While I agree Kojima knows more about developing games for the PS3 (and I suppose the 360) than I do, I don't think you can take anything he says at face value, considering the fact that his company is so buddy-buddy with Sony. Where exactly does he state MGS 4 is impossible on the 360? All he does is talk up the PS3 hardware/blu-ray, and make vague and weird sounding comments about how the PS3 is like a movie theater. And for the record, I didn't call him a liar, I just implied he was biased.

do you honest to god think that a busy Game Developer who barely has free time on his hand is biased and only cares for the Ps3? b/c if you do......wow..
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[QUOTE="Stonin"]

It barely fits on one DVD9 - Microsoft has the better compression techniques AND a faster drive for streaming said compressed data. If we were to expand that data enough and spam it all over the Bluray disk in order to achieve reasonable load times then it simply wouldn't fit! *Gasp*. We could try to get around this by loading all of the data onto the PS3's HDD but that would only screw over the 20gig owners. Mass Effect + Oblivion + OS = Full drive. Ouch.

The 360's GPU is completely superior to the PS3's without mentioning that the 360 CPU is far better for gaming. Also, they want to add DL content for ME and we all know the PS3 can't even handle horse armour.

 

Here is a quote from a dev that works for MS:

"Yeah, the 360 is just better at games than the PS3. I've worked with both and the company that puts money in my pocket DEFINATELY has the better console. I mean games like ME for example wouldn't work on a Sony machine because of a lack of horses under the hood."

That is all the proof you need. The 360 has clearly stepped over the PS3 and is now into the next, next, next next-gen. The Wii has stepped sideways around the PS3 and into the Twilight Zone.

 

You all know i'm right!

Solid-CELL

IF the Xbox360 is so much stronger and better than the Ps3 then why is MS releasing the Elite?

did you also forget about the new news that MS is negotiating whether or not to install a Blu-Ray drive AND motion sensing in future Xbox360 upgrades...:roll:

Do you even know what the Elite is? The Elite changes NOTHING about the hardware configuration of the Xbox 360; it simply expands the hard drive and adds HDMI. MS didn't change anything about the CPU, GPU or RAM, so your comment has nothing to do with the discussion on which system is more powerful hardware-wise.

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#53 tonythestudent
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[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]in my opinion ps3 would be able to run mass effect in the background while playing resistance.TheDarkDisciple
so what... the 360 will be playing mass effect, resistence, AND Crysis

Wait, what?
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#55 Filonus
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[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"][QUOTE="SeanBond"]

[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"]Kojima said MGS 4 is impossible on the 360. Hmm...SeanBond

Kojima just rambles, and when he's not rambling, he's kissing Sony's ass. So if he told me the sky was blue, I'd have to look it up before I believed him. And for the record, he never said it was impossible on the 360. He just made some comments about movie theaters, dvds, tvs, pizza, candy...Well not the last two, but seriously, if you can understand anything he says, you'll get that it's pretty open to interpretation.


Kojima is just the most respected game developer in the world, i don't think i need to say more.

That's actually probably Miyamoto, so I think you probably do need to say more...

 

It depends who you ask. Mario is a far more iconic game character i think, but look how long he's been around for.

But then I remember a while ago reading on internet movie database how Kojima was something like number 15 on the world's most influential artists. I couldnt say confidently who was more reknown. 

 

It's a real shame that a lot of developers out there aren't getting the chance to make more intelligent software because the masses are so used to rudimentary games like mario. It baffles me how people can seriously play through those games.

Jump run jump, lift turtle shell, kick turtle shell...and repeat again and again and again, make the graphics a tad better and market it as new without giving mario any really intelligent motive. 

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[QUOTE="SeanBond"][QUOTE="lusitanogamer"][QUOTE="SeanBond"][QUOTE="lusitanogamer"][QUOTE="SeanBond"]

[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"]Kojima said MGS 4 is impossible on the 360. Hmm...Solid-CELL

Kojima just rambles, and when he's not rambling, he's kissing Sony's ass. So if he told me the sky was blue, I'd have to look it up before I believed him. And for the record, he never said it was impossible on the 360. He just made some comments about movie theaters, dvds, tvs, pizza, candy...Well not the last two, but seriously, if you can understand anything he says, you'll get that it's pretty open to interpretation.


Kojima is just the most respected game developer in the world, i don't think i need to say more.

That's actually probably Miyamoto, so I think you probably do need to say more...


