[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="siddhu33"]

Wonderful.......

Why move a console with the disk inside it, while it is running?

We all knew that is dumb.......

So, I don't see the big deal.

Vinegar_Strokes

Incredibly shoddy workmanship i tells ya, how consoles arent hammer proof in this day and age is beyond me.

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"][QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] He barely moved it though. I admit I do this sometimes with my PS3 while it's playing a game. My xbox so far hasn't done this either but I haven't had it for too long.Zero_epyon

What's the point of moving a console with a spinning disc in it?

That's right, NONE. Not like it's portable or anything.

[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] ROFLMAO. I can't believe they didn't even fixed the scratching issues :lol: I guess we'll keep seeing the RROD too.Snugenz

Incredibly shoddy workmanship i tells ya, how consoles arent hammer proof in this day and age is beyond me.

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"][QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] He barely moved it though. I admit I do this sometimes with my PS3 while it's playing a game. My xbox so far hasn't done this either but I haven't had it for too long.Zero_epyon

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="mayceV"]forget that, imagine a mech game with you in the cockpit. that would be amazing. well mech assult is comming. maybe it could be......JonSnow777

Saying that there is MechWarrior 5 slated for PC and 360 release (MS sold the mech IP back to the former owner of FSA, if it is anything like MechAssault I will be very pissed off), but aside from head tracking motion controls would make the controls much more convoluted and difficult than they already are.

You're not instinctively pushing (one of the many multiple) inputs, or using multiple axis controls, instead you have to visually recognize it, then watch what you are doing to make an input.

Some things sound good in theory much of which doesn't work in practice; which is why I am guessing there has been so little core games, that are much more complex than the simple mini-games shown.

Hell, even with direct input, and physical control things can be horrible, look at Lair.

After playing an hour of MechWarrior Living Legends a moment ago the thought of not using actual physical controls (that mimic the cockpit of a mech) is beyond me.

/mini rant.

Imagine, though, if they integrated motion tracking and voice commands with physical controls though.

You could move the gamecube when a disc was playing.Good times gooooooood times.genaroll

It did have that awesome little latch mechanism though, and just the cutest little discs. :oops:

You could move the gamecube when a disc was playing.Good times gooooooood times.genaroll

[QUOTE="JonSnow777"]

[QUOTE="skrat_01"] Honestly I think it will create a bigger disconnect than actually having physical input.

Saying that there is MechWarrior 5 slated for PC and 360 release (MS sold the mech IP back to the former owner of FSA, if it is anything like MechAssault I will be very pissed off), but aside from head tracking motion controls would make the controls much more convoluted and difficult than they already are.

You're not instinctively pushing (one of the many multiple) inputs, or using multiple axis controls, instead you have to visually recognize it, then watch what you are doing to make an input.

Some things sound good in theory much of which doesn't work in practice; which is why I am guessing there has been so little core games, that are much more complex than the simple mini-games shown.

Hell, even with direct input, and physical control things can be horrible, look at Lair.

After playing an hour of MechWarrior Living Legends a moment ago the thought of not using actual physical controls (that mimic the cockpit of a mech) is beyond me.

/mini rant.

skrat_01

Imagine, though, if they integrated motion tracking and voice commands with physical controls though.

You're absolutely right and everything that we're imagining could be included with a standard controller has already been done, but, if they push the technology and really try to integrate it (instead of tack it on) then it could enhance the traditional controller.

Its alot of wishful thinking i know, but i'm an optimist. :D

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]

Oh nice

New Xbox 360 Destroys Disks When Moved

Microsoft1234

Well I don't live with my mother anymore, but I know that sometimes she'd go on a cleaning spree and she'd move anything. I could be playing a game then she'd pick up the system and move it to a "better" spot. Point is that theres noe xcuses for rings around the disk. Get better dvd players in the system.

What's the point of moving a console with a spinning disc in it?

That's right, NONE. Not like it's portable or anything.

mitu123

Agreed, I thought it was common knowledge to never move your console while a disk is spinning. Anyway, the new 360 was the clear highlight of their conference, in my opinion. Gears 3, Reach and Fable III were great, but they were not surprises. The Kingdoms game could prove to be interesting, but nothing is known about it at this point. It just disappointments me that there were no more good exclusives announced.

