Microsoft is now a greedy, evil company?

When did that happen?

Since XBL fees !

Because they don't have the RAM.

microsoft has always been sort of evil company they tried buying the internet at one point back in the day and tried pulling a xbl fee with pc gamers and games for windows live, pc gamers just aren't that stupid to pay for it and it didn't work.

With xbox they realized there are actually people that dumb that will buy and will pay for anything they make and even defend them and their shady business, so that has allowed them to push it this far.

greedy companies that make good products will continue to be greedy.

greedy companies that make sh*tty products have their stock downgraded to junk status. 

:(

M$ has always been an evil company...this gen just makes their evil more transparent.

Charging for an unreliable console, abandoning the core, online fees, yearly rehashes. Sh!T M$ sucks so much.

What company isn't?nightshade869

Sony

M$ has always been an evil company...this gen just makes their evil more transparent.

Charging for an unreliable console, abandoning the core, online fees, yearly rehashes. Sh!T M$ sucks so much.

[QUOTE="nightshade869"]What company isn't?Speedzilla

Sony

greedy companies that make good products will continue to be greedy.

greedy companies that make sh*tty products have their stock downgraded to junk status. 

:(

KarateeeChop

Too bad you're in the minority on that little opinion of yours. 

Greedy nothin', MS has given gamers no reason to spend any money on their next system. Yet.getyeryayasout

because.....they havent shown their next system :|

[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

greedy companies that make good products will continue to be greedy.

greedy companies that make sh*tty products have their stock downgraded to junk status.

:(

NineTailedGoku

Too bad you're in the minority on that little opinion of yours.

Good.

[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

greedy companies that make good products will continue to be greedy.

greedy companies that make sh*tty products have their stock downgraded to junk status. 

:(

NineTailedGoku

Too bad you're in the minority on that little opinion of yours. 

[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

greedy companies that make good products will continue to be greedy.

greedy companies that make sh*tty products have their stock downgraded to junk status. 

:(

StrongDeadlift

Too bad you're in the minority on that little opinion of yours. 

Couldnt care less about Sonys credit rating. They had more than enough money to make PS4 a beast, they're delivering on the exclusives, thats all I care about. Enjoy the multiplats and high credit ratings. 

[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

greedy companies that make good products will continue to be greedy.

greedy companies that make sh*tty products have their stock downgraded to junk status.

:(

platniumgamer

Too bad you're in the minority on that little opinion of yours.

Good.

Awesomesauce

When did that happen?

SonyNintendoFan

I believe the year was 1975 

OOO NOOO a company wants MONEY

M$ has always been an evil company...this gen just makes their evil more transparent.

Charging for an unreliable console, abandoning the core, online fees, yearly rehashes. Sh!T M$ sucks so much.

[QUOTE="nightshade869"]What company isn't?Speedzilla

Sony

Pirates of Silicon Valley.

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"][QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

Too bad you're in the minority on that little opinion of yours. 

NineTailedGoku

Couldnt care less about Sonys credit rating. They had more than enough money to make PS4 a beast, they're delivering on the exclusives, thats all I care about. Enjoy the multiplats and high credit ratings. 

You "not caring" is irrelevant.  You made a factually incorrect statement that it was an "opinion" that Sony has a junk status credit rating (this is factual).  I corrected you.  :)

Your posting of that original statement had less to do with him saying something factually wrong, as it did you seeing something negative about Sony (reguardless if true or not) and you hyperventillating. And like most cows, you knee-drift responded without thinking.  But I forgive you Bob. :)

You can't bring up the word shady without thinking of M$ first. Of course Sony cares about profit like all big companies do, But they also don't f*ck the comsumer over like M$ does for any marginal profit gain. *cough* xbl *cough, And the fact that M$ likes to stiffle competition, and forces developers to adhere to their whacky demands or else, is further alarming. Id say M$ is the worst of the big 3, and is least for the consumer or for competition(out of the big three) The industry would've been far better off without M$, and their blind loyalist drones, What M$ brought to gaming: The charging of basic online play, introducing the cash money grab DLC craze, the milking of Halo,Gears,Forza repeatedly(really the only exclusives they have, which are still lackluster exclusives) So i.e basically the attitude of quality isnt important and exclusives don't matter. And the fact M$ brought with it or either turned people into some of the most idiotic and blind fanboys ever, which have ruined the fun aspect of gaming with their fanaticism and negativity. M$ brought more bad then good. They(M$) truly are a shady company of corporate d-bags whom are way out of touch with reality, whom delusional fanboys seem to gravitate towards epicgameplayer

What company isn't?nightshade869

I don't really care if MS is greedy or made a pact with the devil. I want Combat Flight Simulator 4.

