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#1 Drop00
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http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/13296/Jack-Thompson-Blames-Bill-Gates-for-VT-Shooting/

 

It's all Microsofts fault..

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#2 magus-21
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And here I was about to report this thread. Phew. :) (LOL, Thompson misspelled "similarly")
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#3 rexoverbey
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He is an idiot LOL.  He blamed Bill Gates for saying the kid played counter strike.  Counter Strike isn't even made by microsoft LMAO.

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#4 Hoobinator
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We've been over this time and time again, ignore the guy, he doesn't know his own mouth from his ass.
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#5 super_biohazard
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I don't know how to take this: offencive to everyone who died and their family or just a a sick joke made by some cow... eh, most likely both.
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#6 ZebethOrZebes
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We've been over this time and time again, ignore the guy, he doesn't know his own mouth from his ass.Hoobinator
Neither does the public.
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#7 yoshi-lnex
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Maybe he should read about the shooters mental history.....might put some holes in his argument.....
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#8 Jhung207
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I think that korean guy just played too much counterstrike.  He probably play a lot of starcraft too.
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#10 magus-21
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I don't know how to take this: offencive to everyone who died and their family or just a a sick joke made by some cow... eh, most likely both.super_biohazard
Read his post........
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I don't know how to take this: offencive to everyone who died and their family or just a a sick joke made by some cow... eh, most likely both.super_biohazard

 

I take it you didn't click the link? 

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#12 Haseokicksass
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its the onyl logical explanation for everythign thats ever died in the world.
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#13 Cook66
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He is in way over his worthless little head.
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#14 kato_
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If they find Counterstrike installed in the suspects computer then the FPS gaming industry will be history.
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#15 Friendlyfire53
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Did that story say he was a Christian?  Funny how ignorant religion has become.  I am Christian in my belifs but i don't blame other people for my problems.
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#16 Hoobinator
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If they find Counterstrike installed in the suspects computer then the FPS gaming industry will be history.kato_

Not quite. What happens if they find movies like "Taxi Driver" or even "Matrix" or "Hard Boiled" is the movie industry going to be history.

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#17 Dreams-Visions
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I thought I was gonna come in and pronounce "In before TL." instead, there's an actual link and a story. But please...nore more Jack Thompson threads.
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#18 kato_
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[QUOTE="kato_"]If they find Counterstrike installed in the suspects computer then the FPS gaming industry will be history.Hoobinator

Not quite. What happens if they find movies like "Taxi Driver" or even "Matrix" or "Hard Boiled" is the movie industry going to be history.

thats different because in video games you play as that character...in movies you dont

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#19 whitetiger3521
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Oh noez! The million's of people who play shooting games are going to go on a rampage because they are being "trained" to KILL!!

This jack dude needs to snap into reality here, The Cho dude already had mental issues before the rampage you can't just blame interactive entertainment. Hell the game was probally keeping him from killing someone before he got bored of the game!  

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#20 kato_
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I thought I was gonna come in and pronounce "In before TL." instead, there's an actual link and a story. But please...nore more Jack Thompson threads.Dreams-Visions


LOL your sig is halarious
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#21 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]I thought I was gonna come in and pronounce "In before TL." instead, there's an actual link and a story. But please...nore more Jack Thompson threads.kato_


LOL your sig is halarious

He had such a look of suprise and relief after reading his hand.  :lol: 

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#22 Hoobinator
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[QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

[QUOTE="kato_"]If they find Counterstrike installed in the suspects computer then the FPS gaming industry will be history.kato_

Not quite. What happens if they find movies like "Taxi Driver" or even "Matrix" or "Hard Boiled" is the movie industry going to be history.

thats different because in video games you play as that character...in movies you dont

I'm quite prepared to argue that movies influence more than games ever have.

Take Taxi Driver for example, where supposedly John Hinckley jr was inspired to kill Ronald Reagan because of it.

