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#1 thelastguy
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So after playing the incredible single player, I thought I would try out the MP. One of the first "inconveniences" is taking the time out to make a Konami ID. Is this really necessary? Why could they not keep the online uniform like other games?

Anyway, the second major drawback is the fact that there is no party system. How I am going to organize all my friends into one game? Oh yeah, I have to re-add all my friends again. Despite this major annoyances, I thought I would still give the game a chance.

After playing a couple rounds, the game is unbalanced. People are getting headshots more often than normal kills. There complications between my mic and the game, the maps are stale, getting into a match is confusing.

So ultimately I was disappointed with Metal Gear Online. After the unmatched single player experience, i thought the MP would be at least half as good.

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I find it fun.
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#3 ShaneBeck
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Haven't tried it yet. I don't intend on playing with friends (because none of them own PS3s) so it shouldn't be too big an issue for me. As long as I can CQC a bunch of n00bs, it should be a blast.
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#4 T-Machine99
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I found it an inconvenience to make a whole new account and add all your friends all over. No party system was a problem for me too.
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#5 NinjaSkills247
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It sounds more like you don't like it b/c you suck at it. So you put it down to make yourself feel better. But maybe not.
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#6 dark-warmachine
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I can't say it's mediocre but it's definitly not COD4(one of the best MP game so far, imo)
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#7 f50p90
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It's no CoD4 but it's pretty good... I'd take MGS4's SP with that MP than any other MP game...
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I can't say it's mediocre but it's definitly not COD4(one of the best MP game so far, imo)dark-warmachine

I agree with this. MGO is just a different type of game. It is what is. At least it is not as bad as GTA IV.

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#9 jackvegas21
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I agree. Its okay for a few deathmatches but then it just gets boring. Doesn't have the addcition level that COD4 has.
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#10 thelastguy
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It sounds more like you don't like it b/c you suck at it. So you put it down to make yourself feel better. But maybe not.NinjaSkills247

The core gameplay was not the problem. It was the features or lack there of.

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#11 f50p90
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[QUOTE="dark-warmachine"]I can't say it's mediocre but it's definitly not COD4(one of the best MP game so far, imo)-Renegade

I agree with this. MGO is just a different type of game. It is what is. At least it is not as bad as GTA IV.

Yes GTAIV online is terrible
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Konami shouldn't have force fed it in the MGS4 disc. They should've shipped it seperately at a later time, so they could've worked on it even more. Most people say it felt like it was just a last minute add-on and half baked. But I do have fun with it for like an hour or so everytime I play it.

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[QUOTE="NinjaSkills247"]It sounds more like you don't like it b/c you suck at it. So you put it down to make yourself feel better. But maybe not.jtdawg23

The core gameplay was not the problem. It was the features or lack there of.

I do agree the lack of party system is sad. But you can just make a free battle game and have your friends move to it. It is not that much of a problem.

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#14 thelastguy
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Konami shouldn't have force fed it in the MGS4 disc. They should've shipped it seperately at a later time, so they could've worked on it even more. Most people say it felt like it was just a last minute add-on and half baked. But I do have fun with it for like an hour or so everytime I play it.

ReverseCycology

Yeah, it felt rushed. If the were given more time they could made many improvments.

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Konami shouldn't have force fed it in the MGS4 disc. They should've shipped it seperately at a later time, so they could've worked on it even more. Most people say it felt like it was just a last minute add-on and half baked. But I do have fun with it for like an hour or so everytime I play it.

ReverseCycology

Yeah the online is still fun though.

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#16 0rin
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It sounds more like you don't like it b/c you suck at it. So you put it down to make yourself feel better. But maybe not.NinjaSkills247


I don't get why some people do that. Sure there are things about the game that make it seem unfair, but really, don't you think if "it's so easy to get head shots", then you should be getting just as many headshots? I suck at MGO too, My K/D ratio is just barely teetering at 1.0 (sometimes above, currently around 20 kills over deaths, but sometimes I have a few really bad games, and it drops below 1.0. Thats not "happy time" for me.)

but why diss the game? if you don't like it, you don't like it. fine. personal preference. that doesn't make it a bad game. If it weren't any good, not nearly as many people would be playing it as there are now. and considering the tedium involved in registering, i'm surprised there are as many people as there are. (which really isn't a whole lot, but theres always a game to join)

I just wish more people would play, and I want some more maps (the 5 maps are mostly all fun and stuff.. but they are starting to wear out), and I want to be able to change my outfit! lol.
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#17 yoshi_64
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MGO has some balance issues. Headshots are just so easy, auto-aim is useless and there are some animation tricks that just make it even worse. Like reloading and diving? Or how about the dive and it's massive hit box? Or when in a box and an enemy runs by your cover is blown when they just tap you. :|

Anyways the online setup is just dumb too. Lack of unification, I hope In-game XMB will help aid a few things if it can... otherwise though it's just bad anyways... Konami sucks with online service it seems. All MGO games are proof. (Sub, Ops and 4)

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[QUOTE="NinjaSkills247"]It sounds more like you don't like it b/c you suck at it. So you put it down to make yourself feel better. But maybe not.jtdawg23

The core gameplay was not the problem. It was the features or lack there of.

