MGS ground zeroes 1080p/60fps on ps4 only 720p/60fps XONE

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#101 NathanDrakeSwag
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Hahahah how embarrassing for M$ that their $500 system is nothing more than a slightly more powerful 360. This game is the biggest example yet of how big the difference in 1080p and 720p is. Enjoy your 360 version lems because it is the same as Xbone.

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#102 remiks00
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@stereointegrity said:

@StrongBlackVine said:

LOL didn't Kojima says the systems were equal? The guy leading The Evil Within said the same thing back around E3. I bet that game is better on PS4 too.

Meanwhile Titanfall runs at 792p with framerates between 35-45fps whenever you are in a Titan. Microsoft really built a joke.

no they arent using the dgpu and stereo drivers..also the hana 2 was just turned on so the system is gonna be ok

I see what you did there. :D

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#103 GrenadeLauncher
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LMAO

HIDEO_KOJIMAVerified account ‏@HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN

The page comparing the current & next-gen consoles for GZ. Video will come later, not sure how people react thou.

If this thread is any indication, bitter rage.

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#104 remiks00
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@GrenadeLauncher said:

@Opus_Rea-333 said:

Kojima accepting this Sony marketing gimmick, theres alot actual MGS (when mgs used to be good) fans which actually own Xbox One.

PS: They all looks like shit.

Holy **** that salt

Holy shit that picture is funny as hell!

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#105 ReadingRainbow4
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Ah damn, tonight gave me a lot of laughs, love ya SW.

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#109 PrincessGomez92
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Well, better than expected. Hard to be excited about this game though.

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#110 FoxbatAlpha
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I will just have to rely on the superior upscaler to give me 1080p again. Just like every other multiplat, the differences will be minimal.

This or I just may barricade myself in a walmart and take hostages. Lol

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#111  Edited By AM-Gamer
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@Opus_Rea-333: When MGS use to be good? You mean like MGS4 when it got a 10? You know the one that never came to the 360? Ground Zeroes looks amazing , it will just look and run better on the PS4 no need to be butthurt.

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#112 GrenadeLauncher
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

I will just have to rely on the superior upscaler to give me 1080p again. Just like every other multiplat, the differences will be minimal.

This or I just may barricade myself in a walmart and take hostages. Lol

You mean the upscaler that got removed in the update?

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#113 X_CAPCOM_X
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This is hilarious! This thread is a total shit show. I am very entertained by the internet.

While it's clear that one version (PS4) looks a lot better and one console (ahem, PS4) is a lot stronger, I'm sure that a few years from now, most games released for both consoles will be upscaled sub HD while trying to compete graphically with PC games.

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#114 FoxbatAlpha
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@GrenadeLauncher: yeah that one. It's on hiatus now in Aruba. Soaking some sun, scoping babes and powering brews. When it returns...........look out.

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#115 PAL360
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Poor X1 owners lol

This is odd though! Sure, X1 is not as powerful ans PS4, but it's still like 10 times more powerful than 360 and PS3. It should do 1080p60 easily.

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#116  Edited By -Damien-
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720PTLHBO

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#117 Scipio8
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This thread would have been mildly entertaining if only I cared about MGS. I stopped playing after the first on my PSone.

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#118  Edited By X_CAPCOM_X
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@Scipio8: If you're going to stop at any MGS game, I recommend playing to MGS2 and stopping there.

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#119 GrenadeLauncher
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

@GrenadeLauncher: yeah that one. It's on hiatus now in Aruba. Soaking some sun, scoping babes and powering brews. When it returns...........look out.


What a relief! I thought I'd never see that pop again. Soon we will be reunited.

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#120 D4RKL1NG
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

I will just have to rely on the superior upscaler to give me 1080p again. Just like every other multiplat, the differences will be minimal.

This or I just may barricade myself in a walmart and take hostages. Lol

You're an alright guy Foxbat. Only lem that's not trying to hard.

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#121 ni6htmare01
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SW is kind of boring now a day! It use to be a 50/50 matches with Cow vs Lems now is so 1 sided is not even funny lol I hope Titanfall will be a strong push for Xb1 and bring some fire back to the lems lol

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#122 littlestreakier
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I think Konami did the right thing with XB1. 60 FPS is more important than 1080p. Good thing I went with PS4 first and can get the best of both worlds. Also to people saying there is no difference between 720p and 1080p, that's just flat out wrong. If your TV is around 50" or higher you can easily see the difference.