[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] ROFLMAO. I can't believe they didn't even fixed the scratching issues :lol: I guess we'll keep seeing the RROD too.Snugenz

Incredibly shoddy workmanship i tells ya, how consoles arent hammer proof in this day and age is beyond me.

wait a minute!!! youre telling me i cant throw this out of a second story window and have it still work?????? FAIL. im glad i have a ps3 :roll:

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="siddhu33"]

Wonderful.......

Why move a console with the disk inside it, while it is running?

We all knew that is dumb.......

So, I don't see the big deal.

Vinegar_Strokes

Yeah like what we saw in the video was the equivalent of smashing it :roll: The PS3 can easily be moved that way without scratching anything. MS is indeed FAIL at design. Even an accidental bump would scratch the disc for what we saw there.

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"][QUOTE="TintedEyes"]

Oh nice

New Xbox 360 Destroys Disks When Moved

bigblunt537

Well I don't live with my mother anymore, but I know that sometimes she'd go on a cleaning spree and she'd move anything. I could be playing a game then she'd pick up the system and move it to a "better" spot. Point is that theres noe xcuses for rings around the disk. Get better dvd players in the system.

[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] ROFLMAO. I can't believe they didn't even fixed the scratching issues :lol: I guess we'll keep seeing the RROD too.kuraimen

Yeah like what we saw in the video was the equivalent of smashing it :roll: The PS3 can easily be moved that way without scratching anything. MS is indeed FAIL at design. Even an accidental bump would scratch the disc for what we saw there.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

What's the point of moving a console with a spinning disc in it?

That's right, NONE. Not like it's portable or anything.

ironcreed

Agreed, I thought it was common knowledge to never move your console while a disk is spinning.

It is but how come the 360 has so much more scratching issues than the other consoles? I don't think that it is because the 360 crowd is more dumb to move their console than the rest of console owners. It is simply because it is badly designed.

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"][QUOTE="TintedEyes"]

Oh nice

New Xbox 360 Destroys Disks When Moved

bigblunt537

Well I don't live with my mother anymore, but I know that sometimes she'd go on a cleaning spree and she'd move anything. I could be playing a game then she'd pick up the system and move it to a "better" spot. Point is that theres noe xcuses for rings around the disk. Get better dvd players in the system.

facepalm, every console can destroy a disk when its moved and the games running This is sigworthyMicrosoft1234

Well I don't live with my mother anymore, but I know that sometimes she'd go on a cleaning spree and she'd move anything. I could be playing a game then she'd pick up the system and move it to a "better" spot. Point is that theres noe xcuses for rings around the disk. Get better dvd players in the system.

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"] facepalm, every console can destroy a disk when its moved and the games running This is sigworthyTintedEyes

Well I don't live with my mother anymore, but I know that sometimes she'd go on a cleaning spree and she'd move anything. I could be playing a game then she'd pick up the system and move it to a "better" spot. Point is that theres noe xcuses for rings around the disk. Get better dvd players in the system.

I've moved my 360 slightly plenty of times without it scratching a disc, but what he did in the video was by no means "slight".

[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

What's the point of moving a console with a spinning disc in it?

That's right, NONE. Not like it's portable or anything.

Agreed, I thought it was common knowledge to never move your console while a disk is spinning.

It is but how come the 360 has so much more scratching issues than the other consoles? I don't think that it is because the 360 crowd is more dumb to move their console than the rest of console owners. It is simply because it is badly designed.

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"][QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

Well I don't live with my mother anymore, but I know that sometimes she'd go on a cleaning spree and she'd move anything. I could be playing a game then she'd pick up the system and move it to a "better" spot. Point is that theres noe xcuses for rings around the disk. Get better dvd players in the system.

Snugenz

I've moved my 360 slightly plenty of times without it scratching a disc, but what he did in the video was by no means "slight".

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"][QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

Well I don't live with my mother anymore, but I know that sometimes she'd go on a cleaning spree and she'd move anything. I could be playing a game then she'd pick up the system and move it to a "better" spot. Point is that theres noe xcuses for rings around the disk. Get better dvd players in the system.