Your topic title is misleading. You had me think that you were talking about the core gameplay.

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[QUOTE="NinjaSkills247"]It sounds more like you don't like it b/c you suck at it. So you put it down to make yourself feel better. But maybe not.0rin


I don't get why some people do that. Sure there are things about the game that make it seem unfair, but really, don't you think if "it's so easy to get head shots", then you should be getting just as many headshots? I suck at MGO too, My K/D ratio is just barely teetering at 1.0 (sometimes above, currently around 20 kills over deaths, but sometimes I have a few really bad games, and it drops below 1.0. Thats not "happy time" for me.)

but why diss the game? if you don't like it, you don't like it. fine. personal preference. that doesn't make it a bad game. If it weren't any good, not nearly as many people would be playing it as there are now. and considering the tedium involved in registering, i'm surprised there are as many people as there are. (which really isn't a whole lot, but theres always a game to join)

I just wish more people would play, and I want some more maps (the 5 maps are mostly all fun and stuff.. but they are starting to wear out), and I want to be able to change my outfit! lol.

I think it's the balancing issues that bring it down.

Personally I'm not bad at all with the game. I have a pretty good K/D spread right now, it's probably 100 or more higher than my deaths. (My kills) Yet I can't remember since I can't even play the game right now because my PS3 is in for repairs, but frankly the thing has some bad balancing.

A person can waste a clip into a guy and he still lives yet one headshot and he's down. The SOP system is something not many seem to catch onto at times and I see the potential in it, but it's also ruined by the lack of communication do to not everyone having a headset unfortunately. Yet the game makes communicating hard with it's tiny sized font for names and bad font ****that meshes together anyways.

Lastly the game just feels incomplete at times, and the micro transactions currently availible are ludicrous for what they ask. I'm not hopeful about future DLC if they nickel and dime ya for preset commands :|

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#20 thelastguy
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[QUOTE="jtdawg23"]

[QUOTE="NinjaSkills247"]It sounds more like you don't like it b/c you suck at it. So you put it down to make yourself feel better. But maybe not.dark-warmachine

The core gameplay was not the problem. It was the features or lack there of.

Your topic title is misleading. You had me think that you were talking about the core gameplay.

If you read my post then it wouldn't be ;)

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I think its cool
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It's fun sometimes, but I absolutely despise Deathmatch and the map Bloodbath. The game mode by itself is already horribly unbalanced having people spawn right behind you at times, the Bloodbath is just plain and simple a horrible map, I can't believe those two things were allowed to ship in the state they are in.
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So after playing the incredible single player, I thought I would try out the MP. One of the first "inconveniences" is taking the time out to make a Konami ID. Is this really necessary? Why could they not keep the online uniform like other games?

Anyway, the second major drawback is the fact that there is no party system. How I am going to organize all my friends into one game? Oh yeah, I have to re-add all my friends again. Despite this major annoyances, I thought I would still give the game a chance.

After playing a couple rounds, the game is unbalanced. People are getting headshots more often than normal kills. There complications between my mic and the game, the maps are stale, getting into a match is confusing.

So ultimately I was disappointed with Metal Gear Online. After the unmatched single player experience, i thought the MP would be at least half as good.

jtdawg23

Yeah man i agree with everything your saying.

The whole Konami id thing was really pointless and just a waste of time,they should've made it like most mp games,turn it on,pick a team and a gun and just start playing.

The maps are so boring and small and the game is really unbalanced.However i didnt have a problem with my mic but just like always no one else had mics so i couldnt talk to anyone.And like you sad no party mode so i can get all my friends on one team and its actually hard just to get a friend in the room with you.

I only played MGO once and the one time i played it i got so bored.Its not enough to make you wanna come back and keep,it doesnt have those WOW moments like Halo 3,CoD4 or GeoW,like you cant get crazy kills and do crazy stuff in MGO like you can in other MP games.

Overall MGO is just wack,MGS4 single player is sick but MGO is just trash.

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Were people expecting a Counter-Strike killer...?
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#25 thelastguy
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Were people expecting a Counter-Strike killer...?MrGrimFandango

I was expecting at least a decent online experience. With standard features.

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So after playing the incredible single player, I thought I would try out the MP. One of the first "inconveniences" is taking the time out to make a Konami ID. Is this really necessary? Why could they not keep the online uniform like other games?

