Microsoft: E3 all about games, next Xbox has 'so many exclusives'

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] GT5 is not on PSP or Vita.NathanDrakeSwag

What makes you think anyone cares about handheld versions? Playing a game thats available on a home console in hd on a handheld instead is dumb. I laugh at you for being dumb enough to buy a Vita.

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] GT5 is not on PSP or Vita.Jakandsigz

timers owns himself for the 2nd time in this thread.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

Don't you think that is a problem if it has taken them 8 months to make a game playable? Bungie is probably laughing their asses off.

NathanDrakeSwag

This is why it took so long to do this.

From the matvchmaking system teams

The biggest difficulty in tuning the Halo 4 sandbox is that we support so many different modes (at a high level, we have Campaign, Spartan Ops, and Multiplayer). But each of those gets broken down even further: co-op (1-4 players), difficulty levels, Skulls, Forge, saved films, and a plethora of different multiplayer modes, some of which have different traits that further modify sandbox elements. From that perspective, just fully vetting and testing everything can be an incredibly complex and challenging problem. What might seem like a relatively simple change can quickly turn into a logistical nightmare for our testing team. Start changing multiple things at the same time, and it gets even harder! And thats just looking at things from a high level and ignoring the impact of loadouts and the fact that our low-level moment-to-moment gameplay provides players with so many tactical choices and interplay (golden triangle of guns/melee/grenades + Armor Abilities, vehicles, and regenerating health/shields + headshots, and so on).

Also the post launch support was a mess until january.Why the hell are we talking about halo 4 here?

All of that could've been prevented had they not completely changed how multiplayer works. They wanted to put their name on the game and make people forget about Bungie and every change they made was rejected by the fans. Even the biggest fanboys can't say anything positive about it.

They wanted to make a game that felt new and at the same time was familiar. The campaign was pretty typical for a halo game, but the most changes are in the MP and some of the changes like the personal ordinace are not good, but they are not as broken as some of the cod versions of these things.I have watched my cousins play the mp of a couple of cod games and I played a bit of the campaign of MW2. The only thing that I thought that completely broke the game is Join in Progress because sometimes it would put me in a  laggy game or a match that is almost done.Also I would also get an endless black screen at times when the host change and the match may end when the screen disappears or I would have to deal with a crazy amount of lag.My connection is pretty good.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"] Just checked. It has about 70,000 people online. That is not dead. Also- Cows really need to quit saying GT5, MLB, Modnation Racers, LBP, PS AllStar Battle Royale, and now Ratchet and Clank FFA are exclusives. All of those games are on PSP or Vita.NathanDrakeSwag

You mean 31000 for halo 4.

timbers = owned

Probably a  bunch of shooters and kinect shit. No thanks.

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

You mean 31000 for halo 4.

timbers_WSU

timbers = owned

Are you getting your population number from somewhere else because I'm using the waypoint site right now and it's around 31K.

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

You mean 31000 for halo 4.

timbers_WSU

timbers = owned

super600 will have to call you out for lying again. Halo 4 hasn't been close to 70k in months. Add about 2k to these numbers and that is the most it reaches a day

http://halocharts.com/2012/chart/dailypeakpopulation/all

Probably a  bunch of shooters and kinect shit. No thanks.

Zen_Light

I really think cows are gonna cry tears of sorrow on the 21st, they are so scared its funny.

#dealwithitbitchcow

They need a streak before I pay attention again. They could release tons of exclusives in the first year, but then what about the next?darkspineslayer

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"][QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

timbers = owned

NathanDrakeSwag

super600 will have to call you out for lying again. Halo 4 hasn't been close to 70k in months. Add about 2k to these numbers and that is the most it reaches a day

http://halocharts.com/2012/chart/dailypeakpopulation/all

[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]They need a streak before I pay attention again. They could release tons of exclusives in the first year, but then what about the next?Zen_Light

[QUOTE="Zen_Light"]

[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]They need a streak before I pay attention again. They could release tons of exclusives in the first year, but then what about the next?Jakandsigz

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

This is why it took so long to do this.

