Microsoft has revealed Xbox One final production spec

things are shaping up nicely

#respect it

Most of the stats revealed in the presentation tie in closely with the white papers describing beta "Durango" hardware, previously revealed in the SuperDaE leaks, though there are some interesting new additions, such as a 30GB/s link from the CPU to the DDR3 RAM. In contrast, PlayStation 4 is believed to have 20GB/s access to the 8GB of GDDR5, while the graphics hardware has the full 176GB/s bandwidth available. We also see that the 32MB of ESRAM (embedded static RAM) used by Xbox One for accelerated GPU processing is actually a cluster of four 8MB modules, each with a 256-bit bus, operating in parallel to facilitate its wide bandwidth.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-xbox-one-cpu-speed-increased-in-production-hardware

So what does all that mumbo jumbo mean exactly

Xone > PS4?

Someone other than rolfencia translate please.

So what does all that mumbo jumbo mean exactly

Xone > PS4?

chikenfriedrice

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

So what does all that mumbo jumbo mean exactly

Xone > PS4?

legalize82

that souce sure is too spicey for you especially with the amount of salt you got

#dat jelly tingly

Umm Old. There's a what 20 page thread on this?

It's the minor CPU speed increase

"the Xbox One's CPU capabilities are a significant step ahead. Audio-wise, Microsoft's hardware is also impressive, with DSP effects, mixing and other features effectively available for "free" to developers, where PS4's set-up only decodes compressed audio formats"

TCHBO :cool:

They just increased the CPU clock by 9%....Cablebox One is still way weaker than the PS4.

I mean, just look at this gif:

gaddayum.

And the game runs at 1080p 60fps!

"the Xbox One's CPU capabilities are a significant step ahead. Audio-wise, Microsoft's hardware is also impressive, with DSP effects, mixing and other features effectively available for "free" to developers, where PS4's set-up only decodes compressed audio formats"

 

TCHBO :cool:

RR360DD

I also think that's BS as PS3 already decodes everything.

They just increased the CPU clock by 9%....Cablebox One is still way weaker than the PS4.

I mean, just look at this gif:

*Resogun gif*

gaddayum.

And the game runs at 1080p 60fps!

XVision84

Resogun looks great, but i don't think it's the best example of PS4 capabilities. It's still a side-scroling shooter! I'm not sure we will be able to see that amount of particles in the most hardware demanding retail games.

Both consoles seem pretty powerful, though. System wars will be awesome next gen!

So what does all that mumbo jumbo mean exactly

Xone > PS4?

chikenfriedrice

Nope! PS4 150% higher GPU power. The rest is practically the same. PS4 > X1. 

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

"the Xbox One's CPU capabilities are a significant step ahead. Audio-wise, Microsoft's hardware is also impressive, with DSP effects, mixing and other features effectively available for "free" to developers, where PS4's set-up only decodes compressed audio formats"

TCHBO :cool:

Chutebox

I also think that's BS as PS3 already decodes everything.

things are shaping up nicely

#respect it

Most of the stats revealed in the presentation tie in closely with the white papers describing beta "Durango" hardware, previously revealed in the SuperDaE leaks, though there are some interesting new additions, such as a 30GB/s link from the CPU to the DDR3 RAM. In contrast, PlayStation 4 is believed to have 20GB/s access to the 8GB of GDDR5, while the graphics hardware has the full 176GB/s bandwidth available. We also see that the 32MB of ESRAM (embedded static RAM) used by Xbox One for accelerated GPU processing is actually a cluster of four 8MB modules, each with a 256-bit bus, operating in parallel to facilitate its wide bandwidth.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-xbox-one-cpu-speed-increased-in-production-hardware

Cuby_Finest

There are 2 connections from the CPU one is 20GB/s for the CPU to the memory and another 10GB/ one directly to the GPU.

What I think is hilarious is after the last 2 months of XBOX ONE bashing, the truth is coming to light and low and behold the massive difference in power between the PS4 and XBOX ONE isn't so massive anymore. They are basically the same machine and get the same results in a different way. We are getting closer and closer to the reality that is known as demo kiosks and games to be played by the masses. I think Sony is going to find out that their machine isn't quite as much of an upgrade as the XBOX ONE is over the past generation when you consider the entire package of capabilities of each machine. ShoTTyMcNaDeS

"the Xbox One's CPU capabilities are a significant step ahead. Audio-wise, Microsoft's hardware is also impressive, with DSP effects, mixing and other features effectively available for "free" to developers, where PS4's set-up only decodes compressed audio formats"

 

TCHBO :cool:

RR360DD

Na is the same CPU,even if the PS4 CPU end up been 1.6 it meas nothing.

Audio wise the xbox one requires more resources than the PS and that include Kinect features,and is totally irrelevant because the PS4 also has a sound block and no it doesn't just decode compressed audio format Cerny never say that you people should stop because inventing crap about the PS4 will not make the PS4 hardare fail.

