MGS 4: Guns of the Patriots (PS3) vs. Gears of War (Xbox 360)

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#1 Storyteller89
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First of all, I have to mention that I've got both consoles and both games. Apparently, MGS4 seems to be PS3 boy's golden game as where Gears of War seems to be Xbox 360 boy's golden game.

My reviews for these games were:

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots 10/10

Why do I define MGS 4 to be a perfect game? Well, the reason is, as for me it doesn't miss anything. However the highest points comes from the BEST storyline and storytelling EVER in games history. The second highest points comes from the GREAT gameplay, okay people may say Gears of War invented this idea first, but in my honest opinion, MGS4 implemented it better. Why? Because it doesn't just focus on the shooting, it focuses in the whole view, the whole picture which makes the shooting and everything feel by far more realistic, fun and clear. MGS4 misses the co-op that Gears of War has, but I don't think it'd fit on the MGS games, allthough it for sure wouldn't be minus either. Then the amazing graphics, best I've seen on PS3. There's a lot more to be said, but this is a short review and I hope you got my point. :)

Gears of War 7/10

Why is Gears of War not as good as MGS? Well, many of you say it's a lame theory to say the story is not good. Compared to MGS4 however, I must SAY it does suck. MGS4 would be a 8/10 without the amazing story. And also, this game has nice graphics, but it is pretty much screwed by the darkness in most parts. This game however has a co-op and it's always a plus, but it's done quite badly. Horizonal view sucks for me, also the moving AS in single campaing in co-op feels like you're in a tiny box and trying to move around, but you can feel you're moving in a cage and it takes the feel of fun away. Anyways this game's a bloodbath and its a DAMN GOOD THING! XD

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Agree

MGS4 is the best game this gen > Gears of war, a generic shooter with no story that plays better on PC and wiht a **** multiplayer. (although 2 solved this a bit)

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The only thing Gears has over MGS4 is graphics and online.
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#4 cifru
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The only thing Gears has over MGS4 is graphics and online.SnakePS360Gamer

Gears online definitely > MGO.

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The only thing Gears has over MGS4 is graphics and online.SnakePS360Gamer
Also i'm not a over the top graphic whore
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One was made in 2006. One was made in 2008.

One had a billion years of Dev time. One didn't.

One had 10 hours of cut scenes and 5 hours of gameplay. One had 10 hours of campaign gameplay and hundreds of hours of multipayer gameplay.

Ones a freaking stealth game, ones a third person shooter.

You make sweet love to your PS3, i like my 360.

edit: I just noticed you called gears co-op bad. :lol: There goes all credibility out the window, nice try. :lol:

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One was made in 2006. One was made in 2008.

One had a billion years of Dev time. One didn't.

One had 10 hours of cut scenes and 5 hours of gameplay. One had 10 hours of campaign gameplay and hundreds of hours of multipayer gameplay.

Ones a freaking stealth game, ones a third person shooter.

You make sweet love to your PS3, i like my 360.

CreepyBacon

Lol, it seems you haven't played either games by those remarks.

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#8 PAL360
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I didnt play MGS4 yet but Gears is an AAA game for sure
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#9 SnakePS360Gamer
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For the record, i'm talking about Gears 2
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#10 johnnyblazed88
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I still own and play Gears all the time, the co-op and online were really fun imo

MGS4 on the other hand is more like a collectors item after you beat it it just sits around and collects dust or you can trade it in

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One was made in 2006. One was made in 2008.

One had a billion years of Dev time. One didn't.

One had 10 hours of cut scenes and 5 hours of gameplay. One had 10 hours of campaign gameplay and hundreds of hours of multipayer gameplay.

Ones a freaking stealth game, ones a third person shooter.

You make sweet love to your PS3, i like my 360.

edit: I just noticed you called gears co-op bad. :lol: There goes all credibility out the window, nice try. :lol:

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Play MGS4 before you make comments on how long it is. For an average person playing on an average difficulty doing a small amount of the extra stuff in the game there's a bit more than 10 hours of gameplay. Which puts it on par with Gears of War. Not so short now is it? Seriously, MGS4 isn't as gameplay-lacking as some people would have you believe. First play through for me took roughly 25 hours with cutscenes. For most of the other people I've asked they come up with similar figures as well.
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gears has better online and thats it , MGS4 beats it in everyother area .
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For the record, i'm talking about Gears 2SnakePS360Gamer

It just might be a good idea to put that in the title.

