mass effect will flop and heres why

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#51 myke2010
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[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"][QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"] If you actually believe what you just said: quit gaming. The poster who says the Bioware devs piss excellence is right, you are wrong.

IbukiNinja

Never said Bioware wasn't good. Just saying they're overrated.

Why is everything that's not on a PS console "overrated" to cows? You haven't given a single reason why they're overrated. I'm not going to argue against this, because in my eyes the word "overrated" is now a substitute for a real argument from people like you.

Don't make a general cow argument mines. I'm not stating what you post. I stating that Bioware is overrated. I also gave reason why I think so.

All the Bioware Xbox RPGs were AA. You have yet to give one reason why they're overrated.
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#52 CaseyWegner
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All the Bioware Xbox RPGs were AA. You have yet to give one reason why they're overrated.myke2010

they had 2 xbox games. kotor was AAA with 9.1 and jade empire was AA with 8.4

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#54 myke2010
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[QUOTE="myke2010"] All the Bioware Xbox RPGs were AA. You have yet to give one reason why they're overrated.CaseyWegner

they had 2 xbox games. kotor was AAA with 9.1 and jade empire was AA with 8.4

Oops, was looking at the score for the PC version of KOTOR. My bad.
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#55 IbukiNinja
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[QUOTE="myke2010"] All the Bioware Xbox RPGs were AA. You have yet to give one reason why they're overrated.CaseyWegner

they had 2 xbox games. kotor was AAA with 9.1 and jade empire was AA with 8.4

speaking of bad rpgs, How was Jade Empire?

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#56 BioShockOwnz
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Gamespot reviews are all that matters, so if it reviews a AAA at Gamespot, it's not a flop.
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#57 PannicAtack
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So... why is it going to flop? Because some casuals will mistake it for a shooter? >_>

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#58 myke2010
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A double AA title is considered a bad game?? Man the PS3 lineup must really suck then. (sarcasm off)
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#59 MasterFenix5100
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So you're saying since I like shooters that anything else I'll hate? Tons of people on live say how excited they are for Mass Effect, including me.

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#60 HummaKavula
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it will flop in sales BIG TIME. bring the thread up later if you want

resistancemang

You've obviously never played a BioWare game before. And it won't flop just because you're not buying it.

If you're not a fan of RPG's that's fine, but don't make a topic saying "I don't think Mass Effect looks good therefore it will flop".

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#62 TheCrazed420
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[QUOTE="myke2010"] All the Bioware Xbox RPGs were AA. You have yet to give one reason why they're overrated.CaseyWegner

they had 2 xbox games. kotor was AAA with 9.1 and jade empire was AA with 8.4

No need to stay on the xbox. These guys developed Baldurs Gate(AAA, 9.2), Baldurs Gate 2 ( AAA, 9.2), and Neverwinter Nights ( AAA,9.2).

Ibukininja, please, explain again how you think this developer is overrated?

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#63 SaintBlaze
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So... why is it going to flop? Because some casuals will mistake it for a shooter? >_>

PannicAtack

I think that's what he's basically saying. Ofcourse it makes no sense what so ever.

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#64 Vyse_The_Daring
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="myke2010"] All the Bioware Xbox RPGs were AA. You have yet to give one reason why they're overrated.IbukiNinja

they had 2 xbox games. kotor was AAA with 9.1 and jade empire was AA with 8.4

speaking of bad rpgs, How was Jade Empire?

It was great, just like the score of 8.4 and title "great" said so.

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#65 furtherfan
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i think you could be right.
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#66 norfair_dweller
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Fable sold 2 million on the old Xbox and Knights of the Old Republic sold 1.3 million. Both are RPGs, and there six games that sold over a million on the Xbox. Two of them are shooters, both are Halo. The others are Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory and Project Gotham Racing. Both Fable and KOTOR are at the bottom of the list, but they are both within striking distance of Splinter Cell and Gotham; none of the games can touch either of the Halos. The second best-selling game on the 360 is Oblivion, with 3 million. Gears of War, the top-selling game on the 360, sold 3.7 million.

Xbox owners aren't just shooter fans. Try again.

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#67 Verge_6
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:| Wow, you managed to be offensive, fanboyish, ang generalizing in ONE post. Good job.
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#68 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="myke2010"] All the Bioware Xbox RPGs were AA. You have yet to give one reason why they're overrated.Vyse_The_Daring

they had 2 xbox games. kotor was AAA with 9.1 and jade empire was AA with 8.4

speaking of bad rpgs, How was Jade Empire?

It was great, just like the score of 8.4 and title "great" said so.

Dude, it's Shungokustasu. You know he doesn't respond well to non-Playstation RPGs faring well.

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#69 TheCrazed420
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[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="myke2010"] All the Bioware Xbox RPGs were AA. You have yet to give one reason why they're overrated.Verge_6

they had 2 xbox games. kotor was AAA with 9.1 and jade empire was AA with 8.4

speaking of bad rpgs, How was Jade Empire?