Ok, true, but my point is your word means nothing compared to what Kojima says. Calling Kojima a liar is laughable to say the least.

While I agree Kojima knows more about developing games for the PS3 (and I suppose the 360) than I do, I don't think you can take anything he says at face value, considering the fact that his company is so buddy-buddy with Sony. Where exactly does he state MGS 4 is impossible on the 360? All he does is talk up the PS3 hardware/blu-ray, and make vague and weird sounding comments about how the PS3 is like a movie theater. And for the record, I didn't call him a liar, I just implied he was biased.

do you honest to god think that a busy Game Developer who barely has free time on his hand is biased and only cares for the Ps3? b/c if you do......wow..

Do you live with him? This free time crap is pure conjecture, and has nothing to do with his bias or lack thereof, so please leave it out. Also, do you honestly think that a person with such a vested interest in the PS3 (Sony has been the biggest supporter of his work) isn't at least a little biased in favor of said console? "b/c if you do......wow.."

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#57 Solid-CELL
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[QUOTE="Solid-CELL"][QUOTE="Stonin"]

It barely fits on one DVD9 - Microsoft has the better compression techniques AND a faster drive for streaming said compressed data. If we were to expand that data enough and spam it all over the Bluray disk in order to achieve reasonable load times then it simply wouldn't fit! *Gasp*. We could try to get around this by loading all of the data onto the PS3's HDD but that would only screw over the 20gig owners. Mass Effect + Oblivion + OS = Full drive. Ouch.

The 360's GPU is completely superior to the PS3's without mentioning that the 360 CPU is far better for gaming. Also, they want to add DL content for ME and we all know the PS3 can't even handle horse armour.

Here is a quote from a dev that works for MS:

"Yeah, the 360 is just better at games than the PS3. I've worked with both and the company that puts money in my pocket DEFINATELY has the better console. I mean games like ME for example wouldn't work on a Sony machine because of a lack of horses under the hood."

That is all the proof you need. The 360 has clearly stepped over the PS3 and is now into the next, next, next next-gen. The Wii has stepped sideways around the PS3 and into the Twilight Zone.

You all know i'm right!

SeanBond

IF the Xbox360 is so much stronger and better than the Ps3 then why is MS releasing the Elite?

did you also forget about the new news that MS is negotiating whether or not to install a Blu-Ray drive AND motion sensing in future Xbox360 upgrades...:roll:

Do you even know what the Elite is? The Elite changes NOTHING about the hardware configuration of the Xbox 360; it simply expands the hard drive and adds HDMI. MS didn't change anything about the CPU, GPU or RAM, so your comment has nothing to do with the discussion on which system is more powerful hardware-wise.

i know f-ing know that the CPU and GPU are unchanged in the elite. but your saying that HDMI, which gives better, crisper, clearer, and brighter images on a TV screen, which in the end gives all games a small upgrade in graphics is not an edge for a console to be considered a hardware edge/upgrade? its not my past comment thats the problem here, you just didnt understand where i was coming from. and btw, HDMI IS a HARDWARE upgrade.
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#58 wiljas
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This thread is a joke and I could go on and on about it but plain and simple if the mass effect developer said that he would be contradicting about everyone else out there or showing his complete ignorance. The Xbox360 is a good system but it's not everything it could have been that is why they came out with the elite because they are now playing catch up. The Xbox360 is not better for games it's CPU is not better in any way and the GPU's are very close in power. Since we have not seen any current specs in the past year on the the RSX can do.

But I will say this about the RSX if it is so under powered why is the PS3 able to match the Xbox360's 2nd and 3rd gen games with it's 1st gen?

the only system that now has to worry about power and speed is the Xbox360 because Nintendo didn't try

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#59 donalbane
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[QUOTE="SeanBond"][QUOTE="Solid-CELL"][QUOTE="Stonin"]

It barely fits on one DVD9 - Microsoft has the better compression techniques AND a faster drive for streaming said compressed data. If we were to expand that data enough and spam it all over the Bluray disk in order to achieve reasonable load times then it simply wouldn't fit! *Gasp*. We could try to get around this by loading all of the data onto the PS3's HDD but that would only screw over the 20gig owners. Mass Effect + Oblivion + OS = Full drive. Ouch.

The 360's GPU is completely superior to the PS3's without mentioning that the 360 CPU is far better for gaming. Also, they want to add DL content for ME and we all know the PS3 can't even handle horse armour.

