Metroid Prime 3 --- possible signs of AA and not AAA

im shure this game will be grate and get grate reviews every were but here.

GameSpot is lazy about this stuff, plain and simple. Their Wii coverage has so far been nothing but atrocious, and it's nobody's fault but their own. This is not a claim of anti-Wii bias, this is me simply saying that something is up their ass and making them not give a damn about anything that's Wii related. Just read the preview, then compare it to the IGN preview. It's not even about the negativity, it's about the lethargy and the bland, vague ideas that they don't even expand upon. If we gamers just went by what we read from GameSpot, we'd never know about any the new features they've added. I've already outlined all this and made direct comparisons in my latest GameSpot blog.

It makes me sick. But for the record, GameSpot does not value originality. If it did, Halo 3 wouldn't have its own freaking launch center while the third game in a series that is rated the #3 game of all time on Game Rankings (which is half a dozen places higher than Halo 1; Metroid Prime 1) gets a one-page preview from a guy who sounds like he never even played the game.

There's no excuse for it.

CaptainDingo

Gamespot values gamer traffic to their website. If there wasn't a Halo 3 launch center, there might be less traffic to Gamespot. Gamespot wants to capitalize on the ridiculous droves of people who want Halo 3.MP2 didn't even sell 1/8 of what Halo 2 sold. If MP3 had the popularity and hype Halo 3 is getting, there would be a MP3 launch center as well.

Gamespots previews are ALWAYS wishy-washy. I hate them. You think a game is going to turn out being AAA and BAM! 8.5. I honestly dont care for gamespot scores anymore. IGN is the place i'll be going for ALL reviews now.

based on the fact that they gave TP and SPM 8.8 (games that were essentially GC efforts moved over; leading to the things they complained about the most) they almost have to give MP3 a 9 atleast.

It's consistency. If games that are lengthy adventures which happen to fall victim to the shortcomings of last gen (voice acting, control, graphics, etc.) a game that is built for Wii and pushes the hardware more than any game before it HAS to score a 9 atleast. Remember, they judge against potential and other available software on the platform.

where are you guys getting this samus is not speaking thing from? i remember reading an artical near wii launch saying that some famous actor is going to do her voice(i forgot which 1 though).

[QUOTE="Vampyronight"]

[QUOTE="BigGimp77"]IGN said review will vary from "8.8-10" if you listen to thier Wii-k in review podcast. Thier review is dropping Sunday at midnight. Im guessing between 9.3-9.6. And I dont think your points are valid. 1. One person doesn't have voice acting big whoop. 2. They only played on one sensitivity setting. Go listen the the Wii-k In review podcast when they talk about how AWESOME the controls are. Because unlike gamespots preview they played on the better setting. 3. I doubt that will effect the review rating much.enduin

Just a small point about number 2 on your list- CheapyD from CAG has called out IGN over those control remarks, saying that the controls aren't nearly as good as IGN says.

I'm not saying that means MP3 has terrible controls, just that there are people who have played the game that don't think it works nearly as well.

Oh no, you got me all wrong there.

All I meant to say is that the control scheme isn't universally hailed as amazing and close to kb/m. If the Gamespot reviewr shares a similar opinion of CheapyD rather than Matt (good, but not great), then I think it stands a much better chance of scoring sub-AAA.

I'm definately not saying that CheapyD's opinion means more than Matt's- just that Matt's isn't universal.

I'vesaid it this all along. Metroid Prime 3doesn't differentiate itself enough from other Metroid Prime games to get AAA.

I think my predictions will be correct after all.

I'vesaid it this all along. Metroid Prime 3doesn't differentiate itself enough from other Metroid Prime games to get AAA.

I think my predictions will be correct after all.

dracula_16

not here on gamespot. It'll get a good score mostly everywhere else, at least i think. Prime 3 does different from its predecessors, but not a lot. But it is a trilogy. You shouldn't be expecting it to change drastically...

[QUOTE="enduin"][QUOTE="Vampyronight"]

[QUOTE="BigGimp77"]IGN said review will vary from "8.8-10" if you listen to thier Wii-k in review podcast. Thier review is dropping Sunday at midnight. Im guessing between 9.3-9.6. And I dont think your points are valid. 1. One person doesn't have voice acting big whoop. 2. They only played on one sensitivity setting. Go listen the the Wii-k In review podcast when they talk about how AWESOME the controls are. Because unlike gamespots preview they played on the better setting. 3. I doubt that will effect the review rating much.Vampyronight

Just a small point about number 2 on your list- CheapyD from CAG has called out IGN over those control remarks, saying that the controls aren't nearly as good as IGN says.

