Metro Last Light had the worst development conditions in all of gaming

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#101 heeweesRus
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]roflMichael0134567

No.

Cmon, you exist soley for FreedomFreak's amusment. No get on your knees and get him his shoes :twisted:

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#102 jhonMalcovich
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Ukraine is a poor country, the same goes to Russia. Well it's not really poor, but bad environment treatment. They should move to another country and develop their games safetly.

lilnazar

Russia is not poor dumb ass. And Ukraine is relatively a safe country. They should stay where they are because everyone should belong to its own place.

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#103 silversix_
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Now imagine what they and Valve could do to HL3 with a big budget.
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#104 crimsonman1245
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Just played the game for about 2 hours....it sure doesnt seem like a low budget game, good job Deep Silver, i hope your working conditions improve with the success of this game.

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#105 lightleggy
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sounds pretty intense.
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#106 Tessellation
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Man a game with millions and years to polish like GT5 with hundreds of developers managed to score an 8 :( and these humble guys made a master piece working in that conditions.

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#108 Tessellation
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Ukraine is a poor country, the same goes to Russia. Well it's not really poor, but bad environment treatment. They should move to another country and develop their games safetly.

lilnazar
Russia poor? been there so many times considering that i used to live in Finland so i visited 2 times per year and Russia is not poor--,the government is what doesn't let the country be what is suppose to be.
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#109 deactivated-660c2894dc19c
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Makes you think what the hell other devs are doing with all that time and money.

"Their whole game cost less than some game's cutscenes" That's just ridiculous really. 

seanmcloughlin

It's easy considering how low the cost of employment is in Ukraine compared to USA, Western Europe or Japan.

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#110 Basinboy
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Dobro pozhalovat na ukrainoo...suki.

In former Soviet Union, b**ches don't eat.  Work or die, just like Father Stalin taught us.  

And it could be worse - you could live in Gulag in Siberia.

(FYI, I've lived in Ukraine)

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#111 ChubbyGuy40
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Was this posted yet? The conditions weren't that bad.

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#112 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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Just played the game for about 2 hours....it sure doesnt seem like a low budget game, good job Deep Silver, i hope your working conditions improve with the success of this game.

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#113 topgunmv
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Was this posted yet? The conditions weren't that bad.

ChubbyGuy40

...That looked perfectly fine.

I guess not having their own personal gym is "roughing it" in the game industry now.

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#114 DragonfireXZ95
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That's amazing at what they were able to accomplish under such conditions.
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#115 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Was this posted yet? The conditions weren't that bad.

topgunmv

...That looked perfectly fine.

I guess not having their own personal gym is "roughing it" in the game industry now.

Have you seen Treyarch's or Infinity Ward's studio? They look like Ceaser's Palace compared to this.
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#116 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Was this posted yet? The conditions weren't that bad.

topgunmv

...That looked perfectly fine.

I guess not having their own personal gym is "roughing it" in the game industry now.

and $900 chairs, althought I he does have a point. You shouldn't have to use foldout chairs were you work.

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#117 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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Goes to show that these whiners who want to complain about huge development costs need to seriously trim the fat.
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#118 Cherokee_Jack
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Was this posted yet? The conditions weren't that bad.

ChubbyGuy40

The work space doesn't look terrible, but that doesn't mean everything was rosy for them either. They don't show the power outages and shit in the video.

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#119 AcidThunder
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kudos to them
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#120 lamprey263
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I didn't realize people in Ukraine had it so good.
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#121 Wiiyou
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It is no excuse, bad game is a bad game:|

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#122 StrongBlackVine
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They earned my respect. You don't $100 millon dollars to make a good game with top notch graphics. The indsutry should take note....

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#123 Armoured_Mage
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people shouldnt buy this game, it promotes poor working conditions and by buying it you are only encouraging the bosses o keep the conditions.

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#124 StrongBlackVine
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people shouldnt buy this game, it promotes poor working conditions and by buying it you are only encouraging the bosses o keep the conditions.

Armoured_Mage

I'm not buying it regardless, but what you said is dumb.

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#125 Crazyguy105
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Glad they finished the game, hope they get all the money they spent back and can relax in a good holiday... i'll pick the game up once it gets a major price drop

finalstar2007

You want them to recoup their money and yet you won't even buy the game until it drops drastically? :? that's some weird POV you got there

Yup, there are other games that are worth full price than this.. not saying its bad by not buying it day 1 but i dont want to play another FPS.

