MGS4 characters are made out of max 5000-10000 polygons even Snake and Otacon!

Its all in here straight from Kojima and team themselfs, end. Lower amount of polygons than Gears 1 (8000-15000)!

http://www.softimage.com/products/xsi/customer_stories/metal_gear_4/default.aspx

"Most of the characters that are animated on the console, including the main character, Snake, have been restricted to a data size (including the face model) of about 5,000 to 10,000 polygons. Further, characters are used that have the same polygon resolution in both the game action and the event demos."

anyone that thinks MGS4 is the graphics king is just a hardcore MGS fan, or a PS3 fan wanting to justify purchase.

it is OFFICIAL that the game was rendered in sub-HD resolutions and upscaled, many many many tricks were implemented to make the game appear to have next gen visuals when in truth the resolution and poly counts are closer to last gen PC titles due to some bottlenecks in the PS3.

this has been covered to death in AVS forums and places where people count pixels. funny the double standard cows love to apply - hyping the 1080p to death, bashing games that are sub-1080p on 360, then hyping MGS4 as the visual king when it is just glorified 665p (but not authentic as it cheats on some V pixels)

God, this is really getting annoying and out of hand...Chutebox

SW is series business. Can't handle the heat?

anyone that thinks MGS4 is the graphics king is just a hardcore MGS fan, or a PS3 fan wanting to justify purchase.

it is OFFICIAL that the game was rendered in sub-HD resolutions and upscaled, many many many tricks were implemented to make the game appear to have next gen visuals when in truth the resolution and poly counts are closer to last gen PC titles due to some bottlenecks in the PS3.

this has been covered to death in AVS forums and places where people count pixels. funny the double standard cows love to apply - hyping the 1080p to death, bashing games that are sub-1080p on 360, then hyping MGS4 as the visual king when it is just glorified 665p (but not authentic as it cheats on some V pixels)

3picuri3

Sounds like you have yet to play the game, that's too bad man

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

anyone that thinks MGS4 is the graphics king is just a hardcore MGS fan, or a PS3 fan wanting to justify purchase.

it is OFFICIAL that the game was rendered in sub-HD resolutions and upscaled, many many many tricks were implemented to make the game appear to have next gen visuals when in truth the resolution and poly counts are closer to last gen PC titles due to some bottlenecks in the PS3.

this has been covered to death in AVS forums and places where people count pixels. funny the double standard cows love to apply - hyping the 1080p to death, bashing games that are sub-1080p on 360, then hyping MGS4 as the visual king when it is just glorified 665p (but not authentic as it cheats on some V pixels)

unholymight

Sounds like you have yet to play the game, that's too bad man

sounds like you're a fan of specious reasoning :) i have played it, i'm talking bare bone fact here pal, playing it doesn't change what it is. welcome to reality!

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]God, this is really getting annoying and out of hand...tccavey2

SW is series business. Can't handle the heat?

The whole first page of SW is graphics thread....come on!!!!

[QUOTE="tccavey2"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]God, this is really getting annoying and out of hand...Chutebox

SW is series business. Can't handle the heat?

The whole first page of SW is graphics thread....come on!!!!

I agree, it's really getting pathetic. People pretend one game looks like trash and another game is a graphical masterpiece when in reality, they're pretty equal.

cows are complaining about graphics threads because they just realized the ps3 isn't the graphical powerhouse they thought it was. they had no problems with graphics threads before this.mephisto_11

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="tccavey2"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]God, this is really getting annoying and out of hand...Floppy_Jim

SW is series business. Can't handle the heat?

The whole first page of SW is graphics thread....come on!!!!

I agree, it's really getting pathetic. People pretend one game looks like trash and another game is a graphical masterpiece when in reality, they're pretty equal.

welcome to the most shallow generation of gaming, brought to you by spoiled kids with rich parents that don't care about gameplay and just want things that are visually stunning and amazing. the ones that say 'omg, it does not suck, graffix are awesome!'. the market is driven by these people - by people that put form over substance. we've been lucky this gen and had a few games where the gameplay nearly matches the presentation - but more often than not they're just shallow pretty things (Uncharted, i'm looking at you) that only last the length of an epic film, or two short films.

i'll take the gameplay over visuals any day. i only point out MGS4 low resolution to point out the hypocrisy of others. i personally don't enjoy the game because i can't stand the story, and don't enjoy the gameplay at all.

Its all in here straight from Kojima and team themselfs, end. Lower amount of polygons than Gears 1 (8000-15000)!

http://www.softimage.com/products/xsi/customer_stories/metal_gear_4/default.aspx

"Most of the characters that are animated on the console, including the main character, Snake, have been restricted to a data size (including the face model) of about 5,000 to 10,000 polygons. Further, characters are used that have the same polygon resolution in both the game action and the event demos."

