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#1 LuvGaming
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With Nintendo's Wii currently storming on in the next-gen console market, Microsoft boss Bill Gates has admitted that his company is looking to integrate motion-sensing controls into its gaming hardware.

CVG reports that at last week's All Things D conference, Gates stated: "Imagine a game machine where you're just going to pick up the bat and swing it or the tennis racket and swing it."

Earlier this year Xbox boss Peter Moore admitted that his firm is looking into the possibility of integrating motion control into the 360 joypad, stating: "We have plans. This does not come as a surprise."

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/27382/Microsoft-hints-at-motion-sensing-360 

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#2 SmashBrosLegend
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Adding things this big to consoles already in full stride doesn't seem all that smart to me.
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#3 downPlayDemon
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Well tell M$ not to bother, according to system wars most lemmings think it is a gimmick
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#4 Firelore29
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This simply won't work.  You can't tack a motion sensing controler on after the fact.  It won't sell and no one will develop games for it.
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#5 LuvGaming
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I guess Nintendo is making MS sweat more than we had originally thought.

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#6 Zhengi
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Well tell M$ not to bother, according to system wars most lemmings think it is a gimmickdownPlayDemon
But.. but... teh GIMMICK! :cry: Watch those same MS fanboys turn around and tout motion control once it hits the 360. That'll be fun to watch.
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#7 Acenso
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If they are going to do it...Do not do it half ***ed and make it a cheap gimmick like Sony.

And if they do it...Create your own line of those casual games for it. 

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#8 butterob
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motion sensing will be next gen... although i would still prefer to play with a conventional controller forever
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#9 TecmoGirl
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integrating motion control into the 360 joypad

Im all for the idea of more motion sensing, however, if they are going to do it that way, then I'll happily pass on this idea myself.

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#10 Dahaka-UK
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Nintendo Wii doesn't sell so well because of it's gimicky motion sensing, it sells well because it's cheap as chips...  Microsoft need to get that into there thick skulls if they are really thinking of adding motion sensing.
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#11 -The-G-Man-
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Imagine a game machine where you're just going to pick up the bat and swing it or the tennis racket and swing it.

Bill Gates

There already is one; it's called a Wii.  Sorry, Bill.

On a side note, hoping to compete with the Wii in motion sensing is hopeless.  A console with add-on motion sensing will never have as many games that use motion sensing as a console with motion sensing as the main control scheme.

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#12 MTBare
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Is it just me or does Bill Gates look like Stephen Hawking in that picture.
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#13 Truth_Hurts_U
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No thanks, I wanna play my games the traditional way. If I wanted something different I would have bought a Wii.
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#14 CaN_U_DiGiT454
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I wish people would stop with the "bu...bu...but teh *insert random bs here*" thing. It's really getting cliche`.
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#15 TheDarkDisciple
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No thanks, I wanna play my games the traditional way. If I wanted something different I would have bought a Wii.Truth_Hurts_U
same here. If it's going to be on the 360 for those who want it, then fine. I hope they have it in every advertisement and commercial like the Wii does, which is really a gimmick.
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#16 Kevanio
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they should create a new controller for xbla and have titles like MS sports and MS play on it, lol but create a controller for casual games and then crank out party games on xbla
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I love all the "it will suck" or "Wii is the only place to do motion sensing" comments at a report that MS said they are thinking about adding motion-sensing. No information, no details, hell they didn't even confirm anything and the fanboys go rampant. For all we know MS's motion sensing controller will beat the wii like a red-headed stepchild.
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#18 Vandalvideo
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There is a third party motion sensing peripheral coming for all platforms in 2008 >_>
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I love all the "it will suck" or "Wii is the only place to do motion sensing" comments at a report that MS said they are thinking about adding motion-sensing. No information, no details, hell they didn't even confirm anything and the fanboys go rampant. For all we know MS's motion sensing controller will beat the wii like a red-headed stepchild.pundog

It doesn't matter if it's better.  Heck it could be 100 times better but it won't sell.  Aftermarket controllers simply don't sell.  This has been tried before many many times.  The problem is that M$ may make a few games for it but developers will not because most of the people who own a 360 won't buy this add on.

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#20 SpaceDragonMan
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I think that would be a bad idea, and I know something about bad ideas, trust me.......