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MGS4 is overrated. No I have not played it and would not like to either but there are things about MGS i do not need to play without knowing they are a joke. I tried MGS2 and did not like it then. MGS4 has 20 hours of movie and 7 hours of gameplay. I just do not understand how someone can act like that is a good thing. A player has to have 3 hours of movie for every hour of gameplay is pretty sad. Thankfully no other developer is dumb enough to do that. I laugh at the fanboys that talk about how MGS story is better then other games well OMG for a game that has more movie then it would take to watch all 3 LotR special edition movies TWICE it better have some story. Most developers are able to tell a story with out having that much movie. I know the fanboys will throw a hissy fit but Kojima is not that great. Any developer that need 3 hours of movie for 1 hour of gameplay to tell a story is not that great.

Gears 1 was a new IP and MGS4 could not outsell it. I am guessing Gears 2 will sell far more then Gears 1. This just proves more people would like to play Gears then watch MGS. Also on Gamerankings Gears 1 is ranked higher then MGS4

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[QUOTE="SnakePS360Gamer"]For the record, i'm talking about Gears 2Chutebox

It just might be a good idea to put that in the title.

I'm not the tc
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[QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]

One was made in 2006. One was made in 2008.

One had a billion years of Dev time. One didn't.

One had 10 hours of cut scenes and 5 hours of gameplay. One had 10 hours of campaign gameplay and hundreds of hours of multipayer gameplay.

Ones a freaking stealth game, ones a third person shooter.

You make sweet love to your PS3, i like my 360.

edit: I just noticed you called gears co-op bad. :lol: There goes all credibility out the window, nice try. :lol:

fluxorator

Play MGS4 before you make comments on how long it is. For an average person playing on an average difficulty doing a small amount of the extra stuff in the game there's a bit more than 10 hours of gameplay. Which puts it on par with Gears of War. Not so short now is it? Seriously, MGS4 isn't as gameplay-lacking as some people would have you believe. First play through for me took roughly 25 hours with cutscenes. For most of the other people I've asked they come up with similar figures as well.

It really took you 10 hours to beat Gears SP? Seems a bit long.

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="SnakePS360Gamer"]For the record, i'm talking about Gears 2SnakePS360Gamer

It just might be a good idea to put that in the title.

I'm not the tc

Oh, well you are now! Fix it!

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[QUOTE="fluxorator"][QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]

One was made in 2006. One was made in 2008.

One had a billion years of Dev time. One didn't.

One had 10 hours of cut scenes and 5 hours of gameplay. One had 10 hours of campaign gameplay and hundreds of hours of multipayer gameplay.

Ones a freaking stealth game, ones a third person shooter.

You make sweet love to your PS3, i like my 360.

edit: I just noticed you called gears co-op bad. :lol: There goes all credibility out the window, nice try. :lol:

Chutebox

Play MGS4 before you make comments on how long it is. For an average person playing on an average difficulty doing a small amount of the extra stuff in the game there's a bit more than 10 hours of gameplay. Which puts it on par with Gears of War. Not so short now is it? Seriously, MGS4 isn't as gameplay-lacking as some people would have you believe. First play through for me took roughly 25 hours with cutscenes. For most of the other people I've asked they come up with similar figures as well.

It really took you 10 hours to beat Gears SP? Seems a bit long.

I haven't played an entire campaign of Gears ( I don't own it, I play it at friends houses) The 10 hours came from the post I quoted
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MGS4 story > Gears Story

Gears Online > MGS4 online

Gears gameplay > MGS4 gameplay (MGS4 can be played as a shooter)

MGS4 character models > Gears Character models

Gears Textures > MGS4 textures.

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MGS4 is overrated.No I have not played it and would not like to either but there are things about MGS i do not need to play without knowing they are a joke. I tried MGS2 and did not like it then. MGS4 has 20 hours of movie and 7 hours of gameplay. I just do not understand how someone can act like that is a good thing. A player has to have 3 hours of movie for every hour of gameplay is pretty sad. Thankfully no other developer is dumb enough to do that. I laugh at the fanboys that talk about how MGS story is better then other games well OMG for a game that has more movie then it would take to watch all 3 LotR special edition movies TWICE it better have some story. Most developers are able to tell a story with out having that much movie. I know the fanboys will throw a hissy fit but Kojima is not that great. Any developer that need 3 hours of movie for 1 hour of gameplay to tell a story is not that great.

Gears 1 was a new IP and MGS4 could not outsell it. I am guessing Gears 2 will sell far more then Gears 1. This just proves more people would like to play Gears then watch MGS. Also on Gamerankings Gears 1 is ranked higher then MGS4

Eltroz

stopped reading there, since its useless to even consider your opinion as a valid/honest one, on something you havent even played...