IgorVitaly

2 and a half months after the game released and your still mad?

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="tccavey2"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]God, this is really getting annoying and out of hand...Floppy_Jim

SW is series business. Can't handle the heat?

The whole first page of SW is graphics thread....come on!!!!

I agree, it's really getting pathetic. People pretend one game looks like trash and another game is a graphical masterpiece when in reality, they're pretty equal.

Yeah I know. But then again, what else is there to argue about? Just about every topic that could be argued about video game systems in a forum has already been covered at least a thousand times...

cows are complaining about graphics threads because they just realized the ps3 isn't the graphical powerhouse they thought it was. they had no problems with graphics threads before this.mephisto_11

Hey man, if you really believe that, more power to ya.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]God, this is really getting annoying and out of hand...tccavey2

SW is series business. Can't handle the heat?

Serious business and a choke point for humanity.

[QUOTE="IgorVitaly"]

Its all in here straight from Kojima and team themselfs, end. Lower amount of polygons than Gears 1 (8000-15000)!

http://www.softimage.com/products/xsi/customer_stories/metal_gear_4/default.aspx

"Most of the characters that are animated on the console, including the main character, Snake, have been restricted to a data size (including the face model) of about 5,000 to 10,000 polygons. Further, characters are used that have the same polygon resolution in both the game action and the event demos."

Haku_Ryushi

2 and a half months after the game released and your still mad?

2 and a half months after the game released and your still cant hold the tears back?

[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="IgorVitaly"]

Its all in here straight from Kojima and team themselfs, end. Lower amount of polygons than Gears 1 (8000-15000)!

http://www.softimage.com/products/xsi/customer_stories/metal_gear_4/default.aspx

"Most of the characters that are animated on the console, including the main character, Snake, have been restricted to a data size (including the face model) of about 5,000 to 10,000 polygons. Further, characters are used that have the same polygon resolution in both the game action and the event demos."

IgorVitaly

2 and a half months after the game released and your still mad?

2 and a half months after the game released and your still defensive?

*yawn* thats it?

MGS4 had good character models and you tell me those character models have lower polygons then gears? :lol: like I said MGS4 is extremely overrated graphically

Polygons! Yay! Do they make a game? Do they even make graphics? I dought it.plod2

Its funny, no hilarious after teh PS3 fans all talked about X amount of polygons and how it makes it look so good. And how the characters are so high polygon and same in other games. Guess broken dreams are sharp! ;)

[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="IgorVitaly"]

Its all in here straight from Kojima and team themselfs, end. Lower amount of polygons than Gears 1 (8000-15000)!

http://www.softimage.com/products/xsi/customer_stories/metal_gear_4/default.aspx

"Most of the characters that are animated on the console, including the main character, Snake, have been restricted to a data size (including the face model) of about 5,000 to 10,000 polygons. Further, characters are used that have the same polygon resolution in both the game action and the event demos."

IgorVitaly

2 and a half months after the game released and your still mad?

2 and a half months after the game released and your still cant hold the tears back?

What? That didn't even make sense.

As a fan of both games I have to say even with the so called "lower" polygon level in MGS4 than Gears, Snake has a better character model detail and textures than Marcus. The face and the hair looks better too. MY OPINION. I'm probably gonna get flamed anyway...Haku_Ryushi

[QUOTE="IgorVitaly"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="IgorVitaly"]

Its all in here straight from Kojima and team themselfs, end. Lower amount of polygons than Gears 1 (8000-15000)!

http://www.softimage.com/products/xsi/customer_stories/metal_gear_4/default.aspx

"Most of the characters that are animated on the console, including the main character, Snake, have been restricted to a data size (including the face model) of about 5,000 to 10,000 polygons. Further, characters are used that have the same polygon resolution in both the game action and the event demos."

Haku_Ryushi

2 and a half months after the game released and your still mad?

2 and a half months after the game released and your still defensive?

*yawn* thats it?

Just waking out from you "cow" coma? ;)

Polygons! Yay! Do they make a game? Do they even make graphics? I dought it.plod2

um. is that a joke post? if not i think it's sig worthy, lol.

Wait, so people are counting polygons now?

I'd never thought I'd say something like this to a person, considering i visit these boards myself, but TC, get a life.

That 10 must really hurt :lol:

Characters look great in MGS4. Why should I care if they have less polygons?

I'd like to see Fable 2 get a 10 to see how long Cows damage control.

[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="IgorVitaly"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="IgorVitaly"]

Its all in here straight from Kojima and team themselfs, end. Lower amount of polygons than Gears 1 (8000-15000)!

http://www.softimage.com/products/xsi/customer_stories/metal_gear_4/default.aspx

"Most of the characters that are animated on the console, including the main character, Snake, have been restricted to a data size (including the face model) of about 5,000 to 10,000 polygons. Further, characters are used that have the same polygon resolution in both the game action and the event demos."