I'm not saying that means MP3 has terrible controls, just that there are people who have played the game that don't think it works nearly as well.

Oh no, you got me all wrong there.

All I meant to say is that the control scheme isn't universally hailed as amazing and close to kb/m. If the Gamespot reviewr shares a similar opinion of CheapyD rather than Matt (good, but not great), then I think it stands a much better chance of scoring sub-AAA.

I'm definately not saying that CheapyD's opinion means more than Matt's- just that Matt's isn't universal.

Fair enough. You cant expect everyone to completely love it, but for me at least when it come to Matt I have found my preferences generally fall in line with his own. Despite his sarcasm and exaggeration I trust him much more than many other journalists out there. Jeff and the GS guys, especially on Wii games, have been extremelly hit or miss with me on game reviews in the past two years.

Taken from Gamespot preview

1. "The addition of voice acting--and lots of it--also seems fine, but we doubt we'll get a chance to hear Samus herself speak."

Ok, doesn't seem negative does it? Read between the lines. Remember the Twilight Princess review? One of the "negatives" about TP (according to Jeff G.) was that it didn't have full voice acting. Now, it sounds like Gamespot is predicting "with a little disappointment" that Samus herself won't speak. :roll: Also, the word "fine" doesn't sit well with me. How is the other audio?AvIdGaMeR444

2. "Using the default control scheme, you can freely move the reticle around the screen in this manner, but to turn, you must move your sights all the way to the edge of the screen. This occasionally made for some inconsistent turning. There are other control schemes available however, which allow you to adjust how turning is handled. It's also alleviated by the lock-on system. As long as an enemy is close enough--and in your field of vision--you can hold Z to lock on to it, which makes it easier to focus on your target without worrying about keeping it in view"

This is what worries me some. This game has been tweaked to death and even IGN has said that it rivals FPS PC controls. Then I read this...

Seriously, WTF? Also, Gamespot makes it sound like it is somewhat a pain in the ass to focus on a target and keep it in your field without holding Z to lock onto it.AvIdGaMeR444

3. "The first level ended with a boss fight we'd seen before.

Sounds just like another statement right? No negativity in that right? I think it is an indirect slam though. Here's why. Gamespot has gotten REALLY NITPICKY about originality. I don't know if Metroid Prime 3 can get away with boss fights against some of the same creatures as before. The game might get docked some just for that. Remember people, this is Gamespot and they are harsh.AvIdGaMeR444

Then there is IGN who in their podcast says that other sites will give this game AA.

Also, I've always gotten the feeling that Gamespot just doesn't like the Wii. The most excitement I've ever seen from a Wii review was from Greg Kasavin reviewing Trauma Center...and he's gone now.AvIdGaMeR444

I hope that cleared some stuff up for you. And always remember to read with the CONTEXT in mind.

I hope this is great,but there's a gut feeling that it will be marked down.Everyone agrees that Greg was the best reviewer on GS by miles,because he showed barely any bias.And does anyone think the Jeff only gave Wario an AAA because of TP?Greyhound222

There's been something fishy with some of the reviews since 2004.

1. Halo 2 scored a 9.1. The score was accidentally put up by one of the Gamespot editors. It was up for like 2 hours. Then it disappeared. Then, like a day later, the "real" score came and it was 9.4. Before the 9.4 came, people were crying left and right at the leaked 9.1 score. Remember that?

2. There is speculation that the review system changed because of all the whiney fanboys to begin with. The supposed "straw that broke the camel's back" was the Twilight Princess score. Many, many sheep actually closed their accounts and cussed out Gamespot. Now, this has happened in the past when high profile games flop, but Gamespot had had enough. So, the review system changed.

3. After the Zelda: TP outcry, when Warioware arrived, Jeff G. mysteriously ends up having a very positive attitude toward Wii and praises the game. It gets a ridiculously high score here and flops almost everywhere else. After Warioware, Jeff's attitude goes back to "blah" toward Wii.