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[QUOTE="Eltroz"]

MGS4 is overrated.No I have not played it and would not like to either but there are things about MGS i do not need to play without knowing they are a joke. I tried MGS2 and did not like it then. MGS4 has 20 hours of movie and 7 hours of gameplay. I just do not understand how someone can act like that is a good thing. A player has to have 3 hours of movie for every hour of gameplay is pretty sad. Thankfully no other developer is dumb enough to do that. I laugh at the fanboys that talk about how MGS story is better then other games well OMG for a game that has more movie then it would take to watch all 3 LotR special edition movies TWICE it better have some story. Most developers are able to tell a story with out having that much movie. I know the fanboys will throw a hissy fit but Kojima is not that great. Any developer that need 3 hours of movie for 1 hour of gameplay to tell a story is not that great.

Gears 1 was a new IP and MGS4 could not outsell it. I am guessing Gears 2 will sell far more then Gears 1. This just proves more people would like to play Gears then watch MGS. Also on Gamerankings Gears 1 is ranked higher then MGS4

Malta_1980

stopped reading there, since its useless to even consider your opinion as a valid/honest one, on something you havent even played...

If you did not read then do not bother to respond. I will never understand why people post I did not read your post.
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MGS4 is overrated. No I have not played it and would not like to either but their are things about MGS i do not need to play without knowing they are a joke. I tried MGS2 and did not like it then. MGS4 has 20 hours of movie and 7 hours of gameplay. I just do not understand how someone can act like that is a good thing. A player has to have 3 hours of movie for every hour of gameplay is pretty sad. Thankfully no other developer is dumb enough to do that. I laugh at the fanboys that talk about how MGS story is better then other games well OMG for a game that has more movie then it would take to watch all 3 LotR special edition movies TWICE it better have some story. Most developers are able to tell a story with out having that much movie. I know the fanboys will throw a hissy fit but Kojima is not that great. Any developer that need 3 hours of movie for 1 hour of gameplay to tell a story is not that great.

Gears 1 was a new IP and MGS4 could not outsell it. I am guessing Gears 2 will sell far more then Gears 1. This just proves more people would like to play Gears then watch MGS. Also on Gamerankings Gears 1 is ranked higher then MGS4

Eltroz
Funny because there physically isn't 13 hours worth of cutscenes in the game. It's exactly 10 minutes short of 10 hours which is still alot. No one is forcing you to watch them. 7 hours of gameplay? Kudos to them, if they did that on their first play through they're pretty damn good. Keep in mind that these cutscenes aren't some bullsh*t cutscene you see in most shooters, they're only there to show some big missile hit a building. Play the game, watch the cutscenes and you'll probably agree it was worth it. So right now it seems a 1:1 ratio between cutscene and gameplay but keep in mind most of the cutscenes are focused towards the end of the game (With the end-game one being especially long). So don't just assume you see a 15 second cutscene every 20 steps.
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For the record, i'm talking about Gears 2SnakePS360Gamer
Yeah, and I'm talking about MGS2
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joke. fanboys

Eltroz

Reading all that nonsense I left in the two words that described your post.

Seriously, if you're going to try and bash a game, at least use facts. You used the same fanboy dribble we hear every day that is not true.

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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]

MGS4 is overrated.No I have not played it and would not like to either but there are things about MGS i do not need to play without knowing they are a joke. I tried MGS2 and did not like it then. MGS4 has 20 hours of movie and 7 hours of gameplay. I just do not understand how someone can act like that is a good thing. A player has to have 3 hours of movie for every hour of gameplay is pretty sad. Thankfully no other developer is dumb enough to do that. I laugh at the fanboys that talk about how MGS story is better then other games well OMG for a game that has more movie then it would take to watch all 3 LotR special edition movies TWICE it better have some story. Most developers are able to tell a story with out having that much movie. I know the fanboys will throw a hissy fit but Kojima is not that great. Any developer that need 3 hours of movie for 1 hour of gameplay to tell a story is not that great.

Gears 1 was a new IP and MGS4 could not outsell it. I am guessing Gears 2 will sell far more then Gears 1. This just proves more people would like to play Gears then watch MGS. Also on Gamerankings Gears 1 is ranked higher then MGS4

Eltroz

stopped reading there, since its useless to even consider your opinion as a valid/honest one, on something you havent even played...

If you did not read then do not bother to respond. I will never understand why people post I did not read your post.

I dont understand why people criticise and post on games they dont even play... like you did !!!!