From the matvchmaking system teams

The biggest difficulty in tuning the Halo 4 sandbox is that we support so many different modes (at a high level, we have Campaign, Spartan Ops, and Multiplayer). But each of those gets broken down even further: co-op (1-4 players), difficulty levels, Skulls, Forge, saved films, and a plethora of different multiplayer modes, some of which have different traits that further modify sandbox elements. From that perspective, just fully vetting and testing everything can be an incredibly complex and challenging problem. What might seem like a relatively simple change can quickly turn into a logistical nightmare for our testing team. Start changing multiple things at the same time, and it gets even harder! And thats just looking at things from a high level and ignoring the impact of loadouts and the fact that our low-level moment-to-moment gameplay provides players with so many tactical choices and interplay (golden triangle of guns/melee/grenades + Armor Abilities, vehicles, and regenerating health/shields + headshots, and so on).

Also the post launch support was a mess until january.Why the hell are we talking about halo 4 here?

super600

All of that could've been prevented had they not completely changed how multiplayer works. They wanted to put their name on the game and make people forget about Bungie and every change they made was rejected by the fans. Even the biggest fanboys can't say anything positive about it.

They wanted to make a game that felt new and at the same time was familiar. The campaign was pretty typical for a halo game, but the most changes are in the MP and some of the changes like the personal ordinace are not good, but they are not as broken as some of the cod versions of these things.I have watched my cousins play the mp of a couple of cod games and I played a bit of the campaign of MW2. The only thing that I thought that completely broke the game is Join in Progress because sometimes it would put me in a  laggy game or a match that is almost done.Also I would also get an endless black screen at times when the host change and the match may end when the screen disappears or I would have to deal with a crazy amount of lag.My connection is pretty good.

I think loadouts and armor abilities were game breakers. It made the multiplayer random instead of skill based. Most people used camo and camped with a DMR. I stopped playing after the free trial ended. No way that shit was worth buying a gold sub for.

[QUOTE="Zen_Light"]

[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]They need a streak before I pay attention again. They could release tons of exclusives in the first year, but then what about the next?Jakandsigz

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

All of that could've been prevented had they not completely changed how multiplayer works. They wanted to put their name on the game and make people forget about Bungie and every change they made was rejected by the fans. Even the biggest fanboys can't say anything positive about it.

NathanDrakeSwag

They wanted to make a game that felt new and at the same time was familiar. The campaign was pretty typical for a halo game, but the most changes are in the MP and some of the changes like the personal ordinace are not good, but they are not as broken as some of the cod versions of these things.I have watched my cousins play the mp of a couple of cod games and I played a bit of the campaign of MW2. The only thing that I thought that completely broke the game is Join in Progress because sometimes it would put me in a  laggy game or a match that is almost done.Also I would also get an endless black screen at times when the host change and the match may end when the screen disappears or I would have to deal with a crazy amount of lag.My connection is pretty good.

I think loadouts and armor abilities were game breakers. It made the multiplayer random instead of skill based. Most people used camo and camped with a DMR. I stopped playing after the free trial ended. No way that shit was worth buying a gold sub for.

I'm fine with the armor abilities besides the camo one.

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"][QUOTE="Zen_Light"]Just like they did with 360. Fool me once...darkspineslayer

Kinect games and mediocre indy games, you can't fool me microsoft.

I really hope they do another Crackdown. CanYouDiglt

Hopefully "A lot of those Exclusives" don't include most Kinect Games.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"] PS4 =/= PS3 Considering the PS4 lineup shown so far shits all over the last several years of 360 exclusives, I think I'll do alright. ;)darkspineslayer

MS has had quite a few failures @ E3 the past few years. I dont see how people can't be worried.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"] PS4 =/= PS3 Considering the PS4 lineup shown so far shits all over the last several years of 360 exclusives, I think I'll do alright. ;)darkspineslayer

Along with it so many Kinect gifs.  I'm hyped. 

