MGS2 was Prophetical Genius. Years later re watching the codecs are CHILLING!

I think Kojima is very well aware of the NWO.

Is it possible to have a Metal Gear thread without people saying "My favourite is X, but Y is the worst game ever made, I'm a huge fan of games A, but game B was so disappointing!"

Is it possible to have a Metal Gear thread without people saying "My favourite is X, but Y is the worst game ever made, I'm a huge fan of games A, but game B was so disappointing!"

Mozelleple112

The problem with MGS2 is that there was too much of Raiden and too little of Snake in it. :cool:

Is it possible to have a Metal Gear thread without people saying "My favourite is X, but Y is the worst game ever made, I'm a huge fan of games A, but game B was so disappointing!"

Mozelleple112

.... 3>2>1>4

MGS3 > MGS2

When we were young we didn't really get it. Years later listening to the conversations again and it's creepy how prophetical and chilling Kojima designed the game. You have the hater baddies just call it convoluted, truth is they just weren't bright enough to understand the critique, the prophecy. While the game is and claims it's solely a work of fiction, it's creepy how close it hit home. - MGS is BY FAR the deepest videogame series of all time, it's mixture of reality and fiction, prophecy and moral lessons are unmatched in gaming, it's branching and evololution is unparralel. All this in an action'esque game, not some boring turn based RPG with a million lines of text. - Truly remarkable. - Watch in awe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_W4EV-ikJY Some random quotes for nostalgia: "Raiden turn off the console now" --- "Fission Mailed" :D - Dangers of Censorship, evil big corrupt corporations, this game was a total mind****. What a trip. AlistarHP

It is your opinion.

For the rest of us: No, it is not.

Yeah, I remember a huge topic about this on reddit a few months back. It is pretty amazing.

Oh, and...MGS2>MGS3. :twisted:Just putting that out there. Bring on the flames!

The voice acting is awful.

[QUOTE="AlistarHP"]When we were young we didn't really get it. Years later listening to the conversations again and it's creepy how prophetical and chilling Kojima designed the game. You have the hater baddies just call it convoluted, truth is they just weren't bright enough to understand the critique, the prophecy. While the game is and claims it's solely a work of fiction, it's creepy how close it hit home. - MGS is BY FAR the deepest videogame series of all time, it's mixture of reality and fiction, prophecy and moral lessons are unmatched in gaming, it's branching and evololution is unparralel. All this in an action'esque game, not some boring turn based RPG with a million lines of text. - Truly remarkable. - Watch in awe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_W4EV-ikJY Some random quotes for nostalgia: "Raiden turn off the console now" --- "Fission Mailed" :D - Dangers of Censorship, evil big corrupt corporations, this game was a total mind****. What a trip. _TheJoker_

It is your opinion.

For the rest of us: No, it is not.

Anyone who didn't think MGS2 was deep didn't understand what they were seeing. The dialogue isn't exactly ace but it does say some very interesting things. I played it for the first time last year and I couldn't believe the parallels. Hell, the government is trying to censor the internet as we speak. Although I wasn't a part of it, I think it was incredible that Kojima lead everyone to believe that Snake was the star going as far as to replace Raiden in cutscenes with Snake. Everyone felt comforatable in the first mission, then everything was turned on its head, just like when you learn about how the patriots have been controlling everything. Its masterful. I'll never forget the game ordering me to turn off the system. MGS3 is my favorite in the series but MGS2 is the best.

If there was less of Raiden, I think more people would have liked MGS2

For me, MGS2 is the best... mainly cos of the return of liquid.

Everything Kojima does, is genius.

Awesome moment..

"BROOOOTHHHHERRR"

Anyone who didn't think MGS2 was deep didn't understand what they were seeing. The dialogue isn't exactly ace but it does say some very interesting things. I played it for the first time last year and I couldn't believe the parallels. Hell, the government is trying to censor the internet as we speak. Although I wasn't a part of it, I think it was incredible that Kojima lead everyone to believe that Snake was the star going as far as to replace Raiden in cutscenes with Snake. Everyone felt comforatable in the first mission, then everything was turned on its head, just like when you learn about how the patriots have been controlling everything. Its masterful. I'll never forget the game ordering me to turn off the system. MGS3 is my favorite in the series but MGS2 is the best.

