Microsoft doesn't care about the games industry

[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"] have you ever played guild war? It's alot like a rts it can't be played on a console it's too complex!!!!istreakforfood

Guild Wars isn't a rts game.

by the way the graphics suck so don't even compare the wii to PC show me crysis on the wii!! LOL

I know it's not an rpts it's like an rts because it has a complex system!!! any one who has played that game would know!!!

by the way the graphics suck so don't even compare the wii to PC show me crysis on the wii!! LOL

blackdreamhunk

I don't really find RPG's complex but please tell me why it is so complex then? A list perhaps?

As for graphics, the Wii is the weaker format by far but as for it's control input - much better that keyboards and joypads my friend which is the Wii's USP.

[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

I know it's not an rpts it's like an rts because it has a complex system!!! any one who has played that game would know!!!

by the way the graphics suck so don't even compare the wii to PC show me crysis on the wii!! LOL

Rikuide_Furame

I don't really find RPG's complex but please tell me why it is so complex then? A list perhaps?

As for graphics, the Wii is the weaker format by far but as for it's control input - much better that keyboards and joypads my friend which is the Wii's USP.

guild war is not an rpg by the way it's different kind of game altogether!

[QUOTE="istreakforfood"]

[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"] have you ever played guild war? It's alot like a rts it can't be played on a console it's too complex!!!!blackdreamhunk

Guild Wars isn't a rts game.

If FF11 can be played on consoles I don't see why GW can't.

Graphics aren't superb like Crysis and unlike FF11 once you leave town by yourself or with 7 other people you won't encounter other players in game.

Only problem I can see the game might have a disadvantage is people using a controller against people who use keyboard and mouse in pvp.

[QUOTE="Rikuide_Furame"]

[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

I know it's not an rpts it's like an rts because it has a complex system!!! any one who has played that game would know!!!

by the way the graphics suck so don't even compare the wii to PC show me crysis on the wii!! LOL

blackdreamhunk

I don't really find RPG's complex but please tell me why it is so complex then? A list perhaps?

As for graphics, the Wii is the weaker format by far but as for it's control input - much better that keyboards and joypads my friend which is the Wii's USP.

guild war is not an rpg by the way it's different kind of game altogether!

guild wars is an mmorpg, and if by complex you mean requirements no it isn't

if by complex you mean the controlls then no it isn't there are other mmorpgs a lot more complex then guild wars controll wise

Thats a laod of bull crap.wukepingu

MS would love to have both wow and GW because it makes money!

[QUOTE="wukepingu"]Thats a laod of bull crap.blackdreamhunk

MS would love to have both wow and GW because it makes money!

not for microsoft it doesn't

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

[QUOTE="wukepingu"]Thats a laod of bull crap.blackdreamhunk

MS would love to have both wow and GW because it makes money!

not for microsoft it doesn't

because mmorpgs are not sucessfull on consoles it's that simple

and nice way to avoid my point ;)

[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"][QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

[QUOTE="wukepingu"]Thats a laod of bull crap.st1ka

MS would love to have both wow and GW because it makes money!

not for microsoft it doesn't

because mmorpgs are not sucessfull on consoles it's that simple

and nice way to avoid my point ;)

LOL what you say that's why the making DC online right LOL!!!!blackdreamhunk

and this proves me wrong... how?

the mere fact that there are so few MMORPGS on consoles this gen only proves that they are not a sucessfull genre on consoles

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

[QUOTE="wukepingu"]Thats a laod of bull crap.blackdreamhunk

MS would love to have both wow and GW because it makes money!

not for microsoft it doesn't

show me some facts !!!!!

Right, he's the "troller". Have you actually read any of your posts - they are all the same:

"Show me proof. haha the 360 needs multiple disks for a game"

You're clearly a huge Guild Wars fan, which is fine, but the levels to which you are taken this obsesive defense of the game only helps to further discredit what you are saying.

[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"][QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

[QUOTE="wukepingu"]Thats a laod of bull crap.Rikuide_Furame

MS would love to have both wow and GW because it makes money!

not for microsoft it doesn't

show me some facts !!!!!

Right, he's the "troller". Have you actually read any of your posts - they are all the same:

"Show me proof. haha the 360 needs multiple disks for a game"

You're clearly a huge Guild Wars fan, which is fine, but the levels to which you are taken this obsesive defense of the game only helps to further discredit what you are saying.

Honestly, I kind of wish Sega was still around instead of Microsoft. Sega's main focus was games and only games and thats what they delivered.

