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#1 Spartan3177
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The Mass Effect team has said they want to make the series a generation trilogy, which means all 3 games before next gen. That gives them about 5 years to put out the first game, put out the promised downloadable content, create a 2nd game, create DLC for that, and create a the 3rd game with DLC. PC is getting Dragon Age, and even on the Bioware forums they have confirmed ME is a 360 exclusive. There is really no time to stop and make a port to PC, and if there is expect it in 2009.

 So, even if Mass Effect DOES go to PC, I guarantee you by the time PC gets the 2 year old game we already played we will have or about to have the sequel. Just like Gears and Halo.

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The Mass Effect team has said they want to make the series a generation trilogy, which means all 3 games before next gen. That gives them about 5 years to put out the first game, put out the promised downloadable content, create a 2nd game, create DLC for that, and create a the 3rd game with DLC. PC is getting Dragon Age, and even on the Bioware forums they have confirmed it is a 360 exclusive. There is really no time to stop and make a port to PC, and if there is expect it in 2009.

So, even if Mass Effect DOES go to PC, I guarantee you by the time PC gets the 2 year old game we already played we will have or about to have the sequel. Just like Gears and Halo.

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#3 Kaosed
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it will go, maybe at launch, or in 6 months or 2 years who knows
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#4 smokeydabear076
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I would not have waited for it anyway.:|
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#5 foxhound_fox
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The 360's hardware is not very much different in architecture to that of a PC... a port will be a cake walk for Bioware.
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I would not have waited for it anyway.:|smokeydabear076

I really don't like games like that... 

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I would not have waited for it anyway.:|smokeydabear076

youll just buy it for your 360 ..

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'Nuff said. 

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#9 agentfred
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Never has a bioware game not been on the pc, ever.

Additionaly, bioware said if there was enough demand, they would port it to the pc 

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Of course not because Bioware didn't port Jade Empire and KOTOR to the PC after initially releasing them for the XBOX...

OH WAIT!

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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I would not have waited for it anyway.:|_en1gma_

youll just buy it for your 360 ..

Exactly.
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#12 _en1gma_
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'Nuff said.

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i just beat that game on my pc a few weeks ago 

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'Nuff said.

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ha, gt4 any1? 

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*Jade Empire*

'Nuff said.

TekkenMaster606


Bu...but... teh 2 years later! :cry:
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Of course not because Bioware didn't port Jade Empire and KOTOR to the PC after initially releasing them for the XBOX...

OH WAIT!

Infernal246

actually KOTOR was always planned for the pc. 

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[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I would not have waited for it anyway.:|smokeydabear076

youll just buy it for your 360 ..

Exactly.

and hey you joined a random player maych i was in on gears of war a little bit back.

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Ports of these types are usually NOT handled directly by the developer themselves. Most of the time it's handed off to an unknown third party company that no one even knows about.
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[QUOTE="Infernal246"]

Of course not because Bioware didn't port Jade Empire and KOTOR to the PC after initially releasing them for the XBOX...

OH WAIT!

lawlessx

actually KOTOR was always planned for the pc.

Oh damn, my bad.

What was the reason that the PC verison came out later though? 

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[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]*Jade Empire*

'Nuff said.

foxhound_fox



Bu...but... teh 2 years later! :cry:

 

I'm sure Spore, Crysis, Hellgate, Left 4 Dead, Half Life Episode 2, Empire Earth 3, and whatever else is planned for 2008 will keep me occupied. :) 

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[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

 

'Nuff said.

_en1gma_

i just beat that game on my pc a few weeks ago

Same, waithing reallly wasn't a problem either. 

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]*Jade Empire*

'Nuff said.

TekkenMaster606



Bu...but... teh 2 years later! :cry:

 

I'm sure Spore, Crysis, Hellgate, Left 4 Dead, Half Life Episode 2, Empire Earth 3, and whatever else is planned for 2008 will keep me occupied. :)

Spore + Crysis = Mmmmmh 

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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I would not have waited for it anyway.:|_en1gma_

youll just buy it for your 360 ..

Exactly.

and hey you joined a random player maych i was in on gears of war a little bit back.

Yeah I know, that was on the day that Annex mode debuted. I wasn't playing with sound because I was talking to someone and then I got kicked or something.:D I know this is off topic, but how do you like Annex so far?
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]*Jade Empire*

'Nuff said.

TekkenMaster606



Bu...but... teh 2 years later! :cry:

 

I'm sure Spore, Crysis, Hellgate, Left 4 Dead, Half Life Episode 2, Empire Earth 3, and whatever else is planned for 2008 will keep me occupied. :)

Thats assuming of course that Valve doesn't delay it again for the...

I've lost count how many times now?

Damn cliffhangers... at least Episode 1 gave more resolution then Halo 2's "ending". 