Here is a quote from a dev that works for MS:

"Yeah, the 360 is just better at games than the PS3. I've worked with both and the company that puts money in my pocket DEFINATELY has the better console. I mean games like ME for example wouldn't work on a Sony machine because of a lack of horses under the hood."

That is all the proof you need. The 360 has clearly stepped over the PS3 and is now into the next, next, next next-gen. The Wii has stepped sideways around the PS3 and into the Twilight Zone.

You all know i'm right!

Solid-CELL

IF the Xbox360 is so much stronger and better than the Ps3 then why is MS releasing the Elite?

did you also forget about the new news that MS is negotiating whether or not to install a Blu-Ray drive AND motion sensing in future Xbox360 upgrades...:roll:

Do you even know what the Elite is? The Elite changes NOTHING about the hardware configuration of the Xbox 360; it simply expands the hard drive and adds HDMI. MS didn't change anything about the CPU, GPU or RAM, so your comment has nothing to do with the discussion on which system is more powerful hardware-wise.

i know f-ing know that the CPU and GPU are unchanged in the elite. but your saying that HDMI, which gives better, crisper, clearer, and brighter images on a TV screen, which in the end gives all games a small upgrade in graphics is not an edge for a console to be considered a hardware edge/upgrade? its not my past comment thats the problem here, you just didnt understand where i was coming from. and btw, HDMI IS a HARDWARE upgrade.

There's no discernable difference between HDMI and VGA. I currently use VGA, so no need to upgrade.
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#60 Filonus
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actually i agree with the TC

 

Mass effect in it's current form is most probably impossible on the ps3, because of the way it's been coded for the 360. IF they ported it. it'd look kinda lame on the ps3

 

but here's the getaway http://youtube.com/watch?v=3tYkKjshWhI

 

notice how the camera moves around. That aint cgi  

 

that's impossible on the 360,

 

 

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#61 Solid-CELL
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^^^

tell that to a HD enthusiast...

edit: crap, new page. 

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It barely fits on one DVD9 - Microsoft has the better compression techniques AND a faster drive for streaming said compressed data.  If we were to expand that data enough and spam it all over the Bluray disk in order to achieve reasonable load times then it simply wouldn't fit! *Gasp*.  We could try to get around this by loading all of the data onto the PS3's HDD but that would only screw over the 20gig owners.  Mass Effect + Oblivion + OS = Full drive.  Ouch.

The 360's GPU is completely superior to the PS3's without mentioning that the 360 CPU is far better for gaming.  Also, they want to add DL content for ME and we all know the PS3 can't even handle horse armour.

 

Here is a quote from a dev that works for MS:

"Yeah, the 360 is just better at games than the PS3.  I've worked with both and the company that puts money in my pocket DEFINATELY has the better console.  I mean games like ME for example wouldn't work on a Sony machine because of a lack of horses under the hood." 

That is all the proof you need.  The 360 has clearly stepped over the PS3 and is now into the next, next, next next-gen.  The Wii has stepped sideways around the PS3 and into the Twilight Zone.  

 

You all know i'm right!  

Stonin

MS has the better software as far as the 360, but the hardware is horrible............example this weekend left my 360 and Ps3 on from friday to sunday...........let me just say the 360 didn't quite make it without overheating, my ps3 was still running smooth and quiet.

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#63 elementz28
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Mass Effect got  downgraded if it comes out lookin like gears of war..its nothin we haven't seen before.. ps3 can handle it with breeze..mgs4 will even look bettr then mass effect due to it not bein compressed....
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It barely fits on one DVD9 - Microsoft has the better compression techniques AND a faster drive for streaming said compressed data.  If we were to expand that data enough and spam it all over the Bluray disk in order to achieve reasonable load times then it simply wouldn't fit! *Gasp*.  We could try to get around this by loading all of the data onto the PS3's HDD but that would only screw over the 20gig owners.  Mass Effect + Oblivion + OS = Full drive.  Ouch.

The 360's GPU is completely superior to the PS3's without mentioning that the 360 CPU is far better for gaming.  Also, they want to add DL content for ME and we all know the PS3 can't even handle horse armour.

 

Here is a quote from a dev that works for MS:

"Yeah, the 360 is just better at games than the PS3.  I've worked with both and the company that puts money in my pocket DEFINATELY has the better console.  I mean games like ME for example wouldn't work on a Sony machine because of a lack of horses under the hood." 

That is all the proof you need.  The 360 has clearly stepped over the PS3 and is now into the next, next, next next-gen.  The Wii has stepped sideways around the PS3 and into the Twilight Zone.  