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you can see the passion for making a good game of kojima and his team through mgs4, it wont be compared with other games out there thats just trying to rip people off, and btw, most people played mgs4 campaign multiple times, Ive played it 6 times, some people played it 24 times, and you discover something amazing everytime you play it through.... Geras of war looks pretty cool and theres advertisements everywhere, but I dont have a 360, rrod's stopping me from buying one, I hate those kind of inconvenience, some people are fine with it but Im not..
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I love how so many people exaggerate the length of MGS4's cut scenes. They're long but they aren't 1300 hours long lol
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MGS4 is overrated. No I have not played it and would not like to either but there are things about MGS i do not need to play without knowing they are a joke. I tried MGS2 and did not like it then. MGS4 has 20 hours of movie and 7 hours of gameplay. I just do not understand how someone can act like that is a good thing. A player has to have 3 hours of movie for every hour of gameplay is pretty sad. Thankfully no other developer is dumb enough to do that. I laugh at the fanboys that talk about how MGS story is better then other games well OMG for a game that has more movie then it would take to watch all 3 LotR special edition movies TWICE it better have some story. Most developers are able to tell a story with out having that much movie. I know the fanboys will throw a hissy fit but Kojima is not that great. Any developer that need 3 hours of movie for 1 hour of gameplay to tell a story is not that great.

Gears 1 was a new IP and MGS4 could not outsell it. I am guessing Gears 2 will sell far more then Gears 1. This just proves more people would like to play Gears then watch MGS. Also on Gamerankings Gears 1 is ranked higher then MGS4

Eltroz

and i stopped reading there.

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[QUOTE="Eltroz"]

MGS4 is overrated. No I have not played it and would not like to either but their are things about MGS i do not need to play without knowing they are a joke. I tried MGS2 and did not like it then. MGS4 has 20 hours of movie and 7 hours of gameplay. I just do not understand how someone can act like that is a good thing. A player has to have 3 hours of movie for every hour of gameplay is pretty sad. Thankfully no other developer is dumb enough to do that. I laugh at the fanboys that talk about how MGS story is better then other games well OMG for a game that has more movie then it would take to watch all 3 LotR special edition movies TWICE it better have some story. Most developers are able to tell a story with out having that much movie. I know the fanboys will throw a hissy fit but Kojima is not that great. Any developer that need 3 hours of movie for 1 hour of gameplay to tell a story is not that great.

Gears 1 was a new IP and MGS4 could not outsell it. I am guessing Gears 2 will sell far more then Gears 1. This just proves more people would like to play Gears then watch MGS. Also on Gamerankings Gears 1 is ranked higher then MGS4

fluxorator
Funny because there physically isn't 13 hours worth of cutscenes in the game. It's exactly 10 minutes short of 10 hours which is still alot. No one is forcing you to watch them. 7 hours of gameplay? Kudos to them, if they did that on their first play through they're pretty damn good. Keep in mind that these cutscenes aren't some bullsh*t cutscene you see in most shooters, they're only there to show some big missile hit a building. Play the game, watch the cutscenes and you'll probably agree it was worth it. So right now it seems a 1:1 ratio between cutscene and gameplay but keep in mind most of the cutscenes are focused towards the end of the game (With the end-game one being especially long). So don't just assume you see a 15 second cutscene every 20 steps.

Granted they may be great looking animation scenes. Still even if it is 13 hours for 10 hours gameplay that is around 1 hour 20 minutes for every hour of gameplay. That just seems crazy to me. Those numbers seem very different from what i have read so I am trying to find links now. All i keep seeing is how Kojima wanted reviewers not to talk about the 90 min cutscene. Even there though shows he knew that was to long a cutscene.
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[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]

MGS4 is overrated.No I have not played it and would not like to either but there are things about MGS i do not need to play without knowing they are a joke. I tried MGS2 and did not like it then. MGS4 has 20 hours of movie and 7 hours of gameplay. I just do not understand how someone can act like that is a good thing. A player has to have 3 hours of movie for every hour of gameplay is pretty sad. Thankfully no other developer is dumb enough to do that. I laugh at the fanboys that talk about how MGS story is better then other games well OMG for a game that has more movie then it would take to watch all 3 LotR special edition movies TWICE it better have some story. Most developers are able to tell a story with out having that much movie. I know the fanboys will throw a hissy fit but Kojima is not that great. Any developer that need 3 hours of movie for 1 hour of gameplay to tell a story is not that great.

Gears 1 was a new IP and MGS4 could not outsell it. I am guessing Gears 2 will sell far more then Gears 1. This just proves more people would like to play Gears then watch MGS. Also on Gamerankings Gears 1 is ranked higher then MGS4

Malta_1980

stopped reading there, since its useless to even consider your opinion as a valid/honest one, on something you havent even played...