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#24 _en1gma_
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[QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I would not have waited for it anyway.:|smokeydabear076

youll just buy it for your 360 ..

Exactly.

and hey you joined a random player maych i was in on gears of war a little bit back.

Yeah I know, that was on the day that Annex mode debuted. I wasn't playing with sound because I was talking to someone and then I got kicked or something.:D I know this is off topic, but how do you like Annex so far?

i havent played too much of it but from what ive seen id much rather play execution.  they need to tweak the whole spawn thing a bit

 

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#25 TekkenMaster606
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[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]*Jade Empire*

'Nuff said.

Infernal246



Bu...but... teh 2 years later! :cry:

 

I'm sure Spore, Crysis, Hellgate, Left 4 Dead, Half Life Episode 2, Empire Earth 3, and whatever else is planned for 2008 will keep me occupied. :)

Thats assuming of course that Valve doesn't delay it again for the...

I've lost count how many times now?

Damn cliffhangers... at least Episode 1 gave more resolution then Halo 2's "ending".

 

Yeah, that's true. I was cool with the Halo 2 ending, I'm patient. And in my case. REALLY patient. But with Half-Life 2, after that final scene in the Citadel...Let's just say I was like DAMN. Glad Episode One came along. I guess for me, it has more to do with caring more about the characters and the story in Half-Life than Halo.

 

To me, Halo represents the human conflict during a time of crisis. While Half-Life represents the human struggle during a time of oppression.

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#26 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I would not have waited for it anyway.:|_en1gma_

youll just buy it for your 360 ..

Exactly.

and hey you joined a random player maych i was in on gears of war a little bit back.

Yeah I know, that was on the day that Annex mode debuted. I wasn't playing with sound because I was talking to someone and then I got kicked or something.:D I know this is off topic, but how do you like Annex so far?

i havent played too much of it but from what ive seen id much rather play execution. they need to tweak the whole spawn thing a bit

 

yeah the respawing needs some work,but other than that i love it :) 

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#27 foxhound_fox
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Spore + Crysis = Mmmmmh _en1gma_


Crysis also = empty wallet :P

It is going to one freaking sweet year for games... I can tell you that much.
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#28 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I would not have waited for it anyway.:|_en1gma_

youll just buy it for your 360 ..

Exactly.

and hey you joined a random player maych i was in on gears of war a little bit back.

Yeah I know, that was on the day that Annex mode debuted. I wasn't playing with sound because I was talking to someone and then I got kicked or something.:D I know this is off topic, but how do you like Annex so far?

i havent played too much of it but from what ive seen id much rather play execution. they need to tweak the whole spawn thing a bit

 

Yeah, maybe they could make it so it takes longer to respawn or something. I like it though, because it is crazy.
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The 360's hardware is not very much different in architecture to that of a PC... a port will be a cake walk for Bioware.foxhound_fox

Exactly. I have a 360, and plan to buy a gaming PC, so I don't really care, but I'm sure there will be a port.  

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[QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I would not have waited for it anyway.:|smokeydabear076

youll just buy it for your 360 ..

Exactly.

and hey you joined a random player maych i was in on gears of war a little bit back.

Yeah I know, that was on the day that Annex mode debuted. I wasn't playing with sound because I was talking to someone and then I got kicked or something.:D I know this is off topic, but how do you like Annex so far?

i havent played too much of it but from what ive seen id much rather play execution. they need to tweak the whole spawn thing a bit

 

Yeah, maybe they could make it so it takes longer to respawn or something. I like it though, because it is crazy.

lol it is when you keep getting snipers and just camp at the spawn points  haha good times 

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[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]Spore + Crysis = Mmmmmh foxhound_fox


Crysis also = empty wallet :P

It is going to one freaking sweet year for games... I can tell you that much.

yeah its kind of depressing how much money gaming is gonna cost this year 

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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I would not have waited for it anyway.:|_en1gma_

youll just buy it for your 360 ..

Exactly.

and hey you joined a random player maych i was in on gears of war a little bit back.

Yeah I know, that was on the day that Annex mode debuted. I wasn't playing with sound because I was talking to someone and then I got kicked or something.:D I know this is off topic, but how do you like Annex so far?

i havent played too much of it but from what ive seen id much rather play execution. they need to tweak the whole spawn thing a bit

 

Yeah, maybe they could make it so it takes longer to respawn or something. I like it though, because it is crazy.

lol it is when you keep getting snipers and just camp at the spawn points haha good times

Oh yeah. I have not played it for a while so I do not really remember the problems with that mode. It is still a cool mode though.:)
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[QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I would not have waited for it anyway.:|smokeydabear076

youll just buy it for your 360 ..