FireEmblem74

Here's a preview and video of the Kinect controlled dashboard (thanks to Engadget). They talk about the good and the bad things they thought about the interface.

Voice control looks pretty cool for those interested (I don't like shouting at my TV and hardly ever use a headset, but if you're cool with doing those things, this could be cool).

The amount of time you have to hover to select was one of my concerns (minor annoyance) and seems like they felt it was slower than using the controller as well.

Still, I can't deny that it looks interesting.

Also, they asked about customizing the dashboard with the different control schemes, like Regular dashboard plus voice control, regular dashboard plus kinect gestures, and other customization options, but the guy didn't have any answers.

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]

Oh nice

New Xbox 360 Destroys Disks When Moved

Microsoft1234

Facepalm, your wrong, PS3 wins. Xbox 360 vs PS3 Disk Scratching

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"][QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

Well I don't live with my mother anymore, but I know that sometimes she'd go on a cleaning spree and she'd move anything. I could be playing a game then she'd pick up the system and move it to a "better" spot. Point is that theres noe xcuses for rings around the disk. Get better dvd players in the system.

Snugenz

I've moved my 360 slightly plenty of times without it scratching a disc, but what he did in the video was by no means "slight".

i love E3 time. the conversation is always so riveting. OH NO the new xbox scratches the disc if you run it over with a car!!!!! xbox sucks, ps3 rules!!! i cant wait for sony and nintendo's briefings today. let all the fanboys out of their cages!!!!

[QUOTE="FireEmblem74"][QUOTE="TintedEyes"] I agree, if the other consoles can be moved slightly without killing the disc 360 should too.TintedEyes

[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

Agreed, I thought it was common knowledge to never move your console while a disk is spinning.

It is but how come the 360 has so much more scratching issues than the other consoles? I don't think that it is because the 360 crowd is more dumb to move their console than the rest of console owners. It is simply because it is badly designed.

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"][QUOTE="TintedEyes"]

Oh nice

New Xbox 360 Destroys Disks When Moved

Blazerdt47

Facepalm, your wrong, PS3 wins. Xbox 360 vs PS3 Disk Scratching

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]

[QUOTE="FireEmblem74"] slightly? i think you may want to look up the dfn the guy picked it up, it wasn't a nudge, and he had it an angle, play you ps3 on a slant and move it vertical or your wii, whatever you have cause your trolling is obviousMicrosoft1234

to those wondering why moving your console will scratch CD may find this help full.

The Gyroscope Demystified - How It Works




Why does a spinning object "want" to maintain its angular orientation? Many physics texts fail to explain this, and instead simply assert that it happens and you should accept it. But that always left me hungry for a real explanation. Here it is:


A gyroscope is at rest in a zero-gravity environment. It consists of a simple smooth (frictionless) disc, and a metal pin running through the center for giving it a spin.The disc is not spinning. Using your finger, you push down on a spot near the edge of the disc.As expected, the disc tilts around its center, easily changing angular orientation.Now we get the disc spinning at a high rate, and do the same experiment again. This time the whole disc moves down, without changing orientation, even though we pushed it near the edge. How did it do that?Now let's do the experiments again, but this time use a red marking pen. Unlike your finger, the marker leaves red ink wherever it pushes an object.With the disc not spinning, we try the experiment. The disc changes orientation easily, as expected, and the red spot on the disc shows where it was pushed.Now we do it with the disc rapidly spinning. As soon as the marker touches the disc, a red circle appears all the way around the disc. This red circle showsall the points where the disc is being pushed down. Naturally, no angular orientation change will occur when the disc is being pushed on all the points of a circular path which is centered on the disc. The whole disc will move down, just as you should expect it to move when you push it down on all points of the red circle!

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"][QUOTE="TintedEyes"]

Oh nice

New Xbox 360 Destroys Disks When Moved

Blazerdt47

Facepalm, your wrong, PS3 wins. Xbox 360 vs PS3 Disk Scratching

[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

What's the point of moving a console with a spinning disc in it?

That's right, NONE. Not like it's portable or anything.

kuraimen

Agreed, I thought it was common knowledge to never move your console while a disk is spinning.