 

You all know i'm right!  

Stonin
That's not proof, it's YOUR OPINION. Please learn the difference.
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#65 Arsenal140
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="subrosian"]I hate fakeboys.
You know why you won't get Mass Effect on your beloved PS3? Because it's not worth their time to publish it on the PS3. Get used to that - it's going to be something you start hearing more and more frequently.donalbane


Just like MGS4 is impossible of 360. It can really go both ways you see. It would be surprising to see a BioWare game come to PS3. I'ts rumored that Dragon Age is in the works for PS3. If this is true, then it will be optimized specifically fro PS3 and most likely wont be ported.


I think fans of any system need to get used to the idea that the only exclusives they can count on with any certainty are 1st party titles. MGS4 is probably going to go 360, and Mass Effect or it's sequels may go PS3 eventually. Big friggin' deal. It's about the games, not the hardware.

Its published by M$...so i wouldn't count on it... a PC version mabye though 

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#66 2largeadults
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MS has the better software as far as the 360, but the hardware is horrible............example this weekend left my 360 and Ps3 on from friday to sunday...........let me just say the 360 didn't quite make it without overheating, my ps3 was still running smooth and quiet.Ericvon71
I agree. But you can make arguments for both sides. MS: What good is reliable hardware if you have no games to run it on? Sony: What good are great games when you have to pray that they work everytime you insert one?
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#67 Ryo_Kensen
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The past couple of days of the screenshots we saw looks like it can't be run on 360 either.shungokustasu

Graphics that are slighty inferior to the Killzone trailer suggest that it can't run on 360?! Oh no! They'll have to cancel it! 

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#68 blacktorn
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I can't wait for Mass Effect,it will probs be the best game yet on the 360 for me (even though it has GH2 to compete with :P).

I guess it will tie me over until blue dragon is released. 

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#69 piano_pimp
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yeah, I'll bet anyone $1,000 that if they put the mass effect disc in their ps3 it wouldn't work

/thread...lol

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It barely fits on one DVD9 - Microsoft has the better compression techniques AND a faster drive for streaming said compressed data. If we were to expand that data enough and spam it all over the Bluray disk in order to achieve reasonable load times then it simply wouldn't fit! *Gasp*. We could try to get around this by loading all of the data onto the PS3's HDD but that would only screw over the 20gig owners. Mass Effect + Oblivion + OS = Full drive. Ouch.

The 360's GPU is completely superior to the PS3's without mentioning that the 360 CPU is far better for gaming. Also, they want to add DL content for ME and we all know the PS3 can't even handle horse armour.

Here is a quote from a dev that works for MS:

"Yeah, the 360 is just better at games than the PS3. I've worked with both and the company that puts money in my pocket DEFINATELY has the better console. I mean games like ME for example wouldn't work on a Sony machine because of a lack of horses under the hood."

That is all the proof you need. The 360 has clearly stepped over the PS3 and is now into the next, next, next next-gen. The Wii has stepped sideways around the PS3 and into the Twilight Zone.

You all know i'm right!

Stonin
umm...what else did you expect him to say?
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[QUOTE="Stonin"]

It barely fits on one DVD9 - Microsoft has the better compression techniques AND a faster drive for streaming said compressed data. If we were to expand that data enough and spam it all over the Bluray disk in order to achieve reasonable load times then it simply wouldn't fit! *Gasp*. We could try to get around this by loading all of the data onto the PS3's HDD but that would only screw over the 20gig owners. Mass Effect + Oblivion + OS = Full drive. Ouch.

The 360's GPU is completely superior to the PS3's without mentioning that the 360 CPU is far better for gaming. Also, they want to add DL content for ME and we all know the PS3 can't even handle horse armour.

 

Here is a quote from a dev that works for MS:

"Yeah, the 360 is just better at games than the PS3. I've worked with both and the company that puts money in my pocket DEFINATELY has the better console. I mean games like ME for example wouldn't work on a Sony machine because of a lack of horses under the hood."

That is all the proof you need. The 360 has clearly stepped over the PS3 and is now into the next, next, next next-gen. The Wii has stepped sideways around the PS3 and into the Twilight Zone.

 

You all know i'm right!

eclipsed4utoo



umm...what else did you expect him to say?

It's a fake quote made up by a troll.