And my prediction...Even if Halo 3 scores 8.0-8.5 everywhere, it will score 9-9.5 here. Why? Gamespot changed the scoring system because of whiney system wars fans. Gamespot changed the scoring system because people were closing their accounts over scores. Gamespot wants money and traffic to their website. If Halo 3 scores AA, you can bet that the diehard Halo fanboys will leave this site for good (as ridiculous as it may be) and Gamespot will lose A LOT of people. They don't have the guts to flop Halo 3. Now, it may very well deserve AAA, but even if it doesn't, Halo 3 will get AAA regardless.

Sorry if this sounds ludicrous or "conspiracy theory-esque", but I really think something is going on with their reviews, especially with high profile games.

[QUOTE="yodariquo"]Tetris DS Preview: The Sky Is Falling! We give the latest handheld Tetris a run for its money and remember why this is still one of the most entertaining games ever made.thriteenthmonke

Was that the entire preview?

I'm not bashing you here, AvId, but I think you may have misinterpreted parts of the preview.[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

Taken from Gamespot preview

1. "The addition of voice acting--and lots of it--also seems fine, but we doubt we'll get a chance to hear Samus herself speak."

Ok, doesn't seem negative does it? Read between the lines. Remember the Twilight Princess review? One of the "negatives" about TP (according to Jeff G.) was that it didn't have full voice acting. Now, it sounds like Gamespot is predicting "with a little disappointment" that Samus herself won't speak. :roll: Also, the word "fine" doesn't sit well with me. How is the other audio?metroidprimegmr

2. "Using the default control scheme, you can freely move the reticle around the screen in this manner, but to turn, you must move your sights all the way to the edge of the screen. This occasionally made for some inconsistent turning. There are other control schemes available however, which allow you to adjust how turning is handled. It's also alleviated by the lock-on system. As long as an enemy is close enough--and in your field of vision--you can hold Z to lock on to it, which makes it easier to focus on your target without worrying about keeping it in view"

This is what worries me some. This game has been tweaked to death and even IGN has said that it rivals FPS PC controls. Then I read this...

Seriously, WTF? Also, Gamespot makes it sound like it is somewhat a pain in the ass to focus on a target and keep it in your field without holding Z to lock onto it.AvIdGaMeR444

3. "The first level ended with a boss fight we'd seen before.

Sounds just like another statement right? No negativity in that right? I think it is an indirect slam though. Here's why. Gamespot has gotten REALLY NITPICKY about originality. I don't know if Metroid Prime 3 can get away with boss fights against some of the same creatures as before. The game might get docked some just for that. Remember people, this is Gamespot and they are harsh.AvIdGaMeR444

Then there is IGN who in their podcast says that other sites will give this game AA.

Also, I've always gotten the feeling that Gamespot just doesn't like the Wii. The most excitement I've ever seen from a Wii review was from Greg Kasavin reviewing Trauma Center...and he's gone now.AvIdGaMeR444

I hope that cleared some stuff up for you. And always remember to read with the CONTEXT in mind.

The whole preview didn't have any sort of "exciting" feel to it. It was just kinda there. Bioshock scored a 9 here and the preview for that game SEEMED a lot more positive than the MP3 preview. I see what you are saying though. But remember, this is Gamespot, and they are damn picky. I think what I pointed out are indeed negatives in Gamespot's eyes. Sure, you can change the control scheme, but Gamespot has been known to dock off points in games for the default control scheme being less than optimal, EVEN IF the other control schemes are better. It is a negative in their eyes, because you have to "tinker" with the control settings to find the optimal one. They obviously didn't hate the default setting, but they pointed out a few issues with it. Also, they said the voice acting was "fine". Wow, that really sounds positive. :roll: Not even good? Just fine.

[QUOTE="Eponique"]

But if it deserves AAA, then it will still get AA :|

bulletmath

No , the first game is rated more highly than Halo on here. It is regarded as one of the defining moments of last gen. If this game is simply a good (but not great) game it will get AA

I have heard about some issues that could stop this game from being a classic. if they are serious enough it'll rightly stop this game from being AAA

Halo and MP scored the same here buddy.