If you did not read then do not bother to respond. I will never understand why people post I did not read your post.

I dont understand why people criticise and post on games they dont even play... like you did !!!!

He has a point. Why bash something you've never played? That's pure fanboyism. Fanboyism at its finest.
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MGS4 is overrated. No I have not played it and would not like to either but there are things about MGS i do not need to play without knowing they are a joke. I tried MGS2 and did not like it then. MGS4 has 20 hours of movie and 7 hours of gameplay. I just do not understand how someone can act like that is a good thing. A player has to have 3 hours of movie for every hour of gameplay is pretty sad. Thankfully no other developer is dumb enough to do that. I laugh at the fanboys that talk about how MGS story is better then other games well OMG for a game that has more movie then it would take to watch all 3 LotR special edition movies TWICE it better have some story. Most developers are able to tell a story with out having that much movie. I know the fanboys will throw a hissy fit but Kojima is not that great. Any developer that need 3 hours of movie for 1 hour of gameplay to tell a story is not that great.

Gears 1 was a new IP and MGS4 could not outsell it. I am guessing Gears 2 will sell far more then Gears 1. This just proves more people would like to play Gears then watch MGS. Also on Gamerankings Gears 1 is ranked higher then MGS4

Eltroz
Gears of War series is overrated, if anything MGS4 is underrated outside of the internet. 20 hours of movie, 7 hours of gameplay. Thats a lie, you never played it. There is not 3 hours of movie after every gameplay section. MGS isn't meant for everybody, it was basically a fan service. Most people don't know MGS whereas GeOW is an american shooter with lots of hype and publicity around it. Of course it'll sell better. Again if you aren't a fan of previous MGS games then MGS4 isn't for you
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#32 Eltroz
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"][QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]

MGS4 is overrated.No I have not played it and would not like to either but there are things about MGS i do not need to play without knowing they are a joke. I tried MGS2 and did not like it then. MGS4 has 20 hours of movie and 7 hours of gameplay. I just do not understand how someone can act like that is a good thing. A player has to have 3 hours of movie for every hour of gameplay is pretty sad. Thankfully no other developer is dumb enough to do that. I laugh at the fanboys that talk about how MGS story is better then other games well OMG for a game that has more movie then it would take to watch all 3 LotR special edition movies TWICE it better have some story. Most developers are able to tell a story with out having that much movie. I know the fanboys will throw a hissy fit but Kojima is not that great. Any developer that need 3 hours of movie for 1 hour of gameplay to tell a story is not that great.

Gears 1 was a new IP and MGS4 could not outsell it. I am guessing Gears 2 will sell far more then Gears 1. This just proves more people would like to play Gears then watch MGS. Also on Gamerankings Gears 1 is ranked higher then MGS4

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stopped reading there, since its useless to even consider your opinion as a valid/honest one, on something you havent even played...

If you did not read then do not bother to respond. I will never understand why people post I did not read your post.

I dont understand why people criticise and post on games they dont even play... like you did !!!!

He has a point. Why bash something you've never played? That's pure fanboyism. Fanboyism at its finest.

How many of the people in this thread have played Gears of war 2 but the whole thread is comparing the 2 games. Oh I guess it is ok for the cows to talk about a 360 game they have not played though huh?
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#33 fluxorator
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[QUOTE="fluxorator"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]

MGS4 is overrated. No I have not played it and would not like to either but their are things about MGS i do not need to play without knowing they are a joke. I tried MGS2 and did not like it then. MGS4 has 20 hours of movie and 7 hours of gameplay. I just do not understand how someone can act like that is a good thing. A player has to have 3 hours of movie for every hour of gameplay is pretty sad. Thankfully no other developer is dumb enough to do that. I laugh at the fanboys that talk about how MGS story is better then other games well OMG for a game that has more movie then it would take to watch all 3 LotR special edition movies TWICE it better have some story. Most developers are able to tell a story with out having that much movie. I know the fanboys will throw a hissy fit but Kojima is not that great. Any developer that need 3 hours of movie for 1 hour of gameplay to tell a story is not that great.