IgorVitaly

2 and a half months after the game released and your still mad?

2 and a half months after the game released and your still defensive?

*yawn* thats it?

Just waking out from you "cow" coma? ;)

Ah the sweet irony

[QUOTE="IgorVitaly"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="IgorVitaly"]

Its all in here straight from Kojima and team themselfs, end. Lower amount of polygons than Gears 1 (8000-15000)!

http://www.softimage.com/products/xsi/customer_stories/metal_gear_4/default.aspx

"Most of the characters that are animated on the console, including the main character, Snake, have been restricted to a data size (including the face model) of about 5,000 to 10,000 polygons. Further, characters are used that have the same polygon resolution in both the game action and the event demos."

Chutebox

2 and a half months after the game released and your still mad?

2 and a half months after the game released and your still cant hold the tears back?

What? That didn't even make sense.

My god what makes sense in this forum? barely nothing but I gladdly throw a molotv from now andthen, becouse this forum has given me some massive laughs of godlike scope.

That 10 must really hurt :lol:

Characters look great in MGS4. Why should I care if they have less polygons?

I'd like to see Fable 2 get a 10 to see how long Cows damage control.

Mongo-Boss

[QUOTE="Mongo-Boss"]

That 10 must really hurt :lol:

Characters look great in MGS4. Why should I care if they have less polygons?

I'd like to see Fable 2 get a 10 to see how long Cows damage control.

kentaro22

That would be epic. I want to see it happen. But I don't think it will sadly. 8.5 at most.

[QUOTE="Mongo-Boss"]

That 10 must really hurt :lol:

Characters look great in MGS4. Why should I care if they have less polygons?

I'd like to see Fable 2 get a 10 to see how long Cows damage control.

kentaro22

It got a 10 in graphics?

then the scale is broken!!! Doom 3 also got 10 @@

[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="IgorVitaly"]

Its all in here straight from Kojima and team themselfs, end. Lower amount of polygons than Gears 1 (8000-15000)!

http://www.softimage.com/products/xsi/customer_stories/metal_gear_4/default.aspx

"Most of the characters that are animated on the console, including the main character, Snake, have been restricted to a data size (including the face model) of about 5,000 to 10,000 polygons. Further, characters are used that have the same polygon resolution in both the game action and the event demos."

IgorVitaly

2 and a half months after the game released and your still mad?

2 and a half months after the game released and your still cant hold the tears back?

If you're talking about tears of joy then YES! :D

[QUOTE="kentaro22"][QUOTE="Mongo-Boss"]

That 10 must really hurt :lol:

Characters look great in MGS4. Why should I care if they have less polygons?

I'd like to see Fable 2 get a 10 to see how long Cows damage control.

Haku_Ryushi

That would be epic. I want to see it happen. But I don't think it will sadly. 8.5 at most.

So then it will look worse according to "the score set by random sites and reviewers is the guidance for my soul" fans?

[QUOTE="kentaro22"][QUOTE="Mongo-Boss"]

That 10 must really hurt :lol:

Characters look great in MGS4. Why should I care if they have less polygons?

I'd like to see Fable 2 get a 10 to see how long Cows damage control.

IgorVitaly

It got a 10 in graphics?

then the scale is broken!!! Doom 3 also got 10 @@

You take things way too seriously. Lighten up.

[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="kentaro22"][QUOTE="Mongo-Boss"]

That 10 must really hurt :lol:

Characters look great in MGS4. Why should I care if they have less polygons?

I'd like to see Fable 2 get a 10 to see how long Cows damage control.

IgorVitaly

That would be epic. I want to see it happen. But I don't think it will sadly. 8.5 at most.

So then it will look worse according to "the score set by random sites and reviewers is the guidance for my soul" fans?

By the time I figure out what your post meant, it wont matter anymore.

lol@ lemmings bring up MGS4 threads, STILL!:lol: gdp72

Thats exactly wut i was saying.

You take things way too seriously. Lighten up.

Haku_Ryushi

The irony, its you who walked into this thread all serious!

You should know by now that I enjoy every reading in this forum for laughs, cheers me up and so does your posts buddy!

No really its funny knowing how the fans talking all high about polygon numbers in MGS4 gets a torn in their eye now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUwDx8HO11c

[QUOTE="mingo123"]

MGS4 had good character models and you tell me those character models have lower polygons then gears? :lol: like I said MGS4 is extremely overrated graphically

Haku_Ryushi

Why haven't you been banned yet? All you do is troll. I took a look at your posting history BTW.

how am I trolling? im just giving my opinion, just cause i said mgs4 is extremely overrated graphically means im trolling?