Here is the cold facts..

1.84TF vs 1.31 (1.18 TF if we count the 10% GPU reservation).

1.7 ghz vs 1.6 ghz this is basically a joke is nothing,specially when the PS4 can use its compute side for phycis and other jobs without impacting graphics,while the CPU on the xbox would be stock running those,there is no confirmation on core use for the OS for the PS4 either.

At the end of the day inventing things and trying to hype useless bumps mean nothing the PS4 is stronger.

But this does prove one thing how desperate MS is to catch the PS4 performance wise,and how silly many of you including your self who believed the whole 40 times stronger with the cloud crap.

What I think is hilarious is after the last 2 months of XBOX ONE bashing, the truth is coming to light and low and behold the massive difference in power between the PS4 and XBOX ONE isn't so massive anymore. They are basically the same machine and get the same results in a different way. We are getting closer and closer to the reality that is known as demo kiosks and games to be played by the masses. I think Sony is going to find out that their machine isn't quite as much of an upgrade as the XBOX ONE is over the past generation when you consider the entire package of capabilities of each machine. ShoTTyMcNaDeS

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/549?vs=536

What 480Gflops of difference in GCN can ammount to.

The PS4 has some 600Gflops or more on the xbox one,fact is you can take a 7770 and give it 7950 bandwidth it will mean nothing,any one with even basic knowledge on GPU can tell you this,because bandwidth is not a performance enhancer the xbox one with his 10% GPU reservation actuall has less flops than the 7770,even if you give it 1 terabyte of bandwidth it will still be a weak GPU,this is like pretending that if you give the 7770 a 7970 banwidth it will perform like a 7970 that is totaly sad and wrong.

They just increased the CPU clock by 9%....Cablebox One is still way weaker than the PS4.

I mean, just look at this gif:

gaddayum.

And the game runs at 1080p 60fps!

XVision84

I am sure the Xbox One can run that game the same too. 

So what does all that mumbo jumbo mean exactly

chikenfriedrice

Love watching the Xbots and Cows battle it out, so much misinformation thrown by both sides :lol:

/popcorn

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

So what does all that mumbo jumbo mean exactly

foxhound_fox

It means those consoles will be getting Fallout and TES.SaltyMeatballs

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

They just increased the CPU clock by 9%....Cablebox One is still way weaker than the PS4.

I mean, just look at this gif:

gaddayum.

And the game runs at 1080p 60fps!

xhawk27

I am sure the Xbox One can run that game the same too. 

cows are funny right?    this is a freaking INDIE game lol

things are shaping up nicely

#respect it

Most of the stats revealed in the presentation tie in closely with the white papers describing beta "Durango" hardware, previously revealed in the SuperDaE leaks, though there are some interesting new additions, such as a 30GB/s link from the CPU to the DDR3 RAM. In contrast, PlayStation 4 is believed to have 20GB/s access to the 8GB of GDDR5, while the graphics hardware has the full 176GB/s bandwidth available. We also see that the 32MB of ESRAM (embedded static RAM) used by Xbox One for accelerated GPU processing is actually a cluster of four 8MB modules, each with a 256-bit bus, operating in parallel to facilitate its wide bandwidth.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-xbox-one-cpu-speed-increased-in-production-hardware

Cuby_Finest

Old news is old. It doesn't mean shit actually. They increased the CPU clockspeed by 9%, they still have the inferior RAM and GPU.Kaz_Son

Love watching the Xbots and Cows battle it out, so much misinformation thrown by both sides :lol:

 

/popcorn

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[QUOTE="Kaz_Son"]Old news is old. It doesn't mean shit actually. They increased the CPU clockspeed by 9%, they still have the inferior RAM and GPU.curono

[QUOTE="curono"][QUOTE="Kaz_Son"]Old news is old. It doesn't mean shit actually. They increased the CPU clockspeed by 9%, they still have the inferior RAM and GPU.blackace

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

So what does all that mumbo jumbo mean exactly

Xone > PS4?

clr84651

Nope! PS4 150% higher GPU power. The rest is practically the same. PS4 > X1.

On CU front, PS4 has 40 percent more power than X1.

X1 has greater GPU memory write performance.

As for PS4's GPU+MEM vs X1's GPU+MEM1+MEM2, it depends on the workload type.

