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#1 CaseyWegner
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for pete's sake, people. control yourselves.
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#3 D00nut
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Make it stop Casey! As much as I would like to see it happen for the 360, right now it will not!

We need animals!

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#4 asdasd
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GI: Is Metal Gear Solid 4 still exclusive? Is that solidified and will never appear on the Xbox 360?

Harrison: Yes. We said it was an exclusive title.

Read it and weep lemmings

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#5 FusionApex
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Unbelievable casey, i Just made a thread 5 seconds ago about the same.
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#6 EPaul
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When will it end?
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#7 Spartan070
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360 people, you'll have to wait for a "Substance/Subsistence" version, just be patient.
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#8 Solid_Link22
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I just thinking that you should make one of these.
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#9 m_machine024
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It's not coming. The end.
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#10 deathtrap90
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2 Years, if the game sells well you can forget about it

R-Dot-Yung

Where do you get 2 years ? and if it sells wwell forget aabout it ?

you make 0 sense

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#11 gamr92
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I don't think that it will come.
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#12 NobuoMusicMaker
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Lol this had to be remade. So sad Lemmings.
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#14 Pro_wrestler
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Who the hell wants MGS? I mean sure, Snake Eater was by far the best one but the other 2 and countless remakes aren't that good.
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#15 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="deathtrap90"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

2 Years, if the game sells well you can forget about it

R-Dot-Yung

Where do you get 2 years ? and if it sells wwell forget aabout it ?

you make 0 sense

The game has a 2 year exclusivity without question, if it doesnt sell well, a port CAN CAN CAN CAN be made, if it sells well, then it will never appear on the 360

i know people

Where are you getting this 2 year exclusive crap from?

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#16 DA_B0MB
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This argument is so beyond stale and unintresting now it's not even funny.
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#18 vauba_haoly
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GI: Is Metal Gear Solid 4 still exclusive? Is that solidified and will never appear on the Xbox 360?

Harrison: Yes. We said it was an exclusive title.

Read it and weep lemmings

asdasd
Did you miss the article (It's right here on Gamespot) where someone from Konami said they would port it if it didn't make enough money off of PS3, and they thought there was a good chance it wouldn't make enough money.

If you trust Phil Harrison over Konami's word on this subject you're a fool.

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#19 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="asdasd"]

GI: Is Metal Gear Solid 4 still exclusive? Is that solidified and will never appear on the Xbox 360?

Harrison: Yes. We said it was an exclusive title.

Read it and weep lemmings

vauba_haoly
Did you miss the article (It's right here on Gamespot) where someone from Konami said they would port it if it didn't make enough money off of PS3, and they thought there was a good chance it wouldn't make enough money.

If you trust Phil Harrison over Konami's word on this subject you're a fool.

and whoever from konami said that was probably wrong.

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#20 Killfox
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360 people, you'll have to wait for a "Substance/Subsistence" version, just be patient.Spartan070

Whos making it????

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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]360 people, you'll have to wait for a "Substance/Subsistence" version, just be patient.Killfox

Whos making it????

Konami and Kojima Studios I presume.:| Or whoever made the last "S" versions. Saying you won't port MGS is different than saying you wont release version 2.1. Technically, MGS2 was a PS2 exclusive, Substance was multiplat.

Different SKUs for different hues.

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#22 Killfox
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[QUOTE="Killfox"]

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]360 people, you'll have to wait for a "Substance/Subsistence" version, just be patient.Spartan070

Whos making it????

Konami and Kojima Studios I presume.:| Or whoever made the last "S" versions. Saying you won't port MGS is different than saying you wont release version 2.1. Technically, MGS2 was a PS2 exclusive, Substance was multiplat.

Different SKUs for different hues.

I would never buy aMGS gamethat wasnt made by kojima.

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#23 fuzzysquash
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360 people, you'll have to wait for a "Substance/Subsistence" version, just be patient.Spartan070

Right, how does MGS3: Subsistence for Xbox play?

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#24 vauba_haoly
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[QUOTE="vauba_haoly"]

[QUOTE="asdasd"]

GI: Is Metal Gear Solid 4 still exclusive? Is that solidified and will never appear on the Xbox 360?

Harrison: Yes. We said it was an exclusive title.