Exactly.

and hey you joined a random player maych i was in on gears of war a little bit back.

Yeah I know, that was on the day that Annex mode debuted. I wasn't playing with sound because I was talking to someone and then I got kicked or something.:D I know this is off topic, but how do you like Annex so far?

i havent played too much of it but from what ive seen id much rather play execution. they need to tweak the whole spawn thing a bit

 

Yeah, maybe they could make it so it takes longer to respawn or something. I like it though, because it is crazy.

lol it is when you keep getting snipers and just camp at the spawn points haha good times

Oh yeah. I have not played it for a while so I do not really remember the problems with that mode. It is still a cool mode though.:)

yeah halo 2 took control of my most of my gaming for now...which the new maps for are AWESOME

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[QUOTE="Infernal246"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]*Jade Empire*

'Nuff said.

TekkenMaster606



Bu...but... teh 2 years later! :cry:

 

I'm sure Spore, Crysis, Hellgate, Left 4 Dead, Half Life Episode 2, Empire Earth 3, and whatever else is planned for 2008 will keep me occupied. :)

Thats assuming of course that Valve doesn't delay it again for the...

I've lost count how many times now?

Damn cliffhangers... at least Episode 1 gave more resolution then Halo 2's "ending".

 

Yeah, that's true. I was cool with the Halo 2 ending, I'm patient. And in my case. REALLY patient. But with Half-Life 2, after that final scene in the Citadel...Let's just say I was like DAMN. Glad Episode One came along. I guess for me, it has more to do with caring more about the characters and the story in Half-Life than Halo.

 

To me, Halo represents the human conflict during a time of crisis. While Half-Life represents the human struggle during a time of oppression.

Waiting for the inevitable PC verison of Halo 3? Can't say I blame you, I can never get used to a controller's inaccuracy either (and console's lack of mods/subpar multiplayer, perhaps I'm just a bit too impatient waiting for the inevitable PC ports). 

I actually never got around to completing the HL2 single player until Episode one came out, but I agree, after that scene in the Citadel it wouldn't download fast enough. Come to think of it... Black Mesa Source can't come out fast enough either.

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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I would not have waited for it anyway.:|_en1gma_

youll just buy it for your 360 ..

Exactly.

and hey you joined a random player maych i was in on gears of war a little bit back.

Yeah I know, that was on the day that Annex mode debuted. I wasn't playing with sound because I was talking to someone and then I got kicked or something.:D I know this is off topic, but how do you like Annex so far?

i havent played too much of it but from what ive seen id much rather play execution. they need to tweak the whole spawn thing a bit

 

Yeah, maybe they could make it so it takes longer to respawn or something. I like it though, because it is crazy.

lol it is when you keep getting snipers and just camp at the spawn points haha good times

Oh yeah. I have not played it for a while so I do not really remember the problems with that mode. It is still a cool mode though.:)

yeah halo 2 took control of my most of my gaming for now...which the new maps for are AWESOME

$4 for a few maps is too much for me right now because Crysis put a hole in my wallet.:(
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[QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I would not have waited for it anyway.:|smokeydabear076

youll just buy it for your 360 ..

Exactly.

and hey you joined a random player maych i was in on gears of war a little bit back.

Yeah I know, that was on the day that Annex mode debuted. I wasn't playing with sound because I was talking to someone and then I got kicked or something.:D I know this is off topic, but how do you like Annex so far?

i havent played too much of it but from what ive seen id much rather play execution. they need to tweak the whole spawn thing a bit

 

Yeah, maybe they could make it so it takes longer to respawn or something. I like it though, because it is crazy.

lol it is when you keep getting snipers and just camp at the spawn points haha good times

Oh yeah. I have not played it for a while so I do not really remember the problems with that mode. It is still a cool mode though.:)

yeah halo 2 took control of my most of my gaming for now...which the new maps for are AWESOME

$4 for a few maps is too much for me right now because Crysis put a hole in my wallet.:(

ha that sucks

already preparing for it?

 

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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I would not have waited for it anyway.:|_en1gma_

youll just buy it for your 360 ..

Exactly.

and hey you joined a random player maych i was in on gears of war a little bit back.

Yeah I know, that was on the day that Annex mode debuted. I wasn't playing with sound because I was talking to someone and then I got kicked or something.:D I know this is off topic, but how do you like Annex so far?

i havent played too much of it but from what ive seen id much rather play execution. they need to tweak the whole spawn thing a bit

 

Yeah, maybe they could make it so it takes longer to respawn or something. I like it though, because it is crazy.

lol it is when you keep getting snipers and just camp at the spawn points haha good times

Oh yeah. I have not played it for a while so I do not really remember the problems with that mode. It is still a cool mode though.:)

yeah halo 2 took control of my most of my gaming for now...which the new maps for are AWESOME

$4 for a few maps is too much for me right now because Crysis put a hole in my wallet.:(

ha that sucks

already preparing for it?