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#123  Edited By Opus_Rea-333
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

I will just have to rely on the superior upscaler to give me 1080p again. Just like every other multiplat, the differences will be minimal.

This or I just may barricade myself in a walmart and take hostages. Lol

Thats fine i would much rather have 60FPS for this type of game than higher res.

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#125 littlestreakier
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@Opus_Rea-333: I know it's not a price drop but Target has a free $50 gift card when you buy the XB1 console. Might want to look into it. Basically get a free game when you buy the console.

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#126 Floppy_Jim
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This could get dull, 8th gen is too one sided.

On the other hand: BAHAHAHAHAHA JESUS CHRIST

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#129  Edited By deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

I will just have to rely on the superior upscaler to give me 1080p again. Just like every other multiplat, the differences will be minimal.

This or I just may barricade myself in a walmart and take hostages. Lol

Shame the upscaler is all blurry now.

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#130 2mrw
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I hate pictures for comparisons, anyway, it was a shock for me to see that much of a difference, the X1 isn't that weak. From the look of it, things won't get any better for the X1 in the near future.

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#131 Suppaman100
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@TheGuardian03 said:

for japan, hope we get something similar.

Must have

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#133  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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@Opus_Rea-333 said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

I will just have to rely on the superior upscaler to give me 1080p again. Just like every other multiplat, the differences will be minimal.

This or I just may barricade myself in a walmart and take hostages. Lol

Thats fine i would much rather have 60FPS for this type of game than higher res.

Here comes the bargaining.

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#134 tonitorsi
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The 720pBox.

PS4 has been inducing some legit crow-eating for the Lemmings after bashing the PS3 to hell and back last gen for multiplat difference, sales difference and games selling more on preferred platform.

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#135 Harisemo
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Last gen versions actually look pretty good. Everyone gets it by now that PS4 is more powerful so time to stop comparing every single game and you have to be blind to not see the difference between 360/Xbone

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#136 APiranhaAteMyVa
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This is likely to be standard for most games, the Xbone needs to take a hit somewhere either lower res or frame rate. I would actually prefer a hit in resolution if I had to choose, so Kojima made the right decision.

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#137 APiranhaAteMyVa
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@tonitorsi said:

The 720pBox.

PS4 has been inducing some legit crow-eating for the Lemmings after bashing the PS3 to hell and back last gen for multiplat difference, sales difference and games selling more on preferred platform.

Yeah pretty funny how everything flipped, especially as how lemmings was saying how the PS4 would need to be weak as Sony don't have any money. This gen there is no real challenge from Nintendo either, so looks like Sony are right back on top of thangs.

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#138 Cheleman
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Thats pretty fcking sad. Ground Zeros is just a glorified demo, and the xbo can't even handle that? LOL

how will it even handle the real thing, phantom pain? subHD, 30fps is my guess...

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#139  Edited By Opus_Rea-333
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@GrenadeLauncher said:
@Opus_Rea-333 said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

I will just have to rely on the superior upscaler to give me 1080p again. Just like every other multiplat, the differences will be minimal.

This or I just may barricade myself in a walmart and take hostages. Lol

Thats fine i would much rather have 60FPS for this type of game than higher res.

Here comes the bargaining.

Cute green cycle but i never said there was no difference between 720p and 1080p.

Like i said I rather have 60FPS for shooters if XBONE cant handle both at the same time like most PS4 games.

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#140 Nightflash28
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@TheGuardian03 said:

Look at behind the sign, the shadow is actually better in the ps3 version. also the ground looks muddier for some reason.

Yeah, it looks like mud, while on the PS4 is looks more like wet gravel.
Check out the sand bags and tents in the background, though.

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#141  Edited By edwardecl
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Ouch, I though the difference would be minor. Sucks to be an Xbox One owner...

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#142 NFJSupreme
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As to be expected.

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#143 NFJSupreme
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@X_CAPCOM_X: you are one of few here who get it.