Microsoft has all the money in the world from windows and they're stealing exclusives etc because of it and it just turns me off. Microsoft, you can't buy JRPG. Sorry.

prove it to me where is guild wars on console or even wow!!!!!!!!!!blackdreamhunk

you're asking for console mmorpgs?

prove it to me where is guild wars on console or even wow!!!!!!!!!!blackdreamhunk

And once again you prove my point. I've met spambots that have more variety than you. It's a widely known fact (that no doubt, you're oblivious to) that MMORPGS (that's the name for "complex" games as you put it) and consoles don't go together. Not because consoles cannot handle them but because they lend themselves better to PCs.

[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

prove it to me where is guild wars on console or even wow!!!!!!!!!!Rikuide_Furame

And once again you prove my point. I've met spambots that have more variety than you. It's a widely known fact (that no doubt, you're oblivious to) that MMORPGS (that's the name for "complex" games as you put it) and consoles don't go together. Not because consoles cannot handle them but because they lend themselves better to PCs.

the complex skill system game I guess if you both has played the game you would have known that! the wii wouldn't be ale to handle it too because of how complex the game is plus ram and storage!

[QUOTE="Rikuide_Furame"]

[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

prove it to me where is guild wars on console or even wow!!!!!!!!!!blackdreamhunk

And once again you prove my point. I've met spambots that have more variety than you. It's a widely known fact (that no doubt, you're oblivious to) that MMORPGS (that's the name for "complex" games as you put it) and consoles don't go together. Not because consoles cannot handle them but because they lend themselves better to PCs.

the complex skill system game I guess if you both has played the game you would have known that! the wii wouldn't be ale to handle it too because of how complex the game is plus ram and storage!

actually yes it is, guild wars is an action online RPG, no different then diablo only a lot more skill oriented i don't know why you're making everything so complicated

[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"][QUOTE="Rikuide_Furame"]

[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

prove it to me where is guild wars on console or even wow!!!!!!!!!!st1ka

And once again you prove my point. I've met spambots that have more variety than you. It's a widely known fact (that no doubt, you're oblivious to) that MMORPGS (that's the name for "complex" games as you put it) and consoles don't go together. Not because consoles cannot handle them but because they lend themselves better to PCs.

the complex skill system game I guess if you both has played the game you would have known that! the wii wouldn't be ale to handle it too because of how complex the game is plus ram and storage!

actually yes it is, guild wars is an action online RPG, no different then diablo only a lot more skill oriented i don't know why you're making everything so complicated

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMsQhI089Qk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9U4rTwcpww

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud0yPm31JT8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhN-Li2S34o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3PXiV95kwA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdPrB_lcpBc

I could go on LOL

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"][QUOTE="Rikuide_Furame"]

[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

prove it to me where is guild wars on console or even wow!!!!!!!!!!blackdreamhunk

And once again you prove my point. I've met spambots that have more variety than you. It's a widely known fact (that no doubt, you're oblivious to) that MMORPGS (that's the name for "complex" games as you put it) and consoles don't go together. Not because consoles cannot handle them but because they lend themselves better to PCs.

the complex skill system game I guess if you both has played the game you would have known that! the wii wouldn't be ale to handle it too because of how complex the game is plus ram and storage!

actually yes it is, guild wars is an action online RPG, no different then diablo only a lot more skill oriented i don't know why you're making everything so complicated

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMsQhI089Qk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9U4rTwcpww

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud0yPm31JT8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhN-Li2S34o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3PXiV95kwA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdPrB_lcpBc

I could go on LOL

mmorpgs? consoles got'em

shooters? consoles got' em

Wrpgs? consoles got' em

i will give you sins of a solar empire though, i mean consoles have RTS, but nothing like sins or homeworld

Yes, MS invested billions of dollars into the games industry because they don't care about it :roll: MS has been in the games industry longer than Sony - now that they've demonstrated they can be profitable in the console market, we suddenly start hearing "MS is evil". Because they're beating your company of choice?

"They they stole FF13!" riiiiiiiight "stole" - sorry, this isn't a communist tyranny, one company (be it sony, microsoft, or nintendo) doesn't just get to say "those third parties were mine! I saw them... technically second because I "stole" that exclusive from Nintendo"..... (*cough* FF VI - SNES, FF VII - PS1)

subrosian

Well said.

yea stealing pc tittles and pissing off the pc game fans while they do it!

These days I can't find interplay or the pc gamers beloved fallout games no more! IN stead I get a console post and the same game fallout. A game devs that don't care about there fans no More!

From this game here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3PXiV95kwA

to this and the game devs don't even care about PC gamers!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPt08UYmyMo

blackdreamhunk

Wow.