[QUOTE="Cuby_Finest"]

things are shaping up nicely

#respect it

Most of the stats revealed in the presentation tie in closely with the white papers describing beta "Durango" hardware, previously revealed in the SuperDaE leaks, though there are some interesting new additions, such as a 30GB/s link from the CPU to the DDR3 RAM. In contrast, PlayStation 4 is believed to have 20GB/s access to the 8GB of GDDR5, while the graphics hardware has the full 176GB/s bandwidth available. We also see that the 32MB of ESRAM (embedded static RAM) used by Xbox One for accelerated GPU processing is actually a cluster of four 8MB modules, each with a 256-bit bus, operating in parallel to facilitate its wide bandwidth.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-xbox-one-cpu-speed-increased-in-production-hardware

Netherscourge

X1's GPU has access to 204 GB/s 32MB ESRAM. On Xbox 360, 10 MB EDRAM handled 1280x720p and just under 720p render targets. The difference between 1920x1080p and 1280x720p in pixel count is 2.25X i.e. ~22MB

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

So what does all that mumbo jumbo mean exactly

Xone > PS4?

legalize82

It's Bonaire minus the gimped external/L2 cache I/O i.e. the factor that stops 7790 from effectively using faster memory.

Refer to the prototype 7850 with 12 CUs(768 stream processors) and 153.6 GB/s memory bandwidth.

[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"]What I think is hilarious is after the last 2 months of XBOX ONE bashing, the truth is coming to light and low and behold the massive difference in power between the PS4 and XBOX ONE isn't so massive anymore. They are basically the same machine and get the same results in a different way. We are getting closer and closer to the reality that is known as demo kiosks and games to be played by the masses. I think Sony is going to find out that their machine isn't quite as much of an upgrade as the XBOX ONE is over the past generation when you consider the entire package of capabilities of each machine. tormentos

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/549?vs=536

What 480Gflops of difference in GCN can ammount to.

The PS4 has some 600Gflops or more on the xbox one,fact is you can take a 7770 and give it 7950 bandwidth it will mean nothing,any one with even basic knowledge on GPU can tell you this,because bandwidth is not a performance enhancer the xbox one with his 10% GPU reservation actuall has less flops than the 7770,even if you give it 1 terabyte of bandwidth it will still be a weak GPU,this is like pretending that if you give the 7770 a 7970 banwidth it will perform like a 7970 that is totaly sad and wrong.

You not factoring GPU's internal bus that links L2 cache +memory controllers with the rest of the GPU.

Due to internal bus issues, faster memory on 7770 or 7790 would be pointless.

7770's result is different to the prototype-7850 with 12 CUs.

They just increased the CPU clock by 9%....Cablebox One is still way weaker than the PS4.

I mean, just look at this gif:

gaddayum.

And the game runs at 1080p 60fps!

XVision84

Lets all be honest here, Im getting both systems because im a gamer and not a fanboy, but in reality the the multi plats are going to be play and feel the same with 2 big differences, they will look a little better on the PS4, but will have better online play one the XBone as they better online with all their servers and Xbox Live, but again I will get to enjoy all the exclusives un like the fanboys. the only systems I currently do not play are Wii u and PC, not that the PC is bad, its great, and well....the Wii U Sucks but the PC is good loltsgamer82

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

So what does all that mumbo jumbo mean exactly

Xone > PS4?

clr84651

Nope! PS4 150% higher GPU power. The rest is practically the same. PS4 > X1. 

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

They just increased the CPU clock by 9%....Cablebox One is still way weaker than the PS4.

I mean, just look at this gif:

gaddayum.

And the game runs at 1080p 60fps!

XBOunity

I am sure the Xbox One can run that game the same too. 

cows are funny right?    this is a freaking INDIE game lol

[QUOTE="clr84651"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

So what does all that mumbo jumbo mean exactly

Xone > PS4?

ronvalencia

Nope! PS4 150% higher GPU power. The rest is practically the same. PS4 > X1.

On CU front, PS4 has 40 percent more power than X1.

X1 has greater GPU memory write performance.

As for PS4's GPU+MEM vs X1's GPU+MEM1+MEM2, it depends on the workload type.

POWER OF X1

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="clr84651"]

Nope! PS4 150% higher GPU power. The rest is practically the same. PS4 > X1.

FoxbatAlpha

On CU front, PS4 has 40 percent more power than X1.

X1 has greater GPU memory write performance.

As for PS4's GPU+MEM vs X1's GPU+MEM1+MEM2, it depends on the workload type.

Show me the math?

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]It means those consoles will be getting Fallout and TES.foxhound_fox

So basically both consoles are pretty even in terms of power and games will look similar on both consoles, just like this gen... With some games looking slightly better on one or the other. Case closed.

[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

On CU front, PS4 has 40 percent more power than X1.

X1 has greater GPU memory write performance.

As for PS4's GPU+MEM vs X1's GPU+MEM1+MEM2, it depends on the workload type.

GravityX

Show me the math?

So basically both consoles are pretty even in terms of power and games will look similar on both consoles, just like this gen... With some games looking slightly better on one or the other. Case closed.

hrt_rulz01

So basically both consoles are pretty even in terms of power and games will look similar on both consoles, just like this gen... With some games looking slightly better on one or the other. Case closed.

hrt_rulz01

Nope Xflop is still fairly weaker.