It was great, just like the score of 8.4 and title "great" said so.

Dude, it's Shungokustasu. You know he doesn't respond well to non-Playstation RPGs faring well.

Well, that would explain a lot. I dont know how you guys figure this out though...

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#70 Supernova_86
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Bioware is the most overrated comapny in gaming.IbukiNinja
If you have played NeverWinter Nights, your opinion would be different, because I have played numeorus BioWare games and they rock.
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#71 GabeBlack
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maybe the oblivion freaks(not saying that in a bad way) will pick this game up. but all these hardcore 360 fans who primarly play shooters will get this game and think its crap then take it back or sell it for another game. they are just hyping it now cause its one of the few exclusives that look good. this game is not a shooter. its a rpg wanna be shooter that is going to flop in many lemmings eyes because most of themare huge FPS fans(me being one of them)this game will not be game of the year im not even sure it will be nominated. personally i think gta4 will get that but thats my opinion. unreal tournament 2007 will sell better then mass effect. every new shooter coming out for the 360 might even sell better then mass effect. looking at my crystal ball now

resistancemang

You know I find it strange you would say this when it has been shown that games like Oblivion have sold on the 360. And what seemed to be the most wanted games coming out for the 360 arent shooters. But its hard not to find games today that dont have guns in it in some form. (Halo 3 of course is one of the most hyped this year for the 360.)

I also find it strange that the most hyped games coming this year or the begining of next year on the PS3 are shooters.

I will note this by what you have in your tag.

(by 2009 the exclusive game list will be3 to 1 in sonys favor of GAMES. of course hd dvd will also be dead by then.

lemmings were dead wrong about killzone2. feels good to be right

UT3 will have the superior version on the ps3. have fun paying for your mods lemmings and no keyboard mouse support.)

You seem to like shooters there. Alot so as you said in your post above.

There are 360 games selling on the 360 that arent shooters in the normal sense. And not just alittle but in the Millions range.

The fact anyone would call any console only having a certain type of gaming crowed is silly.

This year has sucked when it comes to rpgs and everyone is hungry as hell to see something.

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#72 OldParr
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[QUOTE="resistancemang"][QUOTE="OldParr"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]you really think hardcore 360 fans will buy it cause they think it's a shooter? :|CaseyWegner

i know,he got me there too

yes i think thats the main reason they think its good. its not a shooter at all. if you like those type of games you might like mass effect. but looking at the fan base all together of 360 community. they will not like it

if they're hardcore 360 fans then they're going to know that the game is not a shooter.

casey can i isnsult him without being moderated???

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#73 Vyse_The_Daring
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[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="myke2010"] All the Bioware Xbox RPGs were AA. You have yet to give one reason why they're overrated.Verge_6

they had 2 xbox games. kotor was AAA with 9.1 and jade empire was AA with 8.4

speaking of bad rpgs, How was Jade Empire?

It was great, just like the score of 8.4 and title "great" said so.

Dude, it's Shungokustasu. You know he doesn't respond well to non-Playstation RPGs faring well.

Damnit, why didn't anyone else tell me it was Shungo? I would have just ignored it.

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#74 0starter0
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I'm buying it, so therefore it cannot possibly flop.

/thread

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#75 GunSmith1_basic
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I think mass effect will flop in that it wont meet these outrageous expectations people have for the game. I absolutely fell in love with the plot (what they gave anyway) and the ideas it brings to the FPS/RPG hybrid mechanic. However, I think that it will have a lot of annoying things like that conversation system, which will not work well imo, and it seems to me that the plot's finer points will become tiresome, especially with that vast number of alien species.

A must have game, but I think there are other, better rpgs coming out this year, on ps3 and 360

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#76 Verge_6
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Well, that would explain a lot. I dont know how you guys figure this out though...

TheCrazed420

It's logic, really. Look at his join-up date. He's joined since Shungo was banned, he has a rabid obssession for Street Fighter, has an animated avatar of said game series, is a Sony fanatic, hates Microsoft with a passion, has a similar posting style...

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#77 fierro316
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I just saw trailer 2, no way it's going to flop.
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#78 Vyse_The_Daring
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[QUOTE="TheCrazed420"]

Well, that would explain a lot. I dont know how you guys figure this out though...

Verge_6

It's logic, really. Look at his join-up date. He's joined since Shungo was banned, he has a rabid obssession for Street Fighter, has an animated avatar of said game series, is a Sony fanatic, hates Microsoft with a passion, has a similar posting style...

*Slaps forehead* I should have noticed all that. I didn't know he was banned though I thought he just left.

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#79 BrooklynBomber
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Hey Tc what do you mean by flop ??

1. Not AAA

2. Not a million seller

3. Both

Please explain the only thing I worry about is it's going to be short.