Anyway, the second major drawback is the fact that there is no party system. How I am going to organize all my friends into one game? Oh yeah, I have to re-add all my friends again. Despite this major annoyances, I thought I would still give the game a chance.

After playing a couple rounds, the game is unbalanced. People are getting headshots more often than normal kills. There complications between my mic and the game, the maps are stale, getting into a match is confusing.

So ultimately I was disappointed with Metal Gear Online. After the unmatched single player experience, i thought the MP would be at least half as good.

jtdawg23

kojima should have crammed CGI cutscenes into the online. then it would have been hailed a masterpiece lol.

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#27 ukillwegrill
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For me it was like GTA'S online multiplayer, amazing at first, but then the novalty wore off and i was letf feeling bored and slightly aroused(obviously for un-related issues)
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Its like Crysis... amazing singleplayer but very average online.
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#29 AntiType
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I hated it the first time I played it... not so much now, I like it.

Getting the ID was so annoying, and the moment I logged in, I could see this was so microtransaction Trojan horse

I agree with the balance... Weaken headshots and have body hits count for more then it does.

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It sounds more like you don't like it b/c you suck at it. So you put it down to make yourself feel better. But maybe not.NinjaSkills247

Did you even bother reading what he wrote?

why should he make a new acc and not be able to invite friends? that's lame.

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[QUOTE="jtdawg23"]

So after playing the incredible single player, I thought I would try out the MP. One of the first "inconveniences" is taking the time out to make a Konami ID. Is this really necessary? Why could they not keep the online uniform like other games?

Anyway, the second major drawback is the fact that there is no party system. How I am going to organize all my friends into one game? Oh yeah, I have to re-add all my friends again. Despite this major annoyances, I thought I would still give the game a chance.

After playing a couple rounds, the game is unbalanced. People are getting headshots more often than normal kills. There complications between my mic and the game, the maps are stale, getting into a match is confusing.

So ultimately I was disappointed with Metal Gear Online. After the unmatched single player experience, i thought the MP would be at least half as good.

L1qu1dSword

kojima should have crammed CGI cutscenes into the online. then it would have been hailed a masterpiece lol.



Kojima never even uses CGI in Metal Gear Solid. Wow, you've proven that you've never played any of them.


What happened to your bet? Get out.
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thats the problem of most games this gen.

theres mulitplayer just for the sake of it

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I overall enjoyed the game, and If the seperate version is released in North America (its coming to Japan in like July-August) I will buy that.
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[QUOTE="0rin"][QUOTE="NinjaSkills247"]It sounds more like you don't like it b/c you suck at it. So you put it down to make yourself feel better. But maybe not.yoshi_64



I don't get why some people do that. Sure there are things about the game that make it seem unfair, but really, don't you think if "it's so easy to get head shots", then you should be getting just as many headshots? I suck at MGO too, My K/D ratio is just barely teetering at 1.0 (sometimes above, currently around 20 kills over deaths, but sometimes I have a few really bad games, and it drops below 1.0. Thats not "happy time" for me.)

but why diss the game? if you don't like it, you don't like it. fine. personal preference. that doesn't make it a bad game. If it weren't any good, not nearly as many people would be playing it as there are now. and considering the tedium involved in registering, i'm surprised there are as many people as there are. (which really isn't a whole lot, but theres always a game to join)

I just wish more people would play, and I want some more maps (the 5 maps are mostly all fun and stuff.. but they are starting to wear out), and I want to be able to change my outfit! lol.

I think it's the balancing issues that bring it down.

Personally I'm not bad at all with the game. I have a pretty good K/D spread right now, it's probably 100 or more higher than my deaths. (My kills) Yet I can't remember since I can't even play the game right now because my PS3 is in for repairs, but frankly the thing has some bad balancing.

A person can waste a clip into a guy and he still lives yet one headshot and he's down. The SOP system is something not many seem to catch onto at times and I see the potential in it, but it's also ruined by the lack of communication do to not everyone having a headset unfortunately. Yet the game makes communicating hard with it's tiny sized font for names and bad font ****that meshes together anyways.

Lastly the game just feels incomplete at times, and the micro transactions currently availible are ludicrous for what they ask. I'm not hopeful about future DLC if they nickel and dime ya for preset commands :|

I agree there are a few balancing issues, but the game more than makes up for it.

I like it because it's different from most other online games, sure I have CoD4 and whatnot for my FPS fix, but if I feel like playing something different I slide in my disc of MGS4.

I love the game, and I don't see why so many people bash it.. Oh well, you guys are missing out on the fun which i'm having :P

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[QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]Were people expecting a Counter-Strike killer...?jtdawg23

I was expecting at least a decent online experience. With standard features.