Gears 1 was a new IP and MGS4 could not outsell it. I am guessing Gears 2 will sell far more then Gears 1. This just proves more people would like to play Gears then watch MGS. Also on Gamerankings Gears 1 is ranked higher then MGS4

Eltroz
Funny because there physically isn't 13 hours worth of cutscenes in the game. It's exactly 10 minutes short of 10 hours which is still alot. No one is forcing you to watch them. 7 hours of gameplay? Kudos to them, if they did that on their first play through they're pretty damn good. Keep in mind that these cutscenes aren't some bullsh*t cutscene you see in most shooters, they're only there to show some big missile hit a building. Play the game, watch the cutscenes and you'll probably agree it was worth it. So right now it seems a 1:1 ratio between cutscene and gameplay but keep in mind most of the cutscenes are focused towards the end of the game (With the end-game one being especially long). So don't just assume you see a 15 second cutscene every 20 steps.

Granted they may be great looking animation scenes. Still even if it is 13 hours for 10 hours gameplay that is around 1 hour 20 minutes for every hour of gameplay. That just seems crazy to me. Those numbers seem very different from what i have read so I am trying to find links now. All i keep seeing is how Kojima wanted reviewers not to talk about the 90 min cutscene. Even there though shows he knew that was to long a cutscene.

There are no 90 minute cutscenes and the total length of cutscenes is less than 10 hours. NOT 13. The longest one is just short of an hour I think(?). Eltroz, play the game. Come back and say the cutscenes weren't worth it. It's just one of those things that you'll never understand until you play it. It's sort of like the original Sim City. People (mostly corporations) bashed the game because you can't actually win it. Once you play it however you understand how that has no negative effect on the game. If the cutscenes on MGS4 were shorter, personally I think it wouldn't have been as good. It would have just become an overrated shooter with a shallow storyline. (I'm sorry a plot twist does not constitute depth)
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#34 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"][QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]

fluxorator

If you did not read then do not bother to respond. I will never understand why people post I did not read your post.

I dont understand why people criticise and post on games they dont even play... like you did !!!!

He has a point. Why bash something you've never played? That's pure fanboyism. Fanboyism at its finest.

i did not mean to attack Eltroz but obviously one cannot expect to be take seriously when bashing something he/she didnt even play... then when you say he/she is being biased or a fanboy, they hide behind the usual excuse 'but i was posting my opinion' or 'why am i a fanboy just because i have a different opinion'...

its not a question of calling others fanboys because deep down everyone (incl myself) have prefernces and to some extent are fanboys but i personally dont have a Wii so i never go into discussions concerning Wii exclusives since not having the console i certainly havent played its games...

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#35 fluxorator
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How many of the people in this thread have played Gears of war 2 but the whole thread is comparing the 2 games. Oh I guess it is ok for the cows to talk about a 360 game they have not played though huh?Eltroz
I thought it was Gears 1 that was being compared in the thread. Which I have played and personally I like (Way better than Halo imo). If it's Gears 2 well the main facts behind it are more or less the same. It's still a third person shooter, it's still probably got the same level of storyline depth (I could be wrong, but it's unlikely to change). It's probably also got a similar campaign length. I hold a high opinion of Gears of War 1 & 2 as shooters. As games as a whole, I believe MGS4 is better.
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The only thing Gears has over MGS4 is graphics and online.SnakePS360Gamer

Let me correct you.

The only things Gears has is graphics and online.

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#37 Eltroz
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[QUOTE="Eltroz"]

MGS4 is overrated. No I have not played it and would not like to either but there are things about MGS i do not need to play without knowing they are a joke. I tried MGS2 and did not like it then. MGS4 has 20 hours of movie and 7 hours of gameplay. I just do not understand how someone can act like that is a good thing. A player has to have 3 hours of movie for every hour of gameplay is pretty sad. Thankfully no other developer is dumb enough to do that. I laugh at the fanboys that talk about how MGS story is better then other games well OMG for a game that has more movie then it would take to watch all 3 LotR special edition movies TWICE it better have some story. Most developers are able to tell a story with out having that much movie. I know the fanboys will throw a hissy fit but Kojima is not that great. Any developer that need 3 hours of movie for 1 hour of gameplay to tell a story is not that great.

Gears 1 was a new IP and MGS4 could not outsell it. I am guessing Gears 2 will sell far more then Gears 1. This just proves more people would like to play Gears then watch MGS. Also on Gamerankings Gears 1 is ranked higher then MGS4

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Gears of War series is overrated, if anything MGS4 is underrated outside of the internet. 20 hours of movie, 7 hours of gameplay. Thats a lie, you never played it. There is not 3 hours of movie after every gameplay section. MGS isn't meant for everybody, it was basically a fan service. Most people don't know MGS whereas GeOW is an american shooter with lots of hype and publicity around it. Of course it'll sell better. Again if you aren't a fan of previous MGS games then MGS4 isn't for you

MGS4 had just as much publicity behind it as Gears 2 did if not more. It was made as the PS3's Halo but for the PS3. You can not say it was just made for a few fans. Sony pushed. Sony put more backing into that game then anyother PS3 game yet and Sony wanted more then just a few MGS fans to enjoy it. What ever excuse it just happens more people want to play Gears then MGS.
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#38 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="fluxorator"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"][QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]

Eltroz

He has a point. Why bash something you've never played? That's pure fanboyism. Fanboyism at its finest.

