Metriod Prime 3 review confuses me =S

Ok... first it gets a badge for being a great sequel

Great sequel - Games my be the only medium in which the sequel is routinely better than the previous installment--but just tweaking a few things and adding two moves isn't enough to merit this commendation. Sequels that make significant, exciting improvements are what we're looking for.

Doesn't do much diffrent than the previous two metriod games

thats pretty self explanitory

Your enemies fall faster, boss encounters require less controller fumbling, and there is an overall ease to travel and movement that the series lacked before.
It's a double-edged sword, however, because while most Metroid Prime hallmarks--object scanning, careful exploration, complex puzzle-solving--remain, Corruptio-*n feels less like a probing adventure than a regular shooter.

Ok so let me get this straight... because enemies die faster... which means MORE TIME to focus on ADVENTURING and LESS ON SHOOTING.... it makes it LESS adventurous and more like a shooter???

The good news is that moving about is less frustrating and plodding than before. Your enemies fall faster, boss encounters require less controller fumbling, and there is an overall ease to travel and movement that the series lacked before.

Its core control scheme is a revelation, but the resulting tempo adjustment and streamlining is missing some of the careful pacing that made Metroid Prime and Metroid Prime 2 so superb.


Ok so first its good news that the game picks up pace... then its bad?

Lets go back to the first contradiction again...

Doesn't do much diffrent than the previous two metriod games

Metroid Prime 3 takes on characteristics more akin to a standard first-person shooter than its predecessors did.

Corruption's finest moments are its boss battles, which may not be quite the challenge they've been in the previous Prime games,

Yet Corruption's focus on refined FPS mechanics and general sense of familiarity keep it from being as special as the other Prime titles.

Its core control scheme is a revelation, but the resulting tempo adjustment and streamlining is missing some of the careful pacing that made Metroid Prime and Metroid Prime 2 so superb

Why is it being constantly bashed for being too diffrent from the previous metriod games?

And does gamespot even know that the game has harder difficulties? Oh wait... increased enemy a.i. would make it more like an fps.. wait... nvm dumb enemy a.i. that makes the game easy makes it more like an fps... wait.. aslfkajsd o;fij ;dslfajsd ;flasdhg-9as8uf

I can understand bashing the game for being too fps like, if retro dumbed down the exploration and puzzles to make up for it. But they made the exploration and puzzles as good as ever. Whats so bad about having the best of both worlds?

Lets say MP2 gets a 5/10 as an fps and 10/10 for adventure. If MP3 would have been an 10/10 for fps and 5/10 for adventure then thats understandable. But whats so bad about getting a 10/10 in both?

Nothing bad about MP3 it just flopped like Zelda:TP.

Like a lot of recent reviews, the Prime 3 review is poorly written, overly "complainy" and self-contradictory. I really wish Kasavin would come back and show them how to write a critical yet insightful review.foxhound_fox

Or like his MGS2 one that he himself admitted he overrated?

Then again veryone complains when reviews aren't favorable for them, nothing new here.

Everyone who's played Metroid knows it's an AAA game.

You mean like his DMC3 review that everybody complained about his whinning?

Or like his MGS2 one that he himself admitted he overrated?

Then again veryone complains when reviews aren't favorable for them, nothing new here.

Panzer_Zwei

I have to agree with Foxhound_Fox, the reviews around here do seem to be overly critical, and it really seems (to me anyway) that GS is going out of their way to complain about games. Also tThe he biggest problem I have is that it sounds like the reviews are done on the default difficulty setting (and therefore not the hardest difficulty), and then the reviewerproceeds to complain about how the game is too easy.

Everyone who's played Metroid knows it's an AAA game.

Smoke_ManMuscle

It flopped, lets move on people.

[QUOTE="Smoke_ManMuscle"]

Everyone who's played Metroid knows it's an AAA game.

Ragnarok1051

It flopped, lets move on people.

If you say so. I disagree, and since we can't argue opinions, you can't prove me wrong when I say it's AAA.

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Smoke_ManMuscle"]

Everyone who's played Metroid knows it's an AAA game.

Smoke_ManMuscle

It flopped, lets move on people.

If you say so. I disagree, and since we can't argue opinions, you can't prove me wrong when I say it's AAA.

Yes I can, I could give you a link to gamespot's review for MP3. You would be proven wrong. MP3 flopped on Gamespot, so lets move on.

Everyone who's played Metroid knows it's an AAA game.

Smoke_ManMuscle

Not Gamespot

Yeah it "flopped" what ever... but i just wanna know why is it again that we are only using gs' reviews? especially now that the rules of sw has changed.Silenthps

I don't know, maybe because we're on Gamespot?