YET YOU WILL BUY. THE NEXT. CALL OF DUTY. ON RELEASE DAY.

I'm sorry, I just really hope you get banned at some point. Your posts have gotten to me over the years.

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#126 CanYouDiglt
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Was this posted yet? The conditions weren't that bad.

DragonfireXZ95

...That looked perfectly fine.

I guess not having their own personal gym is "roughing it" in the game industry now.

Have you seen Treyarch's or Infinity Ward's studio? They look like Ceaser's Palace compared to this.

Just because one company has it better does not mean the other one has it bad. From the video it was fine where they were.
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#127 CanYouDiglt
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

You want them to recoup their money and yet you won't even buy the game until it drops drastically? :? that's some weird POV you got there

Crazyguy105

Yup, there are other games that are worth full price than this.. not saying its bad by not buying it day 1 but i dont want to play another FPS.

YET YOU WILL BUY. THE NEXT. CALL OF DUTY. ON RELEASE DAY.

I'm sorry, I just really hope you get banned at some point. Your posts have gotten to me over the years.

Why does it bother you so much that he enjoys CoD? He got his FPS fix with CoD so he is not interested in playing another FPS.
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#128 lilnazar
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Ukraine is a poor country, the same goes to Russia. Well it's not really poor, but bad environment treatment. They should move to another country and develop their games safetly.

Tessellation
Russia poor? been there so many times considering that i used to live in Finland so i visited 2 times per year and Russia is not poor--,the government is what doesn't let the country be what is suppose to be.

Well it's not really poor. But the goverment is shit.
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#129 jg4xchamp
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So the next time somone bashes the game just think a little about what they had to go through to make it

seanmcloughlin

The f*ck out of here.

I don't care if you moved mountains, parted the sea, and shoot lighning out of your ass. If your game is boring or underwhelming it's f*cking boring or underwhelming. And no amount of "hardship" or "hur dur our job was so hard compared to our competitors" is gonna change that. At the end of the day the only thing I care about is how effective that game was at what it wanted to do. How you went about in creating it? save that shit for some sap who buys into that nonsense.

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#130 sukraj
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Enjoyed Metro 2033 but i won't buy the game since they made hard mode DLC

for all i care, i hope they go bankruptcy

Zurrur

thats a bit harsh dont u think.

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#131 Goyoshi12
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

 

So the next time somone bashes the game just think a little about what they had to go through to make it

jg4xchamp

The f*ck out of here.

I don't care if you moved mountains, parted the sea, and shoot lighning out of your ass. If your game is boring or underwhelming it's f*cking boring or underwhelming. And no amount of "hardship" or "hur dur our job was so hard compared to our competitors" is gonna change that. At the end of the day the only thing I care about is how effective that game was at what it wanted to do. How you went about in creating it? save that shit for some sap who buys into that nonsense.

Sounds like they got a sap in here.

Several.

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#132 hippiesanta
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THis is what Happen when a game was develope in eastern block
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#133 GarGx1
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Sounds like they created the game while working in a post apocalyptic underground ;)

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#134 skrat_01
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'worst in all of gaming' I dunno. But that's pretty amazing, gosh considering that it's a Triple A ****Ing game. My hat off to the developers. Makes me want to buy the game now instead of waiting a while.
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#135 jer_1
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Man, that's pretty depressing. Sorry to hear that these professionals have it like that. 

I might just have to grab a copy of this game now to give a little support, unfortunately it won't be going to the people who actually need it in the company, it'll go to the overpaid dbags at the top I'm sure.

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#136 jhonMalcovich
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Sounds like they created the game while working in a post apocalyptic underground ;)

GarGx1

Sounds like they have a scrooge dev studio owner. They certainly don´t sell their game for 5 rubles, but for 50 us dollars. So to where all the money goes. 

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#137 heeweesRus
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

 

So the next time somone bashes the game just think a little about what they had to go through to make it

jg4xchamp

The f*ck out of here.

I don't care if you moved mountains, parted the sea, and shoot lighning out of your ass. If your game is boring or underwhelming it's f*cking boring or underwhelming. And no amount of "hardship" or "hur dur our job was so hard compared to our competitors" is gonna change that. At the end of the day the only thing I care about is how effective that game was at what it wanted to do. How you went about in creating it? save that shit for some sap who buys into that nonsense.