You can't bring up the word shady without thinking of M$ first. Of course Sony cares about profit like all big companies do, But they also don't f*ck the comsumer overlike M$ does for any marginal profit gain. *cough* xbl *cough, And the fact that M$ likes to stiffle competition, and forces developers to adhere to their whacky demands or else, is further alarming. Id say M$ is the worst of the big 3, and is least for the consumer or for competition(out of the big three) The industry would've been far better off without M$, and their blind loyalist drones, What M$ brought to gaming: The charging of basic online play, introducing the cash money grab DLC craze, the milking of Halo,Gears,Forza repeatedly(really the only exclusives they have, which are still lackluster exclusives) So i.e basically the attitude of quality isnt important and exclusives don't matter. And the fact M$ brought with it or either turned people into some of the most idiotic and blind fanboys ever, which have ruined the fun aspect of gaming with their fanaticism and negativity. M$ brought more bad then good. They(M$) truly are a shady company of corporate d-bags whom are way out of touch with reality, whom delusional fanboys seem to gravitate towards epicgameplayer

Oh how soon we forget. Kids need to learn some history before posting. DRE lawsuit ring a bell? Root kits might have something to say.

Sony is FFAAAARRRRRRR from being what you seem to think.

Stupid thread.

Apparently, when a business wants to make money, instead of giving everyone what they want for free, they are an evil corporation.Zeviander

GDDR5 happened.

[QUOTE="Zeviander"]Apparently, when a business wants to make money, instead of giving everyone what they want for free, they are an evil corporation.epicgameplayer

All companies are shady,done horrible things or rip off their consumers. MS ripped off people with that expensive Wifi adaptar of theirs like a couple of years ago.Sony almost lost their consumer base like two years because of how they handled PSN.And remember the rootkit thing.

[QUOTE="epicgameplayer"]You can't bring up the word shady without thinking of M$ first. Of course Sony cares about profit like all big companies do, But they also don't f*ck the comsumer overlike M$ does for any marginal profit gain. *cough* xbl *cough, And the fact that M$ likes to stiffle competition, and forces developers to adhere to their whacky demands or else, is further alarming. Id say M$ is the worst of the big 3, and is least for the consumer or for competition(out of the big three) The industry would've been far better off without M$, and their blind loyalist drones, What M$ brought to gaming: The charging of basic online play, introducing the cash money grab DLC craze, the milking of Halo,Gears,Forza repeatedly(really the only exclusives they have, which are still lackluster exclusives) So i.e basically the attitude of quality isnt important and exclusives don't matter. And the fact M$ brought with it or either turned people into some of the most idiotic and blind fanboys ever, which have ruined the fun aspect of gaming with their fanaticism and negativity. M$ brought more bad then good. They(M$) truly are a shady company of corporate d-bags whom are way out of touch with reality, whom delusional fanboys seem to gravitate towards kingtito

Oh how soon we forget. Kids need to learn some history before posting. DRE lawsuit ring a bell? Root kits might have something to say.

Sony is FFAAAARRRRRRR from being what you seem to think.

[QUOTE="kingtito"]

[QUOTE="epicgameplayer"]You can't bring up the word shady without thinking of M$ first. Of course Sony cares about profit like all big companies do, But they also don't f*ck the comsumer overlike M$ does for any marginal profit gain. *cough* xbl *cough, And the fact that M$ likes to stiffle competition, and forces developers to adhere to their whacky demands or else, is further alarming. Id say M$ is the worst of the big 3, and is least for the consumer or for competition(out of the big three) The industry would've been far better off without M$, and their blind loyalist drones, What M$ brought to gaming: The charging of basic online play, introducing the cash money grab DLC craze, the milking of Halo,Gears,Forza repeatedly(really the only exclusives they have, which are still lackluster exclusives) So i.e basically the attitude of quality isnt important and exclusives don't matter. And the fact M$ brought with it or either turned people into some of the most idiotic and blind fanboys ever, which have ruined the fun aspect of gaming with their fanaticism and negativity. M$ brought more bad then good. They(M$) truly are a shady company of corporate d-bags whom are way out of touch with reality, whom delusional fanboys seem to gravitate towards epicgameplayer

Oh how soon we forget. Kids need to learn some history before posting. DRE lawsuit ring a bell? Root kits might have something to say.

Sony is FFAAAARRRRRRR from being what you seem to think.