Too be honest I've been more Pro-IGN, Anti-Gamespot for a a couple months. IGN always seems to have extra stuff like editorials and they're always faster on thier reviews/previews. They also have set-system people doing thier reviews and stuff. So they have people that generally LOVE the Wii, are reviewing the Wii games. Not someone who kinda likes the Wii reviewing important games.

Also the new review system for Gamespot is horrible. And they've been off on a couple big reviews the past couple months. I mean consensus has Bioshock around a 9.7 (97%) and gamespot only gave it a 9 . They just seem to wanna be nit picky.

BigGimp77

I'm gonna have to agree, GS always penalizes for the tiniest things that most wouldn't even really notice. It's like they're looking for faults to score it lower. This review system just isn't working.

[QUOTE="Greyhound222"]I hope this is great,but there's a gut feeling that it will be marked down.Everyone agrees that Greg was the best reviewer on GS by miles,because he showed barely any bias.And does anyone think the Jeff only gave Wario an AAA because of TP?AvIdGaMeR444

There's been something fishy with some of the reviews since 2004.

1. Halo 2 scored a 9.1. The score was accidentally put up by one of the Gamespot editors. It was up for like 2 hours. Then it disappeared. Then, like a day later, the "real" score came and it was 9.4. Before the 9.4 came, people were crying left and right at the leaked 9.1 score. Remember that?

2. There is speculation that the review system changed because of all the whiney fanboys to begin with. The supposed "straw that broke the camel's back" was the Twilight Princess score. Many, many sheep actually closed their accounts and cussed out Gamespot. Now, this has happened in the past when high profile games flop, but Gamespot had had enough. So, the review system changed.

3. After the Zelda: TP outcry, when Warioware arrived, Jeff G. mysteriously ends up having a very positive attitude toward Wii and praises the game. It gets a ridiculously high score here and flops almost everywhere else. After Warioware, Jeff's attitude goes back to "blah" toward Wii.

And my prediction...Even if Halo 3 scores 8.0-8.5 everywhere, it will score 9-9.5 here. Why? Gamespot changed the scoring system because of whiney system wars fans. Gamespot changed the scoring system because people were closing their accounts over scores. Gamespot wants money and traffic to their website. If Halo 3 scores AA, you can bet that the diehard Halo fanboys will leave this site for good (as ridiculous as it may be) and Gamespot will lose A LOT of people. They don't have the guts to flop Halo 3. Now, it may very well deserve AAA, but even if it doesn't, Halo 3 will get AAA regardless.

Sorry if this sounds ludicrous or "conspiracy theory-esque", but I really think something is going on with their reviews, especially with high profile games.

maby you know games are different from each other and thats why they get different scores :| also its a HUMAN BEING reveiwing these games and if jeff was a 360 fanboy he would give all wii games a 1...stupid fanboys

[QUOTE="metroidprimegmr"]I'm not bashing you here, AvId, but I think you may have misinterpreted parts of the preview.[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

Taken from Gamespot preview

1. "The addition of voice acting--and lots of it--also seems fine, but we doubt we'll get a chance to hear Samus herself speak."

Ok, doesn't seem negative does it? Read between the lines. Remember the Twilight Princess review? One of the "negatives" about TP (according to Jeff G.) was that it didn't have full voice acting. Now, it sounds like Gamespot is predicting "with a little disappointment" that Samus herself won't speak. :roll: Also, the word "fine" doesn't sit well with me. How is the other audio?AvIdGaMeR444

2. "Using the default control scheme, you can freely move the reticle around the screen in this manner, but to turn, you must move your sights all the way to the edge of the screen. This occasionally made for some inconsistent turning. There are other control schemes available however, which allow you to adjust how turning is handled. It's also alleviated by the lock-on system. As long as an enemy is close enough--and in your field of vision--you can hold Z to lock on to it, which makes it easier to focus on your target without worrying about keeping it in view"

This is what worries me some. This game has been tweaked to death and even IGN has said that it rivals FPS PC controls. Then I read this...

Seriously, WTF? Also, Gamespot makes it sound like it is somewhat a pain in the ass to focus on a target and keep it in your field without holding Z to lock onto it.AvIdGaMeR444

3. "The first level ended with a boss fight we'd seen before.