Read it and weep lemmings

CaseyWegner
Did you miss the article (It's right here on Gamespot) where someone from Konami said they would port it if it didn't make enough money off of PS3, and they thought there was a good chance it wouldn't make enough money.

If you trust Phil Harrison over Konami's word on this subject you're a fool.

and whoever from konami said that was probably wrong.

If he's probably wrong why did gamespot make an article about it?

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/adventure/metalgearsolid4/news.html?sid=6173911&mode=all

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#25 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]360 people, you'll have to wait for a "Substance/Subsistence" version, just be patient.fuzzysquash

Right, how does MGS3: Subsistence for Xbox play?

Non-existently:lol: I'm just speculating.:P The console race and consumer market was a lot different then.
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#26 Killfox
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Like i said before. Whos going to make it??? Since kojima is not. Well thats atleast what he tells us.
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#27 fuzzysquash
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[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]360 people, you'll have to wait for a "Substance/Subsistence" version, just be patient.Spartan070

Right, how does MGS3: Subsistence for Xbox play?

Non-existently:lol: I'm just speculating.:P The console race and consumer market was a lot different then.

I'll give you that.

Kitaue did mention he wants to port #4, but CVG reported that he has repeatedly pressured Kojima, but Kojima has staunchly said "no."

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#28 Spartan070
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Like i said before. Whos going to make it??? Since kojima is not. Well thats atleast what he tells us.Killfox
He said MGS4 will not go on the 360. A "Sub____" version would be a different SKU. We went through this 5 years ago with MGS2...
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#29 Thompsonwhore
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Most people who currently owns a PS3 will also buy Metal Gear Solid 4. That and Final Fantasy XIII was the reason for early adopters to get it.
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#30 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="vauba_haoly"]

[QUOTE="asdasd"]

GI: Is Metal Gear Solid 4 still exclusive? Is that solidified and will never appear on the Xbox 360?

Harrison: Yes. We said it was an exclusive title.

Read it and weep lemmings

vauba_haoly
Did you miss the article (It's right here on Gamespot) where someone from Konami said they would port it if it didn't make enough money off of PS3, and they thought there was a good chance it wouldn't make enough money.

If you trust Phil Harrison over Konami's word on this subject you're a fool.

and whoever from konami said that was probably wrong.

If he's probably wrong why did gamespot make an article about it?

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/adventure/metalgearsolid4/news.html?sid=6173911&mode=all

because it was an announcement. :|

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#31 Killfox
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[QUOTE="Killfox"]Like i said before. Whos going to make it??? Since kojima is not. Well thats atleast what he tells us.Spartan070
He said MGS4 will not go on the 360. A "Sub____" version would be a different SKU. We went through this 5 years ago with MGS2...

Its just not the same.

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[QUOTE="vauba_haoly"][QUOTE="asdasd"]

GI: Is Metal Gear Solid 4 still exclusive? Is that solidified and will never appear on the Xbox 360?

Harrison: Yes. We said it was an exclusive title.

Read it and weep lemmings

CaseyWegner
Did you miss the article (It's right here on Gamespot) where someone from Konami said they would port it if it didn't make enough money off of PS3, and they thought there was a good chance it wouldn't make enough money.

If you trust Phil Harrison over Konami's word on this subject you're a fool.

and whoever from konami said that was probably wrong.

Kitaue was the one that made the statement that if sales did not improve, something would have to be looked at. They never specifically stated that they would look at the 360. They could go the PC route or maybe the PS2 route. Or it may be rheteric to get Kojima working a little faster.

And for anyone thinking that this is Kojima's decision whether it becomes a 360 game or not gives developers too much credit. While Kojima has a lot of clout, Kitaue has to answer to the stock owners. And they want proft not failure. So if Kitaue feels that a multiplatorm version of MGS4 is needed, then it will ge made.

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#33 vauba_haoly
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because it was an announcement. :|

CaseyWegner
What do you mean it was announcement? It was from an interview.
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#34 fuzzysquash
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Kitaue was the one that made the statement that if sales did not improve, something would have to be looked at. They never specifically stated that they would look at the 360. They could go the PC route or maybe the PS2 route. Or it may be rheteric to get Kojima working a little faster.