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#72 donalbane
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Mass Effect got  downgraded if it comes out lookin like gears of war..its nothin we haven't seen before.. ps3 can handle it with breeze..mgs4 will even look bettr then mass effect due to it not bein compressed....elementz28
That statement shows your total lack of understanding regarding compression technology.
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#73 Idonomeus
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[QUOTE="2largeadults"]Yawn. A quote from a dev that works for MS. You went out on a limb there! :roll:

Bioware is 3rd party and is making a game for the PS3 :| However I'm sure they could port it if they really put some effort into it.
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#74 Idonomeus
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Also I doubt Bioware said anything the topic creator said they did. It sounds fake to me.
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OMG! ....If they really wanted to, they could put ME on the PS3, yeah things will be diffrent, for better and worse. WHO CARES! if the games good, then it is good, if you want it really bad you'll buy a 360 for it. ...each system has their specialties, Ps3 is a SuperComputer, 360 is a PowerGamingHouse.
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#76 Titus_WoWplayer
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[QUOTE="Idonomeus"][QUOTE="2largeadults"]Yawn. A quote from a dev that works for MS. You went out on a limb there! :roll:

Bioware is 3rd party and is making a game for the PS3 :| However I'm sure they could port it if they really put some effort into it.

Not for sure, they might or might not, the game is still an idea. My dad labled it as a Untitled Next Gen Game, or somthing like that. I'm saying it'll be multiplatform, unless they want to try something new and go only to ps3 with a bran new genre. i have no idea, either do they.
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It barely fits on one DVD9 - Microsoft has the better compression techniques AND a faster drive for streaming said compressed data. If we were to expand that data enough and spam it all over the Bluray disk in order to achieve reasonable load times then it simply wouldn't fit! *Gasp*. We could try to get around this by loading all of the data onto the PS3's HDD but that would only screw over the 20gig owners. Mass Effect + Oblivion + OS = Full drive. Ouch.

The 360's GPU is completely superior to the PS3's without mentioning that the 360 CPU is far better for gaming. Also, they want to add DL content for ME and we all know the PS3 can't even handle horse armour.

 

Here is a quote from a dev that works for MS:

"Yeah, the 360 is just better at games than the PS3. I've worked with both and the company that puts money in my pocket DEFINATELY has the better console. I mean games like ME for example wouldn't work on a Sony machine because of a lack of horses under the hood."

That is all the proof you need. The 360 has clearly stepped over the PS3 and is now into the next, next, next next-gen. The Wii has stepped sideways around the PS3 and into the Twilight Zone.

 

You all know i'm right!

Stonin

Blue ray kills any DVD. 

360's GPu has a slight edge over PS3's gpu.

Even " Lemmings" will tell you that PS3's cell kills the 360s. 

 

Let's not get to far ahead of ourselves now.

 

Your wrong. 

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#78 project343
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Do you have any factual proof that, if Mass Effect was done on the PS3, the game wouldn't be possible?
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#79 Titus_WoWplayer
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he is a fan boy, but he's not completly wrong...load times may be abit longer, say 10 seconds! WOW 10 seconds of my life is gone...wait 6 years of my life is gone i play video games too much...Think about it....lol I own a 360, PS3, and wii (well my brothers own, i just Steal* from them)
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#80 2largeadults
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[QUOTE="Titus_WoWplayer"]he is a fan boy, but he's not completly wrong...load times may be abit longer, say 10 seconds! WOW 10 seconds of my life is gone...wait 6 years of my life is gone i play video games too much...Think about it....lol I own a 360, PS3, and wii (well my brothers own, i just Steal* from them)

Yeah...the load times for the PS3 version of Oblivion were insane compared to the regular DVD format! Oh wait. :D
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#81 Titus_WoWplayer
Member since 2005 • 702 Posts
yeah, i don't get it, ppl complain about the stupid things sometimes, or brag about...who cares. If somethings fun, play it! if you can't play it forget about it, stop bickering.
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#82 kcpp2b
Member since 2006 • 12498 Posts

The past couple of days of the screenshots we saw looks like it can't be run on 360 either.shungokustasu

Nice try 

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#83 kcpp2b
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If the devs try hard they could make it work......................Valve made Half life 2 run on the xbox with 64mb of ram:lol:

theboxmike

I liked Half-Life2 a lot. I played it only on the 360 it was the xbox version ofcourse. I don't have a computer that can run that damn game and not into improving my comp for games and getting a controller for it. PC I only play like emulators of old stuff that's about it

But HL2 was great. Ofcourse the graphics were not as good but still looked good IMO which is a testiment to Valve and how good the game is. I suggest anyone like me who couldn't play HL2 on PC play it on ur 360 or xbox for cheap now. Amazing game. I just wish there was more interaction with team mates more so even, like how in Killzone you are with them throughout the game.