RandomWinner

Well.... this is the COD generation after all.

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Is it possible to have a Metal Gear thread without people saying "My favourite is X, but Y is the worst game ever made, I'm a huge fan of games A, but game B was so disappointing!"

Mozelleple112

Is it possible to have a Metal Gear thread without people saying "My favourite is X, but Y is the worst game ever made, I'm a huge fan of games A, but game B was so disappointing!"

Mozelleple112

Why so vague. Lets fix that shall we..

Is it possible to have a Metal Gear thread without people saying "My favourite is MGS2/3, but 4is the worst game ever made, I'm a huge fan of games 1-3, but game MGS4 was so disappointing!"

yes yes everyone that has ever pooped themselves must be chilled by uncanny Nostradamus like prophesying.

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Is it possible to have a Metal Gear thread without people saying "My favourite is X, but Y is the worst game ever made, I'm a huge fan of games A, but game B was so disappointing!"

RandomWinner

Why so vague. Lets fix that shall we..

Is it possible to have a Metal Gear thread without people saying "My favourite is MGS2/3, but 4is the worst game ever made, I'm a huge fan of games 1-3, but game MGS4 was so disappointing!"

MGS2's story was dumb, ESPECIALLY at the end.Silverbond

MGS2's story was dumb, ESPECIALLY at the end.Silverbond

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]MGS2's story was dumb, ESPECIALLY at the end.dracolich55

@ TC I liked MGS2 I even liked Raiden at least they were trying some thing different

As for the codec conversation its funny that some of what they were talking about has started to happen albeit on a smaller scale lol

[QUOTE="dracolich55"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]MGS2's story was dumb, ESPECIALLY at the end.Silverbond

George Orwell was more of a Prophetical Genius than Kojima ever was

George was about 40 years ahead of his time.

[QUOTE="AlistarHP"]When we were young we didn't really get it. Years later listening to the conversations again and it's creepy how prophetical and chilling Kojima designed the game. You have the hater baddies just call it convoluted, truth is they just weren't bright enough to understand the critique, the prophecy. While the game is and claims it's solely a work of fiction, it's creepy how close it hit home. - MGS is BY FAR the deepest videogame series of all time, it's mixture of reality and fiction, prophecy and moral lessons are unmatched in gaming, it's branching and evololution is unparralel. All this in an action'esque game, not some boring turn based RPG with a million lines of text. - Truly remarkable. - Watch in awe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_W4EV-ikJY Some random quotes for nostalgia: "Raiden turn off the console now" --- "Fission Mailed" :D - Dangers of Censorship, evil big corrupt corporations, this game was a total mind****. What a trip. _TheJoker_

It is your opinion.

For the rest of us: No, it is not.

they irony of this post, you say hes wrong for generalizing and you do it too.

The way people praise Kojima and the MGS franchise is...disturbing.

One of my favorite franchises last gen, i really liked the game...but i think they are far from being the best gaming has to offer, not to mention they should just leave the plot the way it is, i want MGS5 but i wan't a new setting or a new plot, give the Cobra Unit in WW2 and then we talk.

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Is it possible to have a Metal Gear thread without people saying "My favourite is X, but Y is the worst game ever made, I'm a huge fan of games A, but game B was so disappointing!"

Mozelleple112

Why so vague. Lets fix that shall we..

Is it possible to have a Metal Gear thread without people saying "My favourite is MGS2/3, but 4is the worst game ever made, I'm a huge fan of games 1-3, but game MGS4 was so disappointing!"

Ah you got me, MGS3 is the fan favorite, I threw in my own love for MGS2. I agree with IGN, GS criminally underrated MGS1 and MGS3. I say MGS4, no matter how you slice it, should be the lowest in the series. I think the gameplay is the best, but the story is a mess (whereas MGS2's wasn't!)