[QUOTE="Smoke_ManMuscle"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Smoke_ManMuscle"]

Everyone who's played Metroid knows it's an AAA game.

Ragnarok1051

It flopped, lets move on people.

If you say so. I disagree, and since we can't argue opinions, you can't prove me wrong when I say it's AAA.

Yes I can, I could give you a link to gamespot's review for MP3. You would be proven wrong. MP3 flopped on Gamespot, so lets move on.

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Smoke_ManMuscle"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Smoke_ManMuscle"]

Everyone who's played Metroid knows it's an AAA game.

coolviper2003

It flopped, lets move on people.

If you say so. I disagree, and since we can't argue opinions, you can't prove me wrong when I say it's AAA.

Yes I can, I could give you a link to gamespot's review for MP3. You would be proven wrong. MP3 flopped on Gamespot, so lets move on.

And yet it still doesn't change the score, the game is still a flop.

ugh this site is so pathetic. It's like people here are mindless drones to the rules of sw, regardless of how illogical it sounds. And when the creator of the rules is a biased hermit... then theres really no point in staying. anyone know any other good gaming forums?Silenthps

We're only like this on system wars, most of us have prolly played MP3 and loved it. Why do people think System Wars continues when you shut down your computer?

Like a lot of recent reviews, the Prime 3 review is poorly written, overly "complainy" and self-contradictory. I really wish Kasavin would come back and show them how to write a critical yet insightful review.foxhound_fox

Nah, Gamespot seems to be the problem as a whole. Look at that SOR2 article, and its cynical, pretentious ending. Why not just say "we love the same exact version of this game on a different system because of one feature"? And the Super Metroid reveiw's bad point was its RELEASE DATE, something that DOES NOT AFFECT THE QUALITY OF A GAME. And we all know of the TP reviews, where one says that the controls are unresponsive and tacked on in the Wii version, but then praises them in the other. Plus Super Paper Mario. *vents anger much like Samus vents Phazon*

And yet it still doesn't change the score, the game is still a flop.

Ragnarok1051

It doesn't change the fact that many people think it AAA. I think that was what Smoke_ManMuscle was talking about.

The review was poorly written. Its not a good review, it doesn't help the person reading the review to determine whether or not this game is something they would want to play. Its a piece that would struggle to pass muster in a high school course, let alone something done professionally.

Overall, the new editorial direction at gamespot is not off to a strong start. They seem to be placing a higher premium on being contrarian, and presenting themselves as the "hardcore", defined by adolescent males, game site. Looking at some of the affectations that their writers and reviewers have, looking at this clownish middle school behavior, trying to, laughably, look hard and "urban" in game video reviews, it really diminishes any credibility this site has established over the years. There is starting to be a creeping feeling that gamespot is becoming more and more filled with scenesters, people who are more about the surrounding internet culture and hype about video games, than about the actual games. Which is one of the worst things than can happen to a magazine or site covering any specialist hobby.

MP3 flopped, get over it and go hype your other titles Sheepbatistafan99

mp3 did not flopped cuz have u seen the critics overall 9.2 i count thatas loztp it got a way better critic review than gears beat that

[QUOTE="batistafan99"]MP3 flopped, get over it and go hype your other titles Sheeplastroxas

mp3 did not flopped cuz have u seen the critics overall 9.2 i count thatas loztp it got a way better critic review than gears beat that

Funny, I can link you to where it says it is a flop on gamespot easily

Very Important:
Just because someone is posting on a GS forums does not mean he/she agrees/cares about GS's reviews. If you come in and try to tell him/her that it flopped... and link GS's review... then you just look like a mindless idot who prolly needs your mother to pick your clothes out for you.
Since this is a GS forum... its the perfect place to discuss the quality of the site and reviews. If there are contradictions and mistakes in the review... we can surely discuss them and compare them to those of other sites.
If these discussions bring about a bad reputation to GS, then maybe the site needs to do another overhaul their their review system... by that I mean hire some professionals.AntiType

Many people don't agree with the laws in America... Don't like em, go somewhere else or shut up

[QUOTE="AntiType"]Very Important:
Just because someone is posting on a GS forums does not mean he/she agrees/cares about GS's reviews. If you come in and try to tell him/her that it flopped... and link GS's review... then you just look like a mindless idot who prolly needs your mother to pick your clothes out for you.
Since this is a GS forum... its the perfect place to discuss the quality of the site and reviews. If there are contradictions and mistakes in the review... we can surely discuss them and compare them to those of other sites.
If these discussions bring about a bad reputation to GS, then maybe the site needs to do another overhaul their their review system... by that I mean hire some professionals.DoctorBunny