How many of the people in this thread have played Gears of war 2 but the whole thread is comparing the 2 games. Oh I guess it is ok for the cows to talk about a 360 game they have not played though huh?

no its not ok, i personally am not in a position to compare these games because am still waiting :( for my copy of Geow2...

however i replied on your first post because you started by saying MGSIV is overrated and they state you havent played the game or even intend to... am sorry but that doesnt make sense...

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I've played both games and they are both some of the best games i've played. However MGS4 is truly one of the best games this gen. It's OVERALL better than GeOW. The only thing that MGS hasn't done very well is online.

Not saying GeOW sucks or anything but IMO MGS4 is the best game this year and surley goty.

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MGS 4 is as much a movie as it is a game, wich makes it epic.in the end i was just shouting: CMON SNAKE!!! YOU'LL MAKE IT!!!

its so fking epic.

Gears is good too, but i prefer MGS 4 because i like story driven games

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#41 SnakePS360Gamer
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[QUOTE="SnakePS360Gamer"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]

MGS4 is overrated. No I have not played it and would not like to either but there are things about MGS i do not need to play without knowing they are a joke. I tried MGS2 and did not like it then. MGS4 has 20 hours of movie and 7 hours of gameplay. I just do not understand how someone can act like that is a good thing. A player has to have 3 hours of movie for every hour of gameplay is pretty sad. Thankfully no other developer is dumb enough to do that. I laugh at the fanboys that talk about how MGS story is better then other games well OMG for a game that has more movie then it would take to watch all 3 LotR special edition movies TWICE it better have some story. Most developers are able to tell a story with out having that much movie. I know the fanboys will throw a hissy fit but Kojima is not that great. Any developer that need 3 hours of movie for 1 hour of gameplay to tell a story is not that great.

Gears 1 was a new IP and MGS4 could not outsell it. I am guessing Gears 2 will sell far more then Gears 1. This just proves more people would like to play Gears then watch MGS. Also on Gamerankings Gears 1 is ranked higher then MGS4

Eltroz
Gears of War series is overrated, if anything MGS4 is underrated outside of the internet. 20 hours of movie, 7 hours of gameplay. Thats a lie, you never played it. There is not 3 hours of movie after every gameplay section. MGS isn't meant for everybody, it was basically a fan service. Most people don't know MGS whereas GeOW is an american shooter with lots of hype and publicity around it. Of course it'll sell better. Again if you aren't a fan of previous MGS games then MGS4 isn't for you

MGS4 had just as much publicity behind it as Gears 2 did if not more. It was made as the PS3's Halo but for the PS3. You can not say it was just made for a few fans. Sony pushed. Sony put more backing into that game then anyother PS3 game yet and Sony wanted more then just a few MGS fans to enjoy it. What ever excuse it just happens more people want to play Gears then MGS.

There was no mainstream hype for MGS4 outside of Japan, unless you consider a bundle mainstream hype. Just give up, you're digging your own grave.
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#42 Eltroz
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Ok well I will agree to disagree with you all on MGS4. I have tried 2 and did not like that one at all. I just would never want to play a game with that much movie but if you all want to then enjoy. We will all agree to disagree about if MGS is overrated or not.
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I don't believe a stealth game is comparabe to a third person tactical shooter.
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How many of the people in this thread have played Gears of war 2 but the whole thread is comparing the 2 games. Oh I guess it is ok for the cows to talk about a 360 game they have not played though huh?Eltroz

Where in the title or TS does it mention Gears 2? EVeryone is assuming Gears 1 because of the title.

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MGS4 is overrated. No I have not played it and would not like to either but there are things about MGS i do not need to play without knowing they are a joke. I tried MGS2 and did not like it then. MGS4 has 20 hours of movie and 7 hours of gameplay. I just do not understand how someone can act like that is a good thing. A player has to have 3 hours of movie for every hour of gameplay is pretty sad. Thankfully no other developer is dumb enough to do that. I laugh at the fanboys that talk about how MGS story is better then other games well OMG for a game that has more movie then it would take to watch all 3 LotR special edition movies TWICE it better have some story. Most developers are able to tell a story with out having that much movie. I know the fanboys will throw a hissy fit but Kojima is not that great. Any developer that need 3 hours of movie for 1 hour of gameplay to tell a story is not that great.