 

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Well tell M$ not to bother, according to system wars most lemmings think it is a gimmickdownPlayDemon

It is a gimmick and I doubt MS would go that way with a controller. If they do I would become a hermit and go on welfare and use all my money for PC parts.

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#22 The_PirateKing
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~-~Aw MS what the hell?:( Keep it this way things are just fine. The only good thing about the Wii having it is how it points, everything else is just the same as pushing a button except you can't kick back and do it.~-~
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#23 tazzydnc
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and let the countdown begin until wii is obsolete...  I pity nintendo since wii is such a great console with an awesome and totally innovative controller but when you put so much stock in a peripheral it's only a matter of time until the competition catches up.
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Go for it. But I won't be getting it.
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[QUOTE="pundog"]I love all the "it will suck" or "Wii is the only place to do motion sensing" comments at a report that MS said they are thinking about adding motion-sensing. No information, no details, hell they didn't even confirm anything and the fanboys go rampant. For all we know MS's motion sensing controller will beat the wii like a red-headed stepchild.Firelore29

It doesn't matter if it's better.  Heck it could be 100 times better but it won't sell.  Aftermarket controllers simply don't sell.  This has been tried before many many times.  The problem is that M$ may make a few games for it but developers will not because most of the people who own a 360 won't buy this add on.

You may have heard of this little controller called the dualshock...
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Look at the Eye-Toy.  By all accounts that was amazing technology.  The problem is that there was what 2 games for it?  I've said it once and I'll say it again aftermarket remotes don't sell and publishers simply don't develop games for them.
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[QUOTE="Firelore29"]

[QUOTE="pundog"]I love all the "it will suck" or "Wii is the only place to do motion sensing" comments at a report that MS said they are thinking about adding motion-sensing. No information, no details, hell they didn't even confirm anything and the fanboys go rampant. For all we know MS's motion sensing controller will beat the wii like a red-headed stepchild.pundog

It doesn't matter if it's better.  Heck it could be 100 times better but it won't sell.  Aftermarket controllers simply don't sell.  This has been tried before many many times.  The problem is that M$ may make a few games for it but developers will not because most of the people who own a 360 won't buy this add on.

You may have heard of this little controller called the dualshock...

BIG difference.  Unless they are going to make the motion sensing like the PS3's sixaxis I can't see how they can convert their controller into a Wiimote.

Also they added in dual shock really soon after the PS1 was released and it doesn't really change the control of the game.  That doesn't even compare to this.

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Well tell M$ not to bother, according to system wars most lemmings think it is a gimmickdownPlayDemon

It is.  The last thing I want is MS to waste time on that garbage.

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Revolution!
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[QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="Firelore29"]

[QUOTE="pundog"]I love all the "it will suck" or "Wii is the only place to do motion sensing" comments at a report that MS said they are thinking about adding motion-sensing. No information, no details, hell they didn't even confirm anything and the fanboys go rampant. For all we know MS's motion sensing controller will beat the wii like a red-headed stepchild.Firelore29

It doesn't matter if it's better.  Heck it could be 100 times better but it won't sell.  Aftermarket controllers simply don't sell.  This has been tried before many many times.  The problem is that M$ may make a few games for it but developers will not because most of the people who own a 360 won't buy this add on.

You may have heard of this little controller called the dualshock...

BIG difference.  Unless they are going to make the motion sensing like the PS3's sixaxis I can't see how they can convert their controller into a Wiimote.

Also they added in dual shock really soon after the PS1 was released and it doesn't actually effect the control of the game.  That doesn't even compare to this.

How do you know they'll make it like the sixaxis? For all we know they're doing something like the Wiimote or something we've never seen before. Thats my point, people are condemning a product to failure when they have absolutely zero information on it. They don't have to convert the standard 360 pad into anything, they could just release a standalone motion-sensing controller. If people will pay extra for a guitar hero controller that only works with one game then they'll pay for a new, motion sensing controller too (assuming the support is there).
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At least one company is starting to admit to copying Nintendo's ideas.
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[QUOTE="Firelore29"][QUOTE="pundog"] You may have heard of this little controller called the dualshock...pundog

BIG difference.  Unless they are going to make the motion sensing like the PS3's sixaxis I can't see how they can convert their controller into a Wiimote.

Also they added in dual shock really soon after the PS1 was released and it doesn't actually effect the control of the game.  That doesn't even compare to this.