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#144  Edited By Wickerman777
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@PAL360 said:

Poor X1 owners lol

This is odd though! Sure, X1 is not as powerful ans PS4, but it's still like 10 times more powerful than 360 and PS3. It should do 1080p60 easily.

No, it isn't. That's PR bs. Yes, it does have over 10 times as much RAM but to most people, including me, the GPU is where the real meat of the console is and the GPU in X1 is approximately 5X as powerful as the one in X360, not 10X. The GPU in PS4 is approximately 7X as powerful as the one in X360. MS (And even Sony) likes to avoid the numbers and talk about "efficiency" when spinning their way to their 10X as powerful nonsense but the reality is X1 is 5X as powerful as the previous gen, PS4 7X as powerful as the previous gen.

They both should have been 10X as powerful though, especially considering that the previous gen was 8 fargin years long! Epic Games campaigned for next-gen consoles that were truly 10X as powerful, which would have meant 2.5 tflops machines. But both companies flipped Epic the bird and focused on profitability instead. Everybody keeps making out like PS4 is so fantastic but it really isn't. It's underpowered compared to what it should have been. X1, meanwhile, is extremely underpowered, so much so that it makes PS4 seem better than what it is.

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#145 shawn30
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I'm fine with the resolution issue as the PS4 is simply more powerful hardware/specs wise than the One and even as both are better optimized and improve a gap will remain. That is simply fact, not worth fighting over. What pisses me off the most is the way Kojima doesn't express to Xbox fans how he is working hard to produce the best version of his game he can on the console and how his team wants to ensure its a high quality production. Its like he says "The PS4 version is the best and we aren't talking about the other ones, but we will try to make a few bucks off of them." I get that there's a power difference and the PS4 version will run the best, especially seeing as its the lead platform. But since you are developing for Xbox One and some of us are MGS fans he might want to reassure us they are working tirelessly to produce a great version of the game cause right now I see no reason to buy this. IW and Dice both admitted what version of CoD and BF had the better specs, but when out of their way to assure owners of the other console they were vested in producing a very high quality game and that mattered to me far more than resolution. So far no MGS for me, ether this glorified demo or the Phantom Pain.

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#146  Edited By edwardecl
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@shawn30: I thought MGSV was promoted at at a Microsoft event... that's not enough? You can't say they didn't try, other wise you can say the same thing about Titanfall not being 1080p @60FPS. If an exclusive game can't do it right then you can't blame anyone else. Maybe if they used 2D crowds they could do 1080p though...

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#147 Suppaman100
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@GrenadeLauncher said:
@Opus_Rea-333 said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

I will just have to rely on the superior upscaler to give me 1080p again. Just like every other multiplat, the differences will be minimal.

This or I just may barricade myself in a walmart and take hostages. Lol

Thats fine i would much rather have 60FPS for this type of game than higher res.

Here comes the bargaining.

LMFAO, the last one is a perfect description for some lemmings.

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#148 shawn30
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@edwardecl said:

@shawn30: I thought MGSV was promoted at at a Microsoft event... that's not enough? You can't say they didn't try, other wise you can say the same thing about Titanfall not being 1080p @60FPS. If an exclusive game can't do it right then you can't blame anyone else. Maybe if they used 2D crowds they could do 1080p though...

It was but that was nearly 8 months ago. What I'm saying is I'm not hating on whatever resolution and framerate the game comes in at. But I'd love to hear him speak on how they are optimizing and genuine give a damn that they will achieve the best performance available for the console. I get that multiplats will perform better on PS4. I just don't give a damn enough about resolution to care. But I do care that the dev give a damn about me enough to express they are working hard to give my platform the best it can be. The makers of BF and CoD and Titnfall are all doing that and even with the resolution differences I'm enjoying and bought the games. That's my point. People can fight all day about 1080p. It didn't make me buy killzone. It hasn't sparked me to pick up a PS4 for Infamous. But Titanfall is on everyone's lips and its not the best looking game at all. Its simply one of the best playing.

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#150 IamAdorable
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The difference is definitely noticeable this time around. The Ps4 is more powerful.
That doesn't mean much though. Both systems will get a stream of great games, and that's all I want.