MGS4 Is The Best Game Of This Gen

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#1 DVDxUSB
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No proof or explanation required. /thread
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#3 Demonjoe93
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Well I'm glad we got that out of the way.

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#4 Inconsistancy
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You can't /thread the first post, there isn't any discussion if you do that.

And you're wrong, it's not the best game, it's a movie, and it's certainly not the best movie this gen

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#5 Guitar_Nemesis
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It's a great game, no doubt but not the best of this gen in my eyes.

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#6 balfe1990
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What an incredible waste of time, both for me and yourself.

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#7 foxhound_fox
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Nier disagrees.
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#8 Wii-U4Fun
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More like you can't give proof or reason.

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#9 madsnakehhh
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Super Mario Galaxy is the correct answer.

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#10 AcidSoldner
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Nier disagrees.foxhound_fox
Now you have it up to game of the generation? :|
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#11 balfe1990
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Super Mario Galaxy is the correct answer.

madsnakehhh

There's no correct answer.

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#12 pelvist
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No, but its certainly one of the most boring. Just another overrated game from an overrated game franchise IMO.

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#13 Blazerdt47
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TC I agree tremendously. I still have my MGS4 PS3 bundle. MGS4 is still my favorite game this gen. No other game has matched it yet.

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#14 woodenfork21
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no its not.

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#15 MLBknights58
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Perhaps the most persuasive argument I've ever read!

Thanks TC!

Andno, it's not.

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#16 Ironbash
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went to SMG2 /thread
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#17 hiphops_savior
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SMG and SMG2 are both ranked higher on Gamerankings. Try again.
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#18 Renegade_Fury
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So under the new rules I can call you a dumbass right?

Super Mario Galaxy 2 for me.

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#19 foxhound_fox
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Now you have it up to game of the generation? :|AcidSoldner
No. But why would it matter if I did? Am I not entitled to an opinion?
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#20 Animal-Mother
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I just beat MGS4 over the weekend and it truly is one of the best games of this gen. The best of the gen thats tough.

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#21 GTSaiyanjin2
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Its one of the best yeah. I liked it at least. Top 3 for me this gen.

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#22 DireOwl
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Yeah right. :lol:

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#23 AcidSoldner
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[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]Now you have it up to game of the generation? :|foxhound_fox
No. But why would it matter if I did? Am I not entitled to an opinion?

I didn't say that...
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#24 foxhound_fox
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I didn't say that...AcidSoldner
You seem to be implying it, being so confused a to why I would choose such a poorly-rated game as one of the best and most enjoyable I've played this entire gen.
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#25 Wiimotefan
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Nier disagrees.foxhound_fox

But you still haven't played MGS4, right?

Lucky for you, Nier is still a much more reasonable pick. I really wish you would play MGS4 though. You tend to have funny rants regarding bad games.

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#26 g0ddyX
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MGS4 hits on every note besides the online.

Pinnacle game of this generation and there are few worthy contenders too.
GTA4, Mass Effect, Demon Souls, Skyrim, Gears of War, Uncharted 2, Red Dead Redemption, Orange Box, Little Big Planet etc...

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#27 kuraimen
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I agree, although it also has to compete with Valkyria Chronicles, Persona 4 and Uncharted 2 for me.
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#28 AcidSoldner
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[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]I didn't say that...foxhound_fox
You seem to be implying it, being so confused a to why I would choose such a poorly-rated game as one of the best and most enjoyable I've played this entire gen.

Have I not expressed my enjoyment of the game as well? I just find it hard that such a seriously flawed game can be considered some one's "game of the generation."
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#29 MacaroniMoses
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That's just like...your opinion man!
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#30 ___gamemaster__
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agreed.

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#31 Wiimotefan
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MGS4 hits on every note besides the online.

g0ddyX

At least the game mechanics are somewhat suited for an online fragfest.

As for the single player how does it hit every note?