Look at this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_rootkit

You can't bring up the word shady without thinking of M$ first. Of course Sony cares about profit like all big companies do, But they also don't f*ck the comsumer overlike M$ does for any marginal profit gain. *cough* xbl *cough, And the fact that M$ likes to stiffle competition, and forces developers to adhere to their whacky demands or else, is further alarming. Id say M$ is the worst of the big 3, and is least for the consumer or for competition(out of the big three) The industry would've been far better off without M$, and their blind loyalist drones, What M$ brought to gaming: The charging of basic online play, introducing the cash money grab DLC craze, the milking of Halo,Gears,Forza repeatedly(really the only exclusives they have, which are still lackluster exclusives) So i.e basically the attitude of quality isnt important and exclusives don't matter. And the fact M$ brought with it or either turned people into some of the most idiotic and blind fanboys ever, which have ruined the fun aspect of gaming with their fanaticism and negativity. M$ brought more bad then good. They(M$) truly are a shady company of corporate d-bags whom are way out of touch with reality, whom delusional fanboys seem to gravitate towards epicgameplayer

Oh how soon we forget. Kids need to learn some history before posting. DRE lawsuit ring a bell? Root kits might have something to say.

Sony is FFAAAARRRRRRR from being what you seem to think.

[QUOTE="epicgameplayer"][QUOTE="kingtito"]

Oh how soon we forget. Kids need to learn some history before posting. DRE lawsuit ring a bell? Root kits might have something to say.

 

Sony is FFAAAARRRRRRR from being what you seem to think.

super600

Look at this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_rootkit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft

http://news.cnet.com/2100-1001-238758.html

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="epicgameplayer"] Does "Microsoft in violation of usa anti trust laws ring a bell to you ;) Yeah, you need to go learn your history. You are an xbot in complete denial! Selectively remembering only what you want to remember. Pathetic! Hey and remember when Sony started charging for basic online play too.....oh wait, that's Microsoft! Also notice how Sony is trying to shove motion control gimicks down every one's throats.....oh wait thats what Microsoft is doing with the kinect! And rememeber how Sony has been releasing the same old 3 boring franchises again and agan, year in and year out....oh wait, yet again, thats Microsoft! And thats what Microsoft is doing with Gears/Halo/Forza! You dont need to be that pathetic xbot whos defending their own corporate rape at the hands of Microsoft I swear, xbox fans have stockholm syndromeKrelian-co

Look at this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_rootkit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft

http://news.cnet.com/2100-1001-238758.html

I already know about those.

From what i have seen, Microsoft is the number one enemy of hard core gamers right now, and is so for these reasons of many: The very tiny amount of exclusives they do have (Gears, Halo, Forza) are shoved down consumers throats on a yearly basis every other Christmass! Those games are already lackluster as it is too. We dont want more of them! Enough is enough! You will see that burnt out is already occuring! Then there is the way Microsoft is trying to shove kincet down every ones throat as legitamate! Also, how Microsoft charges 60$ a year for basic online play, and how they hide free services behind the 60$ a year paywall of xbox live! Just thinking about how much of a total scam xbox live is, is enough to get your blood boiling! You are forced by M$ to pay an additional 60$ a year fee just in order to keep playing the basic online part of the game you already paid 60$ for. I mean, when you pay 60$ for a PS3 game, you get the whole game (single player and multi player) But when you buy the 360 version for full price, you still remain locked out of the online competent until you adhere to xbox live 60$ a year fees Xbox live is extortion! M$ unlocks you out of half the game you already paid full price for until you adhere to Microsoft's xbox live extortion fees. Also, the apps which are free to use every where else are hidden behind the xbox live pay wall too! That's just as bad! It really is sickening what M$ has done with xbox live: The costly fees on top of fees, which add up, just in order to use services which are free every where else etc No smart or rational person should be ok with xbox live, The M$ sheep need to stop defending this practice or else M$ will continue to get away with this coporate murder of consumer's rights But thankfully more and more people are waking up to Microsoft's b.s! Then there is the fact that by all accounts, the 720 is going to be a casual kinect box lol! Microsoft will fail miserably trying to chase the Wii's pot of gold! The xbox as a brand has no originality and started off as a poor immitation of the playstation brand. So hopefully Sony kills Microsoft off once and for all next gen. Its the PS4 all the way for me and many others (The PS3 has also been one of the greatest pure gaming consoles of this gen, if not is the best console of all time)epicgameplayer

XBL fees destroy consumer rights? The only way they can destroy your consumer rights is if they forced all xbox 360 owners to pay for xbl live and if they didn't they would go to jail.

When did that happen?

SonyNintendoFan

Since DOS?