Damn, Seanmcloughin destroyed :lol:
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#138 Cherokee_Jack
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Man, that's pretty depressing. Sorry to hear that these professionals have it like that. 

I might just have to grab a copy of this game now to give a little support, unfortunately it won't be going to the people who actually need it in the company, it'll go to the overpaid dbags at the top I'm sure.

jer_1
If the overpaid d-bags at the top don't get enough of that money as a return on their investment in Metro, it will be 4A who suffers.
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#139 dommeus
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Well they gots my money, so lets hope that their next game will be made in a building

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#140 The_Stand_In
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It is no excuse, bad game is a bad game:|

Wiiyou

Except the game is not bad. At all. And I'm willing to bet money that you've never even played it.

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#141 freedomfreak  Online
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[QUOTE="Wiiyou"]

It is no excuse, bad game is a bad game:|

The_Stand_In

Except the game is not bad. At all. And I'm willing to bet money that you've never even played it.

It's garbage.
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#142 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"]

Immense respect to them.  They made a 9.0 game like that?  Damn, let's move these guys into a cushy heated building and see what they can pull off!

seanmcloughlin

Makes you think what the hell other devs are doing with all that time and money.

"Their whole game cost less than some game's cutscenes" That's just ridiculous really. 

We can thank big name publishers for just pissing money into the wind and not into places it should be throw....and in less quantity

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#143 Jynxzor
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Was this posted yet? The conditions weren't that bad.ChubbyGuy40
The hell they have a more spacious office than I work in...terrible conditions indeed!
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#144 bobbetybob
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people shouldnt buy this game, it promotes poor working conditions and by buying it you are only encouraging the bosses o keep the conditions.

Armoured_Mage
It's a different country and having watched the video chubby posted it seems like it's just the guy who used to work at gigantic LA based studio Naughty Dog exaggerating. Gaming is a big budget business, most of the Western studios make your standard office block look like a chicken coop, of course a smaller studio, in a poorer country, with a much smaller gaming industry is going to seem bad to him.
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#145 Wiiyou
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[QUOTE="Wiiyou"]

It is no excuse, bad game is a bad game:|

The_Stand_In

Except the game is not bad. At all. And I'm willing to bet money that you've never even played it.

No i dont know if it is a bad game, i have not played it. I mean i don't want buy any bad game just because developers have had bad conditions.

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#146 yellosnolvr
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[QUOTE="SexyJazzCat"]Wow. Sounds rough. Imagine what they could achieve with a bigger budget and better conditions.R4gn4r0k

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#147 ReadingRainbow4
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I love how these guys put to shame almost every studio with a budget that was frankly shoe string compared to many AAA studio's.

Bioshock infinite took $200 million to make or something? How the hell did that help the game in any way aside from advertising.

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#148 AmazonTreeBoa
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[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"]There are women in Asia who have to strain their eyes looking through microscopes for 12 hours a day and lose their site in just a matter of a couple years. Boo f*ckin hoo. mastershake575

I hate this child like mentality ("there's worse places in the world so that means you can't complain/comment about your situation regardless if its bad or not...... :roll: ).

Last I checked the developers weren't really complaining. They where mearly describing the situation and user here were giving them praise for still making a good product regardless (keep your kiddie rants to yourself).

Some people are just too stupid for their own good.
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#149 Cherokee_Jack
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Bioshock infinite took $200 million to make or something? How the hell did that help the game in any way aside from advertising.ReadingRainbow4

Advertising for AAA releases costs a hell of a lot. There's also testing and focus groups. 

The more expectations are riding on a game, the more a publisher is going to spend to protect their investment. Amenities for the dev team are probably not very high on their shopping list.

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#150 ReadingRainbow4
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[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]Bioshock infinite took $200 million to make or something? How the hell did that help the game in any way aside from advertising.Cherokee_Jack

Advertising for AAA releases costs a hell of a lot. There's also testing and focus groups.

The more expectations are riding on a game, the more a publisher is going to spend to protect their investment. Amenities for the dev team are probably not very high on their shopping list.

Yeah I get that it most likely went into advertising and testing, I just wish the game had more effort put into it for the budget they had. Art assets were very good but the core game was such an incredible bore. It was all Flash.

It felt so so lazy. That's the perfect word for it actually, lazy.

Just goes to show that a large budget doesn't guarantee something amazing I guess.