  • By telling a horribly written, horribly paced story that contradicts prior events in the series?
  • By ruining characters that were well established throughout the series and ignoring their prior developments?
  • By retconing major points in the series?
  • By caving in the universe and trying to connect dots were they dont meet? [spoiler] Like boiling down the Patriots to being the MGS3 support team? By acting as if Zero had the same love for The Boss as Big Boss did even though there was never any prior development or reasoning for that to be true? By saying that Paramedic is Dr. Clarke even though we knew that Dr. Clarke was a man and that Paramedic stood against all the types of atrocities that Clarke committed? There was NO development to even lead to such a conclusion that Paramedic transforms from a kind female to an insanely immoral man lol. Then Sigint is the Darpa Chief :lol: Yeah, the age, personality and voice surely line up, right? :roll: Oh and then Madnar has to get random mention out of nowhere for no reason as well. Horrible. Oh and lets bring in Big Boss for no reason and completely diminish his role both in life and in death from the previous games. [/spoiler]
  • How bout them Nanomachines, huh? They fix EVERYTHING! Lets forget that Liquid had two heartbeats in MGS2 and knew things that Ocelot couldn't. No, lets just chalk it up to Nanotherapy. And how bout that Vamp? So nanos made him heal so fast that he can recover from a bullet to the head? ok. How did nanos explain the fact that he could float around in low buoyancy liquids? Control people by their shadows? Read body movements well enough to dodge bullets? Run on water and up the sides of Big Shell? Oh, nanos, ok. Oh and here's one out of left field! Hey guys Naomi has Cancer! Lets see her die instantly after taking the injection while Otacon cries to her through an LCD screen side mounted on a robot. YES!
  • How about the mountains of pointless sh*t? For example. Why does Raiden, who is strong enough to hold up Outer Haven just minutes later, decide to chop off his arm to get out from under some rubble? And then why does he let himself get crushed under Outer Haven instead of just grabbing Snake and getting the **** out of there? The game is riddled with pointless nonsense like that.
  • How about that crappy TPS gameplay? No need for stealth tactics, just shoot everything you see and hit up Debin on his pager when you need more guns, nades, rockets, silencers, etc.. Oh you want to play it stealth you say? Cool. Just crawl around in your Octocam from point a to point b. DONE. Thats what happens when level design is an afterthought.
  • Oh and those levels :) Hey guys here is Shadow Moses! Hope you like nostalgia because the level is devoid of any soldiers, or meaningful design. Feel free to run straight through throwing down the truckload of Chaffs you came across. Oh and have fun in Outer Haven! We know its the last stage of "the final" MGS, but we took it upon ourselves to make sure it is 1000x more primitive in design than the Tanker from MGS2! Oh and hope you like Europe, because on every replay you will have to do the same damn thing even though you know exactly were to go. Awesome!
  • How bout that enemy AI that doesnt even match up to MGS2 and 3?
  • How about those bosses that basically have no involvement in the story and just boil down to generic shooter bosses in terms of gameplay?
  • Where are all my codecs and easter eggs? What happened to the incredible amounts of detail and thought that went into fleshing out the world you play in?

Worst part is I havent even scratched the surface. I wont even bother breaking down the horribly cheesy, vomit inducing moments in detail. You know what they are. Johny + Merryl. Snake + Raiden. lol

Did you mean to say MGS4 hit every poor note possible?

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#32 MigElite
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Commander Shepard poops all over MGS4

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#33 Giancar
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For me, as for now it is :cool:
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#34 Mozelleple112
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Commander Shepard poops all over MGS4

MigElite
Too bad he stars in a mediocre game though.
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#35 Mozelleple112
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Super Mario Galaxy is the correct answer.

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Nope, not even close :lol: it Bioshock > Super mario Galaxy.
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#36 Mozelleple112
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SMG and SMG2 are both ranked higher on Gamerankings. Try again.hiphops_savior

MGS4 won more GOTY awards than SMG and SMG2 COMBINED. Try again.

Fail less this time though.

Oh and obligatory lol gamerankings :lol: !

Oh and MGS4's 10 on PS3 > Wii's 10/9.5

so its more like

MGS4 10
SMG2 9.5

SMG 9.0

/Try again.