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#23 DrinkDuff
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His ignorance is killing me. If Counter-strike was a killing simulator we would be seeing at least 10 times as many school shootings or shootings in general. Violent video games do not encourage real life violence, especially violent massacres like the Virginia Tech shooting. Oh and what about school shootings that happened thirty years ago? What were the influence of those? Wait, there isn't any violent videogames to blame because they didn't exist? Uh oh. Sorry Mr. Thompson. I guess if you wanted to make an arguement, you would have to rely on another scrapegoat. What could you blame single-handedly for actions that in reality are complex and involve many factors? Hmmm.. Movies? Naw...its a hobby that you hold dear so how could it be the cause? How about Communist propoganda? Possibly. We don't know what the enemy is filling our kids heads with. The enemy is probably filling our kids heads with violence so they can destroy the country from the inside by turning our kids into mindless killing machines. Those sneaky commies... That's what you sound like every time you open your mouth Jack Thompson. :roll:
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At least he's the only one making assumptions like that this time. Everyone else is whining about gun control. Almost as stupid.

Take away legal use of guns, and people still have all sorts of blades, blunt objects, and of course, their bare hands to kill someone with. OMGZ ban teh hands!!!

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#25 Trashface
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The guy is saying he believed they learned military skills from the games which I can agree with. He does seem to insinuate that the game is actually responsible, which I do not agree with. That's as silly as blaming it on a lack of gun control. The problem was within the individual. People like that need to be reformed or removed from society.
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#26 IAmRodyle
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Hyper-violent shooter game? Counter-strike is almost tame by today's standards. And since when did Bill Gates have anything to do with it?
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At least he's the only one making assumptions like that this time. Everyone else is whining about gun control. Almost as stupid.

Take away legal use of guns, and people still have all sorts of blades, blunt objects, and of course, their bare hands to kill someone with. OMGZ ban teh hands!!!

Tsug_Ze_Wind
You have to admit it's a lot tougher to kill 33 people with your bare hands.
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#28 peacebringer
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He is an idiot LOL. He blamed Bill Gates for saying the kid played counter strike. Counter Strike isn't even made by microsoft LMAO.

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but the Xbox version is Published by them for the original Xbox wich when Cho was in HS yes the Xbox 360 wasn't out.
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[QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

At least he's the only one making assumptions like that this time. Everyone else is whining about gun control. Almost as stupid.

Take away legal use of guns, and people still have all sorts of blades, blunt objects, and of course, their bare hands to kill someone with. OMGZ ban teh hands!!!

Zhengi
You have to admit it's a lot tougher to kill 33 people with your bare hands.

truth. But yeah, gun control isn't going to stop a maniac who obviously was willing to go to great lengths to get those guns. Gun control would only stop morons. A disturbed anger-driven teenager like him would only need to look for them on the black market.
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Hyper-violent shooter game? Counter-strike is almost tame by today's standards. And since when did Bill Gates have anything to do with it?IAmRodyle
they published the Xbox version. they really shold just tone down games or make killing games AO(adult only) after you 18 i don't think you can blame your actions on games though.
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#31 peacebringer
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[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

At least he's the only one making assumptions like that this time. Everyone else is whining about gun control. Almost as stupid.

Take away legal use of guns, and people still have all sorts of blades, blunt objects, and of course, their bare hands to kill someone with. OMGZ ban teh hands!!!

DrinkDuff
You have to admit it's a lot tougher to kill 33 people with your bare hands.

truth. But yeah, gun control isn't going to stop a maniac who obviously was willing to go to great lengths to get those guns. Gun control would only stop morons, a disturbed anger driven teenager like him would only need to look for them on the black market.

Funny how you sig has a guy shooting ronald Mcdonalds head off making fun of death this is america people this is why this **** happens.
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[QUOTE="IAmRodyle"]Hyper-violent shooter game? Counter-strike is almost tame by today's standards. And since when did Bill Gates have anything to do with it?peacebringer
they published the Xbox version. they really shold just tone down games or make killing games AO(adult only) after you 18 i don't think you can blame your actions on games though.

you shouldn't be able to blame the actions on a videogame ever.
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#33 D_Znuhtz
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And here I was about to report this thread. Phew. :) (LOL, Thompson misspelled "similarly")magus-21

No kidding. It's funny, because here I was about to say "Weak. So not cool. Using the tragic deaths of 33 people as leverage in the fanboy war is a new low." Yet now that I know its Jack Thompson, I'm not surprised. How is it okay for him to trivialize that shooting? If I were related to the victims I would sue his stank ass. 