Well it's time for MS to put up or shut up.

[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] What great exclusives did they show for PS4? All I saw was a bunch of multiplats and one interesting game(Infamous, hopefully this one doesnt suck like Infamous 2)RR360DD

No one cares about your opinion bro, cool story though. I thought exclusives didn't matter, now you want to be anal about them when discussing the PS4 conference, what a hypocrite lmao. 

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"][QUOTE="Zen_Light"]Just like they did with 360. Fool me once...

Zen_Light

[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] What great exclusives did they show for PS4? All I saw was a bunch of multiplats and one interesting game(Infamous, hopefully this one doesnt suck like Infamous 2)mems_1224

Maybe if you remove Steve Balmers cock from your mouth, you'll see they're great games. Let MS announce HGF again and you'll be all over them. Gtfo Lem :lol:

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"] Knack?, Driveclub?, Killzone?, Witness (timed)? Quality of these games have yet to be seen, but they are all exclusive.AlphaJX

Maybe if you remove Steve Balmers cock from your mouth, you'll see they're great games. Let MS announce HGF again and you'll be all over them. Gtfo Lem :lol:

[QUOTE="Zen_Light"]

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"] 2005-2010=5 years. 2009-2013=4 years. So basically you wold rather wiat with a system and play no games for 3-4 year than have a great stream with slight slowdown on the 5th year for 5 years?Jakandsigz

[QUOTE="AlphaJX"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]Knack, Driveclub and Killzone all looked great to you?? They looked pretty shitty to me other than nice graphics. Witness isn't exclusive so why is it on that list? mems_1224

Maybe if you remove Steve Balmers cock from your mouth, you'll see they're great games. Let MS announce HGF again and you'll be all over them. Gtfo Lem :lol:

All the genres are covered, much better than what MS will announce given their track record. HGF wash, rinse,  repeat.  What happened when they tried something different? You get shitty titles like Too Human, Ninja Blade,  and Crackdown. 

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="AlphaJX"]

Maybe if you remove Steve Balmers cock from your mouth, you'll see they're great games. Let MS announce HGF again and you'll be all over them. Gtfo Lem :lol:

AlphaJX

All the genres are covered, much better than what MS will announce given their track record. HGF wash, rinse,  repeat.  What happened when they tried something different? You get shitty titles like Too Human, Ninja Blade,  and Crackdown. 

[QUOTE="AlphaJX"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] They're great games? You've played them?mems_1224

All the genres are covered, much better than what MS will announce given their track record. HGF wash, rinse,  repeat.  What happened when they tried something different? You get shitty titles like Too Human, Ninja Blade,  and Crackdown. 

Based on track record......... can you read? 

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="AlphaJX"]

All the genres are covered, much better than what MS will announce given their track record. HGF wash, rinse,  repeat.  What happened when they tried something different? You get shitty titles like Too Human, Ninja Blade,  and Crackdown. 

AlphaJX

Based on track record......... can you read? 

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"][QUOTE="Zen_Light"]Yes, because I have other systems and games to occupy my time, and I'll save a fortune on discounted games and hardware later on.

Zen_Light

http://www.forbes.com/sites/nigamarora/2013/05/17/bill-gates-has-xbox-720-to-thank-for-new-wealth-growth-spurt/

cows are hating this new, oh yeah

#dealwithitbitchcows

[QUOTE="Zen_Light"]

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"] I'll try it one more time. So you would rather have a system with no games for 3-4 years with only the 5th having decent games and 6th 7th years years full with games than a system with games coming and coming for 5 years? With the 6th and 7th year with falling but steady and the 8th with halts. You are choosing the one up top? I see the brain can be damaged in many ways.Jakandsigz

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"] Knack?, Driveclub?, Killzone?, Witness (timed)? Quality of these games have yet to be seen, but they are all exclusive.AlphaJX

No one cares about your opinion bro, cool story though. I thought exclusives didn't matter, now you want to be anal about them when discussing the PS4 conference, what a hypocrite lmao.