What's up with this whole "Microsoft is evil" trend?Lab392

lol I didn't say MS is evil its just that if they ever lead the GI you can bet that it would be console gamings downfall. MS is trying to making console gaming like PC gaming and I don't see that as a good thing, MS shells out money to get 3rd party exclusive without much conribution to console gaming, I mean they hardly have 1st party titles and most end up on PC's. MS only joined the games industry because they noticed that it could pose a threat to PC gaming, nowthat they are in the industry they are trying to make it more like PC gaming. I for one don't want console gaming to end up like PC gaming, thats why I will never support MS in the GI and will whole-heartedly support Sony and Nintendo since they actually understand the importance of console gaming. Both Nintendo and Sony have given the GI titles that really define what consoles are all about, what about MS. Please don't say Halo because that is on the PC, as well as Gears, Mass Effect.

[QUOTE="Lab392"]What's up with this whole "Microsoft is evil" trend?Swift_Boss_A

lol I didn't say MS is evil its just that if they ever lead the GI you can bet that it would be console gamings downfall.

You need to seriously turn down the fanboy a bit.

[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

[QUOTE="knight-k"]I agree completely, if MS continues like this, we'll have a monoply which is bad for EVERYONE.heretrix

These posts amaze me.

Again; microsoft has fewer development studios than Sony. Despite that, they actually let some of said studios go last year, like bungie and Bizarre.

Explain to me how on earth you can say the company which actually owns the least developers and development studio is monopolising the market.

Seriously. Will i get an explanation? Probably not. Because the trend in this thread seems to be "post biased opinions... leave before someone replies".

Well, that's only if you look at it in a logical frame of mind. If you put yourself in the mindset of a SW fanboy, then that Microsoft takeover isn't just inevitable, but it's going to happen yesterday.

Jeez.

These days I can't find interplay or the pc gamers beloved fallout games no more! IN stead I get a console post and the same game fallout. A game devs that don't care about there fans no More!

From this game here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3PXiV95kwA

to this and the game devs don't even care about PC gamers!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPt08UYmyMo

Wow.

Unreal tourment would have only sold 500 copies!! with pc and the game was garbage!! So yea I blame console and MS!

If it wasn't for consoles and MS Interplay plus fallout would have still be around. I am sick of game devs treating theirs fns that made like garbage!!!!

Unreal tourment would have only sold 500 copies!! with pc and the game was garbage!! So yea I blame console and MS!

blackdreamhunk

and what does microsoft have anything to do with this?

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]This is like Christmas seeing how angry and upset the cows are today because of FF13. Gotta admit it is fun seeing the cows get this upset time and time again :lol:rybe1025

Glad your happy lol, let's hope sony doesn't go all crazy and start screwing you over buying your exclusives up so you have to wait another year to play the games. I'm glad your happy. MS is a ******* saint.

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]This is like Christmas seeing how angry and upset the cows are today because of FF13. Gotta admit it is fun seeing the cows get this upset time and time again :lol:rybe1025

Glad your happy lol, let's hope sony doesn't go all crazy and start screwing you over buying your exclusives up so you have to wait another year to play the games. I'm glad your happy. MS is a ******* saint.

in all your posts you all say is bullshi... you are the perfect idiot fanboy

[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

If it wasn't for consoles and MS Interplay plus fallout would have still be around. I am sick of game devs treating theirs fns that made like garbage!!!!

Unreal tourment would have only sold 500 copies!! with pc and the game was garbage!! So yea I blame console and MS!

st1ka

and what does microsoft have anything to do with this?

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

If it wasn't for consoles and MS Interplay plus fallout would have still be around. I am sick of game devs treating theirs fns that made like garbage!!!!

Unreal tourment would have only sold 500 copies!! with pc and the game was garbage!! So yea I blame console and MS!

blackdreamhunk

and what does microsoft have anything to do with this?

how would you know?

oh and by the way halo was going to have a PS2 port as well ;)

If it wasn't for consoles and MS Interplay plus fallout would have still be around. I am sick of game devs treating theirs fns that made like garbage!!!!

Unreal tourment would have only sold 500 copies!! with pc and the game was garbage!! So yea I blame console and MS!

blackdreamhunk

Interplay folded because of bad management. Microsoft had nothing to do with it.

DO SOME RESEARCH.

Stop playing yourself.

Every company in the games industry is here to make a profit and nothing more. Microsoft entered the console market to dominate and eventually take over as much market share as they could, while I don't agree with how overbearing they are noone could expect anything less.Flamestos

even if they dominate something doesn't make them the best. ms is like a bully trying to be better then everyone else when their insecure about their biz because their affraid of failing and evryone will laugh at them. all they do is try to lower the standards and quality of products released and then the actual game developers are forced to release games as fast as possible quality is lost time is wasted and no one can actually buy a game and enjoy it because they want you to buy the next one in the series asap because you don't want to fall behind. its the same with computers they keep having to up their graphics in tiny tiny step forcing people to buy hardware that is really expensive just to see a minor difference. then they try to make you pay for every little insignificant thing.

