MGS: GZ is less than 2 hours - Kojima Defends

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#51 Heil68
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Hmmm. may just Gamefly it.

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#52 JangoWuzHere
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It also says that they experimented with the extra modes. It doesn't say that they finished that stuff. Who knows how much side content is in the game.

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#53  Edited By PSP107
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Does it have MGO?

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#54 Mickeyminime
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all MGS games are short, its only long if you watch the cut scenes

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#55  Edited By Kaze_no_Mirai
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@Heil68: Same here. I'll just put my cash towards Second Son instead.

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#56  Edited By gago-gago
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I haven't been keeping with Metal Gear news, so Ground Zeroes is an intro to Phantom Pain? No wonder all I've seen is that camp mission. Maybe thats the only location? lol

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#57 deactivated-58319077a6477
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gonna wait for Phantom Pain which will most likely come out next year, since i'm 100% sure Ground Zero will be included with it.

i don't want to pay twice for it even if it is cheap.

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#58  Edited By deactivated-5851fca92f6f5
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The thread got updated, it now says they finished the core game in 2 hours.

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#59 zeroyaoi
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I like metal gear, but I'm not paying $30 for that.

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#60 Kingpin0114
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@EtherealMachine said:

The thread got updated, it now says they finished the core game in 2 hours.

So it's basically a demo. I hope this bombs.

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#61 g0ddyX
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Too long a cutscene they said... lol. Looks like they kind of fixed that.

This game is a setup for the main game.
Still going to get it, if anything like MGS, it will end on a high and the boards will be full of theories and speculations.

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#62 Couth_
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@Kingpin0114 said:

@EtherealMachine said:

The thread got updated, it now says they finished the core game in 2 hours.

So it's basically a demo. I hope this bombs.

Easy for most people to pass on it. Pretty sure it will be INCLUDED in Phantom Pain for the normal $60 price..

Can't really blame kojima either. Talking about a fan base that bought Zone of Enders on PS2 JUST to play the MGS2 demo.. It will probably do decent and see some nice price drops before Phantom Pain comes out

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#63 Rage010101
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Boo!

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#64 MrYaotubo
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Pathetic.

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#65 JangoWuzHere
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@Couth_ said:

@Kingpin0114 said:

@EtherealMachine said:

The thread got updated, it now says they finished the core game in 2 hours.

So it's basically a demo. I hope this bombs.

Easy for most people to pass on it. Pretty sure it will be INCLUDED in Phantom Pain for the normal $60 price..

I seriously doubt that when they can profit off two releases.

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#66  Edited By gago-gago
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Hopefully there will be a discount code or something with GZ to make PP cheaper.

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#67  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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I just read that the main mission only took 2 hours to complete, so 4 hours was being extremely generous because that includes the bonus crap. That is a joke. Can't see how any one could complain about Tomb Raider and then pay $40 for this.

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#68 donalbane
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It sounds like he's doing a test to see how people respond to the new direction so he can make the full length game exactly what people want. Sound like a good idea after numerous longtime fans hated MGS4 (which I loved).

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#69 Ballroompirate
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@seanmcloughlin said:

@PonchoTaco said:

Wasn't the original MGS super short too?

MGS1 on playstation? That game is really damn long

You can speed run through MGS1, people can beat it under an hour and a half. I mean hell I can beat RE2 in under an hour.

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#70  Edited By Gue1
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if you skip the cut-scenes every single MGS game is 4-5 hours long.

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#71  Edited By biggest_loser
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Eurogamer is reporting that it takes under 2 hours to finish and they want $30 EU for it.

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#72  Edited By SolidTy
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@seanmcloughlin said:

@W1NGMAN- said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

@PonchoTaco said:

Wasn't the original MGS super short too?

MGS1 on playstation? That game is really damn long

No it's not :/ ... It's about a 5 hour game, 7 or 8 without skipping cut scenes.

Well I haven't played it in years so maybe my memory is clouded. It feels like it was longer

I think most first time playthroughs I've seen with friends memory cards were in the 11-15 hour mark. That's goofing around and exploring though and that's 90's when it was new, before Youtube walkthroughs and the like.

I was able to get subsequent playthroughs back then under 12 hours (10ish?, it's been years and I don't remember the specifics) without skipping, but with skipping, he's right it can be short if doing a speed run and knowing every nook and cranny, where to turn, where to shoot, etc.

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#73 lglz1337
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this is bullshit i am a huge MGS fan, but will not buy this 4 hours lmao gtfo

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#74 Mr-Kutaragi
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Seems to have very high production value and MGS always have good replayability, so this does not bother me. Console game drop price very fast also with use game market.

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#75  Edited By finalstar2007
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Other websites are saying its only two hours long... im all for a short game as long as its good but 2 hours for $30? i'll probably just save the money till its $15 or $20

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#76  Edited By gago-gago
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I wouldn't be surprised if this will be a bigger seller than Second Son on the pS4.

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#77  Edited By UnbiasedGamerGS
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Phantom pain better cost $30 then.