How do you know they'll make it like the sixaxis? For all we know they're doing something like the Wiimote or something we've never seen before. Thats my point, people are condemning a product to failure when they have absolutely zero information on it. They don't have to convert the standard 360 pad into anything, they could just release a standalone motion-sensing controller. If people will pay extra for a guitar hero controller that only works with one game then they'll pay for a new, motion sensing controller too (assuming the support is there).

That's not the point.  The point is that it may be great for a few games but it's not going to be something that developers will produce a number of games for.  You mentioned Guitar Hero, yes it's wonderful, but there are only 2 games that use the guitar and they are both Guitar Hero games. 

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bu bu bu teh gimmick!!!!
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That's not the point.  The point is that it may be great for a few games but it's not going to be something that developers will produce a number of games for.  You mentioned Guitar Hero, yes it's wonderful, but there are only 2 games that use the guitar and they are both Guitar Hero games. Firelore29
So now you know what games will and won't support it? That must be a pretty sweet job at Mircosoft you have.
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#35 SecretPolice
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           Guys - this is all about giving the consumer what they want and if a Xmote means " N " will need to do more than a gimmick to get sales; I'm all for it - I mean if the Wiimote makes " teh game play for these noobs " than MS should cut " N " at the knees.

          Also - since B.G. sorta already let the cat out of the bag; MS already has what is needed to do it ( hint hint ) using an actual bat or racket you know - nuff said lmao ;)

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#36 mestizoman
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lemmings ranted about how it was omgodz teh gimmick

tlhbo, badly!

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[QUOTE="Firelore29"]That's not the point.  The point is that it may be great for a few games but it's not going to be something that developers will produce a number of games for.  You mentioned Guitar Hero, yes it's wonderful, but there are only 2 games that use the guitar and they are both Guitar Hero games. pundog
So now you know what games will and won't support it? That must be a pretty sweet job at Mircosoft you have.

It's called past experience.  Why don't you list one add on remote that was added to a console that took off to the point that other 3rd party publishers/developers made games for it..  There will be some people who buy this accessory sure, but no where near all 10 million 360 owners will.  In turn 3rd party developers won't spend time developing games for it.

Otherwise it will try and map it's movements to movements on the 360 remote and you will have yourself a PowerGlove.

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#38 mirlegend
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hopefully its true and makes it out before halo 3 (motion controlled banshee would own). i dont see how microsoft is making a mistake with this like some of you are suggesting. no game will ever require the use of a motion control (potentially cutting off 10 million customers is a big no-no for any company). if it is added it will simply be an option you can turn on like in motorstorm.
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[QUOTE="downPlayDemon"]Well tell M$ not to bother, according to system wars most lemmings think it is a gimmickZhengi
But.. but... teh GIMMICK! :cry: Watch those same MS fanboys turn around and tout motion control once it hits the 360. That'll be fun to watch.

i'm a gamer with a 360.  i think the stuff you do on the wii is a gimmick with the 360 degree motion. i want a full 520 or 720 degree motion if 360 comes out with a 520+ motion controller it would be hot.

 also, your missing their strategy.. does game specially made for the wii because of the pad will come out for wii and 360. when you have 2 consoles and one has better graphics with same controller which console will your purchase it for?

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#40 mrpurplepie12
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lol, surprise, surprise, so much of 'gimmick' lemmings. Bill Gates is an idiot aswell, its already out mate.

Its called the Wii. Never catch on anyway for 360 3rd party devs.

Plus, Wiis too big. 

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If that came out then it would be in there next console. They can't just release a motion sensing controler and demand every consumer buy it and ever developer develope for it. Welll.... they might try. But if it was stuff like more Guitar Hero type games with a controller designed for the game packaged with the game then I would be all for it. Also I wouldn't want more consoles being turned into just pickup and play stuff like the Wii is, I mean the Wii is a nice change in pace but I wouldn't want all my games to be like that. Plus Jack Thompson would have a field day saying its training people, and in a way he would a be a little closer to the truth than usual since I bet they would Rockstar would allow you to bludgen people to death using the motion sensing.
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Sony copies again! OH wait it´s MS now... I think it´s a good idea and they should copy it, I´m all for taking other peoples good ideas and trying to make them better, lemmings will be pissed though cause ms is copying.
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Hmm, I guess Microsoft feals left out and wants to join the motion sensing bandwagon.
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[QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="Firelore29"]That's not the point.  The point is that it may be great for a few games but it's not going to be something that developers will produce a number of games for.  You mentioned Guitar Hero, yes it's wonderful, but there are only 2 games that use the guitar and they are both Guitar Hero games. Firelore29

So now you know what games will and won't support it? That must be a pretty sweet job at Mircosoft you have.