Gears 1 was a new IP and MGS4 could not outsell it. I am guessing Gears 2 will sell far more then Gears 1. This just proves more people would like to play Gears then watch MGS. Also on Gamerankings Gears 1 is ranked higher then MGS4

Eltroz

Are you trying to make a fool of yourself?, by saying "No I have not played it and would not like to either but there are things about MGS i do not need to play without knowing they are a joke" you effectively call yourself an idiot who cant be trusted to tell a proper opinion. I spent and so did a guy who posted in this thread earlier, 22-25 hours just finishing the game once. it does not matter how much movie time MGS4 has as long as its enjoyable, Something hard to find in Gears one and two.

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a GAME like metal gear solid 4 has never been done before.

while gears 2 is just gears 1 with new gore moves =/

mgs4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gears 2

but gears 2 has a much much better online :p

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[QUOTE="Eltroz"]

How many of the people in this thread have played Gears of war 2 but the whole thread is comparing the 2 games. Oh I guess it is ok for the cows to talk about a 360 game they have not played though huh?Chutebox

Where in the title or TS does it mention Gears 2? EVeryone is assuming Gears 1 because of the title.

TC already said he meant Gears 2. And what would be the point comparing it to Gears 1.
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#48 fluxorator
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[QUOTE="SnakePS360Gamer"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]

MGS4 is overrated. No I have not played it and would not like to either but there are things about MGS i do not need to play without knowing they are a joke. I tried MGS2 and did not like it then. MGS4 has 20 hours of movie and 7 hours of gameplay. I just do not understand how someone can act like that is a good thing. A player has to have 3 hours of movie for every hour of gameplay is pretty sad. Thankfully no other developer is dumb enough to do that. I laugh at the fanboys that talk about how MGS story is better then other games well OMG for a game that has more movie then it would take to watch all 3 LotR special edition movies TWICE it better have some story. Most developers are able to tell a story with out having that much movie. I know the fanboys will throw a hissy fit but Kojima is not that great. Any developer that need 3 hours of movie for 1 hour of gameplay to tell a story is not that great.

Gears 1 was a new IP and MGS4 could not outsell it. I am guessing Gears 2 will sell far more then Gears 1. This just proves more people would like to play Gears then watch MGS. Also on Gamerankings Gears 1 is ranked higher then MGS4

Eltroz
Gears of War series is overrated, if anything MGS4 is underrated outside of the internet. 20 hours of movie, 7 hours of gameplay. Thats a lie, you never played it. There is not 3 hours of movie after every gameplay section. MGS isn't meant for everybody, it was basically a fan service. Most people don't know MGS whereas GeOW is an american shooter with lots of hype and publicity around it. Of course it'll sell better. Again if you aren't a fan of previous MGS games then MGS4 isn't for you

MGS4 had just as much publicity behind it as Gears 2 did if not more. It was made as the PS3's Halo but for the PS3. You can not say it was just made for a few fans. Sony pushed. Sony put more backing into that game then anyother PS3 game yet and Sony wanted more then just a few MGS fans to enjoy it. What ever excuse it just happens more people want to play Gears then MGS.

Half the people hyping it where PS3 fanboys. Only about 10% of them would end up playing it, the rest would just pretend to. MGS4 is a massive game, but it's "audience" isn't as large as a shooter. You can just pick up Gears of War right now, play it, understand it and then go onto Gears of War 2. For MGS4 you have to play: Metal Gear - 1987 Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake - 1990 Metal Gear Solid - 1998 Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty - 2001 Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater - 2004 Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops - 2006 (Or 2007 can't remember) Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots - 2008 Not to mention all the other expansions and other versions of those games like: MGS: Integral MGS: VR Missions MGS2: Substance MGS3: Subsistence MGS: Portable Ops Plus (Chronological order is different to release order as well) MGS3:SE MGS: PO MG MG2:SS MGS MGS2:SOL MGS4:GOP With all that, do you realise why MGS4 isn't as accesible as Gears of War? And why GeoW will probably always sell more?
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#49 SnakePS360Gamer
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]

How many of the people in this thread have played Gears of war 2 but the whole thread is comparing the 2 games. Oh I guess it is ok for the cows to talk about a 360 game they have not played though huh?EuroMafia

Where in the title or TS does it mention Gears 2? EVeryone is assuming Gears 1 because of the title.

TC already said he meant Gears 2. And what would be the point comparing it to Gears 1.

I'm not the tc!! lol
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MGS4