Sounds just like another statement right? No negativity in that right? I think it is an indirect slam though. Here's why. Gamespot has gotten REALLY NITPICKY about originality. I don't know if Metroid Prime 3 can get away with boss fights against some of the same creatures as before. The game might get docked some just for that. Remember people, this is Gamespot and they are harsh.AvIdGaMeR444

Then there is IGN who in their podcast says that other sites will give this game AA.

Also, I've always gotten the feeling that Gamespot just doesn't like the Wii. The most excitement I've ever seen from a Wii review was from Greg Kasavin reviewing Trauma Center...and he's gone now.AvIdGaMeR444

I hope that cleared some stuff up for you. And always remember to read with the CONTEXT in mind.

The whole preview didn't have any sort of "exciting" feel to it. It was just kinda there. Bioshock scored a 9 here and the preview for that game SEEMED a lot more positive than the MP3 preview. I see what you are saying though. But remember, this is Gamespot, and they are damn picky. I think what I pointed out are indeed negatives in Gamespot's eyes. Sure, you can change the control scheme, but Gamespot has been known to dock off points in games for the default control scheme being less than optimal, EVEN IF the other control schemes are better. It is a negative in their eyes, because you have to "tinker" with the control settings to find the optimal one. They obviously didn't hate the default setting, but they pointed out a few issues with it. Also, they said the voice acting was "fine". Wow, that really sounds positive. :roll: Not even good? Just fine.

I, myself, personally think this game is going to reach new, even higher levels of KICK-*** previously unknown to mankind... only to be blown out of the water several months later by SSBB. :D

Yeah this is gonna be TP all over again. I predict Sheep account suicides and Jeff will once again receive death threats:P. Kinda sad dont you think.

But whats even sadder is that none of sheep have played it, so how can they pass judgement on the GS' review? So basically, in their (warped) mind regardless if they played it or not its already an AAA, and GS would be wrong and "ignorant" or "unprofessional" if they give it anything that differs from their view...

SpaceDragonMan

The boss fight they'd seen before was from another session they'd had with the game smart guy.irmeleeman5995

Doesn't change the fact that originality is what Gamespot seems to be nitpicky about. There are bosses in MP3 that are going to be the same as in MP2. There are also space pirates in MP3 which were present in MP1 and MP2. That's fine with me. But Gamespot are the ones that seem to be nitpicky screaming "originality"! This could hurt the game's score. We have to take everything into account. The slightest of the slight "negative", and Gamespot docks the score. That is how they operate most of the time.

[QUOTE="irmeleeman5995"]The boss fight they'd seen before was from another session they'd had with the game smart guy.AvIdGaMeR444

Doesn't change the fact that originality is what Gamespot seems to be nitpicky about. There are bosses in MP3 that are going to be the same as in MP2. There are also space pirates in MP3 which were present in MP1 and MP2. That's fine with me. But Gamespot are the ones that seem to be nitpicky screaming "originality"! This could hurt the game's score. We have to take everything into account. The slightest of the slight "negative", and Gamespot docks the score. That is how they operate most of the time.

Precisely. They're always worried about originality. Unless it's a FPS game not on the Wii. Then, originality ceases to matter.

As for MP3, honestly, no one on this forum would be surprised with any score Gamespot gives the game. After Twilight Princess all their credibility has been lost. Normally I agree that fanboys are too crazy, but when you're giving Twilight Princess an 8.8, you know that someone is just throwing you for a loop. I think GS wanted the Wii to fail at the beginning, so they really lowered the scores. 6.8 for Excite Truck? Come on now. No, it's not AAA, but it's not a 6.8. It's just too much fun to get that low of a score.

All in all, I trust IGN reviews. They worry about fun and not so much great technical achievements. I don't play games to watch a movie.

[QUOTE="irmeleeman5995"]The boss fight they'd seen before was from another session they'd had with the game smart guy.AvIdGaMeR444

Doesn't change the fact that originality is what Gamespot seems to be nitpicky about. There are bosses in MP3 that are going to be the same as in MP2. There are also space pirates in MP3 which were present in MP1 and MP2. That's fine with me. But Gamespot are the ones that seem to be nitpicky screaming "originality"! This could hurt the game's score. We have to take everything into account. The slightest of the slight "negative", and Gamespot docks the score. That is how they operate most of the time.