It's called past experience.  Why don't you list one add on remote that was added to a console that took off to the point that other 3rd party publishers/developers made games for it..  There will be some people who buy this accessory sure, but no where near all 10 million 360 owners will.  In turn 3rd party developers won't spend time developing games for it.

Otherwise it will try and map it's movements to movements on the 360 remote and you will have yourself a PowerGlove.

Again the dualshock. It became the de facto standard controller for the PS1 (or the PS brand for that matter). Plus with the sidewinder and xbox controllers MS has shown they know how to build a gamepad.

Again, you know absolutely nothing about what MS is planning to do with this controller. For all we know MS has a full line of sports games, party games, FPS's and 3rd party support for the controller that could be better than the Wiimote. We're not talking about a 3rd party controller like the Powerglove (that had zero game support), we're talking about a 1st party controller from a company that owns some very good developers and has some very deep pockets to pay 3rd party developers to use a new controller. The point is, no one here has any idea what MS has planned.

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#45 JiveT
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It wouldn't be hard to improve on the Wiimote so if Microsoft comes out with a superior version and gets FPS makers + sports makers to support it then it might be a worthy purchase. It would just offer a different experience.

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#46 skixwolf
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ugh for the love of god, plz MS, PLZ! Don't make a motion sensor controller... hardly anyone knows how to develop for them!
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Sony copies again! OH wait it´s MS now... I think it´s a good idea and they should copy it, I´m all for taking other peoples good ideas and trying to make them better, lemmings will be pissed though cause ms is copying.Eddie-Vedder
They won't, because it's MS.  Only Sony copies, never MS.   ;)
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[QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="Firelore29"][QUOTE="pundog"] You may have heard of this little controller called the dualshock...Firelore29

BIG difference.  Unless they are going to make the motion sensing like the PS3's sixaxis I can't see how they can convert their controller into a Wiimote.

Also they added in dual shock really soon after the PS1 was released and it doesn't actually effect the control of the game.  That doesn't even compare to this.

How do you know they'll make it like the sixaxis? For all we know they're doing something like the Wiimote or something we've never seen before. Thats my point, people are condemning a product to failure when they have absolutely zero information on it. They don't have to convert the standard 360 pad into anything, they could just release a standalone motion-sensing controller. If people will pay extra for a guitar hero controller that only works with one game then they'll pay for a new, motion sensing controller too (assuming the support is there).

That's not the point.  The point is that it may be great for a few games but it's not going to be something that developers will produce a number of games for.  You mentioned Guitar Hero, yes it's wonderful, but there are only 2 games that use the guitar and they are both Guitar Hero games. 

if people will pay for it, why wouldn't they develop for it?

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#49 Cyberfairy
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if this is true then the complaints about Sony copying the wii-mote will end, hopefully....
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#50 Plug_One
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[QUOTE="Firelore29"][QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="Firelore29"][QUOTE="pundog"] You may have heard of this little controller called the dualshock...TheDarkDisciple

BIG difference. Unless they are going to make the motion sensing like the PS3's sixaxis I can't see how they can convert their controller into a Wiimote.

Also they added in dual shock really soon after the PS1 was released and it doesn't actually effect the control of the game. That doesn't even compare to this.

How do you know they'll make it like the sixaxis? For all we know they're doing something like the Wiimote or something we've never seen before. Thats my point, people are condemning a product to failure when they have absolutely zero information on it. They don't have to convert the standard 360 pad into anything, they could just release a standalone motion-sensing controller. If people will pay extra for a guitar hero controller that only works with one game then they'll pay for a new, motion sensing controller too (assuming the support is there).

That's not the point. The point is that it may be great for a few games but it's not going to be something that developers will produce a number of games for. You mentioned Guitar Hero, yes it's wonderful, but there are only 2 games that use the guitar and they are both Guitar Hero games.

if people will pay for it, why wouldn't they develop for it?

Powerglove?

A non-standard motion controller simply doesn't work. Period.Â