That's what you get. :|

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I will never play it.
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#37 beast667
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I don't have any plans on playing it. I tried MGO when they packed it in with Subsistence, and there is no way I will try it again.
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#38 Bread_or_Decide
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Yeah I played the beta and it was okay. Really can't be bothered with it now since the single player is so much fun. I'd rather just replay the single player game then waste time mastering the online.
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#39 Bread_or_Decide
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thats the problem of most games this gen.

theres mulitplayer just for the sake of it

jaisimar_chelse

I blame Halo for making Multiplayer more important than single player. GTAIV and MGS4 prove that multiplayer for its own sake is not worth it.

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Casuals shouldnt be playing hardcore games.
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#41 finalfantasy94
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thats the problem of most games this gen.

theres mulitplayer just for the sake of it

jaisimar_chelse

Well MGO was in MGS3S and people loved it therefore they made MGO2 for MGS4.

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#42 jaisimar_chelse
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[QUOTE="jaisimar_chelse"]

thats the problem of most games this gen.

theres mulitplayer just for the sake of it

Bread_or_Decide

I blame Halo for making Multiplayer more important than single player. GTAIV and MGS4 prove that multiplayer for its own sake is not worth it.

hopefully there are still devs out there whu thiunk sp is more imp. valve and those max payne devs are a few to name

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#43 DragonFlyJ
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It takes too many bullets to kill. For a stealth game, you would think the lesser amount of damage it takes to kill the more people will hide(camp). Too much gun-ho. Not enoungh stealth tactics. No need to work as a team when it takes 3 clips to take me down.
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#44 Solid_Snake_7
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TC, I couldn't agree more. Every issue you mentioned i completely agree with you. I've played maybe 10 or more games and i still can't feel comfortable with it.
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#45 CubanBlunt
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It feel just like Metal Gear 3's on-line. Its kool with me, but I didnt buy the game for the on-line.
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#46 beast667
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="jaisimar_chelse"]

thats the problem of most games this gen.

theres mulitplayer just for the sake of it

jaisimar_chelse

I blame Halo for making Multiplayer more important than single player. GTAIV and MGS4 prove that multiplayer for its own sake is not worth it.

hopefully there are still devs out there whu thiunk sp is more imp. valve and those max payne devs are a few to name

I'll throw Naughty dog in there, they could have easily threw in some crappy deathmatch with Uncharted, thank god they didn't :)
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#47 waynehead895
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If it's anything like MG3's online, then I would have a problem with the controls. Not kool for a MP game IMO. Though there were some fun moments in MG3's online, it wasn't something I would spend countless hours on.
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#48 waynehead895
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[QUOTE="jaisimar_chelse"]

thats the problem of most games this gen.

theres mulitplayer just for the sake of it

Bread_or_Decide

I blame Halo for making Multiplayer more important than single player. GTAIV and MGS4 prove that multiplayer for its own sake is not worth it.

Wait why? There were games before it where MP was far superior to SP. And on consoles. Golden Eye I'm looking at you.
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#49 Skooler
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="jaisimar_chelse"]

thats the problem of most games this gen.

theres mulitplayer just for the sake of it

waynehead895

I blame Halo for making Multiplayer more important than single player. GTAIV and MGS4 prove that multiplayer for its own sake is not worth it.

Wait why? There were games before it where MP was far superior to SP. And on consoles. Golden Eye I'm looking at you.

yeah but Halo is an extremely popular series and although they said stuff like "Finish the Fight", its main selling point was its multiplayer, not the singleplayer.

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#50 skirlnik
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I like the game a lot, and I participated in the beta. I agree with a few of your points, but on others I feel you over-exagerate some issues.

Here's another perspective: the Konami ID thing, while a momentary annoyance, has been way overblown. They streamlined the process during the beta, and what's more, they're not the first company to ask you to do something like this. EA games, for a while, required you to set up a separate ID so you could use their servers. Once you've created your ID's, you can forget them for all it matters - the game saves your login information. After that you create your character, which can have any name - mine is my PSN ID.

Separate friend lists: I actually like this. My MGO-playing friends have their MGO ID's in the comment field on the friend list (main XMB) so we can add each other in game. The big problem with it is the much-lamented lack of in-game communication. If my friend is playing MGS4, how do I know if he's up for MGO? Also, I like separate friends lists because once my "regular" friends" stop playing a game I have the option to add more friends who play more regularly. If I want to extend the friendship to all of PSN, I have that option.

I will say this - throughout the beta I was messaging the game master every day regarding the (lack of a) party system and the join friends setup. I still type up an email when I log on - that business needs to be fixed, and badly.

Still, to call the overall game mediocre is a bit supercilious, I think. The gameplay is pretty solid, although I think the proliferation of M14 specialists is going to push me away from it soon if Konami can't get the above-mentioned issues sorted out.