It is but how come the 360 has so much more scratching issues than the other consoles? I don't think that it is because the 360 crowd is more dumb to move their console than the rest of console owners. It is simply because it is badly designed.

I can only speak from my experience, but I have never had such an issue. I have heard the reports, though, but I don't think it is a widespread problem. As for the new 360, I am sure it will be fine as long as you leave it alone while playing your games. Time will tell, I suppose.

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"] facepalm, every console can destroy a disk when its moved and the games running This is sigworthyMicrosoft1234

Facepalm, your wrong, PS3 wins. Xbox 360 vs PS3 Disk Scratching

Your video proves nothing. BTW linked for you because I care so much. :roll:

Anyways, I have never heard not one complaint about how a PS3 scratched a disk and I have not had one problem with my PS3 disks, they are all in perfect condition. On the other hand....well I don't need to explain the situation for the X360 because well...we already know.

lol this is a good argument. MY CONSOLE IS BETTER BECAUSE YOURS SCRATCHES DISCS! LIKE MY CONSOLE NOW!

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"] facepalm, every console can destroy a disk when its moved and the games running This is sigworthyTintedEyes

Facepalm, your wrong, PS3 wins. Xbox 360 vs PS3 Disk Scratching

lol this is a good argument. MY CONSOLE IS BETTER BECAUSE YOURS SCRATCHES DISCS! LIKE MY CONSOLE NOW!

JonSnow777

Although the Gaming Press and general media at the show got Free Redesigned 360's, they don't seem to have actually liked the Xbox show from what I've been reading and watching...

Me? All I did was :cry: while watching it. :(

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"]

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

Facepalm, your wrong, PS3 wins. Xbox 360 vs PS3 Disk Scratching

Blazerdt47

Your video proves nothing. BTW linked for you because I care so much. :roll:

Anyways, I have never heard not one complaint about how a PS3 scratched a disk and I have not had one problem with my PS3 disks, they are all in perfect condition. On the other hand....well I don't need to explain the situation for the X360 because well...we already know.

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

Facepalm, your wrong, PS3 wins. Xbox 360 vs PS3 Disk Scratching

Microsoft1234

Can we please stop discussing the Disk scratching problem? look, PS3 doesnt use a tray and it uses Blu-Ray, (Which is much more scratch resistant than a typical DVD) so it concludes that if you move your PS3, it is much less likely to scratch disks than if you moved an Xbox 360

[QUOTE="JonSnow777"]

lol this is a good argument. MY CONSOLE IS BETTER BECAUSE YOURS SCRATCHES DISCS! LIKE MY CONSOLE NOW!

TintedEyes

How about we talk about something more exciting?

I can sure go for some Kinect right now. ;)

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"]

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

Facepalm, your wrong, PS3 wins. Xbox 360 vs PS3 Disk Scratching

Blazerdt47

Your video proves nothing. BTW linked for you because I care so much. :roll:

Anyways, I have never heard not one complaint about how a PS3 scratched a disk and I have not had one problem with my PS3 disks, they are all in perfect condition. On the other hand....well I don't need to explain the situation for the X360 because well...we already know.

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"]

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"] Exactly obviously one scratches much easier than the other.

TintedEyes

Although the Gaming Press and general media at the show got Free Redesigned 360's, they don't seem to have actually liked the Xbox show from what I've been reading and watching...

Me? All I did was :cry: while watching it. :(

SolidTy

I was more like :| just couldnt believe this Kinect stuff is what they filled thier conference with.

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"] how am i wrong they both scratch disks and two systems out of the millions out there hardly proves a point http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ps3+scratches+disc&aq=f have fun.

Microsoft1234

Your video proves nothing. BTW linked for you because I care so much. :roll:

Anyways, I have never heard not one complaint about how a PS3 scratched a disk and I have not had one problem with my PS3 disks, they are all in perfect condition. On the other hand....well I don't need to explain the situation for the X360 because well...we already know.

How about we conclude that one should not be moving a console while they are playing in the first place? Honestly who the heck would move their system while they are playing? Meh...

microsoft must of paid spike to view there conference because it doesn't seem like they are gonna show nintendo or sony con. hmm I wonder why that is. Thankfully I got the g4 channel ;3

why are we still talking about disk scratching? let's change topic at hand.