I do enjoy the one man saving the world thing but sometimes it gets old IMO. But gotta love Freeman

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#85 MC2K8
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It barely fits on one DVD9 - Microsoft has the better compression techniques AND a faster drive for streaming said compressed data.  If we were to expand that data enough and spam it all over the Bluray disk in order to achieve reasonable load times then it simply wouldn't fit! *Gasp*.  We could try to get around this by loading all of the data onto the PS3's HDD but that would only screw over the 20gig owners.  Mass Effect + Oblivion + OS = Full drive.  Ouch.

The 360's GPU is completely superior to the PS3's without mentioning that the 360 CPU is far better for gaming.  Also, they want to add DL content for ME and we all know the PS3 can't even handle horse armour.

 

Here is a quote from a dev that works for MS:

"Yeah, the 360 is just better at games than the PS3.  I've worked with both and the company that puts money in my pocket DEFINATELY has the better console.  I mean games like ME for example wouldn't work on a Sony machine because of a lack of horses under the hood." 

That is all the proof you need.  The 360 has clearly stepped over the PS3 and is now into the next, next, next next-gen.  The Wii has stepped sideways around the PS3 and into the Twilight Zone.  

 

You all know i'm right!  

Stonin

Smells like a bull dropped a deuce in here!

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#87 Stonin
Member since 2006 • 3021 Posts
[QUOTE="Stonin"]

Anyways, i'm off home as work has now finished. Yes this thread was completely made up and was a response to the absolutely stupid claims being made in the MGS threads.

See how easy it is to make ridiculous claims with nothing to back them up? I even made it so obviously fake with dev comments that no self-respecting person would write and the cows still bite. Sucks to be you!

BackFlip101

Sucks to be us? You seem like a complete retard.

Ouch, guess I hit your sweet spot huh? ;)
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#88 reya10276
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]The past couple of days of the screenshots we saw looks like it can't be run on 360 either.donalbane

Come on you know those were from an old build. No need to be all sour grapes about it. The PS3 gets some good exclusives too.

 

Which ones? MGS4 and Rachet&Chunks please oh wait a minute I forgot fart sintance fall of man! Yeah This post is a bit out of line since it's an MS Rep. whom is making the claim, now if it was someone from EA or a Thrid Party Dev saying this it would more credible. Also one thing you cats are forgeting is that the 360GPU is a close version of a DX 10 card(please someone explain this to sony fanboys). So it can do a whole lot that the PS3 probably won't be able to do. Don't belive me do the research cause I have. Enough said 360 baby yeah!!!

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#89 LiquidMetal14
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IS this why many devs are touring the Cell over the CPU on Xbox? And I do respect more of Kojimas sentiments beeing he is a proven dev. Those who try and downplay his statements are ignorant.
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#90 darthogre
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It barely fits on one DVD9 - Microsoft has the better compression techniques AND a faster drive for streaming said compressed data.  If we were to expand that data enough and spam it all over the Bluray disk in order to achieve reasonable load times then it simply wouldn't fit! *Gasp*.  We could try to get around this by loading all of the data onto the PS3's HDD but that would only screw over the 20gig owners.  Mass Effect + Oblivion + OS = Full drive.  Ouch.

The 360's GPU is completely superior to the PS3's without mentioning that the 360 CPU is far better for gaming.  Also, they want to add DL content for ME and we all know the PS3 can't even handle horse armour.

 

Here is a quote from a dev that works for MS:

"Yeah, the 360 is just better at games than the PS3.  I've worked with both and the company that puts money in my pocket DEFINATELY has the better console.  I mean games like ME for example wouldn't work on a Sony machine because of a lack of horses under the hood." 

That is all the proof you need.  The 360 has clearly stepped over the PS3 and is now into the next, next, next next-gen.  The Wii has stepped sideways around the PS3 and into the Twilight Zone.  

 

You all know i'm right!  

Stonin

That is your proof?  A quote that states that microsoft pays him so he thinks it's a better console....what the hell do you expect him to say ROFL.  I think everyone knows that X360 is better at somethings and PS3 is better at somethings.  Using a quote from someone who states he thinks X is better and puts money in his pocket at the same time lost all credability lol.