Ya, that's the thing. As Avid said (I believe), where Gamespot complains about originality of MP3 with spacepirates, I doubt gamespot would say EVEN a single word about the grunts and flood or whatever that will be in Halo 3.

Taken from Gamespot preview

1. "The addition of voice acting--and lots of it--also seems fine, but we doubt we'll get a chance to hear Samus herself speak."

Ok, doesn't seem negative does it? Read between the lines. Remember the Twilight Princess review? One of the "negatives" about TP (according to Jeff G.) was that it didn't have full voice acting. Now, it sounds like Gamespot is predicting "with a little disappointment" that Samus herself won't speak. :roll: Also, the word "fine" doesn't sit well with me. How is the other audio?

2. "Using the default control scheme, you can freely move the reticle around the screen in this manner, but to turn, you must move your sights all the way to the edge of the screen. This occasionally made for some inconsistent turning. There are other control schemes available however, which allow you to adjust how turning is handled. It's also alleviated by the lock-on system. As long as an enemy is close enough--and in your field of vision--you can hold Z to lock on to it, which makes it easier to focus on your target without worrying about keeping it in view"

This is what worries me some. This game has been tweaked to death and even IGN has said that it rivals FPS PC controls. Then I read this...

Seriously, WTF? Also, Gamespot makes it sound like it is somewhat a pain in the ass to focus on a target and keep it in your field without holding Z to lock onto it.

3. "The first level ended with a boss fight we'd seen before."

Sounds just like another statement right? No negativity in that right? I think it is an indirect slam though. Here's why. Gamespot has gotten REALLY NITPICKY about originality. I don't know if Metroid Prime 3 can get away with boss fights against some of the same creatures as before. The game might get docked some just for that. Remember people, this is Gamespot and they are harsh.

Then there is IGN who in their podcast says that other sites will give this game AA.

Also, I've always gotten the feeling that Gamespot just doesn't like the Wii. The most excitement I've ever seen from a Wii review was from Greg Kasavin reviewing Trauma Center...and he's gone now.

Take all this into account, and I predict an 8.0-8.5.I will admit ownage if I'm wrong. I'm not bashing the Wii again or anything like that. I'm looking atpossible legitimate reasons why this game may not get AAA.

AvIdGaMeR444

i think you're reading into things a little too much

first off.....gamespot docked scores off zelda for having NO voice acting whatsoever. if the games has voice acting (and lots of it), then there is no reason for gamespot to dock off points in that area. i don't recall my main character in oblivion having any voice acting....yet gamespot didn't hesitate to give that a perfect 10 in sound.

and in terms of the bossfight "we've seen before" - the comment has nothing to do with MP3's originality, and everything to do with the fact that they did indeed play the very same boss battle in a previous demo. i'm assuming they're talking about the ridley battle we've seen footage of since E3 06.

Honestly, I don't care anymore.

Last night I was really up in arms about it, but today I went by Gamestop and paid for the rest of the game (I only paid the minimum $10 when I first reserved it). Though that seems like a minor event, knowing that I've actually bought the game really made by hype meter blow through the roof and past the point of caring about reviews.

I've accepted that Gamespot may give the game an AA rating, whether they are underrating it or it deserves it. All that matters now is that in a few days I will be playing what already looks like an amazing game.

I don't care about GS preview. I played the game today at a gamestop booth, and i was impressed. Although the controls take time to get used to, they work great and feel smooth without lag (I played it on advance). I like the graphics they are an upgrade over all of the Wii games that are out right now and better than the gamecube prime games. The backgroundmusic and level designwere atmospheric as you would expect from metroid games, and the voice acting is solid and defenitly adds to the experiance. I only played like30 minutes but i can tell this game is gonna be awesome. A must buy for metroid and Wii fans.The best thing that made me feel excited about the game is how you interact with the envirnoments...you pull switches and enter codes and push and pull energy cells and stuff, it makes you feel like you are samus.

I am defenitly buying this game after 3 days.

Maybe we should send GameSpot a manual for the Wiimote?

They still don't seem to know how to use it.

Halo and MP scored the same here buddy.

Donkey_Puncher

mp WAS goty chief

It'll get AA, not because it deserves it, but it's GS. Now that many sound like an arrogant statement, but I've enjoyed too many titles that I've found GS have underrated (TP included - I thought it was the best Zelda game ever).