And for anyone thinking that this is Kojima's decision whether it becomes a 360 game or not gives developers too much credit. While Kojima has a lot of clout, Kitaue has to answer to the stock owners. And they want proft not failure. So if Kitaue feels that a multiplatorm version of MGS4 is needed, then it will ge made.

mclazyj

Wrong.

While what you say may be true for any other developer, Hideo Kojima is not your average developer. He sits on the board of directors at the same meetings as Kitaue.

He was the former Vice President of Konami Computer Entertainment Japan, a position a least as high, if not higher than Kitaue's. He voluntarily gave up that position to focus on game creation, which resulted in the creation of Kojima Productions.

James Mielke, an industry insider and friend of Kojima's, has said on a previous 1up Show that it's clear from first-hand observation that nobody pushes Kojima around at Konami.

Kojima has been the primary impetus behind Konami's biggest franchise for 20 years. If Kojima lets it happen, it'll happen. If he doesn't, the company will have to muster all its executive power to overrule him. And Konami cannot afford to offend or lose Kojima by violating his will.

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#35 vauba_haoly
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Wrong.

While what you say may be true for any other developer, Hideo Kojima is not your average developer. He sits on the board of directors at the same meetings as Kitaue.

He was the former Vice President of Konami Computer Entertainment Japan, a position at least as high, if not higher than Kitaue's. He voluntarily gave up that position to focus on game creation, which resulted in the creation of Kojima Productions.

James Mielke, an industry insider and friend of Kojima's, has said on a previous 1up Show that it's clear from first-hand observation that nobody pushes Kojima around at Konami.

Kojima has been the primary impetus behind Konami's biggest franchise for 20 years. If Kojima lets it happen, it'll happen. If he doesn't, the company will have to muster all its executive power to overrule him. And Konami cannot afford to offend or lose Kojima by violating his will.

fuzzysquash
Kojima seems like a bright guy to me. Surely he is competent enough to understand that a business must earn money to survive and if a game cost more to make than it earns in sales that is bad for the company. So if MGS4 does not recover it's development costs then porting it is the sensible thing to do.
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#36 vauba_haoly
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Kitaue was the one that made the statement that if sales did not improve, something would have to be looked at. They never specifically stated that they would look at the 360. They could go the PC route or maybe the PS2 route. Or it may be rheteric to get Kojima working a little faster.mclazyj
Why would they port it to the PC and not Xbox 360? I mean if they did go multiplatform there's certainly a good chane of it being on PC also but 360 is the obvious choice. And maybe this talk of PS3 exclusivity is just rhetoric to get people buying the system a little faster.

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[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

Wrong.

While what you say may be true for any other developer, Hideo Kojima is not your average developer. He sits on the board of directors at the same meetings as Kitaue.

He was the former Vice President of Konami Computer Entertainment Japan, a position at least as high, if not higher than Kitaue's. He voluntarily gave up that position to focus on game creation, which resulted in the creation of Kojima Productions.

James Mielke, an industry insider and friend of Kojima's, has said on a previous 1up Show that it's clear from first-hand observation that nobody pushes Kojima around at Konami.

Kojima has been the primary impetus behind Konami's biggest franchise for 20 years. If Kojima lets it happen, it'll happen. If he doesn't, the company will have to muster all its executive power to overrule him. And Konami cannot afford to offend or lose Kojima by violating his will.

vauba_haoly

Kojima seems like a bright guy to me. Surely he is competent enough to understand that a business must earn money to survive and if a game cost more to make than it earns in sales that is bad for the company. So if MGS4 does not recover it's development costs then porting it is the sensible thing to do.

It's possible.

But the point is that nobody knows at this point whether or not MGS4 will recover its development costs. Companies are generally risk-averse when their interests are at stake, so there is substantial pressure within the company to port.

What we do know is that Kojima is standing his ground because he wants to give MGS4 a chance to succeed as a PS3 exclusive. Other Konami exec's don't want to take that chance (they'd rather minimize chances of failure by porting early), but until Kojima allows it, they cannot force him to port the game.

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#38 vauba_haoly
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It's possible.

But the point is that nobody knows at this point whether or not MGS4 will recover its development costs. Companies are generally risk-averse when their interests are at stake, so there is substantial pressure within the company to port.