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#91 reya10276
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IS this why many devs are touring the Cell over the CPU on Xbox? And I do respect more of Kojimas sentiments beeing he is a proven dev. Those who try and downplay his statements are ignorant.LiquidMetal14

 

 Really where is your prove of this, because the last I recalled only a few devs where developing games for the PS3 hence the lack of titles! Also this "And I do respect more of Kojimas sentiments beeing he is a proven dev" is only valid when you compare PS3 games, he knows nothing about 360 Tech and if he does he has not provided any insight but only slight dumb ass comments about both consoles. Also he is a *** so guess what they support their own brand why do you think 360 sells eveyrwhere else but Japan? or do I have answer this for you come give me a break you can be a fanboy br be an objective one!

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#92 dubvisions
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Why is MS coming out with the Elite that has a 120GB hard drive if they've got compression down so well? Movies you say? Nope, they will be streamed. Why else then?
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#93 reya10276
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Why is MS coming out with the Elite that has a 120GB hard drive if they've got compression down so well? Movies you say? Nope, they will be streamed. Why else then?dubvisions

 

Well you answered your own question or maybe it was your attempt at sarcasm, in any case yes it is for you to be able or actually for those 360 owners who download movies. because you can't have game content and HD movies on a Drive that small. So is it enough for you, come one some else ask another dumb #$% question, I'm on fire dude. that Wack $#%^ MGS4 Dev WTF he can keep it.

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#94 2largeadults
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IS this why many devs are touring the Cell over the CPU on Xbox? And I do respect more of Kojimas sentiments beeing he is a proven dev. Those who try and downplay his statements are ignorant.LiquidMetal14
Nicely done. Thread destroyed. :D
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#95 Downplays
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[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"][QUOTE="SeanBond"][QUOTE="lusitanogamer"][QUOTE="SeanBond"]

[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"]Kojima said MGS 4 is impossible on the 360. Hmm...SeanBond

Kojima just rambles, and when he's not rambling, he's kissing Sony's ass. So if he told me the sky was blue, I'd have to look it up before I believed him. And for the record, he never said it was impossible on the 360. He just made some comments about movie theaters, dvds, tvs, pizza, candy...Well not the last two, but seriously, if you can understand anything he says, you'll get that it's pretty open to interpretation.


Kojima is just the most respected game developer in the world, i don't think i need to say more.

That's actually probably Miyamoto, so I think you probably do need to say more...


Ok, true, but my point is your word means nothing compared to what Kojima says. Calling Kojima a liar is laughable to say the least.

While I agree Kojima knows more about developing games for the PS3 (and I suppose the 360) than I do, I don't think you can take anything he says at face value, considering the fact that his company is so buddy-buddy with Sony. Where exactly does he state MGS 4 is impossible on the 360? All he does is talk up the PS3 hardware/blu-ray, and make vague and weird sounding comments about how the PS3 is like a movie theater. And for the record, I didn't call him a liar, I just implied he was biased.

Would it help to know that Kojima does want to work on the 360, Wii and PC? Nothing to do with MGS. He wants to do new IP's for other systems once he's done with MGS4. Why kill time working on a port when you can focus on one system and make it to perfection? Kojima has never let his fans down. Ever. It's the same with Itagaki. The both are in my eyes, the best developers out there in the Eastern market. And if you don't understand Japanese culture and how they put things into their own words, then you really don't understand the concept of how they do things in the business world. Remember Crazy Ken's statement with the 4D and crap? It's the same thing. Japanese folks rock. I have high respects for them in the gaming industry. Jaffe's my next favorite cause that guy is an insane developer. Sad to see him though shifting his focus on DLC type games instead of big IP's that he could do. Anyway. That's just my two cents of your little argument. ;)

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#96 LiquidMetal14
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[QUOTE="LiquidMetal14"]IS this why many devs are touring the Cell over the CPU on Xbox? And I do respect more of Kojimas sentiments beeing he is a proven dev. Those who try and downplay his statements are ignorant.reya10276

 

Really where is your prove of this, because the last I recalled only a few devs where developing games for the PS3 hence the lack of titles! Also this "And I do respect more of Kojimas sentiments beeing he is a proven dev" is only valid when you compare PS3 games, he knows nothing about 360 Tech and if he does he has not provided any insight but only slight dumb ass comments about both consoles. Also he is a *** so guess what they support their own brand why do you think 360 sells eveyrwhere else but Japan? or do I have answer this for you come give me a break you can be a fanboy br be an objective one!