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#78  Edited By Gaming-Planet
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Gameplay has been replaced with QTE's.

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#79 ShepardCommandr
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Still buying it

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#80 Infinite_Access
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Look what happens when you launch a MGS on the xbox one! :P

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#81 ldustin
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I think that game length is overrated. Some of the best games of my childhood would really only take me a couple of hours to beat, but I've played them for so many more hours than that.

More games need to get back to focusing on replayability.

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#84  Edited By deactivated-59b71619573a1
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So apparently new updates came from GI and they actually did the main mission in 2 hours. The other 2 hours were spent dicking around with other modes

Judged just by the core story mission, Ground Zeroes is short," Game Informer writes in the cover story (only available in the magazine, not online). "We completed it in just less than two hours

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#85 Ballroompirate
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@seanmcloughlin: Did they say what game modes they messed around in?

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#87  Edited By Cheleman
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The original information is also correct. The Xbox One version is the one that last 4 hours because it runs at half the framerates.

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#88 RageQuitter69
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@m_machine024 said:

Hmm 4 hours including the cutscenes?

I would want to hope not, if that is the case, the gameplay time would be measurable in minutes, it would only have one hour of gameplay at the most.

Assuming it is not including the cutscenes, I am not surprised and I struggle to see how anyone else is surprised, Metal Gear Solid 4 only had 4-5 hours of gameplay when the cutscenes were skipped, yet since everyone jumped on board the Story Whore Express, everyone was too delusional to see that. It may be half price but it's still not worth it for that little gameplay, in the same manner as Metal Gear Solid 4 was never worth anything close to it's original price tag. I wonder if this includes an online mode where you have to pay real money for extra content rather than unlocking and where you have to pay real money for something as basic as a new character slot (CoD and sports games may be cash grabbers but Metal Gear Solid is no better).

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@Ballroompirate: didn't really see. Just saw an update on GAF and updated this one.

Dont know if its other game modes or difficulty modes or what

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#90  Edited By Ballroompirate
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@seanmcloughlin said:

@Ballroompirate: didn't really see. Just saw an update on GAF and updated this one.

Dont know if its other game modes or difficulty modes or what

You disappoint me

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#91 Boddicker
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

God, I hope this will finally stop the Weeaboos from begging for a sip of Kojima-san's bathwater. Somehow I know all of his apologists will come out of the woodwork after the launch.

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#92 zeeshanhaider
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@Boddicker said:

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

God, I hope this will finally stop the Weeaboos from begging for a sip of Kojima-san's bathwater. Somehow I know all of his apologists will come out of the woodwork after the launch.

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#93 Bread_or_Decide
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@seanmcloughlin said:

@PonchoTaco said:

Wasn't the original MGS super short too?

MGS1 on playstation? That game is really damn long

My second play through was four hours. I think my first was five or six. MGS is a short short game.

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#94 lightleggy
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@seanmcloughlin said:

@PonchoTaco said:

Wasn't the original MGS super short too?

MGS1 on playstation? That game is really damn long

No it wasn't.

The GS review summary even said how the game could be beaten in 4 hours.

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#95  Edited By Zaraxius
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@seanmcloughlin said:

@PonchoTaco said:

Wasn't the original MGS super short too?

MGS1 on playstation? That game is really damn long

The last time you played that game, you must've been young. The average is apparently only 11 hours long and 14 hours to complete everything in the game.

Source: Link.

Also, I love how Jeff Gerstmann wrote that terrible review where he said, "Once you know exactly what to do and skip as many cut-scenes as possible, you can complete the game in three hours or less," as if the game is bad because you can speed-run it really quick. As if you couldn't do the same for games The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, Super Mario 64, etc. I am by no means a huge Metal Gear Solid fan, but that review was fucking terrible.

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#96 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Yeah yeah I admitted earlier in the thread that I hadn't played the game in like 12 years and nostalgia clouded my judgement

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#97  Edited By Shottayouth13-
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Dat next gen powa!

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#98 AznbkdX
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What a rip off. This crap should be 5-10 bucks tops.

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#99  Edited By deactivated-59b71619573a1
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@AznbkdX said:

What a rip off. This crap should be 5-10 bucks tops.

Exactly, the devs even came out and defended the game length saying stuff like "Dear Esther was only a few hours long but was a masterpiece". But Dear Esther was $10 not fucking $30-$40.

If the game cost $15 I bet you nobody would care this much about length

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#100  Edited By AznbkdX
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@seanmcloughlin said:

@AznbkdX said:

What a rip off. This crap should be 5-10 bucks tops.

Exactly, the devs even came out and defended the game length saying stuff like "Dear Esther was only a few hours long but was a masterpiece". But Dear Esther was $10 not fucking $30-$40.

If the game cost $15 I bet you nobody would care this much about length

I agree. The sad thing is that this might actually sell at least moderately. It's basically only there to quench fans, in which some are crazy enough to waste their money on inferior tech demos like this.