i like the fact ut3 for ps3 has user created dlc that you dont have to pay for and it can be made in which ever way. i wish they would do that for more games. gaming industry shouldn't be a biz controlled by old guys taht know nothing, but should be controled by what the consumer wants

thank god for those selfless angels at sony...they would give away their entire buissness if it ment making their fans happy loloolololoololol. everybody in the industry is a buisness, just because MS is better than your favourite company doesn't mean your company cares about you, or anybody but themselvesArcade-Fire

Blizzard does the same thing with wow

[QUOTE="Arcade-Fire"]thank god for those selfless angels at sony...they would give away their entire buissness if it ment making their fans happy loloolololoololol. everybody in the industry is a buisness, just because MS is better than your favourite company doesn't mean your company cares about you, or anybody but themselvesblackdreamhunk

Blizzard does the same thing with wow

actually many long time blizzard fans consider WOW to be a stab in the back ;)

[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

[QUOTE="Arcade-Fire"]thank god for those selfless angels at sony...they would give away their entire buissness if it ment making their fans happy loloolololoololol. everybody in the industry is a buisness, just because MS is better than your favourite company doesn't mean your company cares about you, or anybody but themselvesst1ka

Blizzard does the same thing with wow

actually many long time blizzard fans consider WOW to be a stab in the back ;)

Tney give feed back to their fans

Either do I.

Industry is lame...

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

[QUOTE="Arcade-Fire"]thank god for those selfless angels at sony...they would give away their entire buissness if it ment making their fans happy loloolololoololol. everybody in the industry is a buisness, just because MS is better than your favourite company doesn't mean your company cares about you, or anybody but themselvesblackdreamhunk

Blizzard does the same thing with wow

actually many long time blizzard fans consider WOW to be a stab in the back ;)

Tney give feed back to their fans

if by feedback you mean destroying the warcraft lore, the warcraft gameplay and going for casual crap then yes you're right

[QUOTE="Arcade-Fire"]thank god for those selfless angels at sony...they would give away their entire buissness if it ment making their fans happy loloolololoololol. everybody in the industry is a buisness, just because MS is better than your favourite company doesn't mean your company cares about you, or anybody but themselvesblackdreamhunk

Blizzard does the same thing with wow

ms is like a bully trying to be better then everyone else when their insecure about their biz because their affraid of failing and evryone will laugh at them. all they do is try to lower the standards and quality of products released and then the actual game developers are forced to release games as fast as possible quality is lost time is wasted and no one can actually buy a game and enjoy it because they want you to buy the next one in the series asap because you don't want to fall behind. its the same with computers they keep having to up their graphics in tiny tiny step forcing people to buy hardware that is really expensive just to see a minor difference. then they try to make you pay for every little insignificant thing.

BoobyUnger

Oh, and last time I checked, Bullies take your money, they don't give it to you. So if MS is a bully, why are so many people accusing them of paying people off?

[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

[QUOTE="Arcade-Fire"]thank god for those selfless angels at sony...they would give away their entire buissness if it ment making their fans happy loloolololoololol. everybody in the industry is a buisness, just because MS is better than your favourite company doesn't mean your company cares about you, or anybody but themselvesArcade-Fire

Blizzard does the same thing with wow

http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=26519817

However anet and game devs from bio-ware are better! the thing is they stick up for their fans and just don't dich them!

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

[QUOTE="Arcade-Fire"]thank god for those selfless angels at sony...they would give away their entire buissness if it ment making their fans happy loloolololoololol. everybody in the industry is a buisness, just because MS is better than your favourite company doesn't mean your company cares about you, or anybody but themselvesblackdreamhunk

Blizzard does the same thing with wow

actually many long time blizzard fans consider WOW to be a stab in the back ;)

Tney give feed back to their fans

XBL has a huge community/developer rapport.

NEXT!

[QUOTE="Arcade-Fire"][QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

[QUOTE="Arcade-Fire"]thank god for those selfless angels at sony...they would give away their entire buissness if it ment making their fans happy loloolololoololol. everybody in the industry is a buisness, just because MS is better than your favourite company doesn't mean your company cares about you, or anybody but themselvesblackdreamhunk

Blizzard does the same thing with wow

http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=26519817

However anet and game devs from bio-ware are better!

[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"][QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

[QUOTE="Arcade-Fire"]thank god for those selfless angels at sony...they would give away their entire buissness if it ment making their fans happy loloolololoololol. everybody in the industry is a buisness, just because MS is better than your favourite company doesn't mean your company cares about you, or anybody but themselvesheretrix

Blizzard does the same thing with wow

actually many long time blizzard fans consider WOW to be a stab in the back ;)

Tney give feed back to their fans

XBL has a huge community/developer rapport.

NEXT!