Many people don't agree with the laws in America... Don't like em, go somewhere else or shut up

[QUOTE="lastroxas"]

[QUOTE="batistafan99"]MP3 flopped, get over it and go hype your other titles SheepDoctorBunny

mp3 did not flopped cuz have u seen the critics overall 9.2 i count thatas loztp it got a way better critic review than gears beat that

Funny, I can link you to where it says it is a flop on gamespot easily

what part of overall score u just dont understand 9.2 is not aflop one review from 1 website dont make a game is a flop or not take a look at the overall score

[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="lastroxas"]

[QUOTE="batistafan99"]MP3 flopped, get over it and go hype your other titles Sheeplastroxas

mp3 did not flopped cuz have u seen the critics overall 9.2 i count thatas loztp it got a way better critic review than gears beat that

Funny, I can link you to where it says it is a flop on gamespot easily

what part of overall score u just dont understand 9.2 is not aflop one review from 1 website dont make a game is a flop or not take a look at the overall score

Gamespot hype was AAA, it flopped. You have no idea what the hype was for the other sites. it could have been 9.5, therefor a flop at a lot

[QUOTE="lastroxas"][QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="lastroxas"]

[QUOTE="batistafan99"]MP3 flopped, get over it and go hype your other titles SheepDoctorBunny

mp3 did not flopped cuz have u seen the critics overall 9.2 i count thatas loztp it got a way better critic review than gears beat that

Funny, I can link you to where it says it is a flop on gamespot easily

what part of overall score u just dont understand 9.2 is not aflop one review from 1 website dont make a game is a flop or not take a look at the overall score

Gamespot hype was AAA, it flopped. You have no idea what the hype was for the other sites. it could have been 9.5, therefor a flop at a lot

there is no way i'm reason with a nooob

Meh, we move on. Seriously, does this score bother you that much, that while playing Metroid Prime 3, you constantly say to yourself int he back of your mind. "Oh man, this is so 9.5 worthy! Stupid GS giving it an 8.5, what losers!"

I'm playing the game, loving it, but what does it matter? The score is nothing significant to the game's performance, your enjoyment (or shouldn't be) or any relative factor except for bragging rights on a forum called System Wars and possibly helping one choose what Wii game to buy.

just finished it yesterday. overall, i would give it an 8 tops, maybe 7.5.

lack of multiplayer

waaay too short for a supposed "adventure" game

monstrously too easy.

sitting a minute half the time in front of a door, waiting for the next part to load before the door opens.

context sensitve controls (grappling,etc) sometimes just doesnt work like it should or the button doesnt register altogether.

my favorite ... FAVORITE ... part of the MP3 review, is that Halo is gonna get AAA, and the review is gonna be full of "it's the same halo...THAT WE LOVE!" Srsly, it's gonna be the most hilarous thing to happen to these boards ever.

Actually, i take that back. The most hilarous thing to happen would be if Halo 3 flopped, and the mods didn't go all lock crazy on the boards. It would be Zelda TP all over again. Oh! The humanity!

just finished it yesterday. overall, i would give it an 8 tops, maybe 7.5.

lack of multiplayer

waaay too short for a supposed "adventure" game

monstrously too easy.

sitting a minute half the time in front of a door, waiting for the next part to load before the door opens.

context sensitve controls (grappling,etc) sometimes just doesnt work like it should or the button doesnt register altogether.

mtradr43

they way u said it didnt sound to convincing that u played the game or own it

[QUOTE="mtradr43"]

just finished it yesterday. overall, i would give it an 8 tops, maybe 7.5.

lack of multiplayer

waaay too short for a supposed "adventure" game

monstrously too easy.

sitting a minute half the time in front of a door, waiting for the next part to load before the door opens.

context sensitve controls (grappling,etc) sometimes just doesnt work like it should or the button doesnt register altogether.

lastroxas

they way u said it didnt sound to convincing that u played the game or own it

room mate here at school has a wii, took me 7 and a halfhours to finish on normal, 100 percent completion. most annoying creature? the freakin energy ball things immune to blaster fire that split into two when take enough damage. need i go on?

[QUOTE="lastroxas"][QUOTE="mtradr43"]

just finished it yesterday. overall, i would give it an 8 tops, maybe 7.5.

lack of multiplayer

waaay too short for a supposed "adventure" game

monstrously too easy.

sitting a minute half the time in front of a door, waiting for the next part to load before the door opens.

context sensitve controls (grappling,etc) sometimes just doesnt work like it should or the button doesnt register altogether.

mtradr43

they way u said it didnt sound to convincing that u played the game or own it

room mate here at school has a wii, took me 7 and a halfhours to finish on normal, 100 percent completion. most annoying creature? the freakin energy ball things immune to blaster fire that split into two when take enough damage. need i go on?