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#80 TheSystemLord1
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Flop? You officially lose teh forum priv3l3g3zzz!@
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#81 IbukiNinja
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[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="myke2010"] All the Bioware Xbox RPGs were AA. You have yet to give one reason why they're overrated.Verge_6

they had 2 xbox games. kotor was AAA with 9.1 and jade empire was AA with 8.4

speaking of bad rpgs, How was Jade Empire?

It was great, just like the score of 8.4 and title "great" said so.

Dude, it's Shungokustasu. You know he doesn't respond well to non-Playstation RPGs faring well.

I'm not shungokustasu...Why I'm being called him? Is this some inside joke?

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#84 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="myke2010"] All the Bioware Xbox RPGs were AA. You have yet to give one reason why they're overrated.IbukiNinja

they had 2 xbox games. kotor was AAA with 9.1 and jade empire was AA with 8.4

speaking of bad rpgs, How was Jade Empire?

quite good. i didn't care as much for the theme as i did the others but it was still very enjoyable.

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#85 CyanX73
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Mass Effect will probably get AA. Bioware has a lot of work to do because that latest trailer does not look like anything special.
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#86 CyanX73
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quite good. i didn't care as much for the theme as i did the others but it was still very enjoyable.

CaseyWegner

It was over-rated though.

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#87 mlbslugger86
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i smell envy...just stop with the bashing...they made knights of the old republic. my favorite rpg of all time...
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

quite good. i didn't care as much for the theme as i did the others but it was still very enjoyable.

CyanX73

It was over-rated though.

I actually thought it was underrated. Great game.

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#89 mlbslugger86
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Mass Effect will probably get AA. Bioware has a lot of work to do because that latest trailer does not look like anything special. CyanX73

*sigh* 360 is actually getting a decent looking rpg and sony fanboys bash it left and right

would you like it if we started bashing final fantasy?

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#90 IbukiNinja
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[QUOTE="CyanX73"]Mass Effect will probably get AA. Bioware has a lot of work to do because that latest trailer does not look like anything special. mlbslugger86

*sigh* 360 is actually getting a decent looking rpg and sony fanboys bash it left and right

would you like it if we started bashing final fantasy?

If Mass Effect gets AAA, I'm happy for you. I just don't see it happening.

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#91 Blue-Sphere
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[QUOTE="ginglejangle"]

what he is trying to say

"it will flop because its not on the ps3"

Meu2k7

Yep, thats all I got out of it too.

I second that.
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#92 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

quite good. i didn't care as much for the theme as i did the others but it was still very enjoyable.

CyanX73

It was over-rated though.

what should it have got?

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#93 the-very-best
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I think the game will be critically acclaimed but I don't expect it to sell well at all. The timing of its release coincides with much stronger competition, and games that have more appeal to a broader audience.
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#94 adriancostin83
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No, no, no, no.

No.

Go back to the Heavenly Sword demo.

Israfel856

nooooooooooooooooo

Mass Effect is a good game, the only thing bad about it is the framerate

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I think the game will be critically acclaimed but I don't expect it to sell well at all. The timing of its release coincides with much stronger competition, and games that have more appeal to a broader audience.the-very-best

Really? November looks quite empty for 360 releases,

Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed, COD4, and maybe Lost Odyssey.

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#96 the-very-best
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[QUOTE="the-very-best"]I think the game will be critically acclaimed but I don't expect it to sell well at all. The timing of its release coincides with much stronger competition, and games that have more appeal to a broader audience.BioShockOwnz

Really? November looks quite empty for 360 releases,

Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed, COD4, and maybe Lost Odyssey.

Assassin's Creed and COD4 will take the spotlight.

And people will still be playing Halo.

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#97 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="Israfel856"]

No, no, no, no.

No.

Go back to the Heavenly Sword demo.

adriancostin83

nooooooooooooooooo

Mass Effect is a good game, the only thing bad about it is the framerate

are you from the future?

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#98 EricForeman
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It's kind of hard for people to get their head around it, but if you want a next gen RPG, the 360 right now is the console to own. That may change after the release of Final Fantasy XIII, but it may not.

Enough people bought Oblivion to prove there is an audience for RPG's among the 360 owners. Mass Effect has the potential to do very well. I for one think it looks killer and will pre-order itsoon.

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#99 ff7isnumbaone
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maybe the oblivion freaks(not saying that in a bad way) will pick this game up. but all these hardcore 360 fans who primarly play shooters will get this game and think its crap then take it back or sell it for another game. they are just hyping it now cause its one of the few exclusives that look good. this game is not a shooter. its a rpg wanna be shooter that is going to flop in many lemmings eyes because most of themare huge FPS fans(me being one of them)this game will not be game of the year im not even sure it will be nominated. personally i think gta4 will get that but thats my opinion. unreal tournament 2007 will sell better then mass effect. every new shooter coming out for the 360 might even sell better then mass effect. looking at my crystal ball now

resistancemang

looks nerdy and boring with pretty graphics.

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#100 H3llstrike
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you really think hardcore 360 fans will buy it cause they think it's a shooter? :|CaseyWegner
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