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#34 peacebringer
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[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="IAmRodyle"]Hyper-violent shooter game? Counter-strike is almost tame by today's standards. And since when did Bill Gates have anything to do with it?DrinkDuff
they published the Xbox version. they really shold just tone down games or make killing games AO(adult only) after you 18 i don't think you can blame your actions on games though.

you shouldn't be able to blame the actions on a videogame ever.

Sigh... i wish i lived in Europe in fact i think i'm gonna move there one day America is just to corrupted just cause people want violent games they don't wanna see any censorship.
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I blame Counter Strike, imagine how many South Koreans were obsessed with that game.
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#36 DrinkDuff
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[QUOTE="DrinkDuff"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

At least he's the only one making assumptions like that this time. Everyone else is whining about gun control. Almost as stupid.

Take away legal use of guns, and people still have all sorts of blades, blunt objects, and of course, their bare hands to kill someone with. OMGZ ban teh hands!!!

peacebringer
You have to admit it's a lot tougher to kill 33 people with your bare hands.

truth. But yeah, gun control isn't going to stop a maniac who obviously was willing to go to great lengths to get those guns. Gun control would only stop morons, a disturbed anger driven teenager like him would only need to look for them on the black market.

Funny how you sig has a guy shooting ronald Mcdonalds head off making fun of death this is america people this is why this **** happens.

I don't see what my sig has to do with violence in this country. Does my sig give you the sudden urge to murder 3 dozen people? No? Then I don't see the problem with my sig. I don't see how the mockery of death would encourage gun abuse, or spur violent tendencies in our youth. There are other factors in life, like the media that is constantly feeding us inflammatory language to keep us in a constant state fear over incredibly rare/minor threats. When we get scared we do stupid things like overreact. This can lead to gun violence but this doesn't mean that we are all mentally unstable people who have the desire to shoot up a school. Those people are a rare occurence but its still a tragedy nonetheless.
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I really find amusing Mr. Thompsons' description of Counter Strike.
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[QUOTE="DrinkDuff"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

At least he's the only one making assumptions like that this time. Everyone else is whining about gun control. Almost as stupid.

Take away legal use of guns, and people still have all sorts of blades, blunt objects, and of course, their bare hands to kill someone with. OMGZ ban teh hands!!!

peacebringer

You have to admit it's a lot tougher to kill 33 people with your bare hands.

truth. But yeah, gun control isn't going to stop a maniac who obviously was willing to go to great lengths to get those guns. Gun control would only stop morons, a disturbed anger driven teenager like him would only need to look for them on the black market.

Funny how you sig has a guy shooting ronald Mcdonalds head off making fun of death this is america people this is why this **** happens.

:lol: 

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[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="DrinkDuff"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

At least he's the only one making assumptions like that this time. Everyone else is whining about gun control. Almost as stupid.

Take away legal use of guns, and people still have all sorts of blades, blunt objects, and of course, their bare hands to kill someone with. OMGZ ban teh hands!!!

DrinkDuff
You have to admit it's a lot tougher to kill 33 people with your bare hands.

truth. But yeah, gun control isn't going to stop a maniac who obviously was willing to go to great lengths to get those guns. Gun control would only stop morons, a disturbed anger driven teenager like him would only need to look for them on the black market.

Funny how you sig has a guy shooting ronald Mcdonalds head off making fun of death this is america people this is why this **** happens.