[QUOTE="mtradr43"][QUOTE="lastroxas"][QUOTE="mtradr43"]

just finished it yesterday. overall, i would give it an 8 tops, maybe 7.5.

lack of multiplayer

waaay too short for a supposed "adventure" game

monstrously too easy.

sitting a minute half the time in front of a door, waiting for the next part to load before the door opens.

context sensitve controls (grappling,etc) sometimes just doesnt work like it should or the button doesnt register altogether.

AntiType

they way u said it didnt sound to convincing that u played the game or own it

room mate here at school has a wii, took me 7 and a halfhours to finish on normal, 100 percent completion. most annoying creature? the freakin energy ball things immune to blaster fire that split into two when take enough damage. need i go on?

i believe thats when you take the fuel cell out and grab the multi missile upgrade, which lets them all out.

[QUOTE="AntiType"]Very Important:
Just because someone is posting on a GS forums does not mean he/she agrees/cares about GS's reviews. If you come in and try to tell him/her that it flopped... and link GS's review... then you just look like a mindless idot who prolly needs your mother to pick your clothes out for you.
Since this is a GS forum... its the perfect place to discuss the quality of the site and reviews. If there are contradictions and mistakes in the review... we can surely discuss them and compare them to those of other sites.
If these discussions bring about a bad reputation to GS, then maybe the site needs to do another overhaul their their review system... by that I mean hire some professionals.DoctorBunny

Many people don't agree with the laws in America... Don't like em, go somewhere else or shut up

mindless americans...:lol:

just finished it yesterday. overall, i would give it an 8 tops, maybe 7.5.

lack of multiplayer

waaay too short for a supposed "adventure" game

monstrously too easy.

sitting a minute half the time in front of a door, waiting for the next part to load before the door opens.

context sensitve controls (grappling,etc) sometimes just doesnt work like it should or the button doesnt register altogether.

mtradr43

Believe it or not, bumping the difficulty to hard and playing without any hints (Online or In Game) dramatically increases the time of play, and most definately makes it a more "adventure" game. But, to each his own. I bet some of you pups couldn't handle playing most games without a giant "GO HERE" arrow like most games have nowadays.

And on a side note, I have never had a problem with the context sensitive controls while i've been playing it. But, I play sitting on the edge of my couch with nothing inbetween me and the TV. I guess if I sat back and tried to play lazily it wouldn't register right.

Everyone who's played Metroid knows. it's an AAA game.

Smoke_ManMuscle

Except for GS obviously.

I own it, and honestly It just made me miss playing shooetrs with a controller (two analog sticks etc etc.) I'm just sick of my wii all i play is wii play and wii sports now, and I think that party games such as these are the only games I enjoy thi wii mote with. I love my wii but I just kind of want to play games like metroid with a controller that is not the wii mote. I really hope nintendo comes out with a controller that is just a regular one besides the retro. Innovation is cool but it kind of ruins games like metroid 3 and LOZ: TP (liked it better on the game cube) for me anyway.

[QUOTE="AntiType"][QUOTE="mtradr43"][QUOTE="lastroxas"][QUOTE="mtradr43"]

just finished it yesterday. overall, i would give it an 8 tops, maybe 7.5.

lack of multiplayer

waaay too short for a supposed "adventure" game

monstrously too easy.

sitting a minute half the time in front of a door, waiting for the next part to load before the door opens.

context sensitve controls (grappling,etc) sometimes just doesnt work like it should or the button doesnt register altogether.

mtradr43

they way u said it didnt sound to convincing that u played the game or own it

room mate here at school has a wii, took me 7 and a halfhours to finish on normal, 100 percent completion. most annoying creature? the freakin energy ball things immune to blaster fire that split into two when take enough damage. need i go on?

i believe thats when you take the fuel cell out and grab the multi missile upgrade, which lets them all out.

[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="lastroxas"][QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="lastroxas"]

[QUOTE="batistafan99"]MP3 flopped, get over it and go hype your other titles Sheeplastroxas

mp3 did not flopped cuz have u seen the critics overall 9.2 i count thatas loztp it got a way better critic review than gears beat that

Funny, I can link you to where it says it is a flop on gamespot easily

what part of overall score u just dont understand 9.2 is not aflop one review from 1 website dont make a game is a flop or not take a look at the overall score

Gamespot hype was AAA, it flopped. You have no idea what the hype was for the other sites. it could have been 9.5, therefor a flop at a lot

there is no way i'm reason with a nooob

Then how do you live with yourself?