It's getting to the point where these are becoming 'joke' reviews. Bioshock still has an outstanding score but it was marked down because of..................the save points? Even though you could disable them, and had 3 difficulty settings, they're STILL an issue? Ever think that getting rid of them would lose the game's pacing and cause frustration?

Here's my prediction of their breakdown of MP3:

"Good: It's Metroid I guess. There were some cool moments in the game, nice audio and visual effects. Enjoyable story. *random medal*

"Bad: the controls aren't as responsive as they could've been. There were 2 rooms in the game that didn't have missiles that I thought should of. Looks dated."

8.1

i still think its gauranteed AAA look at the facts. its the first big game built from the ground up for controller and truely proves wiis potential for FPS controls. possibly, best in series it will the best looking game on the console by far when released. metroid is a AAA series its polished beyond belief and most likely flat out best game on the console when it comes out. if that isn't enough to score at least as much as warioware and a 3 year cube port then gs reviewers should be fired immediately.---OkeyDokey---

1. Yeah, it is built from the ground up to take advantage of the controls. However, Gamespot still had some minor issues with the default control setting. The other settings may be better, I don't know. But Gamespot usually rates games based on the default control settings. Therefore, changing the control settings (in Gamespot's eyes) is an inconvenience and may be a slight negative to them. Yes, they have been known to be that picky.

2. There is no indication that this is the best Metroid in the series, or best Metroid Prime. We just don't know enough about the game to make that judgment yet.

3.Yes, this looks like the best looking Wii game. However, Gamespot said it looked slightly better than the other Metroid Primes in the preview. Is that enough for a Wii game? It should be...but I don't know how Gamespot is looking at this.

4. Metroid is not an AAA series. Metroid Prime is an AAA series (so far). But Metroid as a whole? There have been AA Metroid games. The majority of Metroid games are AAA though. However, is there even ONE AAA portable Metroid game?

I agree

I think MP3 will score as follows:

IGN: 9.8

GS: 8.5

Well I played the game at EBgames, and I must say that yes... the "normal" control mode isn't great. It's slow and isn't as fast and responsive as the "advanced" mode... which is being said basically right there.

I do not know why the "Normal" mode was made, if it was to try and ease in the casuals, but the "advanced" control method is far superior. Aiming isn't hard and besides I didn't find the need to lock-on all the time in battles. You also just get to circle-strafe and free-aim with the advanced method.

I think it's quite definite to be a AAA game if you ask me.

I'll be shocked if it gets AAA.goodlay

Alright, this may sound dumb as I haven't played Prime or a Wii FPS (eh, the selection..), but why not just lock the Wiimote-wherever it is-to the center of the screen? This is how FPSs have always been, and damn if it isn't pretty perfect.

but to turn, you must move your sights all the way to the edge of the screen

^This just sounds ridiculous to me, I'm sorry.

Well I played the game at EBgames, and I must say that yes... the "normal" control mode isn't great. It's slow and isn't as fast and responsive as the "advanced" mode... which is being said basically right there.

I do not know why the "Normal" mode was made, if it was to try and ease in the casuals, but the "advanced" control method is far superior. Aiming isn't hard and besides I didn't find the need to lock-on all the time in battles. You also just get to circle-strafe and free-aim with the advanced method.

I think it's quite definite to be a AAA game if you ask me.

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But see...that is the problem. Gamespot has been known to rate games lower if the default control setting is lacking EVEN IF the other settings for controls are better. They see it as a slight hindrance by having to change up the controls and see it asa slight developer mistake to put "worse" default controls than other settings. If you go back and read a lot of reviews for games, you'll read this a lot..."Thankfully, the default settings are more than adequate" or something like that. They don't like to "tinker" with control settings, especially when trying to make a deadline for reviewing games. It just slows them down a little. Don't be surprised if the game score suffers a tad because of this.

Okay, I have an idea. Ignore the Gamespot review and just go by Game rankings or the IGN review. Simple as that guys. We all know it's going to get AAA at most sites anyway, so why worry about Gamespot when most of you obviously think the rating system is crap to begin with.coolviper2003

Because in the wonderful, wacky world of system wars, what Gamespot says goes no matter what other sites say. If this game gets10 on all other websites, and gets a 3 here, then the game is really a 3. Gotta love that! :|