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#37 TrapJak
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Nah, I think Uncharted 2 , or even Zelda:SS deserves that. But I respect your opinion.

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#38 Inconsistancy
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[QUOTE="MigElite"]

Commander Shepard poops all over MGS4

Mozelleple112
Too bad he stars in a mediocre game though.

She ::cough:: and it's a fun game.
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#39 TrapJak
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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="MigElite"]

Commander Shepard poops all over MGS4

Inconsistancy

Too bad he stars in a mediocre game though.

She ::cough:: and it's a fun game.

He/She, and ME2 does have Legion, so it has a major bonus over MGS4.

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#40 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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MGS4 should have gotten an 8. It was a fantastic game but it was the worst in the MGS series.
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#41 Mozelleple112
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I'll have to agree with you TC, and many critics will agree with this fact that MGS4 is the best game of this gen. Gamespot included.

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#42 AmazonTreeBoa
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Really TC? That's the best you can do? Man don't quit you day job because your trolling sucks and isn't going to take you very far in life.
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#43 Mozelleple112
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MGS4 should have gotten an 8. It was a fantastic game but it was the worst in the MGS series. SAGE_OF_FIRE
IF MGS4's score is to be altered it should be to a higher score, above the scale. Like an 11/10 like IGN suggested or a 12/10 like that Dangeki thread :P
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#44 PAL360
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Not in my opinion. It´s even far from being the best PS3 exclusive.

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#45 GTSaiyanjin2
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I mainly liked MGS4 because of the gameplay, it was much better than previous entries. And the story I dont really concern myself with it, but it didnt bother me at all to take anything away from the game. And yeah its one of the best games I've played all gen.

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#46 Wiimotefan
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So Mozelleple, here we are again in another MGS4 topic and you singing praises, telling everyone who disagrees they're wrong and ignoring my posts.

Remember when you said MGS4 was best in series due to sales and scores, but never responded when I brought up MGS2 higher sales and better scores? Still waiting for that response.

And since you're here and you are all knowing when it comes to MGS, could you maybe try to explain at least a few of the points I brought up in my previous post?

Thanks bud. :)

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#47 Pug-Nasty
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MGS 4 is definitely a masterpiece, and certainly one of, if not the, greatest games this gen. Kind of sad it's a 2008 title and yet to be surpassed in a lot of ways though. It's genre defining, but not gen defining.

I'd say a gen defining game would be something like CoD, quickly thrown together, poorly made cash cows.

MGS 4 is like an old-school throwback title. A game made with a lot of love and care, budget be damned.

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#48 Wiimotefan
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Bump for anwers from the MGS god Mozeppele.

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#49 Mozelleple112
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So Mozelleple, here we are again in another MGS4 topic and you singing praises, telling everyone who disagrees they're wrong and ignoring my posts.

Remember when you said MGS4 was best in series due to sales and scores, but never responded when I brought up MGS2 higher sales and better scores? Still waiting for that response.

And since you're here and you are all knowing when it comes to MGS, could you maybe try to explain at least a few of the points I brought up in my previous post?

Thanks bud. :)

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MGS4 10 > MGS2 9.6 GS MGS4 10 > MGS2 9.7 IGN. Sorry, MGS2 is my second favourite in the series and was the first Metal Gear game I played, only reason I played it was because it got a 9.6 and I wanted to find out what made this game a 9.6 as I thought it looked crappy, then I fell in love with the series. So MGS2 is a bucket full of nostaligia. A good, high AAA one of best games of 2001 game it is; but a AAAA, definitely best game of the generation it is not; unlike MGS4. MGS2 sold what, 7 million across PS2 (150 million install base) XBOX (25 million) and PC (millions) MGS4 sold 6 million on the PS3 alone, which is 50% more than MGS3 which also was PS- exclusive (until 3DS port in 2011) Sales=/= quality but what I meant is that MGS4 widened the audience..
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#50 BeskerB
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MGS4 was the worst in the series.

It was MGS3 with less gameplay and more cutscenes...