[QUOTE="epicgameplayer"]From what i have seen, Microsoft is the number one enemy of hard core gamers right now, and is so for these reasons of many: The very tiny amount of exclusives they do have (Gears, Halo, Forza) are shoved down consumers throats on a yearly basis every other Christmass! Those games are already lackluster as it is too. We dont want more of them! Enough is enough! You will see that burnt out is already occuring! Then there is the way Microsoft is trying to shove kincet down every ones throat as legitamate! Also, how Microsoft charges 60$ a year for basic online play, and how they hide free services behind the 60$ a year paywall of xbox live! Just thinking about how much of a total scam xbox live is, is enough to get your blood boiling! You are forced by M$ to pay an additional 60$ a year fee just in order to keep playing the basic online part of the game you already paid 60$ for. I mean, when you pay 60$ for a PS3 game, you get the whole game (single player and multi player) But when you buy the 360 version for full price, you still remain locked out of the online competent until you adhere to xbox live 60$ a year fees Xbox live is extortion! M$ unlocks you out of half the game you already paid full price for until you adhere to Microsoft's xbox live extortion fees. Also, the apps which are free to use every where else are hidden behind the xbox live pay wall too! That's just as bad! It really is sickening what M$ has done with xbox live: The costly fees on top of fees, which add up, just in order to use services which are free every where else etc No smart or rational person should be ok with xbox live, The M$ sheep need to stop defending this practice or else M$ will continue to get away with this coporate murder of consumer's rights But thankfully more and more people are waking up to Microsoft's b.s! Then there is the fact that by all accounts, the 720 is going to be a casual kinect box lol! Microsoft will fail miserably trying to chase the Wii's pot of gold! The xbox as a brand has no originality and started off as a poor immitation of the playstation brand. So hopefully Sony kills Microsoft off once and for all next gen. Its the PS4 all the way for me and many others (The PS3 has also been one of the greatest pure gaming consoles of this gen, if not is the best console of all time)super600

XBL fees destroy consumer rights? The only way they can destroy your consumer rights is if they forced all xbox 360 owners to pay for xbl live and if they didn't they would go to jail.

xbl doesn't destroy consumers right lol, it just takes advantage of dumb people who don't know better. But taking advantage of dumb people is in no way against the law.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="epicgameplayer"]From what i have seen, Microsoft is the number one enemy of hard core gamers right now, and is so for these reasons of many: The very tiny amount of exclusives they do have (Gears, Halo, Forza) are shoved down consumers throats on a yearly basis every other Christmass! Those games are already lackluster as it is too. We dont want more of them! Enough is enough! You will see that burnt out is already occuring! Then there is the way Microsoft is trying to shove kincet down every ones throat as legitamate! Also, how Microsoft charges 60$ a year for basic online play, and how they hide free services behind the 60$ a year paywall of xbox live! Just thinking about how much of a total scam xbox live is, is enough to get your blood boiling! You are forced by M$ to pay an additional 60$ a year fee just in order to keep playing the basic online part of the game you already paid 60$ for. I mean, when you pay 60$ for a PS3 game, you get the whole game (single player and multi player) But when you buy the 360 version for full price, you still remain locked out of the online competent until you adhere to xbox live 60$ a year fees Xbox live is extortion! M$ unlocks you out of half the game you already paid full price for until you adhere to Microsoft's xbox live extortion fees. Also, the apps which are free to use every where else are hidden behind the xbox live pay wall too! That's just as bad! It really is sickening what M$ has done with xbox live: The costly fees on top of fees, which add up, just in order to use services which are free every where else etc No smart or rational person should be ok with xbox live, The M$ sheep need to stop defending this practice or else M$ will continue to get away with this coporate murder of consumer's rights But thankfully more and more people are waking up to Microsoft's b.s! Then there is the fact that by all accounts, the 720 is going to be a casual kinect box lol! Microsoft will fail miserably trying to chase the Wii's pot of gold! The xbox as a brand has no originality and started off as a poor immitation of the playstation brand. So hopefully Sony kills Microsoft off once and for all next gen. Its the PS4 all the way for me and many others (The PS3 has also been one of the greatest pure gaming consoles of this gen, if not is the best console of all time)Krelian-co

XBL fees destroy consumer rights? The only way they can destroy your consumer rights is if they forced all xbox 360 owners to pay for xbl live and if they didn't they would go to jail.

xbl doesn't destroy consumers right lol, it just takes advantage of dumb people who don't know better. But taking advantage of dumb people is in no way against the law.

My example was an ovexaggeration in response to that part of that user's post.