Would you not respect a proven dev, who at least has earned a right to his claims? I would understand if it was an unknown dev in the industry but we're talking Hideo Kojima here. If you're mentioning favoritism in *** then the TC's main post has this same mentality, only with a US dev in Bioware. Your point went mute there. Tell the TC to realize this due to your own statements about the *** prefering and knowing more about their own consoles, just like Amercans know more about Xbox. Now we're back to square 1. My objectiveness just came to me as I read your post again.
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#97 mwa
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Anyways, i'm off home as work has now finished. Yes this thread was completely made up and was a response to the absolutely stupid claims being made in the MGS threads.

See how easy it is to make ridiculous claims with nothing to back them up? I even made it so obviously fake with dev comments that no self-respecting person would write and the cows still bite. Sucks to be you!

Stonin

what a complete waste of time :roll: 

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#98 LiquidMetal14
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[QUOTE="Stonin"]

Anyways, i'm off home as work has now finished. Yes this thread was completely made up and was a response to the absolutely stupid claims being made in the MGS threads.

See how easy it is to make ridiculous claims with nothing to back them up? I even made it so obviously fake with dev comments that no self-respecting person would write and the cows still bite. Sucks to be you!

mwa

what a complete waste of time :roll:

It's even funnier how Xbox fans jump to anything just to try and make themselves look like they're better. And yea this thread should not have been made in that case.
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It barely fits on one DVD9 - Microsoft has the better compression techniques AND a faster drive for streaming said compressed data.  If we were to expand that data enough and spam it all over the Bluray disk in order to achieve reasonable load times then it simply wouldn't fit! *Gasp*.  We could try to get around this by loading all of the data onto the PS3's HDD but that would only screw over the 20gig owners.  Mass Effect + Oblivion + OS = Full drive.  Ouch. Stonin

Uh...What?  It worked for Oblivion just fine but it's impossible for Mass Effect?  And I will remind you that if MS wants to move into the HD era of gaming then they can't rely on compression which actually means inferior quality. 

The 360's GPU is completely superior to the PS3's without mentioning that the 360 CPU is far better for gaming.  Also, they want to add DL content for ME and we all know the PS3 can't even handle horse armour.

NOw you are just making asinine claims to play the troll.

Here is a quote from a dev that works for MS:

"Yeah, the 360 is just better at games than the PS3.  I've worked with both and the company that puts money in my pocket DEFINATELY has the better console.  I mean games like ME for example wouldn't work on a Sony machine because of a lack of horses under the hood." 

That is all the proof you need.  

You're RIGHT!  All the proof I needed that the 360 is superior is a quote from an MS employee.  And that quote shouldn't contain factual evidence...just things like "the company that puts money in my pocket DEFINITELY has the better console."

Dude, you should be ashamed for making such ridiculous posts.  Deeply, deeply ashamed.

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#100 LiquidMetal14
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[QUOTE="Stonin"]

It barely fits on one DVD9 - Microsoft has the better compression techniques AND a faster drive for streaming said compressed data. If we were to expand that data enough and spam it all over the Bluray disk in order to achieve reasonable load times then it simply wouldn't fit! *Gasp*. We could try to get around this by loading all of the data onto the PS3's HDD but that would only screw over the 20gig owners. Mass Effect + Oblivion + OS = Full drive. Ouch. Rosencrantz

Uh...What? It worked for Oblivion just fine but it's impossible for Mass Effect? And I will remind you that if MS wants to move into the HD era of gaming then they can't rely on compression which actually means inferior quality.

The 360's GPU is completely superior to the PS3's without mentioning that the 360 CPU is far better for gaming. Also, they want to add DL content for ME and we all know the PS3 can't even handle horse armour.

NOw you are just making asinine claims to play the troll.

Here is a quote from a dev that works for MS:

"Yeah, the 360 is just better at games than the PS3. I've worked with both and the company that puts money in my pocket DEFINATELY has the better console. I mean games like ME for example wouldn't work on a Sony machine because of a lack of horses under the hood."

That is all the proof you need.

You're RIGHT! All the proof I needed that the 360 is superior is a quote from an MS employee. And that quote shouldn't contain factual evidence...just things like "the company that puts money in my pocket DEFINITELY has the better console."

Dude, you should be ashamed for making such ridiculous posts. Deeply, deeply ashamed.

Excellent points. And at least Brain Hastings admits the Xbox GPU being slightly better but stating what we have heard many times about the CELL being a powerhouse of a CPU.