I don't see what my sig has to do with violence in this country. Does my sig give you the sudden urge to murder 3 dozen people? No? Then I don't see the problem with my sig. I don't see how the mockery of death would encourage gun abuse, violent tendencies in our youth. We aren't all mentally unstable people who have the desire to shoot up a school. Those people are a rare occurence but its still a tragedy nonetheless.

well to me even if there 1 guy out there who may one day kill 33 people one day cause of a game then i don't mind censorship to avoid those trategy and yes your Sig is offense expecially so close to the VT shootings seems no one cares still it's really really sad. i was playing GTA LCStories the day of the shooting when i heard i took it out it reppulsed me and i felt bad shooting the pedestrians. Maybe it's just me cause i have a heart. Just imagine the people who saw the killer and lived if they see your sig they can have a flash back and start crying. this is called post tramtic stree disorder.
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[QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

At least he's the only one making assumptions like that this time. Everyone else is whining about gun control. Almost as stupid.

Take away legal use of guns, and people still have all sorts of blades, blunt objects, and of course, their bare hands to kill someone with. OMGZ ban teh hands!!!

Zhengi

You have to admit it's a lot tougher to kill 33 people with your bare hands.

And getting in a car and driving down the sidewalk of a city is easier than pulling a trigger and will probably maim and kill more. Should we outlaw vehincles? No. It is not a gun control issue. It could actually be used to make a case for more lax gun control. If a responsible gun owner with a concealed carrying license was armed in one of those class rooms, the shooter would have had a much harder time. If you could freeze time and put a gun in one of those students hands before they were shot, would you? I hope so.

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At least he's the only one making assumptions like that this time. Everyone else is whining about gun control. Almost as stupid.

Take away legal use of guns, and people still have all sorts of blades, blunt objects, and of course, their bare hands to kill someone with. OMGZ ban teh hands!!!

Tsug_Ze_Wind

if alot more people carried guns i can garuntee you he wouldnt have been able to kill 33 people, maybe 5 to 10 max before a kind armed pedsertion killed him. 

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#42 Trashface
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[QUOTE="DrinkDuff"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

At least he's the only one making assumptions like that this time. Everyone else is whining about gun control. Almost as stupid.

Take away legal use of guns, and people still have all sorts of blades, blunt objects, and of course, their bare hands to kill someone with. OMGZ ban teh hands!!!

peacebringer

You have to admit it's a lot tougher to kill 33 people with your bare hands.

truth. But yeah, gun control isn't going to stop a maniac who obviously was willing to go to great lengths to get those guns. Gun control would only stop morons, a disturbed anger driven teenager like him would only need to look for them on the black market.

Funny how you sig has a guy shooting ronald Mcdonalds head off making fun of death this is america people this is why this **** happens.

This is not an American issue. It's world-wide. Suicide bombers have probably killed scores more innocent people.

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[QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

At least he's the only one making assumptions like that this time. Everyone else is whining about gun control. Almost as stupid.

Take away legal use of guns, and people still have all sorts of blades, blunt objects, and of course, their bare hands to kill someone with. OMGZ ban teh hands!!!

Zhengi

You have to admit it's a lot tougher to kill 33 people with your bare hands.

 You have to admitit's alot tougher to kill 33 armed people then unarmed people.

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[QUOTE="IAmRodyle"]Hyper-violent shooter game? Counter-strike is almost tame by today's standards. And since when did Bill Gates have anything to do with it?peacebringer
they published the Xbox version. they really shold just tone down games or make killing games AO(adult only) after you 18 i don't think you can blame your actions on games though.

Keep in mind the difference between M (17+) and AO (18+) is illogically small. Yet somehow, if the threshold for the Mature rating is so acute, why are there so many M games to varying degrees of violence or other content with so few AOs? I don't think I've ever seen an AO game in my life. I really don't understand how the system works. Jack managed to push GTA's rating to AO, yes, but now he seems to imply that he wants the game removed alltogether. He doesn't seem to trust it with people over 18. So is ESRB flawed? I always thought its purpose was to warn people of the game's content to avoid offence, but apparently it's supposed to discourage people alltogether from buying the game, from his logic. :roll:

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[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

At least he's the only one making assumptions like that this time. Everyone else is whining about gun control. Almost as stupid.