 

Yeah. And to go back on topic... Mass Effect not going to the PC right away further justifies my purchase of a 360. So I am fine with this although I feel sorry for the other people who have to wait.
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Dragon Age?
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#39 El_Fanboy
Member since 2002 • 5789 Posts
i bet it will come to PC eventually ala jade empire, even if it is much later
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#40 project343
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You also have to understand that Bioware has quite a few employees, so taking 20-30 people off the project to create a PC version is also very plausible. I mean, once Bioware has the engine tailored, the game mechanics all figured out, and the story nailed down, there isn't much use for the 120-ish people working on the game. I'm not saying that it's going to the PC, nor am I saying that I want it to go to the PC, but your argument doesn't rule out the possibility.
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#41 TekkenMaster606
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[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="Infernal246"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]*Jade Empire*

'Nuff said.

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Bu...but... teh 2 years later! :cry:

 

I'm sure Spore, Crysis, Hellgate, Left 4 Dead, Half Life Episode 2, Empire Earth 3, and whatever else is planned for 2008 will keep me occupied. :)

Thats assuming of course that Valve doesn't delay it again for the...

I've lost count how many times now?

Damn cliffhangers... at least Episode 1 gave more resolution then Halo 2's "ending".

 

Yeah, that's true. I was cool with the Halo 2 ending, I'm patient. And in my case. REALLY patient. But with Half-Life 2, after that final scene in the Citadel...Let's just say I was like DAMN. Glad Episode One came along. I guess for me, it has more to do with caring more about the characters and the story in Half-Life than Halo.

 

To me, Halo represents the human conflict during a time of crisis. While Half-Life represents the human struggle during a time of oppression.

Waiting for the inevitable PC verison of Halo 3? Can't say I blame you, I can never get used to a controller's inaccuracy either (and console's lack of mods/subpar multiplayer, perhaps I'm just a bit too impatient waiting for the inevitable PC ports).

I actually never got around to completing the HL2 single player until Episode one came out, but I agree, after that scene in the Citadel it wouldn't download fast enough. Come to think of it... Black Mesa Source can't come out fast enough either.

 

Man, it looks really great. Coming along nicely.  

 

 

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#42 rykaziel
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The 360's hardware is not very much different in architecture to that of a PC... a port will be a cake walk for Bioware.foxhound_fox

 

Who says Bioware has to port it?  Bungie doesn't port the Halo for PC games, MS will just license out another studio if they wanted to. 

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#43 KillaHalo2o9
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Long has it comes to the 360 its ok with me :)
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#44 DSgamer64
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Who cares really? Downgrade Effect is nothing more then a crappy KoToR clone anyway, even Star Wars nerds wont buy into the fact that BioWare pretty much ripped off their own game franchise.
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#45 El_Fanboy
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Who cares really? Downgrade Effect is nothing more then a crappy KoToR clone anyway, even Star Wars nerds wont buy into the fact that BioWare pretty much ripped off their own game franchise.DSgamer64

Kotor clone crappy = impossible. 

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#46 imprezawrx500
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The Mass Effect team has said they want to make the series a generation trilogy, which means all 3 games before next gen. That gives them about 5 years to put out the first game, put out the promised downloadable content, create a 2nd game, create DLC for that, and create a the 3rd game with DLC. PC is getting Dragon Age, and even on the Bioware forums they have confirmed ME is a 360 exclusive. There is really no time to stop and make a port to PC, and if there is expect it in 2009.

 So, even if Mass Effect DOES go to PC, I guarantee you by the time PC gets the 2 year old game we already played we will have or about to have the sequel. Just like Gears and Halo.

Spartan3177

the same was said about halo3 fable, jade empire etc, it will most likely come to pc going buy what has happend in the past and this is the gen of multiplats

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#47 Killfox
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Ill just get it for 360. Whatever games dont come out on PC ill just get it on my 360.
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#48 PannicAtack
Member since 2006 • 21040 Posts

Never has a bioware game not been on the pc, ever.

Additionaly, bioware said if there was enough demand, they would port it to the pc 

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Woah, Shattered Steel got a 6.8...
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#49 Idonomeus
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I would not have waited for it anyway.:|smokeydabear076

I waited for Jade Empire but the 360 is a much better platform than the original Xbox, so I won't be waiting for Mass Effect :)

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#50 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I would not have waited for it anyway.:|Idonomeus

I waited for Jade Empire but the 360 is a much better platform than the original Xbox, so I won't be waiting for Mass Effect :)

I'll have to wait. My parents won't let me get a 360. As a matter of fact, they haven't let me do any gaming since February... >_>