What we do know is that Kojima is standing his ground because he wants to give MGS4 a chance to succeed as a PS3 exclusive. Other Konami exec's don't want to take that chance (they'd rather minimize chances of failure by porting early), but until Kojima allows it, they cannot force him to port the game.

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The Konami executive in question here did say in that interview that he wanted to give it a chance as a PS3 exclusive. He just also said that he was not very confident that it would be enough of a success and implied that they would port it if it wasn't.
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#39 Harry_Nukem
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People hear me! MGS4 is not a good game and is more like one of them terrible anime movies that make you wonder how in the hell do people actually enjoy this stuff?

Us 360 gamers have better games - Halo3, Mass Effect, Too Human, and UNO on XBL:shock:

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="vauba_haoly"][QUOTE="asdasd"]

GI: Is Metal Gear Solid 4 still exclusive? Is that solidified and will never appear on the Xbox 360?

Harrison: Yes. We said it was an exclusive title.

Read it and weep lemmings

mclazyj
Did you miss the article (It's right here on Gamespot) where someone from Konami said they would port it if it didn't make enough money off of PS3, and they thought there was a good chance it wouldn't make enough money.

If you trust Phil Harrison over Konami's word on this subject you're a fool.

and whoever from konami said that was probably wrong.

Kitaue was the one that made the statement that if sales did not improve, something would have to be looked at. They never specifically stated that they would look at the 360. They could go the PC route or maybe the PS2 route. Or it may be rheteric to get Kojima working a little faster.

And for anyone thinking that this is Kojima's decision whether it becomes a 360 game or not gives developers too much credit. While Kojima has a lot of clout, Kitaue has to answer to the stock owners. And they want proft not failure. So if Kitaue feels that a multiplatorm version of MGS4 is needed, then it will ge made.

DO you seriously think kitaue is in charge of what Kojima does?Let me help you; NO! He's not.

MGS4 is exclusive, please be mature.

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#41 fuzzysquash
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[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]It's possible.

But the point is that nobody knows at this point whether or not MGS4 will recover its development costs. Companies are generally risk-averse when their interests are at stake, so there is substantial pressure within the company to port.

What we do know is that Kojima is standing his ground because he wants to give MGS4 a chance to succeed as a PS3 exclusive. Other Konami exec's don't want to take that chance (they'd rather minimize chances of failure by porting early), but until Kojima allows it, they cannot force him to port the game.

vauba_haoly

The Konami executive in question here did say in that interview that he wanted to give it a chance as a PS3 exclusive. He just also said that he was not very confident that it would be enough of a success and implied that they would port it if it wasn't.

I'm going by what's been reported in CVG. According to inside sources, Kitaue has already been pressuring Kojima to develop the game as a multiplat. Kojima has flatly refused.

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#42 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

because it was an announcement. :|

vauba_haoly

What do you mean it was announcement? It was from an interview.

where he announced it.

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#43 killzones
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IF it comes to 360 it will most likely be a bad port of the superior PS3 version. Just like Substance was. As I remember Kojima didnot work on the port of MGS2 for xbox.
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#44 Tamarind_Face
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Goddamn lems... its not coming. This is getting ridiculous!
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#45 the-very-best
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I don't think it's going to end up on the 360.
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#46 daveg1
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i hope it stays on the ps3..i only wish they opted for a better gpu in the ps3
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How many stickies do we need?
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Killfox"]

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]360 people, you'll have to wait for a "Substance/Subsistence" version, just be patient.Killfox

Whos making it????

Konami and Kojima Studios I presume.:| Or whoever made the last "S" versions. Saying you won't port MGS is different than saying you wont release version 2.1. Technically, MGS2 was a PS2 exclusive, Substance was multiplat.

Different SKUs for different hues.

I would never buy aMGS gamethat wasnt made by kojima.

Have fun with the series after MGS4... unless Kojima comes back again.

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#49 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Killfox"]Like i said before. Whos going to make it??? Since kojima is not. Well thats atleast what he tells us.Killfox

He said MGS4 will not go on the 360. A "Sub____" version would be a different SKU. We went through this 5 years ago with MGS2...

Its just not the same.

True but it doesn't make it any less likely.

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#50 playstation2004
Member since 2004 • 4928 Posts
Its not coming:|