Take away legal use of guns, and people still have all sorts of blades, blunt objects, and of course, their bare hands to kill someone with. OMGZ ban teh hands!!!

Trashface

You have to admit it's a lot tougher to kill 33 people with your bare hands.

And getting in a car and driving down the sidewalk of a city is easier than pulling a trigger and will probably maim and kill more. Should we outlaw vehincles? No. It is not a gun control issue. It could actually be used to make a case for more lax gun control. If a responsible gun owner with a concealed carrying license was armed in one of those class rooms, the shooter would have had a much harder time. If you could freeze time and put a gun in one of those students hands before they were shot, would you? I hope so.

 

this is the excate reason why i belive in carrying a gun in public. 

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It just angers me to see this idiot has actually made a name for himself.. a bad name.. but I bet he doesn't take it that way.
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#47 D_Znuhtz
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Another thing I find repulsive about that letter is that he says shooters "train" people. I've logged a ton of hours on a ton of different shooters since the tender age of 9 (Wolfenstein), and not only have I never had the urge to shoot anyone, but I'm absolutely sure if I picked up a real Bullpup I still would have no idea how to even load it, let alone turn the safety off and begin killing people. It's unbelievable that this jerk*** is allowed to make such disgusting statements. He should be held accountable for these types of statements. He should stop using tragedy as a means to an end. He is the scum of the earth.

Sheeps, lemmings, cows. We must all put aside our petty squabbles once and for all, and destroy Jack Thompson!

DISCLAIMER: By "destroy", I mean flame and debunk him at length. No physical harm should come to Jack Thompson. No Jack Thompsons were injured in the making of this post.

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#48 readingfc_1
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Peacebringer he has had that sig for a while now.

 

 Anyway, are we now in a situation whereby if i decided to kill a few people someone would blame it on the fact i play CS or Gears of Halo? It seems ridiculous that people like JT are almost guessing as to reasons why people kill and presenting it as pure fact. I don't know how much this kid played CS but i'm sure it wasn't the game that made him want to kill. I'm sure it was mainly down to the fact that he felt society had rejected him and he was alone. The game may have fueled the fire slightly but it's down to people causing this tragedy. The same story emerged from Columbine with the kids feeling they had been bullied and belittled by the kids higher in the social ladders at schools but the whole thing was blamed on the game 'Doom'. 

 

It just make me so mad to think that people like JT are so narrowminded that they feel they have to launch a vendetta on something we all enjoy. There's not real reasoning behind it, Jacks just a misguided fool. 

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#49 Liquid_47
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Did that story say he was a Christian? Funny how ignorant religion has become. I am Christian in my belifs but i don't blame other people for my problems. Friendlyfire53

 

Religion isn't ignorant. It's the people.

I feel sorry for this Jack Thompson fellow.

 And btw, I'm pretty sure the killer was using a Mac.

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#50 RedDaemon
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[QUOTE="Trashface"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

At least he's the only one making assumptions like that this time. Everyone else is whining about gun control. Almost as stupid.

Take away legal use of guns, and people still have all sorts of blades, blunt objects, and of course, their bare hands to kill someone with. OMGZ ban teh hands!!!

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You have to admit it's a lot tougher to kill 33 people with your bare hands.

And getting in a car and driving down the sidewalk of a city is easier than pulling a trigger and will probably maim and kill more. Should we outlaw vehincles? No. It is not a gun control issue. It could actually be used to make a case for more lax gun control. If a responsible gun owner with a concealed carrying license was armed in one of those class rooms, the shooter would have had a much harder time. If you could freeze time and put a gun in one of those students hands before they were shot, would you? I hope so.

 

this is the excate reason why i belive in carrying a gun in public. 

Giving everyone guns does not instantly make them all responsible law-abiding people.  There are people with the capacity to kill out there, and the only thing stopping them is having no access to guns.

I mean... do you realize what you're supporting?  Or are you some 15-22 year old male who thinks they know what they are talking about.